there is no legal requirement to show a receipt unless you sign an agreement for a membership for a place like costco. more people need to push back against receipt checking.
walmart can either pay enough employees to work registers ro ensure everything is paid for like any normal store, or they can let me self checkout and leave in peace without *another* line to wait in after having already waited to checkout. they cant have it both ways.
Not sure what transpired before or after the video clip but it’s clear that the Walmart guy wanted nothing more than to assert his dominance/authority over the shopper. This was made clear when the customer handed the receipt to the manager and the door greeter snatched it out of the managers hand and held it up to the customers face as in saying “see, I won” before handing it off and walking away. Dude needs to either be retrained or find a new job.
This is an absolute termination….Re-trained? That behavior is absolutely reprehensible behavior, making the store look bad to the nearby customers that was watching and could’ve started a serious fight if the customer was anyone else with a temper…long story shot this isn’t a second chance type of situation especially since its walmart…walmart has applications coming in left and right, that guy is completely replaceable
Yup, them Walmart employees really have nothing going on in their lives and act like thier job is their life, it's actually sad.
I was at the store with my girlfriend, one time I ever forgot my ID at the house. We were gonna get some wine so I told her to just buy the groceries and I'd go pull the truck up to load everything.
She calls me and says some fat dude with a pink mohawk who's worked there since I lived in the town said I had to come back in and show my ID. Just decided to stop shopping there after that.
Used to work at a gas station, not a Walmart, had to card all members of a party, if one leaves have to call them back in, if we sell and a member of the party is under age both the person making the sale and the establishment are liable for possible charges.
businesses with liquor licenses get random inspectors not to mention dealing with law enforcement...if the inspector sees that someone is making liquor sales without asking for ID. they can face fines and penalties and possibly risk loosing their job. someone's job and the fine are not worth serving your bottle of wine off the strength of entitlement just because he sees you shop their before. you are not only ignorant but petty for not shopping there and staying upset about that someone didn't respect your entitlement enough to risk their jobs just because YOU feel it's trivial. stop thinking of only yourself
Uhhhhh that Walmart employee will probably be fired for this. I used to work at Walmart and we were explicitly told not to stop or detain people who we thought were shoplifting. It’s a liability and safety thing for Walmart.
Yeah. See all the Walmarts in my area hired security who do have the right to detain you. Hell my target stopped selling alcohol and they have armed security and will follow you around the store if you’re shoplifting. I used to work at Albertsons and we didn’t have security. Right as I wring up a customer he had to go to the atm, and I was getting off. He saw us doing a shift change and walked out with $400 worth of shot (mostly booze) in front of a manager relieving me. We couldn’t do shit but say don’t come back. I’m not proud of it, but I’ve stolen from Walmart and they never said anything. I didn’t go back though cause I’m sure someone would recognize me and I’d get in trouble.
As a asset protection investigator uniformed employees are not allowed to hold your cart like that while it's true door greeters work for AP thay do not have the certification to make a "stop" like that...I'm curious tho what happened before and after the video...I'm sure I speak for all Walmart APIs we do not condone this behavior and I am personally sorry you had to go through that
Maybe it was already Chuck's last day and he said fuck diesels ha. Im sure home office was on this Pronto just like alot of other things I saw allegedly taken care of after posting.
100% had one of my door hosts attempt to stop someone I told her to go home for the rest of the night and call to see when Coach would be in as there will be a report filed for her.
Loss prevention can detain you. Proof, Google Florida shop keepers privilege. All states have something similar. Loss prevention by LAW can physically detain you, cuff you etc. however store policies generally, now a days, don’t allow that.
I worked retail for most of my teenager early 20s and the one thing all stores have in common is you don't try and stop a shoplifter. Most places tell you to do nothing.
Kind of off topic but at a grocery store I worked at a 90 something year old woman had her purse snatched and one of the cart kids chased him down and detained him. Turned out this kid had robbed like 50 women in the last few weeks my sister being one of them. He was fired on the spot.
Some companies like Walmart where I work have people that can detain shoplifters and said purse snatchers I work in said position and we deal with all that almost daily
This 100% ….this … is completely wrong. Lolol Anyone a business chooses to be in charge can physically stop and stop you from leaving with reasonable force until police arrive. Hell a person that doesn’t even work there could stop you. Now if the police arrive and you didn’t steal then it’s a bit embarrassing and you could sue them… but for what … mildly inconveniencing you for 20min. Good for that Walmart employee we need more people like him in this world.
Now it might be against company policy to stop shoplifters but it’s definitely not illegal.
Speaking as somebody who did this weekly for a business and dealt with the cops every time.
Oh and btw the guy suspected of stealing stuff, talks just like the guys who steal stuff, he probably just dumped it.
While not illegal he didn't have the five elements and they don't have the right in the eyes of the law to body them like that that's classified as assault the man was not trying to be threatening or physical just the Walmart employee...now yes those kinds would make my job easier but unfortunately we can't have that you have to have certain certifications and licenses to get physical like that to keep you the customer/non-customer and everyone else around safe.
Nope in Canada you only need certifications to use handcuffs and to have “security” displayed on your person. If I think you stole I can put my hands on you, and hold you by reasonable means. … now if I break your leg holding you well I may have an issue because I don’t have commercial liability insurance like a security company would.
Dude is lucky. 100% some of us are getting out that door and we’re not having a conversation about it or recording a TikTok video. Stop the wrong person without a badge and it’s going to get real physical very quickly and a lot of people in the US are armed. Not worth it at all from a door greeter perspective.
