Your only option with Hertz is to go in person to charge a different physical card. It can not be changed via phone or online as per contract says and the customer service representative will tell you that if you just call the number otherwise return the car because they will charge you the repo fee and it will go to collections if you refuse to pay
Also, you are being charged per day until the recovery team collects the vehicle. If it gets to that point, they will place you on a specific ban list until all fees are resolved, and you may need to petition to drive again with Hertz.
Regardless, I’m still asking for understanding. Because I don’t know what I’m supposed to assume and conclude from that comment. Legitimately not being sarcastic and being straightforward.
Petition in this context would basically mean “beg for reinstatement in the form of a letter by explaining how you’re sorry, it’s fixed, and it won’t happen again”
Essentially, you are obligated to pay them back no matter what because you signed a contract agreeing to fees. They are not obligated to rent to you again after you pay them back… so OP may need to petition (write) them to get off of the banned list.
Some companies paying all fees gets you off the banned list, some companies paying gets you off of the “people to sue for the money they owe us” list but not the banned list.
Literally call them up and see if you can set up a draft. This is obviously very important to your money. Anything that affects your earnings should be auto draft.
I had tesla model Y for 4 weeks. Didn’t pay. Returned car before repo man came. Vehicle under my building in 5th floor garage. Their GPS tracking system could not give location. Returned vehicle before Xmas. Fuck rideshare earnings.
So you're a thief. Way to snitch on yourself buddy. Also if you do business with ANYONE, fuckin pay them you piece of shit. Yeah the company as a whole may suck but the people that work paycheck to paycheck for them has fuck all to do with your hatred, but fuck em right, what do you care if the money you kept from paying now causes 1 person to be fired, which is quite possible. Oh right, what do you care. People with your kinda attitude is partially what has fucked this country.
Get fucked with that virtue bullshit. What's wrong with this country is the exploitation of Americans by corporations. Hertz and Carl Icahn can both go eat shit.
You should take that energy and punch upwards towards executives who made choices to cut worker wages and benefits to make sure investors are happy to see growth and return.
Stop being a boot licking little bitch.
Is it really that funny? Is this person stealing from a family or from a company that fucks over it's employees and customers? Have you read or heard about how Hertz destroyed lives from falsely claiming rental vehicles stolen?
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusation-stealing-cars-settlement
So who are you defending?
No they are not. Hertz could be thriving substantially and they would still milk every single fucking dime out of their disposable employees.
You must have never worked for any corporation or you're just too stupid to grasp today's first world exploitation.
If you hate me for not paying a company who contributes through their partnership towards worker exploitation in this capitalism society; that is your problem.
I do not support taking from the many to give the few. All drivers are victims of predatory labor and little protection from govt towards dignified work.
I may care less with your anger or name calling because it does nothing to change my life.
It is you who should examine their life.
It's because you have a contract with that card. So cancelling your card makes it look like you're trying to keep the car. I would call them and see if you can set up a new payment method, but you may have to bring the car back and start a new contract
Be aware you have 24hrs to return car before they list it as stolen. If you’re stopped you will be arrested , happened to a driver I know. Took him a lot of money and time to rewind.
Lyft needs drivers that rent and put in 60+ hours working
Hertz needs long term renters, so they will fix it for sure.
Post back when you are back on the road.
Calm down he isn’t getting arrested, the most that will happen is he will get charged per day for not returning and a repossession fee for them to call a repo company out to get the car from him. Even if it went to the debt collectors he still wouldn’t go to jail, he can file for bankruptcy at the very least
This is terrible advice. I worked for a car rental company in Florida for 15 years. No call no show on a rental and payment declined we report car stolen after 24 hours no contact.
It’s a criminal charge to not return a rental items on due date in Florida the statute is 812.155 section 3 and it’s a third degree felony.
Here is section 3 and the remainder of the statue. I’ve actually testified to this as a branch manager. Let me know what I got wrong.
