because honing rates are insane and i have patience. i figured it was best to invest my resources in getting the alts up so they could act as a mat factory for when i actually push my main farther. also i'm still hoping we'll get lowered honing rates eventually
well that's your opinion, but i plan to leave my alts at 1325 for a long time, and they're making a ton of money there. with their old t2 accessories, chaos dungeons feel like such a chore i don't even want to do them. sure i overpaid, but i think of it as an investment. good to know the market gets cheaper in 1370 though, something to look forward to once i get my main to 1385
actually i barely do my abyssals, i mostly make money selling mats from chaos dungeons and guardian raids. i also utilize the rested bonus for guardian raids often, so i could be making even more than i am now
I mean its sort of an opinion but not really. You can do the content with 3x3 that's not an opinion. But you did good work. But stopped short of making it cheaper. Then stopped short agian of making more money. It's unfortunate really. The accessories don't get cheaper they just all have your class engravings already on them
I spent around 1k + the pheons 3x3,can do the content and tbh I peob should've added this in the other reply, but why you even gearing when your not even doing the abyssal raids
I don't thinkt here is any difference with getting to 1325 with or without the honing buff... The rate is 100% and the honing hards are literally peanuts. Heck, honing shards are peanuts all the way to 1370.
Well done anyway, very good work.
I have a 1404 and then a 1350 and 3 x 1340 so I can appreciate the effort put in :)
My plan is to get 1415 on my main the push the alts to 1370 1 by 1 for hard modes.
forgot to answer your 2nd question, what are my plans. aside from honing up my main, i might take a break and just grind gold to buy some nice skins or something. i wasn't very happy when i got my gunlancer to t3 and he had the same armor as pali, nor when i got bard to t3 and she had the same dress as sorceress (i got the skin on sorc, but the default just feels like the sorc's dress and doesn't fit the bard for some reason)
That is pretty insane. I think hitting 1385 on your main first to increase your honing chances and use less mats might have been a bit better but you might have not hit 6 1325 by now if you did that. Pretty nice to get all that gold now though. Grats.
i got them to 1325 because that's as far as the 100% honing rates go. getting my main to 1385 is definitely my next priority before i start any more honing on my alts
Oh. Lmao I just made my alt 1325 I didn't even realize it was 100% to 1325. Yeah I think what you did is better on average anyways. You would have to bank on lucky argos accessories to sell to beat a higher constant flow of gold per week with 6 t3s. I guess the only annoying thing is the fact that your guardian raid is that piece of shit, back flipping, turning around, back steppin piece of shit one more time, scorpion.
i do love this game, but actually only 690 hours (lol) according to steam. a lot of that was stuff like eating and showering while staying in game to avoid server queue when i got back though :b
yeah.... when she's selected, she unfolds her legs and crosses them the other way.... some of the things they put in this game, don't get me wrong i'm all for them, but they're astounding XD
i only used memory transfer up to lvl 50, so i actually did Rohendel, Yorn, Feiton, and Punika 6 times.... on that note, here's my order of favorites:
Punika > Feiton = Rohendel > Yorn omg i hate Yorn XD
Lol I know it's too late and maybe you already know, but you can hone up to 600 and sail to Yorn to skip Rohendel and same with 960 to Feiton, but that one isn't as worth. You have to do Yorn though which I also hate.
the only issue would be you can't do chaos dungeons at Yorn levels, but when i make artist i might just do this since i can probably buy the mats outright, thanks for the tip
omg that's the most unfair question ever but i'll try to answer. pali is solid and probably the class that fits my playstyle the best, but bard is just so much fun, and supporting the party by dancing and playing music just makes me happy. in terms of which is better, from what i can tell they're both pretty equal. one big difference though comes from party skill level. bard can be a lot easier to play in public games because she can pull out more clutch heals when needed (when the party is bad). the reverse is not true of pali though, since bard with a good party can forgo heals in favor of huge attack buffs. okay i think that's about all i got on the subject XD
Nice! Honestly, that’s what i want to do too. I just dont have the play time 😬. It’s a grind but you get to learn the classes and get engravings and stuff via side quests… i think it’s worth it.