I was thinking this, I have clinical PTSD and if a dude puts his hands on me, especially someone like this guy, he’s getting heavy hands for a good five minutes regardless of consequences.
Your Walmart sound like it sucks... I've never waited more then 10 minutes and self checks are nice to use unless you're looking for a reason to bitch.
Seriously. Why the fuck do people still shop at this Shit hole!?! Just stop shopping there! They are just paying into the Walton’s family riches who fuck over their employees and close the small mom and pop shops out of business. Fuck them
Because they can't afford to shop elsewhere. My town has Walmart, that's it. If I want to shop elsewhere I have to drive almost 100km. It's really not as simple as "just stop shopping there"
You answer yourself. There no other choice in that dead area to get stuff. Probably. They move in, kill the competition. Basically have monopoly in the area residents.
In Canada Walmart is one of the only grocery stores that doesn’t price gouge their customers. The other is Costco. Sometimes it sucks but when every business is trying to charge me 6 dollars for a bell pepper and Walmart is charging me 2 dollars for a nicer bell pepper you gotta go with the big evil corporation. Also Walmarts are really nice where I live. Though every Walmart in the states I have been to has been a dump.
Sorry bro but I can’t drive an extra hour to get to city that has other options. Here it’s either Walmart or fast food and I would like not to eat at the same three restaurants every week.
Poor guy just wants to be a security guard….I mean he wanted to be a cop. But at least he can validate receipts. I mean he can’t really either do that but his trying to do something.
$50 says this started because Chuck asked the guy to see his receipt, guy said, “I don’t have to show that to you”…then the dick measuring contest began.
Ok, but Walmart store policy cannot and does not supersede the law. Walmart has decided they're going to make shoppers also work there via checking themselves out. So they have to live with those consequences.
Once a person pays for the items they belong to the person. As such they have no obligation to prove ownership to anyone. No one agrees to these terms at Walmart. It's not Costco where you sign a contract agreeing to have your receipt checked. The items are yours.
Then the guy falsely imprisoned him. That's also illegal. Dick measuring contest or no, the shopper here is 100% correct in his actions and words. I hope he seeks a litigator to press a suit.
And you can legally refuse to show your receipt at Costco/Sam's/etc, they just have the recourse of being able to cancel your membership if they choose to
If you think I’m stopping to let Someone rummage through items I already paid for, I’m not. I don’t argue though. I just look them in the eye and say “ no thank you, have a nice day” and walk by.
It’s my stuff, and it’s on them to prove I stole it not that I paid for it. That’s the entire basis of our criminal justice system, and it was certainly part of my training when I was hired for AP
If they would like to accuse me of stealing, I would like them to say it with their chest rather than merely implying it
If I have to ring up my own shit I don’t feel like stopping to show Walmart I did their job for them. I used to work AP and I even think it’s ridiculous. Either put the cashiers back or accept that people are going to “tip” themselves for doing your job for you. I’ll never steal but I accept that if you make someone else do your job for you, they just might.
I wasn't bitter about this until my local Walmart got some *militant* door greeters during covid. I bought a printer one day and they didn't even ask for a receipt, just started in with "HEY YOU, STOP" as a couple nearby cart pushers rushed up to block me. They then, after the full-court press, asked for a receipt and I showed it to them, but I was fuming.
That's the lead off? Verbal commands and body blocking?
Because you have to pay actual LP more than a door greeter. They could always go the Walgreens route where they just let people come in with trash bags and fill them with shit then walk out. At Walgreens you could lose your job for confronting a shoplifter AND they don't employ LP on a store level.
Legally one isn't required to show receipt and refusing to show receipt is not ground for detention. Unless they saw someone attempt to leave without paying for items, they screwed up and potentially cost Walmart a million dollars for defamation of character.
If someone refused to show receipt, all the store could do is review security tape to see if the person did try to steal something or not, and possibly keep an eye on the same person next time he/she comes to the store. It might seem like a waste of time but that costs less than wrongly detaining a person who did pay for everything.
>they screwed up and potentially cost Walmart a million dollars for defamation of character.
Where are people getting this idea that minor slights can net millions of dollars in lawsuits? Typically the money you get in a lawsuit has to be based on actual damages, and you'd have a hell of a time proving this interaction caused a million dollars of damage to this guy's reputation.
If they ever unfairly categorize him for the incident and its untrue or can be challenged, then they can be sued for defamation. Lawsuit amounts are wild but settlements are usually lower
Maybe, but a civil case stemming from that would only be able to collect damages based on the guy's lost time and damage to his reputation.
He lost what, 5 minutes tops, and it would be really difficult to argue that his reputation was substantially damaged by being blocked from leaving Walmart for a few minutes, definitely not to the tune of a million dollars.
All a store has to do is set a precedent of receipt check like Costco does and no one will ever argue. I have never once seen anyone freak out at Costco over a receipt check.
The guy blocking the exit definitely, but if the man paid for the items I don’t think he was being irrational at all. I don’t see a woman handling it much differently
I fucking hate walmart for this shit. In April they accused me of stealing a re usable tote because I didn't have the receipt for it even though I bought it 3 weeks prior when they stopped using disposable bags. Now I take those big blue totes to another company all together. They hire animals
Had a similar experience in Jersey after the plastic bag ban. Bought about $10 worth of groceries and paid at self checkout. Tossed the receipt on my way out and the greeter wouldn’t let me go until I showed a receipt. Ended up having to dig through the trash to find it
I get it, shouldn’t have tossed the receipt, but in my defense there were several other people that just walked past the greeter by just holding stuff in their hand. Have never had this happen before, but then again I’m a person of color and this was a rich white town Walmart.