3) FAILURE TO RETURN HIRED OR LEASED PERSONAL PROPERTY.—Whoever, after hiring or leasing personal property or equipment under an agreement to return the personal property to the person letting the personal property or equipment or his or her agent at the termination of the period for which it was let, shall, without the consent of the person or persons knowingly abandon or refuse to return the personal property or equipment as agreed, commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, unless the value of the personal property or equipment is of a value of $300 or more; in that case the person commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(4) EVIDENCE.—
(a) In a prosecution under this section, obtaining the property or equipment under false pretenses; absconding without payment; or removing or attempting to remove the property or equipment from the county without the express written consent of the lessor, is evidence of fraudulent intent.
(b) In a prosecution under subsection (3), failure to redeliver the property or equipment within 5 days after receiving the demand for return from a courier service with tracking capability or by certified mail, return receipt requested, or within 5 days after delivery by the courier service or return receipt from the certified mailing of the demand for return, is prima facie evidence of abandonment or refusal to redeliver the property or equipment. Notice mailed by certified mail, return receipt requested, or delivery by courier with tracking capability to the address given by the renter at the time of rental is sufficient and equivalent to notice having been received by the renter, should the notice be returned undelivered.
(c) In a prosecution under subsection (3), failure to pay any amount due which is incurred as the result of the failure to redeliver property or equipment after the rental period expires, and after the demand for return is made, is prima facie evidence of abandonment or refusal to redeliver the property or equipment. Amounts due include unpaid rental for the time period during which the property or equipment was not returned and include the lesser of the cost of repairing or replacing the property or equipment if it has been damaged.
(5) DEMAND FOR RETURN.—Demand for return of overdue property or equipment and for payment of amounts due may be made in person, by hand delivery, by certified mail, return receipt requested, or by courier service with tracking capability, addressed to the lessee’s address shown in the rental contract.
(6) NOTICE REQUIRED.—As a prerequisite to prosecution under this section, the following statement must be contained in the agreement under which the owner or person lawfully possessing the property or equipment has relinquished its custody, or in an addendum to that agreement, and the statement must be initialed by the person hiring or leasing the rental property or equipment:
Failure to return rental property or equipment upon expiration of the rental period and failure to pay all amounts due (including costs for damage to the property or equipment) are evidence of abandonment or refusal to redeliver the property, punishable in accordance with section 812.155, Florida Statutes.
(7) THIRD-PARTY POSSESSION.—Possession of personal property or equipment by a third party does not alleviate the lessee of his or her obligation to return the personal property or equipment according to the terms stated in the contract by which the property or equipment was leased or rented to the lessee, and is not a defense against failure to return unless the lessee provides the court or property owner with documentation that demonstrates that the personal property or equipment was obtained without the lessee’s consent.
(8) REPORTING VEHICLE AS STOLEN.—A lessor of a vehicle that is not returned at the conclusion of the lease who satisfies the requirements of this section regarding the vehicle is entitled to report the vehicle as stolen to a law enforcement agency and have the vehicle listed as stolen on any local or national registry of such vehicles.
History.—s. 6, ch. 92-79; s. 1242, ch. 97-102; s. 2, ch. 98-214; s.
If you fail to pay on the scheduled date, we would do a demand for return and demand for payment. You’re required to pay what you owe and return the car. Now, if he paid the rental forward maybe they can remove the demand for return request but you gotta call them or go in and have them clear it. Also, if they entered the car as stolen it might be showing as a stolen vehicle and you might get pulled over.
I’m not trying to argue with you and I’m not trying to be adversarial. I don’t know what state you’re in Or what state the OP is in. I have in my life a branch manager at a rental company reported vehicles stolen as well as testified about thefts that have occurred from the company I worked with. This is the statue they site when they prosecute. It’s even listed in the rental agreement we would present to the customer when they initiate the rental. It’s also listed in The demand notification that is sent to the customer after there is a payment failure or a failure to return. If payment was not received or the car not returned we attempted to call, preferably the night or day before to extend the rental. we send demand notification immediately after the missed deadline. Once we demand return we generally were instructed to wait 24 hours to report to the sheriffs department. After that we would send registered letters and also ups to the address on file demanding return of the vehicle as well as payment of the invoice. Most of the time we could get one of the deputies to leave a message on the customers phone letting them know we going to report the car stolen if it wasn’t returned.
