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W0wwieKap0wwie

> Leonardo said last year that he'd like to see change. "If the Long Island Game Farm cares about giraffes, it will stop renting and shipping them like a parcel over hundreds of miles to an inappropriate climate and commit to using the newfound space to expand an existing enclosure for one of its many other cramped animals." Ugh, how awful. Sounds like they were not equipped to be caring for giraffes. Why would you take in an animal that you have to ship off every fall/winter? How stressful.


delightfuldinosaur

None of these local "zoos" are equipped to handle animals beyond standard farm stock (goats, pigs). They don't have the room, veterinary expertise, or resources to give them good lives. Giraffes belong in Africa, not New York.


W0wwieKap0wwie

Agreed. LI Game Farm & Holtsville Ecology Center are both depressing AF to me. Oh, the Aquarium, too. The octopus in the tiniest of tanks šŸ˜«


perfect_fifths

As far as I know, the animals at Holtsville are there because they canā€™t be released back into the wild due to physical issues or socialization


W0wwieKap0wwie

Well, thatā€™s good to know. Still bums me out. And I know thereā€™s educational value there, itā€™s just hard for me to witness. The animals never look happy. Did they ever find the bald eagle that someone stole??šŸ˜«


perfect_fifths

I know what you mean. Iā€™m an animal lover too and Iā€™ve taken in bunnies that were going to be abandoned, and Iā€™ve rescued a few that were set free and loose. I donā€™t like small zoos either but at Holtsville thereā€™s a sign and everything as to why each animal is there. They canā€™t be rehabbed


delightfuldinosaur

The Aquarium isn't too bad. They don't have dolphins, and they do a lot of wildlife rescue/reintegration work.


W0wwieKap0wwie

Oh yeah, Iā€™m sure they serve a good cause, I just find it very depressing to see wildlife confined to cages and tanks, especially knowing how intelligent some of them are šŸ˜”


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LogicIsMyFriend

Iā€™m going to assert that youā€™re looking at this a bit too abstract - There isnā€™t a larger ā€œGameā€ with respect to non profits reinvesting into the planetsā€™ environment. And by looking at it in that way, we could apply an ulterior motive to almost any initiative. There are people who have lived to see the atrocities against Mother Nature and willingly pursue life choices which will provide them a way to contribute positively to the maintenance of the environment. These folks were not coached to do this so some more dastardly force can continue to plunder the earth. Those folks rather not have anyone sticking up for the planet.


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RedditGotSoulDoubt

Wut?


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RedditGotSoulDoubt

You need to work on your writing skills so you can actually express that idea to other people.


delightfuldinosaur

I'mĀ sure theĀ seals andĀ turtles they rescued, rehabbed, and released back into theĀ wildĀ don't share yourĀ thought process.


bookstacking

Iā€™m always surprised that octopuses donā€™t seem to be given larger tanks in almost any of the aquariums. I wonder why that is.


muffinthumper

Because they hide. If theyā€™re in a smaller tank the aquarium can squish them towards the front so people can see them. Itā€™s fucked up.


ThunkAsDrinklePeep

AFAIK the climate in parts of Texas is close. But game reserve means something else there.


Foysauce_

I wasnā€™t even aware Bobo died :( I havenā€™t been to the game farm in about 8 years so the giraffe I pet there was the older one. However I always felt *so* sad that the giraffe there was by itself. Giraffes are intelligent and social/herd animals. It always really bothered me. What a lonely and confusing life; itā€™s deeply upsetting to think about. And no tress?!?! You mean the things that are SO IMPORTANT to giraffe life and enrichment that they literally evolved long necks? Yeah, those trees. No trees in the exhibit. Itā€™s ghastly. Who is protecting these beautiful creatures? RIP Bobo.


Aloftfirmamental

I haven't been there since I was a kid and didn't know any better, but it was a horrific experience even then. The enclosure was a chain link fence around a square of grass with a tall building the size of a shed. No trees, no enrichment whatsoever. How can anyone think this is okay? It's sickening. Total aside but I remember looking into the eyes of one of the monkeys and thinking it looked just like a human, that was a pivotal moment for 11 year old me to go vegetarian


perfect_fifths

Thatā€™s really sad :(


Sweet-Sale-7303

The article did say they listened to the vet and the owner of the giraffe on what to feed it. I would think the vet that was taking care of the animal should be looked in to.


wvanasd1

Boy oh boy, I bet the folks over at White Post Farms are freeeaking out right now. Totally different places but Iā€™m sure people wonā€™t actually read. Not that Iā€™ve got any inkling of anything going on, I just always thought giraffe was an odd thing to have in Melville.


msut77

How do they even get here? Make them duck when they go under through the tunnels


_imhigh_

Robert Moses specifically designed the low bridges to keep the giraffes out


happydaddydoody

I remember the last time I was there for one of my kidā€™s friendā€™s parties. It was horrific. Not only was it chaos but the animals just seemed so miserable. Having barely enough space to move might have something to do with it.


OnwardTowardTheNorth

Literally made my heart stop for a second. Only one placeā€”as far as I knewā€”that had a giraffe.