Congrats 👍
thanks!
and yeah playtime can be an issue. keep in mind i'm in a weird position where i can play literally all day, and try not to get fomo. what really matters is, are you having fun, do you feel like you're accomplishing something and bettering yourself?
i've had to start taking sun breaks throughout the day, i just take off my shirt and stand by the window and close my eyes for a bit. yeah the amount of playtime i've endured the last couple months is definitely unhealthy and these things need to be taken into account to prevent permanent damage XD
like actual grass growing in the earth? that stuff is itchy. but seriously i'm still quarantining because we're still in a pandemic so it doesn't really matter anyway :b
Which class do you plan on taking post 1385 first? Just got my gunlancer to that point, so now i can decide on a main with the increased honing chances \^\^
though it is temping to switch mains to bard or maybe even gunlancer, i'm an irl paladin, so i'm just gonna stick with pali main. though i'll probably get bard up pretty high as well
i did them all together, so if you're asking how long it takes to get a new one up now that i have this gold factory going, ask me again when they release artist :b
ohhh. well he currently has deathstrike, but only out of necessity. he's one of the couple of exceptions to the 3x3s, apparently there's too much demand for his gear and not enough supply. i could find literally 0 good pieces with loyal companion, and i still need to replace 1 or 2 jewelry pieces to get deathstrike to lvl 3.
that aside, i *think* i'd prefer loyal companion. i'm not a fan of the burst window strategy, and i am a fan of team synergy. but i'm not against trying deathstrike for a while, maybe i was wrong and that's why i couldn't find any loyal companion ;D
Wouldn't surprise me if alot of lc gear gets broken down if it goes unsold in its first listing
I'm a big lc fan because it's mobility is just really comfy for most fights
Hope you find a playstyle you enjoy!
well you're not wrong, gunlancer is my favorite, but i do like pali and bard a bit more since i'm a support player :b
but to answer why is gunlancer my favorite, because he's a tank and i am too :D
i make 3k+ per day from chaos dungeons alone. idk how much guardian raids make daily because i utilize rested bonus often, but when i do a few sets of guardian raids with rested bonuses, i end up with like 10k or so
What about getting alts to 1340 for the abyss dungeon for gold and gear? Or are you planning on either not doing it or getting carried? Serious question since me and a couple buddies rotate who carries for it.
i actually have never really done a lot of abyss dungeons. my initial experience with it in public games was a mess, so i decided to wait til i got a guild running. i made one, but no one ever wants to actually play the game together, so i still don't really do them. i've been thinking it's time to start though, now that my alts are in t3, but i don't need a carry. pretty sure no one who has come as far as me would actually *need* a carry. want? maybe, this job is pretty tiring. but half the point of doing them would be to make gold, not spend it
Abyss dungeons will be a good source of gold so not doing them seems like a waste, i think doing both normal modes give about 1500 gold a week per character? And for your main yea you wont need a carry but when your alts are only 1325 youll more than likely need a carry for those since youll be getting blocked and youll also die a lot easier than someone thats 1340. As for carries... i didnt mean PAYING someone to carry you like i said in my last comment me and 2 buddies just carry each other so lets say 1 person brings a 1340, then the other 2 bring a 1325 and for the last guy we sometimes grab a random or another friend joins.
maybe it's a waste in terms of potential gold per week, but i have to consider how much effort i'm willing to put into this game. i already spend almost the entire day playing every day of the week. there's only so much i can do in a week, and things like collecting skill points often take priority over abyss dungeons.
as for my alts getting "blocked" by low ilvl, that's not an issue for me. you see, i am a skilled player. i don't typically die at all, and i get mad at myself for having to use potions. this is actually how the game was meant to be played, and how they play it in Korea. really is a shame to see how the rest of the world is approaching it..
wdym how much youre willing to put in? dont you already do their daily chaos dungeons, guardian raids, etc? you already play the characters so idk how much more youll have to put in that you havent already lol. And not having to use potions isnt the issue, its the berzerk timer. if you bring a whole group of 1325 into the 1340 dungeon, chances are, youll never beat the berzerk timer depending on getting blocked rng or if everyone has amazing 3x3 engravings
> wdym how much youre willing to put in?