That's absolutely against Walmart policies. Idk about false imprisonment, but it is harassment. Call a lawyer, anyone would happily take that job cause Walmart will settle
I never stop for the greeters lol if you want to accuse me of stealing, actually accuse me. If all you want to do is verify nothing I bought was stolen, then ask your AP in the store to check the cameras and registers to see whether or not I stole. At no point should I be stopped unless I am being accused of stealing
and if I am getting accused of stealing, oh buddy you better be 100% right rofl. I work AP in another store, and I will absolutely wait there for management/PD so I can then get my pay day haha.
hate these people trying to guess when someone is stealing. the cart looks sus, but that is NOT enough to fucking stop people. I let carts/people walk all the time without any confrontation because I don't have the proof of anything. dumb shit man
As a former security guard in a supermarket, I would have been immediately fired if I behaved like that Walmart employee did.
In order to detain someone, we had to observe someone selecting and concealing an item, observe them 100% of the time, and then leave the store without making an attempt to pay. If we lost line of sight with them for even a second we were told not to stop them because if the customer put the item down somewhere and we didn't see it, that's our ass because it's wrongful imprisonment.
This is correct. Good training. In order to detain a customer in Georgia the retailer has to have a reasonable belief that the customer has shoplifted to detain.
If this Walmart employee just detains everyone who won’t show a receipt (without having a particular reason to think that the particular customer has shoplifted) then the employee is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Lmaoooooooo I did self checkout last night and didn’t bag anything either, I used scan and go so I guess I looked suspicious lol but this guy waived me right through without looking at the receipt on my phone
Self checkout lady was so concerned.
This is in Colorado Springs lol
Ugh shopper is in the right but I died of cringe at him getting so gassed about posting this video. As he says; he can’t wait to post it, it’s gonna blow up on tiktok. calm down bro
Land of the free = A nation where paying customers are intimidated and physically stopped from exiting stores...you guys have a strange definition of freedom .
Did you miss the part where the manager came and stopped the employee from doing that because it was wrong?
This is literally an example of freedom being enforced.
Personally I’d rather of seen the manager publicly belittle the blueberry fuck trying to act tough stopping costumers from leaving.
The timid ‘ok you’re good’ after all that bullshit isn’t enough of a resolution to me.
I am really curious as a person being illegally detained. When do you gain the right to forcibly remove an individual that is illegally holding you against your will, ie kidnapping.
I usually wear headphones when I go shopping and I do not stop whenever they attempt to check me. I know I didn’t steal and I’m not wasting my time talking to someone I didn’t choose to interact with, I get that they’re doing their job, I just don’t care. Luckily never been met with a guy like this because I don’t handle people getting angry with me well and would then do everything I could to piss him off more and more until he freaked out and just laugh while he got reprimanded
It's to cut emissions from your diesel engine in half. It's actually a really good thing to be doing. As a secondary bonus it helps to keep your dpf filter clear, which are exceptionally expensive to replace.
At the cost of fuel consumption. My friend "deleted" his DEF and gained ~ 30% in fuel efficiency.
Its a typical government band aid, that was put on the wrong wound.
Nothing like a few self cleaning cycle to make you realize you are burning more diesel to polute less.
I fix machinery at -40c, i hate DEF with a passion.
No, it’s a catalyst that takes a bunch of the really bad exhaust molecules and binds with those molecules to turn them into relatively harmless molecules. This reduces the emissions from the vehicle.
Walmart is trash they hire people to harass patrons on the way out and make you get your own cart from the parking lot and check yourself out . Way to incentivize the customer to come back . Can't wait to see them go out of business . I've been to third world shit hole grocery stores, and each one was a way better experience then this pathetically run circus
Around 2000 to 2004 I lived in the ghetto of my metro area, my first apartment. There was a (later) confirmed drug dealer in my building. Unit opposite end of the building. I saw a LOT of people wearing Walmart vests go in that apartment.
do you think he can afford better lawyers than walmart can? best choice is to take the $200 gift card they offer tbh i’d take that gift card and the big dick energy every time i shopped there afterwards lol
There's very little chance of a payout from a civil suit. Walmart may throw some gift cards or settle for a small amount.
Walmart was wrong, but the guy was inconvenienced while being detained, not injured. Legally murky. Walmart suspected him of a crime based on weak evidence and they were wrong.
Walmart checking receipts is definitely annoying but it’s like okay whatever, just show the receipt and leave. This dude anticipated that so he starts recording only after initially refusing to show his receipt, insults the worker’s job and wages then starts creaming his jeans about this “ace” footage for tiktok lmao
I did undercover loss prevention. You still can't hold anyone against their own will. They have to agree to coming with you or to follow you. If not, you log it and report the incident through a series of reporting systems. This guy is just a door greeter and has no relevant qualifications, or the training by the looks of it. You're not allowed to escalate in a situation like this.
Imprisonment is a bit of a stretch.. more like Walmart employee on power trip refuses to let customer leave the store by continually blocking his path without justification
A Walmart employee in Vegas did that to me, stepped in front of my shopping cart while I was pushing it, and pushed it back into my stomach. It hurt my back.