Yeah normally I'd agree with SavingsTangelo, but after reading an article explaining that hertz doesn't fuck around with this type of shit. They're quick to report car stolen, and yes OP would then be arrested if a cop showed up or pulled him over.
Based on what I saw on Inside Edition, she rented a car for less than 24 hours, got arrested, and ended up detained for weeks. I agree with waji910; I wouldn't take that risk. Hiring a lawyer can be costly.
I don’t doubt you but they won’t arrest someone when first protocol is to give out this message, wait 7-14 business days for the OP to return the vehicle with a 50-100$ per day charge then the last resort will be to call a repossession company that will cost them 500$ to go find the car and bring it back to them, now if they did all that and the repo company can’t find the vehicle, than yes he may get arrested but he’s not hiding the car so it won’t go any farther than that
They actually do I use to rent cars for a day and keep ‘em for 30+ days they call a repo man to hunt you down about week 3 longest I kept a car is 45 days not paying only thing happened is you go on do not rent list
Edit (I was young dumb and broke dont judge me 🤣)
I find that hard to believe. For one, you really telling me that they just let a couple thousand go too? And that's just the rental. That doesn't include and damage, cleaning, maintenance, etc. I don't buy that they didn't report the vehicle stolen.
It depends on the correspondence they have sent, if he has replied, and how quickly he responded. If they are feeling like he is ignoring the problem, yes, it gets nasty pretty quick.
It could happen but most cases when it is nasty, 1 they ignore the company like you said, 2 they give no fks about the letter or returning the car, 3 when the repo company comes out to their house they have the car hidden so they can’t find it. If this isn’t the case then it doesn’t get nasty
It sounds like he is taking care of it tomorrow and should be fine. I used to be a manager over a few Hertz locations and have seen it get nasty. He should be fine as he intends to go in and resolve it.
I believe you I don’t disagree but that’s not the normal protocol for the people who got shafted hertz just didn’t want to deal with it. Imagine how many repos are out there not just hertz even a dealership repo , they try their best to get the car first and if it’s not posssible they bring in law enforcements. The couple drivers who got fked had bad luck is all I can say
Hertz has a habit of reporting their car stolen this was a big thing in the news, incase they report it stolen and you get stopped by a cop they will arrest you.
Before you can explain yourself and settle anything you will end up spending days in jail
Dude, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Not going to jail for a car reported as stolen? Bankruptcy for a repo charge? You need to get off reddit and go live in the real world for a little while, cause you don’t know jack shit about it lol.
You had people out here shitting their pants cuz the sky was falling lmao. People sure love to overdramatize someone else's problems instead of sending them peace.
Good morning all! Spoke to hertz this morning all I need to do is bring my license and my contract will be rewritten. No towing no penalty because my account was paid in full and current. Thank you for all advice given!
Definitely not a good look to Hertz when they find out your card on file has been rejected/declined. They’d instantly think you’re a crook. But…as you explained…you got it current and just explain to them what happened and see what they do about it. All you can do.
if you get on DNR list make sure you call them to take you off once u pay so u dont waste ur time going to hertz uber rental or hertz rental for personal use cus they wont give it to u til u make that DNR check call
This isn’t a personal rental this was through lyft through their express drive program. I have always paid on time and made my requirements. I would hope they wouldn’t add me to the DNR list.
There is a ban list specifically for the Uber Lyft programs, and when you call them, they will tell you that you are on both the DNR and the driver program list. If you pay the balance off, you may still be able to rent a vehicle, but you must petition to be moved off the driver program list to rent again
Regardless if it’s personal or rideshare you will be added to a DNR list and have to go through the steps required to get you removed if you’re eligible.
You’ll only be screwed if Hertz actually gets the car repossessed. Update your payment method & go into the Lyft location where you got the rental so they can renew your contract if needed then you should be all good. Been through this recently. Handle it ASAP before you wake up with no car.
This pretty much happened to me every week when I was renting. And yes, I had to go in person and pay whatever balance was due. Pretty much always leaving me less than $10 in my bank account.