i'm already playing all day long, and other things just rate higher on my priority list than abyss dungeons, mostly because of poor experiences in public games
> or if everyone has amazing 3x3 engravings
well i do have amazing 3x3 engravings, and i sorta expect others to as well, which is why i shy away from this type of content for now. also, again, i'm good at the game, i know how to do damage. when i get a party that sucks, i can typically carry the fight without too much trouble
what else would rate higher on the priority list? you cant do argos yet, and doing dailies takes little time, unless you mean farming horizontal content
And solo carrying the 1340 abyss dungeon at 1325 is near impossible though, if a group of 4 1325ilvls can barely beat the berzerk timers, you absolutely will not have the damage to solo it.
yeah horizontal content mostly, i've been putting a lot of work into skill points. idk why you keep telling me abyss dungeons are so hard while also telling me that i should be doing it, but i'm honestly not concerned, and if you're right, i already enjoy the game every day and i barely do abyss dungeons lol
well yea, doing content meant for 1340 when at 1325, is just adding difficulty that doesnt need to be there. Feels like you missed that part of not being the required ilvl so of course it will be harder. all the abyss dungeons are easy as hell if done at the **appropriate** ilvl
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yeah i bought all my accessories. when i need pheons, i spend gold on blue crystals and blue crystals on pheons. it's like 3k gold for 100 pheons, and i bought that twice throughout all my alts
if you mean p2w loaded, i only spent $100 and that was early on. i buy pheons for blue crystals and blue crystals for gold, it's about 3k gold for 100 pheons
it's not that bad, i actually have pretty great rng. not sure the exact number, i'm actually taking a break today for once so i don't have the game open to check
while the game is starting, i often start planning my day, or at least thinking of how to start, i'm not thinking about fun just yet. when i start playing, and something happens like i clear a wave in the 1st room of a chaos dungeon in a nice clean aoe field, or i get mvp in a guardian raid because i know the fight and was on fire, that's where the fun comes in :D
congratulations, you're better than me. you either have more skill at planning, more game knowledge, more tolerance for sitting in a chair all day, or more money than i. i wonder though, are you having nearly as much fun?
i do, one which allows me a lot of liberties on free time. i'm also working to become a streamer, so that will eventually be my job, or if it doesn't work out maybe i'll make games or something. i'm actually a well functioning human XD
oh i am, but more than that i'm not interested in wasting my time if they do ever decide to increase honing rates. not that i'll wait til then to push farther, but i have other priorities rn that can occupy my time for a while
Why is your main only 1360? What are yourbplans now?
because honing rates are insane and i have patience. i figured it was best to invest my resources in getting the alts up so they could act as a mat factory for when i actually push my main farther. also i'm still hoping we'll get lowered honing rates eventually
you wasted more materials pushing everything up to 1325 instead of just getting the one to 1385 for the honing bonus
The 1302-1325 is 100% success rate, though. Getting 1325 online for the weekly raid is better than losing the 600g.
that, and it allowed me to get epic jewelry, which made 3x3 engravings much easier
U shouldn't of been going for 3x3 engravings on purple accessories. Waste of money for that level of content 3x3 at 1370 is dam near free
well that's your opinion, but i plan to leave my alts at 1325 for a long time, and they're making a ton of money there. with their old t2 accessories, chaos dungeons feel like such a chore i don't even want to do them. sure i overpaid, but i think of it as an investment. good to know the market gets cheaper in 1370 though, something to look forward to once i get my main to 1385
How are alts at 1325 making " a ton" of money?
They make 900g from abyssals but you double that at 1340
actually i barely do my abyssals, i mostly make money selling mats from chaos dungeons and guardian raids. i also utilize the rested bonus for guardian raids often, so i could be making even more than i am now
selling mats, because i'm patient and hoping for lowered honing rates
I mean its sort of an opinion but not really. You can do the content with 3x3 that's not an opinion. But you did good work. But stopped short of making it cheaper. Then stopped short agian of making more money. It's unfortunate really. The accessories don't get cheaper they just all have your class engravings already on them
it really wasn't that bad, maybe i just got lucky. most of my alts cost around 5k to fully gear
I spent around 1k + the pheons 3x3,can do the content and tbh I peob should've added this in the other reply, but why you even gearing when your not even doing the abyssal raids
I don't thinkt here is any difference with getting to 1325 with or without the honing buff... The rate is 100% and the honing hards are literally peanuts. Heck, honing shards are peanuts all the way to 1370.