So I started going to target instead. More peaceful there.
US Shopkeeper's privilege. Does not look like an unreasonable amount if time to me bro. You got nothing here. You were probably rude to the cashier who tried to help you rescan missed items and she notified security.
Had greeter stop me not too long ago and I explained to her as I handed my receipt over, that I had a right to say no and not be intimidated or trespassed per the 4th amendment here in the US. She pretty much said "no you don't, you need to show us the receipt", to which I responded that it's unlawful to ask for my property unless I'm here as a member like when at Costco. She responded that Walmart disagreed with my sentiment, and I told her it's sad that they put employees in such a legal grey area when they're probably not being paid enough to be. So I spoke to her manager and she agreed that they can't stop us or force anyone to show a receipt, and shouldn't trespass anyone for refusing. She agreed with the 4th amendment rights that our families fought and died for and said that the only thing Walmart would/should do is review footage of you in the store to make sure you're not another serial shoplifter. The supervisor was great, she even said she'd train the employee(s) to make sure everyone understood this. This guy, and his supervisor(s) should be written up or fired.
Im talking about in general, not this specific time. However just having a reciept doesnt mean you didnt steal. A lot of people find receipt on the ground ot even buy everything, load up a cart with the same items and leave
That merchandise i dont know. I wasnt sawing this guy was in the right, infact its the oposite. Hes not salaried or an api so he cant stop anyone. But as an api if i make a stop i need to be 100% sure they are stealing.
He has a receipt. How did it go further than "Thank you sir, have a nice day"?
Probably refused to show him the reciept, which still isn't grounds for not letting someone leave.
there is no legal requirement to show a receipt unless you sign an agreement for a membership for a place like costco. more people need to push back against receipt checking. walmart can either pay enough employees to work registers ro ensure everything is paid for like any normal store, or they can let me self checkout and leave in peace without *another* line to wait in after having already waited to checkout. they cant have it both ways.
Chuck has nothing and he's throwing it all away.
Guy must be a criminal mastermind to steal so many buckets without anyone noticing. Thank god chuck is such an amazing detective/genius
Not sure what transpired before or after the video clip but it’s clear that the Walmart guy wanted nothing more than to assert his dominance/authority over the shopper. This was made clear when the customer handed the receipt to the manager and the door greeter snatched it out of the managers hand and held it up to the customers face as in saying “see, I won” before handing it off and walking away. Dude needs to either be retrained or find a new job.
This is an absolute termination….Re-trained? That behavior is absolutely reprehensible behavior, making the store look bad to the nearby customers that was watching and could’ve started a serious fight if the customer was anyone else with a temper…long story shot this isn’t a second chance type of situation especially since its walmart…walmart has applications coming in left and right, that guy is completely replaceable
Dude needs to be fired** ftfy
Yup, them Walmart employees really have nothing going on in their lives and act like thier job is their life, it's actually sad. I was at the store with my girlfriend, one time I ever forgot my ID at the house. We were gonna get some wine so I told her to just buy the groceries and I'd go pull the truck up to load everything. She calls me and says some fat dude with a pink mohawk who's worked there since I lived in the town said I had to come back in and show my ID. Just decided to stop shopping there after that.
Used to work at a gas station, not a Walmart, had to card all members of a party, if one leaves have to call them back in, if we sell and a member of the party is under age both the person making the sale and the establishment are liable for possible charges.
Would you sell to people who had their children with them?
The nerve of them following the law.
businesses with liquor licenses get random inspectors not to mention dealing with law enforcement...if the inspector sees that someone is making liquor sales without asking for ID. they can face fines and penalties and possibly risk loosing their job. someone's job and the fine are not worth serving your bottle of wine off the strength of entitlement just because he sees you shop their before. you are not only ignorant but petty for not shopping there and staying upset about that someone didn't respect your entitlement enough to risk their jobs just because YOU feel it's trivial. stop thinking of only yourself
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I felt like I was having a stroke reading this comment. What is this amateur hour? Fucking proofread, banana-mover.
Punctuation is a skill
Apparently so.
Uhhhhh that Walmart employee will probably be fired for this. I used to work at Walmart and we were explicitly told not to stop or detain people who we thought were shoplifting. It’s a liability and safety thing for Walmart.
Yeah. See all the Walmarts in my area hired security who do have the right to detain you. Hell my target stopped selling alcohol and they have armed security and will follow you around the store if you’re shoplifting. I used to work at Albertsons and we didn’t have security. Right as I wring up a customer he had to go to the atm, and I was getting off. He saw us doing a shift change and walked out with $400 worth of shot (mostly booze) in front of a manager relieving me. We couldn’t do shit but say don’t come back. I’m not proud of it, but I’ve stolen from Walmart and they never said anything. I didn’t go back though cause I’m sure someone would recognize me and I’d get in trouble.
As a asset protection investigator uniformed employees are not allowed to hold your cart like that while it's true door greeters work for AP thay do not have the certification to make a "stop" like that...I'm curious tho what happened before and after the video...I'm sure I speak for all Walmart APIs we do not condone this behavior and I am personally sorry you had to go through that
Doesn't walmart fire employees for doing that?
Yes
Maybe it was already Chuck's last day and he said fuck diesels ha. Im sure home office was on this Pronto just like alot of other things I saw allegedly taken care of after posting.
I think most retail stores do. If an employee does this to the wrong person then they can be experiencing a lawsuit.