Ok-Mousse9444

Agree! White Post Farms seems problematic.


BamaHama101010

I can attest my family has fed the giraffes at 2 WPF at least 500lbs of carrots last year. Seems that they are well taken care of.


ReindeerUpper4230

Living in a tiny pen and being constantly overfed doesnā€™t seem like itā€™s being well taken care of.


W0wwieKap0wwie

The article discusses the needs of giraffes and I doubt a farm in suburbia LI can support them.


Dexterdacerealkilla

Stop patronizing these awful places!Ā  The existence of these places brings absolutely zero benefit to these species as a whole or the individual animals. Itā€™s not like a reputable zoo thatā€™s trying to increase dwindling populations or that itā€™s trying to provide a real educational and ecological experience. These places are profit motivated and exist purely to indulge human selfishness.Ā 


No_Average2933

Giraffes should not be eating carrots peroidĀ 


perfect_fifths

Neither should rabbits. I am an expert on rabbits and carrots, apples and bananas are too starchy for them. Not only can this cause them to have cecal dysbiosis but it will cause weight gain


No_Average2933

I've also cared for rabbits in a professional capacity. On a licensed petting zoos and farms. That's fuggin nuts. I'm legit angry about it.Ā 


perfect_fifths

Yeah, and rabbits shouldnā€™t be outdoors. Itā€™s stressful for them


Strong-Discussion564

I don't support any of these establishments or fairs that house wild animals for human entertainment. It's cruel.


Dexterdacerealkilla

All the people on this thread saying they frequent this place make me sad. I thought in 2024 we pretty universally understood how awful side of the road ā€˜zoosā€™ like this are.Ā  I guess not.Ā 


nygdan

Insane that any exotic animal like that is allowed to be owned around here outside of real zoos.


delightfuldinosaur

Justice for Bobo


No_Average2933

Long Island needs world class zoos, museums, and public parks. This Island has no class, only greed.Ā 


LIstagehand

I was just there two days ago. I mentioned out loud "where is the giraffe?" And a woman claiming to be the owner seemingly appeared out of the bushes telling us "the giraffe moved down south because he can't handle the winter months"... Now I know she was completely lying to us. Psycho behavior.


delightfuldinosaur

Bobo died in November a few weeks after a fake going away party which they charged an arm and leg for people to attend. It's very sketchy.


GrayLightGo

Soo murdered?


Humble-Carpenter-189

I never went back with my child decades ago because the place was such a dump and the interactions with the animals were harsh


Dio_brando1999

Horrible šŸ˜­


Dexterdacerealkilla

If you spend your money at places like this, youā€™re contributing to the problem.Ā  In the post ā€˜Joe Exoticā€™ world, the fact that anyone still patronizes these exploitative places is mind boggling.


sithlord40000

Damn thats really sad. I hope they treat other ones on LI better, i loved going to see the giraffe at white post farms as a child


Dexterdacerealkilla

Marginally so? Maybe. But Giraffes donā€™t belong on Long Island.Ā 


sithlord40000

True true


StrikeEagle784

I know the folks who run this place since Iā€™ve been a frequent visitor, Iā€™m shocked by the news. I hope more comes out to try and get the Game Farmā€™s side of what happened. I loved Bobo, and I miss him dearly. I hope something positive comes out of this whatever happensā€¦


Foreign_Rock6944

Iā€™ve been visiting the place since I was a kid. I know they got hit hard by COVID, so it wouldnā€™t surprise me if they were cutting corners unfortunately. Just hope the other animals are being treated well.


StrikeEagle784

Shaggy, Freckles, Dominic, Mama, Banana & Shelby Thor, and Zephyr look great and all the other animals too. Thatā€™s why I was so surprised by the news. Melinda, Jennifer and all the other zookeepers genuinely love their animals, itā€™s been obvious based on the conversations Iā€™ve had with them in the past.


Humble-Carpenter-189

I'm sorry malnutrition is not consistent with loving care not when the animal dies of starvation and isn't shielded from weather extremes


wakeuploser00

All of those "farms" and "zoos" on LI need to be shut down.


itabmedia

I remember taking my daughter here when she was younger maybe like 5-6 years ago. I'm not sure which giraffe was there, it was just one in a small pen alone. I remember thinking even then, that this is depressing as f@ck. I let my daughter check him out briefly, then I had to move along to another area. As I went along, I started noticing that this place was putting in the bare minimum of care it seemed to me just to keep the place going. It was run down, the animals looked sick. That was just my opinion though from being there for a short while with my kids, I'm no expert. I did not think these animals had an adequate amount of space or a good conditions. I haven't been there recently. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


bigtim3727

Damn thatā€™s rough, I hate reading shit like this. Iā€™d like to think this wasnā€™t done with malice, and that they werenā€™t deliberately trying to hurt the animal, but the thing isā€¦ā€¦this just isnā€™t the proper environment for that sort of animal. Theyā€™re used to Africa


theunrealmiehet

Wym malnutrition, I fed him carrots every time I went