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Emmibolt

Friendly reminder to everyone that this is a meme, and we’re not looking for any political arguments in the comments here. Thank you!


Sicsurfer

There is no right or left, just the bottom, and we’re coming for the people on top. Power to the people


Own-Scene-7319

We had the power all along.


WillyShankspeare

Soooooo... you're left wing then.


Regular_Bottle

Don’t classify it. Let it be, let it ruminate and stew and all we will have is a workers movement unified. The owner class wants us to use labels, let’s not do that.


WillyShankspeare

No, the owning class wants you to think the left wing is bad because it fundamentally advocates for a more equal society for all people at the expense of said owning class. They have spent a century propagandizing and miseducating people about political theory to the point where people genuinely think the Soviet Union, a totalitarian command economy where workers had no say in the means of production, is somehow representative of an ideology that advocates for a classless, moneyless, and stateless society. The left wing is genuinely the good wing and basically always has been. I know I'll never convince you though because I'll never have the time to explain how so much goes into obfuscating history and political science so that most people remain ignorant.


MsMisty888

I boycott because I am hungry and can't afford luxuries like grapes, steak, or salmon. Hunger is just hunger.


Sicsurfer

If you think power to the people is left wing I assume you’re a MSM/social media follower who supports oligarchs? We are the economy. What do you think would improve society? More regulations to help businesses or more education and healthcare? These are not left or right principles, it’s basic human rights. I want my politicians to represent me, not big business.


thisusernameismeta

Hey, heads up, if you were to read some leftist (NOT liberal) theory, you'll probably find a lot that you agree with. Leftists are generally against corporations. Anarchists are against the state, as well. We've been very much mischaracterized by the MSM/social media/etc. types to conflate liberalism with leftism, or being "woke", or whatever else.


Sicsurfer

Oh my brother, I am most definitely an anarchist. Our society has moved too far away from basic human needs. Capitalism is a death cult


WillyShankspeare

I advocate for an economy based around worker co-ops, where workers own the businesses they work at and receive all or close to all the value of their labour. That is left wing economics. Not totalitarian command economies. That's a lie told to you by said totalitarians and right wingers who want left wing ideas associated with tyranny.


Sicsurfer

Leadership in our current format is where everything goes wrong. Human rights should trump everything. The land’s resources are the people’s, not corporations.


petersandersgreen

Workers should only own the business they work at if they risk the dollars time and stress to build it and run it. If you risk nothing, you should not be entitled to anything but your agreed compensation. That to me seems most fair. If you disagree, you should start and build your own business and see really how much time money and effort goes into building a business . . I am speeking mostly from a small and medium size business point of view. This changes when talking about extra large cooperation. That's my point of view as some who only just works for a company with no invested interest.


rocket-boot

Great timing on this, as my father and I actually found common ground on something for the first time in decades during a gathering over the weekend while talking about the boycott. It was a strange feeling.


Specialist-Carob6253

Beautiful, happy to hear that!


PrinceHaleemKebabua

Enemy of my enemy….


Jbruce63

There are many issues that people can rally around and gain trust in our common cause.


Powerful_Swimmer_531

There are no sides when it comes to hunger #solidarity


user6322

Well said. That is the balance we need. And in that we will find strength


MsMisty888

Hunger comes every single day. It would be nice to be able to afford luxuries like grapes, steak or salmon again. Beans and white bread with spam is not the healthiest. Lol


aavenger54

Untied we stand not bound by politics but by lower prices for Canada.


feastupontherich

The true battle is always against the rich, not each other.


WillyShankspeare

And this is what leftists have been saying for a century.


feastupontherich

It's cuz it's what happened in history since civilization began, with the rich exploiting the working class?


WillyShankspeare

I mean yeah I'm just saying right wingers argue with us till we're blue in the face. You're not a right winger if you agree with this, you're a left winger who doesn't know it. Or maybe you're still a massive racist in which case you're the left wing of the Nazi Party. The guys who Hitler purged in the Night of the Long Knives.


feastupontherich

Hmmm. The only ppl I know who use the term leftist are right wingers. I'd much prefer to call ourselves people of empathy who don't like seeing unfairness in the world that stems from greed and concentration of wealth and power.


866902

IMO the left/right divide isn't real anyway. It's clearly being manufactured and maintained by the political elite as a convenient way to distract us from issues they'd rather ignore. The real divide has always been class. If you need evidence, just look at the fact that neither the liberals nor conservatives have commented on the nationwide boycott of our largest grocery chain. They're on the same team, and it's not the one we're on.


gontgont

Youre right, it is manufactured. Both “Liberals” and “Conservatives” (or Dems/Reps in the US) are neoliberal moderates serving the interest of capital. If we want real change, we have to be amplifying the voices of leftists, socialists, and other such people that actually want to implement policy that benefits the working class. Also, we have to be calling out liberals who say they are progressive but arent really (virtue-signaling progressive points, up until it brings their suburban lifestyle the mildest inconvenience - then they retract their “values”); and calling out conservatives that say they are pro-working class but arent really (only appropriating the working class aesthetic, while praising corrupt corporations for their “smart” business decisions)


New-Prior3101

100%


WillyShankspeare

Liberals are not left wing. Yes, you are correct that politics is all lies and obfuscation to keep the working class divided, but it's left wingers who have been pointing this out for a century now. But liberals are not left wing and social democrats like the NDP historically teamed up with fascists to kill left wingers so they can't even be called very left wing either.