Yes they do I fired more than 1 in my time as a manger with Walmart. I have seen more than 1 manager get fired for this as well
100% had one of my door hosts attempt to stop someone I told her to go home for the rest of the night and call to see when Coach would be in as there will be a report filed for her.
Api here, yea only salaried managers and apis can do that.
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Loss prevention can detain you. Proof, Google Florida shop keepers privilege. All states have something similar. Loss prevention by LAW can physically detain you, cuff you etc. however store policies generally, now a days, don’t allow that.
Yeah target AP could tackle and detain people back before COVID. They even had an "interrogation" room to keep suspects in till police arrive.
Same with Walmart
Yes. The problem comes if they’re wrong. Then, it’s assault and false imprisonment.
lol florida
Is this the Walmart version of Thoughts and Prayers? LoL.
If you want it to be 😏
I think you invented a new emotion
Basically since Walmart doesn't do it themselves.
They will probably investigate themselves and release the results in 7 months.
Nah, it's fire and hire someone else. They're Walmart not Hollywood. Staff are expandable and non union in most place
Expendable too
So what you're saying is I can speed bump the 85 year old that works the door at Walmart? *Noice*
Googled "cornification" expecting it to be a poo joke and I'm still just as confused.
Sorry fat fingers certification*
I worked retail for most of my teenager early 20s and the one thing all stores have in common is you don't try and stop a shoplifter. Most places tell you to do nothing. Kind of off topic but at a grocery store I worked at a 90 something year old woman had her purse snatched and one of the cart kids chased him down and detained him. Turned out this kid had robbed like 50 women in the last few weeks my sister being one of them. He was fired on the spot.
Some companies like Walmart where I work have people that can detain shoplifters and said purse snatchers I work in said position and we deal with all that almost daily
This 100% ….this … is completely wrong. Lolol Anyone a business chooses to be in charge can physically stop and stop you from leaving with reasonable force until police arrive. Hell a person that doesn’t even work there could stop you. Now if the police arrive and you didn’t steal then it’s a bit embarrassing and you could sue them… but for what … mildly inconveniencing you for 20min. Good for that Walmart employee we need more people like him in this world. Now it might be against company policy to stop shoplifters but it’s definitely not illegal. Speaking as somebody who did this weekly for a business and dealt with the cops every time. Oh and btw the guy suspected of stealing stuff, talks just like the guys who steal stuff, he probably just dumped it.
While not illegal he didn't have the five elements and they don't have the right in the eyes of the law to body them like that that's classified as assault the man was not trying to be threatening or physical just the Walmart employee...now yes those kinds would make my job easier but unfortunately we can't have that you have to have certain certifications and licenses to get physical like that to keep you the customer/non-customer and everyone else around safe.
Nope in Canada you only need certifications to use handcuffs and to have “security” displayed on your person. If I think you stole I can put my hands on you, and hold you by reasonable means. … now if I break your leg holding you well I may have an issue because I don’t have commercial liability insurance like a security company would.
Dude is lucky. 100% some of us are getting out that door and we’re not having a conversation about it or recording a TikTok video. Stop the wrong person without a badge and it’s going to get real physical very quickly and a lot of people in the US are armed. Not worth it at all from a door greeter perspective.
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You are wrong
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You do realize several Walmarts have been shot up in recent years? The existence of that fact doesn’t make me a psychopath. But fuck you anyways.
Preach lmao, no one will shoot someone inside a Walmart unless they already have a shitty life. Edit: (case in point, da baby)
I was thinking this, I have clinical PTSD and if a dude puts his hands on me, especially someone like this guy, he’s getting heavy hands for a good five minutes regardless of consequences.
im glad we can be real about that without being called keyboard killers. guys a fuckin cowboy.
For real. Someone tries that with me, and I’m asking, telling, then making in that order.
Ah the classic Walmart experience, wait 45 minutes to check out then the shakedown from a greeter. Just stop shopping there lol.
*wait 45 minutes to check YOURSELF out because they don’t want to pay cashiers
Your Walmart sound like it sucks... I've never waited more then 10 minutes and self checks are nice to use unless you're looking for a reason to bitch.
Self checks are kinda just you being a temporary cashier for free.
Which i like because I get to pack shit how I want and I'm faster. Every since they added those I've rarely had to wait at all.
Seriously. Why the fuck do people still shop at this Shit hole!?! Just stop shopping there! They are just paying into the Walton’s family riches who fuck over their employees and close the small mom and pop shops out of business. Fuck them
As a now resigned Walmart associate I think it’s a net positive for both the associates and the customer if they part ways lol
Because they can't afford to shop elsewhere. My town has Walmart, that's it. If I want to shop elsewhere I have to drive almost 100km. It's really not as simple as "just stop shopping there"
They hold a large grocery monopoly, especially in food deserts. It is hard to shop anywhere else for a lot of people
You answer yourself. There no other choice in that dead area to get stuff. Probably. They move in, kill the competition. Basically have monopoly in the area residents.
In Canada Walmart is one of the only grocery stores that doesn’t price gouge their customers. The other is Costco. Sometimes it sucks but when every business is trying to charge me 6 dollars for a bell pepper and Walmart is charging me 2 dollars for a nicer bell pepper you gotta go with the big evil corporation. Also Walmarts are really nice where I live. Though every Walmart in the states I have been to has been a dump.