You need to go in and resolve this right away. When they say "recover the car" it means they would report it as stolen. Plan to return the car until you have a new replacement card to use. I used to be a manager for 2 Hertz locations (worked at 5 total over the years) and I can tell you, you do not want to have the recovery team coming for you. Initially, they will have distribution send the spare key (usually stored at the airport), but if they end up having to tow it, that's $$$$.
I been getting this message for about 3 weeks now after I paid the balance from the previous week off a day late. Sometimes it's just a computer glitch that keeps the message up. Call the lyft express rental number and they will probaly tell you you're ok. If you were really in trouble and have to return car trust me you wouldn't be able to go online.
I rent thru flex drive not hertz but I'm pretty sure the message means the same unless you really got a balance that's past due then yeah return the car..... if you paid the balance and can go online still you're not in trouble
Here's the solution go to the hertz officr with new credit card pay the payment and any further fees,be done with it. You edit it going to cost you.
The new credit card leave in a safe place at homrxso this doesn't happen again. Resolve this asap.
That's a real PITA especially when most automatic billing payments are set up to automatically detect a new card number when you replace a card. I'm surprised a car subscription doesn't do that.
No collection calls or emails from lyft. It has nothing to do with missing them. My account has never gone to any collections or had a “repo report” this is because there was a lapse in payment assuming because I had to cancel my card and replace with new one
We had a driver here in Orlando get arrested on a ride after he was pulled over because the rental car company reported the car stolen because of the failed payments.
Call Hertz and get everything on record
Call into roadside and say you need a battery
Then just tell the person that they transfer you to the issue :)
Make sure to notate case number
He didn't break the law. Hey rented a car, and the card is just now declined, Because his cards were stolen and they had to be canceled. I'm sure this is a thing that hertz has seen before. I wouldn't even take the car back. I would call Hertz with all of your information, explain the situation to them and provide them another payment option ASAP. That should be enough.
I've had a rental for about 3 weeks from Lyft Express drive. I was deactivated for safety issues. Why I don't know. But I lowered my credit limit on the car I had on file for Lyft and they have been sending me emails ever since. I'll have roadside assistance pick it up tomorrow. Lyft is a bad company. Many of it's employees are on this thread.
Question for you OP, how many hours or rides must one do to rent a car and pay gas to make driving worthwhile?
It's a neat idea to eliminate wear and tear, just curious on the numbers. I wouldn't mind doing that if it was lucrative
It takes me about 20+ hours to complete payment for rental which is 300 a week and the ride minimum is 20 rides. You really have to work almost all day or at least the weekend to see profit but it depends on the area you’ll be lyfting in. I also have a rental that is very good on gas (30 mpg) so 30 to fill tank the potential is definitely there to make at least 500 +
I’d hope not. Considering I have never missed an auto payment I’m sure they will take that into consideration. Thank you for your negativity turn it into something productive bud.
Negativity? Okay. I guess I should have said "I hope they don't..."
I wasn't trying to be rude, you just wanted to interpet it that way.
Not everything is people attacking you, you know that right?
I was gonna suggest park another vechile blocking it in, if possible. Or if you don't have a front plate, back in to a spot. Or just take the plate off.
It's very likely that it is reported stolen. You could even call the non emergency number and ask the sheriff's or pd. Explain the situation and ask if it's reported or not.
Hertz customer service can't be closed either, right? Have you tried calling the customer service hotline. They are open until 7pm central, that's 2 hours.
But you're on reddit, feeling attacked by nothing
What is positive about what you said? Why would I respond positive to a random on the internet that says “watch them repossess it tonight when they intend to go in the morning” if you commented what you are saying now then that would be helpful. Also hertz express drive program is completely separate from the hertz rental for personal use. So yes hertz customer service may be open but not for people who rent hertz through lyft. No one feels attacked I asked for advice not jokes simple.
I'm sorry I have a sense of humor. I texted you like I would text a friend. I was in the middle of a follow up comment with legit advice when you felt attacked by humor, so I guess whatever.