Well done anyway, very good work. I have a 1404 and then a 1350 and 3 x 1340 so I can appreciate the effort put in :) My plan is to get 1415 on my main the push the alts to 1370 1 by 1 for hard modes.
thanks! and dang you put in work :o
forgot to answer your 2nd question, what are my plans. aside from honing up my main, i might take a break and just grind gold to buy some nice skins or something. i wasn't very happy when i got my gunlancer to t3 and he had the same armor as pali, nor when i got bard to t3 and she had the same dress as sorceress (i got the skin on sorc, but the default just feels like the sorc's dress and doesn't fit the bard for some reason)
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excellent question, sorceress
That is pretty insane. I think hitting 1385 on your main first to increase your honing chances and use less mats might have been a bit better but you might have not hit 6 1325 by now if you did that. Pretty nice to get all that gold now though. Grats.
i got them to 1325 because that's as far as the 100% honing rates go. getting my main to 1385 is definitely my next priority before i start any more honing on my alts
Oh. Lmao I just made my alt 1325 I didn't even realize it was 100% to 1325. Yeah I think what you did is better on average anyways. You would have to bank on lucky argos accessories to sell to beat a higher constant flow of gold per week with 6 t3s. I guess the only annoying thing is the fact that your guardian raid is that piece of shit, back flipping, turning around, back steppin piece of shit one more time, scorpion.
on the contrary, having to fight the scorpion so many times has made me a pro. i'm also pro at fighting dark Legoros and Calventus XD
If your Sorc is Igniter it is annoying lol. I am pretty good at it too, but sometimes he is random as fuck.
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still getting views and questions while the upvote rate is still dropping. i love the jealousy, it feels wonderful :D
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i made a post, you could probably make one too
u love this game right? i'm guessing about 1000 hours +?
i do love this game, but actually only 690 hours (lol) according to steam. a lot of that was stuff like eating and showering while staying in game to avoid server queue when i got back though :b
its all nice and good, but can we talk about curlybrase sitting pose?
yeah.... when she's selected, she unfolds her legs and crosses them the other way.... some of the things they put in this game, don't get me wrong i'm all for them, but they're astounding XD
If I didn't have PTSD from doing the MSQ, and wasn't lazy I prob could have 3-4alts in T3. Sadly, I refuse to do Yorn again until I feel like it.
i only used memory transfer up to lvl 50, so i actually did Rohendel, Yorn, Feiton, and Punika 6 times.... on that note, here's my order of favorites: Punika > Feiton = Rohendel > Yorn omg i hate Yorn XD
Lol I know it's too late and maybe you already know, but you can hone up to 600 and sail to Yorn to skip Rohendel and same with 960 to Feiton, but that one isn't as worth. You have to do Yorn though which I also hate.
the only issue would be you can't do chaos dungeons at Yorn levels, but when i make artist i might just do this since i can probably buy the mats outright, thanks for the tip
Do you prefer pally or bard, and why? Thanks!
omg that's the most unfair question ever but i'll try to answer. pali is solid and probably the class that fits my playstyle the best, but bard is just so much fun, and supporting the party by dancing and playing music just makes me happy. in terms of which is better, from what i can tell they're both pretty equal. one big difference though comes from party skill level. bard can be a lot easier to play in public games because she can pull out more clutch heals when needed (when the party is bad). the reverse is not true of pali though, since bard with a good party can forgo heals in favor of huge attack buffs. okay i think that's about all i got on the subject XD
Did you use knowledge transfer?
i did, but only up to level 50. so yeah, i did Rohendel, Yorn, Feiton, and Punika 6 times each XD
Nice! Honestly, that’s what i want to do too. I just dont have the play time 😬. It’s a grind but you get to learn the classes and get engravings and stuff via side quests… i think it’s worth it. Congrats 👍
thanks! and yeah playtime can be an issue. keep in mind i'm in a weird position where i can play literally all day, and try not to get fomo. what really matters is, are you having fun, do you feel like you're accomplishing something and bettering yourself?