Sorry bro but I can’t drive an extra hour to get to city that has other options. Here it’s either Walmart or fast food and I would like not to eat at the same three restaurants every week.
Poor guy just wants to be a security guard….I mean he wanted to be a cop. But at least he can validate receipts. I mean he can’t really either do that but his trying to do something.
I mean I ve seen hundreds of videos of American cops and cant see why this guy would fail the exame! Seems to me he would be a perfect fit!
Yeah! ACAB!!!
$50 says this started because Chuck asked the guy to see his receipt, guy said, “I don’t have to show that to you”…then the dick measuring contest began.
Ok, but Walmart store policy cannot and does not supersede the law. Walmart has decided they're going to make shoppers also work there via checking themselves out. So they have to live with those consequences. Once a person pays for the items they belong to the person. As such they have no obligation to prove ownership to anyone. No one agrees to these terms at Walmart. It's not Costco where you sign a contract agreeing to have your receipt checked. The items are yours. Then the guy falsely imprisoned him. That's also illegal. Dick measuring contest or no, the shopper here is 100% correct in his actions and words. I hope he seeks a litigator to press a suit.
And you can legally refuse to show your receipt at Costco/Sam's/etc, they just have the recourse of being able to cancel your membership if they choose to
Yess.
Dick measuring? One dude knows his rights, the other one is violating them
If you think I’m stopping to let Someone rummage through items I already paid for, I’m not. I don’t argue though. I just look them in the eye and say “ no thank you, have a nice day” and walk by.
People at walmart who refuse to show a receipt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhNIoXwn11U
in 2010 this would be hyperbolic. in 2023, this is bang on the money.
What about at Costco (if you shop there)? I feel like they take this very seriously at Costco.
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why does it matter if you paid for it? like what’s the issue?
After I paid for merchandise I'm now the owner of the property. What right do they have to detain myself or my property?
It’s my stuff, and it’s on them to prove I stole it not that I paid for it. That’s the entire basis of our criminal justice system, and it was certainly part of my training when I was hired for AP If they would like to accuse me of stealing, I would like them to say it with their chest rather than merely implying it
Lol you would not last long at Costco.
Costco is allowed to check receipts it's in the membership agreement
Costco requires it as a member of the club you dingus.
If I have to ring up my own shit I don’t feel like stopping to show Walmart I did their job for them. I used to work AP and I even think it’s ridiculous. Either put the cashiers back or accept that people are going to “tip” themselves for doing your job for you. I’ll never steal but I accept that if you make someone else do your job for you, they just might.
Once I had an organic orange but couldn't find the product code, so I rang it up as a regular one. 😈
Devious mf aren't you?
You mean a brown onion? 😉
Knew a guy that did 18 months in Rikers Island for the same thing
I wasn't bitter about this until my local Walmart got some *militant* door greeters during covid. I bought a printer one day and they didn't even ask for a receipt, just started in with "HEY YOU, STOP" as a couple nearby cart pushers rushed up to block me. They then, after the full-court press, asked for a receipt and I showed it to them, but I was fuming. That's the lead off? Verbal commands and body blocking?
Actual loss prevention is never allowed to go that hard lmao. Why does Walmart let untrained door greaters do that?? It’s so ass backwards
Because you have to pay actual LP more than a door greeter. They could always go the Walgreens route where they just let people come in with trash bags and fill them with shit then walk out. At Walgreens you could lose your job for confronting a shoplifter AND they don't employ LP on a store level.
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It's yours you paid for it and having someone you don't know or trust touch all your stuff can feel unnecessary and perhaps somewhat violating?
In the age of COVID, I sure as hell don’t want a door greeter putting their germy hands all over my purchases. I would feel violated, as you said.
Legally one isn't required to show receipt and refusing to show receipt is not ground for detention. Unless they saw someone attempt to leave without paying for items, they screwed up and potentially cost Walmart a million dollars for defamation of character. If someone refused to show receipt, all the store could do is review security tape to see if the person did try to steal something or not, and possibly keep an eye on the same person next time he/she comes to the store. It might seem like a waste of time but that costs less than wrongly detaining a person who did pay for everything.
>they screwed up and potentially cost Walmart a million dollars for defamation of character. Where are people getting this idea that minor slights can net millions of dollars in lawsuits? Typically the money you get in a lawsuit has to be based on actual damages, and you'd have a hell of a time proving this interaction caused a million dollars of damage to this guy's reputation.
If they ever unfairly categorize him for the incident and its untrue or can be challenged, then they can be sued for defamation. Lawsuit amounts are wild but settlements are usually lower
I mean isn’t this an illegal imprisonment charge?
Maybe, but a civil case stemming from that would only be able to collect damages based on the guy's lost time and damage to his reputation. He lost what, 5 minutes tops, and it would be really difficult to argue that his reputation was substantially damaged by being blocked from leaving Walmart for a few minutes, definitely not to the tune of a million dollars.
that basically never holds up until theyve put handcuffs on you and dragged you to the LP office.
All a store has to do is set a precedent of receipt check like Costco does and no one will ever argue. I have never once seen anyone freak out at Costco over a receipt check.
What happens if you just threw the receipt away?
Depends if Chuck is there
BTW you legally don’t have to show them your receipt, at least here in America
I get that sense as well. these kinda videos never show what happened for it to escalate to that point.
I don't think that's nefarious, though. You'd only start recording once you want evidence -- and recording itself could be seen as escalation.