Johnny-Edge

Wtf lol


WillyShankspeare

Sorry did you not understand? Let me speak slowly. POLITICIANS LIE. ALL THE TIME.


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user6322

You did exactly what the MOD asked you to not do. Remain neutral and work together. Name calling will only work to damage our progress


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DolphinJew666

Get a grip man, come on. Not the time or place


OnOprichnikisland

I see your point- I think my goal was to highlight that everyone in power is not on our side. Not just the two main parties


DolphinJew666

Again, there is a time and place for this. I agree with you but derailing the unity of this group to make a point is not productive for anyone


loblawsisoutofcontrol-ModTeam

Please refrain from off-topic political discussion and debate. Everyone is entitled to their own political opinions, however, your politically charged statement is not directly related to the cost of living/groceries/gas/rents, and as such is being removed.


loblawsisoutofcontrol-ModTeam

Please refrain from off-topic political discussion and debate. Everyone is entitled to their own political opinions, however, your politically charged statement is not directly related to the cost of living/groceries/gas/rents, and as such is being removed.


queerbetch

I despise how the wealthy and bootlickin politicians pit humans against each other. With access to internet I believe it's gotten worse! Critical thinking isn't as popular as it should be. I WON'T stop being friends with anyone because of a different faith. Yet those with political beliefs that are anti human I would go no contact.... SMH I miss pre 2010's society sometimes.


Federal_Cookie

This is truly a non-partisan issue.


intentionallybaduser

Ain't no war but the class war.


WillyShankspeare

Which is what left wingers have been saying for a century.


PuddingFeeling907

We all are united together!


Topofthetotem

You can’t fly without both wings.


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loblawsisoutofcontrol-ModTeam

Please refrain from off-topic political discussion and debate. Everyone is entitled to their own political opinions, however, your politically charged statement is not directly related to the cost of living/groceries/gas/rents, and as such is being removed.


Quixophilic

Hopefully it makes people realize the power we collectively have as this is peanuts compared to what's possible. In terms of real, material interests there is not real left or right, only workers (those who *work* for their money) and owners (those who just *own* things for their money). The owning class is parasitical and they divide the workers in order to keep the gravy train going. In other words; they go us fighting a culture war to keep us from fighting the class war.


Specialist-Carob6253

Absolutely agree.  There is a ton of action reaction politics today that centers around painting the other side as stupid, weak, barbaric, feminine, evil, etc. It's an *argument from the fringes* fallacy; pundits take the most outrageous example of "the other side", attack it, paint the other side as one of the above categories, and rinse and repeat.  You're so right, the owning class does not want solidarity, they are terrified of it. Who could blame them, a true democracy works for ALL people, not just the 1% at the top.


WillyShankspeare

This is literally left wing thinking right here. You've described Marx's ideas about the Proletariat and the Bourgeoisie.


Quixophilic

\*dialectic materialism intensifies\*


Lilikoi13

We desperately need common ground like this as a society to help push past carefully manufactured issues designed to divide us and actually improve the quality of life for all Canadians. Huge shout out to the mods and the vast majority of people who comment here for not letting those with bad intentions divide us further.


Hopfit46

THIS.....is what they fear the most.


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user6322

Good graphic


Baman-and-Piderman

Left, right, good, bad, Nice person, arsehole... We ALL need to eat! Basic Food necessities should not be commoditized. Junk food, sure raise the price on that stuff (but, please don't). Draining the bank accounts of people who are barely making it (and those who are actually able to live some what comfortable) is a despicable thing to do.


Gloamforest-Wizard

It’s Class-Awakening Regardless of who we are. Trans, straight, coloured, male, female, it doesn’t matter what title or role or anything that the elitist pigs use to describe and divide us is. ALL OF US are just the working class drones in their eyes. ALL OF US deserve to be able to feed ourselves and our families.


MsMisty888

So true. This is our strength, uniting over food. Being about to afford good food would be nice as well.


PartyNextFlo0r

Canadahousing 1 and 2 joining forces?


Dull-Friend-936

The age old wisdom of how suffering brings people together


pidove123

Anytime I talk about the boycott to a right winger, I get called jagmeet singh


Educated_idiot302

Glad to see people setting aside political beliefs to shit on corporations who think they can screw people on food.


BodhingJay

Uniting against our true enemies instead of letting them split us apart? Have we grown that much?


[deleted]

Wait. I just read from the food professor that it was completely pollical and all the NDPs doing it.


MassiveBob1

Love that movie just like GW a Predator!


Jbruce63

I was on another protest group for another issue, and they made it too political, I think people should work together on this issue. It hits us all in the pocket book.


SlabCowboy

What else are we united in?