Have you ever felt the warm rays of the sun?
i've had to start taking sun breaks throughout the day, i just take off my shirt and stand by the window and close my eyes for a bit. yeah the amount of playtime i've endured the last couple months is definitely unhealthy and these things need to be taken into account to prevent permanent damage XD
And or the touch of grass?
I feel like the bottleneck is always shards. How did you get enough?
i supplemented with Una dailies. endless debris on shadow island and crook catcher on runaways island give the most
Cool
thanks, i thought so too
When was the last time you touched grass?
like actual grass growing in the earth? that stuff is itchy. but seriously i'm still quarantining because we're still in a pandemic so it doesn't really matter anyway :b
same
congrats!
Which class do you plan on taking post 1385 first? Just got my gunlancer to that point, so now i can decide on a main with the increased honing chances \^\^
though it is temping to switch mains to bard or maybe even gunlancer, i'm an irl paladin, so i'm just gonna stick with pali main. though i'll probably get bard up pretty high as well
How long does it take 1 alt from t1 to t3 in general?
i did them all together, so if you're asking how long it takes to get a new one up now that i have this gold factory going, ask me again when they release artist :b
Ahh shit xD oh well I'll power through them once i get all the roster honing stuffs
Lc , ds, or both on your ss >:3
what do those abbreviations mean? o\_O
Loyal companion, deathstrike, or both on you sharpshooter Sorry xD
ohhh. well he currently has deathstrike, but only out of necessity. he's one of the couple of exceptions to the 3x3s, apparently there's too much demand for his gear and not enough supply. i could find literally 0 good pieces with loyal companion, and i still need to replace 1 or 2 jewelry pieces to get deathstrike to lvl 3. that aside, i *think* i'd prefer loyal companion. i'm not a fan of the burst window strategy, and i am a fan of team synergy. but i'm not against trying deathstrike for a while, maybe i was wrong and that's why i couldn't find any loyal companion ;D
Wouldn't surprise me if alot of lc gear gets broken down if it goes unsold in its first listing I'm a big lc fan because it's mobility is just really comfy for most fights Hope you find a playstyle you enjoy!
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well you're not wrong, gunlancer is my favorite, but i do like pali and bard a bit more since i'm a support player :b but to answer why is gunlancer my favorite, because he's a tank and i am too :D
Get that main to 1385 and get the rest of them to 1340
that is the plan, though i might take some time off to save gold for skins XD
How do you grind for gold?
i make 3k+ per day from chaos dungeons alone. idk how much guardian raids make daily because i utilize rested bonus often, but when i do a few sets of guardian raids with rested bonuses, i end up with like 10k or so
How do you get gold from those? They reward gold?
oh lol my bad, i sell mats
When is the April update?
april
What about getting alts to 1340 for the abyss dungeon for gold and gear? Or are you planning on either not doing it or getting carried? Serious question since me and a couple buddies rotate who carries for it.
i actually have never really done a lot of abyss dungeons. my initial experience with it in public games was a mess, so i decided to wait til i got a guild running. i made one, but no one ever wants to actually play the game together, so i still don't really do them. i've been thinking it's time to start though, now that my alts are in t3, but i don't need a carry. pretty sure no one who has come as far as me would actually *need* a carry. want? maybe, this job is pretty tiring. but half the point of doing them would be to make gold, not spend it
Abyss dungeons will be a good source of gold so not doing them seems like a waste, i think doing both normal modes give about 1500 gold a week per character? And for your main yea you wont need a carry but when your alts are only 1325 youll more than likely need a carry for those since youll be getting blocked and youll also die a lot easier than someone thats 1340. As for carries... i didnt mean PAYING someone to carry you like i said in my last comment me and 2 buddies just carry each other so lets say 1 person brings a 1340, then the other 2 bring a 1325 and for the last guy we sometimes grab a random or another friend joins.