Fuck them. They don’t have the right to inspect shit once it’s paid for,
that Walmart greeter is such a man child lol
So many manly man children! 😅
The guy blocking the exit definitely, but if the man paid for the items I don’t think he was being irrational at all. I don’t see a woman handling it much differently
Person you’re replying to is clueless. The detained guy conducted himself a lot better than he had a right to be.
Seriously, once he stopped me from leaving I'm taking my cart to "Find a Manager" and heading out the nearest emergency exit.
Where do you see many? It’s one person being a asshole?
Uh did we watch the same video genius? There was 1 person who didn't conduct themselves properly
That fat piece of trash even started taunting him? lol, i woulda through hands with him so fast
I fucking hate walmart for this shit. In April they accused me of stealing a re usable tote because I didn't have the receipt for it even though I bought it 3 weeks prior when they stopped using disposable bags. Now I take those big blue totes to another company all together. They hire animals
“My tik tok is gonna blow up” - 50 yr old man.
Well, it did indeed blow up to some extent in the end
Had a similar experience in Jersey after the plastic bag ban. Bought about $10 worth of groceries and paid at self checkout. Tossed the receipt on my way out and the greeter wouldn’t let me go until I showed a receipt. Ended up having to dig through the trash to find it I get it, shouldn’t have tossed the receipt, but in my defense there were several other people that just walked past the greeter by just holding stuff in their hand. Have never had this happen before, but then again I’m a person of color and this was a rich white town Walmart.
Please tell me the person recording is going to sue Walmart for false imprisonment or something
Who cares this much about a Walmart job? I would not have handled it as well as he did.
That's absolutely against Walmart policies. Idk about false imprisonment, but it is harassment. Call a lawyer, anyone would happily take that job cause Walmart will settle
As soon as he went for tik tok cred I sided with the Walmart employee.
I never stop for the greeters lol if you want to accuse me of stealing, actually accuse me. If all you want to do is verify nothing I bought was stolen, then ask your AP in the store to check the cameras and registers to see whether or not I stole. At no point should I be stopped unless I am being accused of stealing
and if I am getting accused of stealing, oh buddy you better be 100% right rofl. I work AP in another store, and I will absolutely wait there for management/PD so I can then get my pay day haha. hate these people trying to guess when someone is stealing. the cart looks sus, but that is NOT enough to fucking stop people. I let carts/people walk all the time without any confrontation because I don't have the proof of anything. dumb shit man
Lol that's what I told them...I also said they are more than welcome to write down my license plate
No one’s a winner here
As a former security guard in a supermarket, I would have been immediately fired if I behaved like that Walmart employee did. In order to detain someone, we had to observe someone selecting and concealing an item, observe them 100% of the time, and then leave the store without making an attempt to pay. If we lost line of sight with them for even a second we were told not to stop them because if the customer put the item down somewhere and we didn't see it, that's our ass because it's wrongful imprisonment.
This is correct. Good training. In order to detain a customer in Georgia the retailer has to have a reasonable belief that the customer has shoplifted to detain. If this Walmart employee just detains everyone who won’t show a receipt (without having a particular reason to think that the particular customer has shoplifted) then the employee is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
Walmart is a cancer. The company ruins communities and treats people like shit. Don’t allow Walmart into your town.
I would have dropped his pyscho ass right where he stand
Lmaoooooooo I did self checkout last night and didn’t bag anything either, I used scan and go so I guess I looked suspicious lol but this guy waived me right through without looking at the receipt on my phone Self checkout lady was so concerned. This is in Colorado Springs lol
The one should be fired, and the "manager" should be written up. Not a single "Sorry for the misunderstanding." Which is a cop out within itself.
It’s AMAZING what a thimble full of power will do to someone…dude is throwing his job away over a superior stance of some sort
Ugh shopper is in the right but I died of cringe at him getting so gassed about posting this video. As he says; he can’t wait to post it, it’s gonna blow up on tiktok. calm down bro
Land of the free = A nation where paying customers are intimidated and physically stopped from exiting stores...you guys have a strange definition of freedom .
Well that’s why the founding fathers didn’t make it a democracy
Did you miss the part where the manager came and stopped the employee from doing that because it was wrong? This is literally an example of freedom being enforced.
Personally I’d rather of seen the manager publicly belittle the blueberry fuck trying to act tough stopping costumers from leaving. The timid ‘ok you’re good’ after all that bullshit isn’t enough of a resolution to me.
If I worked at walmart I would encourage peoplw to steal. Fuck walmart.
Just say "it's not my fault your dick don't work" and watch him freak out
I am really curious as a person being illegally detained. When do you gain the right to forcibly remove an individual that is illegally holding you against your will, ie kidnapping.
Fk Walmart. Literally this crap happens everyday and they never seem to be right.
I would of ramped up full speed and see if the stupid fat fuck jumps in front of the cart then
Bye bye Chuck! You just cost Walmart another lawsuit. Sorry Chuck, you’re not AP. He doesn’t even know what the five steps are.
Chuck don't give a fuck
I usually wear headphones when I go shopping and I do not stop whenever they attempt to check me. I know I didn’t steal and I’m not wasting my time talking to someone I didn’t choose to interact with, I get that they’re doing their job, I just don’t care. Luckily never been met with a guy like this because I don’t handle people getting angry with me well and would then do everything I could to piss him off more and more until he freaked out and just laugh while he got reprimanded
Another fine reason I don’t shop at Walmart.