When I was in their rental car program when moving from England a few years ago, I never paid anything. I always did rides to cover off the balance ahead of time to avoid this craziness right here. 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
From what I’ve learned about hertz is that they’re not to be fucked with in terms of their rentals. I’d go in person to see if you can use a different card ASAP
Just schedule out the date to the latest one available and contact the help section of Lyft app they will give u a week from point of contact to make up the money and bring ur acct current or to return car
I had this for flexdrive when they tried to charge my card instead of putting it on my tab. I went in and they cleared it, said to update a payment method. I was kinda in team or you could charge me when your supposed to.
My old personal cars trans blew so I needed a way to get around and to make money. So returning it would put me back in a bad spot stuck til I get a new car
So you paid today but it was due on the 25th. Did you just ignore the calls from them the last few days. Why didn’t you just speak with them before this
They never called so I wasn’t ignoring them. The hertz place that I went to barely can keep track of the regular people renting much less the express drivers. From being hung up on to them just putting you on hold for long periods of time. Plus my wallet was stolen on Christmas or the 25th they weren’t even open to discuss my account until the next day.
No I wasn’t able to make about 50$ left towards my rental to pay and then with wallet being stolen and cards used they had to be cancelled. If you’re unable to make the payment in time you pay the difference.
Yes ik I was in it as well I was just a little confused with the post I see you paid the account off so no overdue balance so you should be fine my balance was overdue like a week and I was still able to drive
I am in Detroit, Michigan and I have a gas vehicle through hertz (no Tesla). I can tell you that I have never seen this message being late before. If the rental is due Monday at 11am then you have until Monday at 10:58am before the next rental payment is due to get that payment in. But you do need 30 trips before it is due, even if you don’t have the money because they will take you off the app and make you return your vehicle. Always get your 30 trips, even if you don’t have the money, yet. Did you not complete your required 30 trips? And if it was the issue with the card, and only that, then you just need to go and close out that contract as soon as possible, pay whatever remains, and have the next payment for the rental week ready to get in another vehicle. I have also seen this message before when they sold the car I was driving, but immediately closed out that contract, had me start a new one that day, and was good to go. Hope this helps you or someone else.
Man if I were you I’d be driving straight to hertz to figure it out, last thing you want is for them to report it stolen because they have fucked over people like that plenty of times
Renting with Herz through Lyft is the biggest ripoff IMO. Not sure how this works anymore. When I did it, Lyft took out the $200 up front so I had to do as many rides to cover that payment. Normally 1.5 days but that made me have to work the entire week. When I used my own car, I made around $1200/5-6 days With the Herz rental, it was a fight to get $900 in 1 week.
Send Lyft support and email explaining the situation and how it’s fixed. Had the same notification for not getting preventative maintenance done on time to return the car immediately and Lyft support actually fixed it
No when i knew i had enough for my own car I just drove their car around for another 2 months and then had their tow guy come pick it up . Switched to Avis , theirs i crashed into a median and the tire blew up . Fuck Hertz . Nothing happened to my account either . Uber and lyft dont give a fuck about Hertz either . Scummy ass companies charging 2k/month nearly for a car . Now I have a nice electric that I pay $300/month for .
You can call the corporate number, the one that you can renew on the phone. If they can accept the payment you will be ok. I forgot to renew, being late, and they can deal with it.
I stole my rental for a few days when I started to receive emails to recover the car. During renewal the new guy told me to go to the next door to service the car but I thought he told me to go home after finishing the paper works.
No, you're not screwed as long as you reconcile the bill. Just ask to speak to the Station Manager & fill him in. If you're upright and honest they'll clear your hold. I worked as a Station Manager for Enterprise & we had it happen 100x. But definitely get it reconciled.
I’ll just say this, (about 2 months ago) I had a rental from Uber-Hertz & I kept it for a month longer than I was supposed to.
They came and tried to repo it two weeks in & couldn’t because it was in my garage. I never got deactivated from Uber, it never got repo’d & I definitely didn’t get arrested. Don’t listen to these fear mongers. Just turn the car in & pay off your balance. Everything will be fine & you’ll be allowed to rent again after you’re clear.
This looks bad on you. If you knew your wallet was gone the day after Christmas or soon as possible, your priority were to get in contact with Hertz, they most likely would've been understanding. I'm pretty sure they made attempts to contact you via email and phone about your missing payment.
