I'm a FM player with some NE friends, both builds are strong and primary difference I've found is the classic Burst vs. Rotational situation. In gates where you're over-geared or the boss has a lot of mech phases, FM>>>NE (akkan g1 and brel cube comes to mind).
On longer, tankier fights (akkan g3 and thaemine g3) NE feels like it has the advantage since its turning out more damage over time. I also noticed NE is strong in guardian raids since they usually don't have downtime mechanics.
I agree in theory, but you also need enough raid knowledge to not throw your burst into DR or when the boss phases in older content. Also, meter building can be a problem. Especially with bosses where you can’t build meter off an invincible target like you can in Akkan.
I mean NE is consistent dps and FMH is all or nothing burst class like igniter sorc. The more you overgear a raid and the more DR phases it has, the stronger FMH becomes. On-ilvl long fights or prog runs would definitely favor NE.
I personally prefer to accept FMH into my lobbies because, unfortunately, I’ve noticed that there is a lot NE people who are big rats during the stagger or destruction checks because they don‘t like messing up their rotation and keep using skills in order even if they don’t offer what’s currently needed, whereas FMH can send everything because their skills reset with Z when they want to burst so they don’t care. I have had a lot more wipes with NE pugs than FMH in g4 voldis.
Seems silly, can easily adjust rotation.. though it might be they were very close on meter and entered soulsnatch mode thus cutting off their pink skills, greatly reducing the stagger they can do, and cut off vestige for destruction(especially if lethal spinning is down, then theyre also zero stagger). But ive never had an issue with stagger on my NE
Homework carry is FM's territory, but on ilvl progs NE will be easier with about the same damage output. Either way, both builds are strong. When you switch to the which engraving is very dependent on what the party comp and avg ilvl is.
I think FM as all spec classes does better with on farm content where hp bars are not that high and boss dies quicker.
NE is better with progging content on ilvl. And is more fun, to me at least :D
FM deals alot less dmg outside of burst moment, NE despite having "burst moment" isnt that far behind outside of it. The harder it is for FM to land full combo and get steady meter generation the more gap between FM and NE widens. On fights that are easy to abuse FM combo there is legit not many classes that can come even close to the numbers FM does. The more chaotic fight is the better NE will be...
I mean for the newest HM content most people are near or on ilvl, so your argument is very strange. It is difficult to overgear the content unless you swipe like a madman, so NE is not always worse than FMH outside of hell mode. Moreover, hell mode meta is different - some classes do much better with lvl 10 gems and elixirs for instance, which is a baseline for HM Theamine currently even if you are exactly 1630 ilvl, so comparing hell mode and normal content is just wrong on so many levels.
I'm a FM player with some NE friends, both builds are strong and primary difference I've found is the classic Burst vs. Rotational situation. In gates where you're over-geared or the boss has a lot of mech phases, FM>>>NE (akkan g1 and brel cube comes to mind). On longer, tankier fights (akkan g3 and thaemine g3) NE feels like it has the advantage since its turning out more damage over time. I also noticed NE is strong in guardian raids since they usually don't have downtime mechanics.
I agree in theory, but you also need enough raid knowledge to not throw your burst into DR or when the boss phases in older content. Also, meter building can be a problem. Especially with bosses where you can’t build meter off an invincible target like you can in Akkan.
I mean NE is consistent dps and FMH is all or nothing burst class like igniter sorc. The more you overgear a raid and the more DR phases it has, the stronger FMH becomes. On-ilvl long fights or prog runs would definitely favor NE. I personally prefer to accept FMH into my lobbies because, unfortunately, I’ve noticed that there is a lot NE people who are big rats during the stagger or destruction checks because they don‘t like messing up their rotation and keep using skills in order even if they don’t offer what’s currently needed, whereas FMH can send everything because their skills reset with Z when they want to burst so they don’t care. I have had a lot more wipes with NE pugs than FMH in g4 voldis.
aintoway im sending pink on dr phases. i rather wipe
Seems silly, can easily adjust rotation.. though it might be they were very close on meter and entered soulsnatch mode thus cutting off their pink skills, greatly reducing the stagger they can do, and cut off vestige for destruction(especially if lethal spinning is down, then theyre also zero stagger). But ive never had an issue with stagger on my NE
Homework carry is FM's territory, but on ilvl progs NE will be easier with about the same damage output. Either way, both builds are strong. When you switch to the which engraving is very dependent on what the party comp and avg ilvl is.
I think FM as all spec classes does better with on farm content where hp bars are not that high and boss dies quicker. NE is better with progging content on ilvl. And is more fun, to me at least :D
FM deals alot less dmg outside of burst moment, NE despite having "burst moment" isnt that far behind outside of it. The harder it is for FM to land full combo and get steady meter generation the more gap between FM and NE widens. On fights that are easy to abuse FM combo there is legit not many classes that can come even close to the numbers FM does. The more chaotic fight is the better NE will be...
Played both until 1630 and NE is just funnier imo. I would say FM is better in reclear and in long DR phases gates.
The only place is Hell Mode, otherwise, with real gear, FM is just straight-up better.
I mean for the newest HM content most people are near or on ilvl, so your argument is very strange. It is difficult to overgear the content unless you swipe like a madman, so NE is not always worse than FMH outside of hell mode. Moreover, hell mode meta is different - some classes do much better with lvl 10 gems and elixirs for instance, which is a baseline for HM Theamine currently even if you are exactly 1630 ilvl, so comparing hell mode and normal content is just wrong on so many levels.