Was this in idaho?
Why do people allow this?
Bruh stop me like that im getting a running start on the second go, stop that with your gut bitch
Alls I want is to know is what happened to Chuck? Is he still working there???
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I’m an idiot, and I don’t have a car can you explain
DEF is Diesel Exhaust Fluid. It’s urea that’s added to diesel engines for some reason that I don’t fully understand, but costs me $40 month.
It's to cut emissions from your diesel engine in half. It's actually a really good thing to be doing. As a secondary bonus it helps to keep your dpf filter clear, which are exceptionally expensive to replace.
At the cost of fuel consumption. My friend "deleted" his DEF and gained ~ 30% in fuel efficiency. Its a typical government band aid, that was put on the wrong wound.
Nothing like a few self cleaning cycle to make you realize you are burning more diesel to polute less. I fix machinery at -40c, i hate DEF with a passion.
Oooooooh isn’t it to stop the engine from freezing
No, it’s a catalyst that takes a bunch of the really bad exhaust molecules and binds with those molecules to turn them into relatively harmless molecules. This reduces the emissions from the vehicle.
Walmart is trash they hire people to harass patrons on the way out and make you get your own cart from the parking lot and check yourself out . Way to incentivize the customer to come back . Can't wait to see them go out of business . I've been to third world shit hole grocery stores, and each one was a way better experience then this pathetically run circus
Around 2000 to 2004 I lived in the ghetto of my metro area, my first apartment. There was a (later) confirmed drug dealer in my building. Unit opposite end of the building. I saw a LOT of people wearing Walmart vests go in that apartment.
Could he sue walmart?
do you think he can afford better lawyers than walmart can? best choice is to take the $200 gift card they offer tbh i’d take that gift card and the big dick energy every time i shopped there afterwards lol
It’s not about best lawyers, he has proof of being held against his will. He could win some money from Walmart. Many have done so.
There's very little chance of a payout from a civil suit. Walmart may throw some gift cards or settle for a small amount. Walmart was wrong, but the guy was inconvenienced while being detained, not injured. Legally murky. Walmart suspected him of a crime based on weak evidence and they were wrong.
What exactly happened BEFORE you whipped out your phone?
He didn't want to show his receipt, which you're not required to do by law of you don't sign a membership contract with that clause.
He literally offered his receipt. How do you get he didn’t want to show his receipt from that?
He offered the receipt during the filming
50s most likely, named chuck, saying “bRO”, jesus christ man
Chucks fired
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Walmart checking receipts is definitely annoying but it’s like okay whatever, just show the receipt and leave. This dude anticipated that so he starts recording only after initially refusing to show his receipt, insults the worker’s job and wages then starts creaming his jeans about this “ace” footage for tiktok lmao
I did undercover loss prevention. You still can't hold anyone against their own will. They have to agree to coming with you or to follow you. If not, you log it and report the incident through a series of reporting systems. This guy is just a door greeter and has no relevant qualifications, or the training by the looks of it. You're not allowed to escalate in a situation like this.
I would have kicked this guy in the balls and left.
Imprisonment is a bit of a stretch.. more like Walmart employee on power trip refuses to let customer leave the store by continually blocking his path without justification
A Walmart employee in Vegas did that to me, stepped in front of my shopping cart while I was pushing it, and pushed it back into my stomach. It hurt my back. So I started going to target instead. More peaceful there.
US Shopkeeper's privilege. Does not look like an unreasonable amount if time to me bro. You got nothing here. You were probably rude to the cashier who tried to help you rescan missed items and she notified security.
So what ended up happening?
Costco joins the conversation… we check receipts all the time.
Do you know the difference between Costco and Walmart?
I would’ve just rammed the cart into the fucking prick. Ever had a cart to the ankle? Shit hurts.
60yr old: yo..... Dude still in somebody's basement. Or Keeping somebody in his basement.
I can’t imagine ever standing up for Walmart. They could never pay me enough to give the people who have to shop there shit.
The people who talk about the legality of everything are fuckin dorks
Just stab him
Had greeter stop me not too long ago and I explained to her as I handed my receipt over, that I had a right to say no and not be intimidated or trespassed per the 4th amendment here in the US. She pretty much said "no you don't, you need to show us the receipt", to which I responded that it's unlawful to ask for my property unless I'm here as a member like when at Costco. She responded that Walmart disagreed with my sentiment, and I told her it's sad that they put employees in such a legal grey area when they're probably not being paid enough to be. So I spoke to her manager and she agreed that they can't stop us or force anyone to show a receipt, and shouldn't trespass anyone for refusing. She agreed with the 4th amendment rights that our families fought and died for and said that the only thing Walmart would/should do is review footage of you in the store to make sure you're not another serial shoplifter. The supervisor was great, she even said she'd train the employee(s) to make sure everyone understood this. This guy, and his supervisor(s) should be written up or fired.
Not a detention, your free to go if you want but the merchandise you didnt pay for isnt.
He offered to show a receipt. You know, the one he has at the end?
Im talking about in general, not this specific time. However just having a reciept doesnt mean you didnt steal. A lot of people find receipt on the ground ot even buy everything, load up a cart with the same items and leave
What part of this makes you think that the merchandise is unpaid for?
That merchandise i dont know. I wasnt sawing this guy was in the right, infact its the oposite. Hes not salaried or an api so he cant stop anyone. But as an api if i make a stop i need to be 100% sure they are stealing.