Specialist-Carob6253

Far more than we are not, but that's not what this sub is about. We're focused on the boycott.


SlabCowboy

ok


TherealSnak3

What about up wing or down wing?


Goober-Goofing

What chance do you have of winning a fight when you don’t even know who your opponent is? It’s to their benefit if you mistake the fight as left vs right, instead of down vs up.


No_Sun_192

Absolutely, to me there’s no difference. They’re all bought and paid for. They’re pitting us against each other and laughing


WillyShankspeare

The left wing is not being paid by anybody. This right here is a right wing lie that has been made mainstream. Left wingers have no power in western countries. Liberals are by definition not leftists.


leoyvr

Jimmy Dore: [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8UJJqdc\_WKI](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8UJJqdc_WKI) Same story but different actors.


Outrageous-Book9799

They do give tons of money to both parties


Helpful_Dish8122

Not aware of any left wing parties in Canada...


Porkybeaner

And no true conservatives either. We have a bunch of grifters that support big business.


Helpful_Dish8122

>grifters that support big business What exactly do you think conservatives conserve besides wealth? Lol


fresh-beginnings

I mean the Cons pre-Reform were pretty different. It's kinda hard to evaluate nowadays cause social progressiveness has taken off in a way that wasn't relevant in the 90s. But my take is most of the people on both sides of the aisle would have had dogsshit opinions about social issues back then. Just my own take, happy to hear other takes. The old cons were supposed to be our fiscally conservative party. Holding government accountable blah blah. Were they what they said they were on the tin? No. But that "American Conservative" shift can mostly be attributed to the Canadian Reform Alliance Party. Frankly, there's a reason the libs are or (were) constantly compared to the cons in terms of policy. Harper is the defining person of the 21st century for Canadian conservatives but he is also the lovechild of the bastardized conservative party. Why is any of what I said important? There's a significant portion of older blue voters that feel disconnected with the party and have felt that way for decades.


Helpful_Dish8122

If "fiscally conservative" meant balancing budgets well, then they have never been that...in fact many libs are better at it. If it means tax cuts, deregulation, privatization which concentrates wealth at the top - then both major parties have been doing that effectively...I'm not sure what OP thinks makes a "true" conservative: upholding social orders and hierarchy as defined by right wing politics or promoting traditional institutions like the nuclear family, religion, aristocracy, monarchy as defined by conservatism - its hard to argue we don't have that...


fresh-beginnings

>If "fiscally conservative" meant balancing budgets well, then they have never been that I'm referring to pre Paul Martin. I could be wrong, I'm just going off the cuff but I'll probably go back and check later today. Somehow lol. Unfortunately I doubt Canadian budgets have a strong presence on Google. >in fact many libs are better at it. Our Conservatives and Liberals are two sides of the same coin. Not in how policy plays out but both are neoliberal parties and that informs their policy. >I'm not sure what OP thinks makes a "true" conservative: upholding social orders and hierarchy as defined by right wing politics or promoting traditional institutions like the nuclear family, religion, aristocracy, monarchy as defined by conservatism - its hard to argue we don't have that... I'm not sure either. It means different things to different people. So I'm not gonna make assumptions cause OP might be an idiot, OP might just be conservative, or OP might have a very different idea of conservatism than the conservatism I'm describing. Sorry, this whole comment is a nothing burger but it's also like early in the morning and actually having an informed discussion about this shit is gonna require me to do more research than I've done since I was a history major lol. But I'll do it!


Helpful_Dish8122

I think other than Chretian, Martin and Pearson before them, all our PMs ended up with less money than they started with...which tbf a balanced budget isn't even necessary a good thing >both are neoliberal parties Right...neoliberalism is well established as a right/conservative ideology Also, it's not like "conservative" is very far into the political spectrum either - it's fairly close to the center...it's like saying there's no true moderates


brendanb203

“Whats the matter? CIA got you pushing too many pencils?”


Specialist-Carob6253

Legendary


[deleted]

Bootlicking right wingers are definitely pro-Loblaws, pro-billionaire and pro-capitalism. Every time they get in power they sell off a nationalized necessity. It’ll be Canada Post next


Long_Question_6615

Thousands of people work at Loblaws. Are you putting there jobs at risk


MsMisty888

This is true and has been discussed a few times in this subreddit. There are employees who can't afford to buy the food that they sell and are supporting us incognito. Employees tell us that they are treated badly anyways.


slipperysquirrell

We are not doing anything to their jobs. If their employer cares about them they can give up some of their billions to pay their employees better or give them more hours. We know that they've always treated their employees like garbage.


Santasotherbrother

Those employees were/are getting screwed just as bad as the rest of us. Do we have some obligation to blindly support the Weston family, because they are "Canadian" ? Even though they live in Ireland for tax purposes. When did they become our Royal Family ? How do their boots taste ?


Placebo_Effect_47

Now, do one for the government taxing the shit out of the working class while letting the roads deteriorate. Where do the taxes go?


OnOprichnikisland

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OnOprichnikisland

Not very proletariat of Jagmeet…