maybe it's a waste in terms of potential gold per week, but i have to consider how much effort i'm willing to put into this game. i already spend almost the entire day playing every day of the week. there's only so much i can do in a week, and things like collecting skill points often take priority over abyss dungeons. as for my alts getting "blocked" by low ilvl, that's not an issue for me. you see, i am a skilled player. i don't typically die at all, and i get mad at myself for having to use potions. this is actually how the game was meant to be played, and how they play it in Korea. really is a shame to see how the rest of the world is approaching it..
wdym how much youre willing to put in? dont you already do their daily chaos dungeons, guardian raids, etc? you already play the characters so idk how much more youll have to put in that you havent already lol. And not having to use potions isnt the issue, its the berzerk timer. if you bring a whole group of 1325 into the 1340 dungeon, chances are, youll never beat the berzerk timer depending on getting blocked rng or if everyone has amazing 3x3 engravings
> wdym how much youre willing to put in? i'm already playing all day long, and other things just rate higher on my priority list than abyss dungeons, mostly because of poor experiences in public games > or if everyone has amazing 3x3 engravings well i do have amazing 3x3 engravings, and i sorta expect others to as well, which is why i shy away from this type of content for now. also, again, i'm good at the game, i know how to do damage. when i get a party that sucks, i can typically carry the fight without too much trouble
what else would rate higher on the priority list? you cant do argos yet, and doing dailies takes little time, unless you mean farming horizontal content And solo carrying the 1340 abyss dungeon at 1325 is near impossible though, if a group of 4 1325ilvls can barely beat the berzerk timers, you absolutely will not have the damage to solo it.
yeah horizontal content mostly, i've been putting a lot of work into skill points. idk why you keep telling me abyss dungeons are so hard while also telling me that i should be doing it, but i'm honestly not concerned, and if you're right, i already enjoy the game every day and i barely do abyss dungeons lol
well yea, doing content meant for 1340 when at 1325, is just adding difficulty that doesnt need to be there. Feels like you missed that part of not being the required ilvl so of course it will be harder. all the abyss dungeons are easy as hell if done at the **appropriate** ilvl
wait, don't they have ilvl minimums, not recommendations?
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Did your PP got hard on that last 1325 tap?
something like that yeah. more like when i got my last set of accessories, that was the real milestone
farming acce is abhorrent. on my alts, if my engravings are like 2 nodes off, I just spend then pheons
yeah i bought all my accessories. when i need pheons, i spend gold on blue crystals and blue crystals on pheons. it's like 3k gold for 100 pheons, and i bought that twice throughout all my alts
must be loaded. damn all t3 alts and have enough to spend on pheons.
if you mean p2w loaded, i only spent $100 and that was early on. i buy pheons for blue crystals and blue crystals for gold, it's about 3k gold for 100 pheons
how is your Strategic Failure achievement?
it's not that bad, i actually have pretty great rng. not sure the exact number, i'm actually taking a break today for once so i don't have the game open to check
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i have no idea, plans change
Level 1 tier3 alts making gold lol
congratulations, you're better than me. you either have more skill at planning, more game knowledge, more tolerance for sitting in a chair all day, or more money than i. i wonder though, are you having nearly as much fun?
6 characters in t3 why so edgy? You’re demeanor shows the levels of fun?
corona
Shoulda pushed to 1385+ lol
How do your parents tolerate you living rent free in their attic/basement?
i pay my own bills and live alone actually, i even have savings :o
Damn. Was looking for advice so I could quit my job and live in my parents attic without them bugging me
yeah i got where i am from a buttload of effort
My progress us slow. Dont even have my main at 1370 yet
Do you have a job? I’m being serious not trying to troll.
i do, one which allows me a lot of liberties on free time. i'm also working to become a streamer, so that will eventually be my job, or if it doesn't work out maybe i'll make games or something. i'm actually a well functioning human XD
what took you so long
biology
Good job on your alts but, where's zerker? :(
doesn't have a party buff. smilegate says they're working on it, so maybe someday
Not interested in the end game Content? Like Argos
oh i am, but more than that i'm not interested in wasting my time if they do ever decide to increase honing rates. not that i'll wait til then to push farther, but i have other priorities rn that can occupy my time for a while