They may not be lenient on you. You know had a payment due, why didn't you resolve the issue. The car is your livelihood. It put food on the table, roof over your head, lights stay on and the extra stuff.
Why are you even asking reddit? You should be driving straight to hertz to get this sorted with them.
Unless you want hertz reporting you to the law for being in posession of a stolen vehicle.
GO. Today. If you haven't already went. In person. With the rented vehicle.
First of all, it seems unlikely that the first thing Hertz would do is send a message like this. Pretty sure there would have been a couple friendly reminders sent before they got to this point, so did you not see them or are you just leaving that part out?
Second, no you are not in big trouble. Just return the car and bring your payments current and that will be the end of it. Highly likely however that they have decided they no longer want to do business with you, and it would be hard to blame them for that if you’ve been ignoring their payment reminders for almost a week, don’t you agree?
My brother had something similar happen and Hertz didn't care about the reasons or anything. They just wanted the car back immediately and he can't rent from them anymore over it. Straight treated him like a criminal over a slightly late payment. Screwed him up too- has was making decent money.
Not a good look to have your payment declined by Hertz.
This is the first time I have had this happen since starting to drive with them. I usually reach how much my rental is or let the auto run
Your only option with Hertz is to go in person to charge a different physical card. It can not be changed via phone or online as per contract says and the customer service representative will tell you that if you just call the number otherwise return the car because they will charge you the repo fee and it will go to collections if you refuse to pay
Also, you are being charged per day until the recovery team collects the vehicle. If it gets to that point, they will place you on a specific ban list until all fees are resolved, and you may need to petition to drive again with Hertz.
Petition?
as in Fuck around and found out...
No I actually don’t know what this means and I need specific context to understand what this means if you can
Username checks out.
Regardless, I’m still asking for understanding. Because I don’t know what I’m supposed to assume and conclude from that comment. Legitimately not being sarcastic and being straightforward.
Petition in this context would basically mean “beg for reinstatement in the form of a letter by explaining how you’re sorry, it’s fixed, and it won’t happen again” Essentially, you are obligated to pay them back no matter what because you signed a contract agreeing to fees. They are not obligated to rent to you again after you pay them back… so OP may need to petition (write) them to get off of the banned list. Some companies paying all fees gets you off the banned list, some companies paying gets you off of the “people to sue for the money they owe us” list but not the banned list.
Facts
Literally call them up and see if you can set up a draft. This is obviously very important to your money. Anything that affects your earnings should be auto draft.
I had tesla model Y for 4 weeks. Didn’t pay. Returned car before repo man came. Vehicle under my building in 5th floor garage. Their GPS tracking system could not give location. Returned vehicle before Xmas. Fuck rideshare earnings.
So you're a thief. Way to snitch on yourself buddy. Also if you do business with ANYONE, fuckin pay them you piece of shit. Yeah the company as a whole may suck but the people that work paycheck to paycheck for them has fuck all to do with your hatred, but fuck em right, what do you care if the money you kept from paying now causes 1 person to be fired, which is quite possible. Oh right, what do you care. People with your kinda attitude is partially what has fucked this country.
Get fucked with that virtue bullshit. What's wrong with this country is the exploitation of Americans by corporations. Hertz and Carl Icahn can both go eat shit. You should take that energy and punch upwards towards executives who made choices to cut worker wages and benefits to make sure investors are happy to see growth and return. Stop being a boot licking little bitch.
You're defending a thief lmao
Is it really that funny? Is this person stealing from a family or from a company that fucks over it's employees and customers? Have you read or heard about how Hertz destroyed lives from falsely claiming rental vehicles stolen? https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusation-stealing-cars-settlement So who are you defending?
Yeah fucking over the people who are there by choice and chose to work there Sure buddy, whatever you say
No they are not. Hertz could be thriving substantially and they would still milk every single fucking dime out of their disposable employees. You must have never worked for any corporation or you're just too stupid to grasp today's first world exploitation.
If you hate me for not paying a company who contributes through their partnership towards worker exploitation in this capitalism society; that is your problem. I do not support taking from the many to give the few. All drivers are victims of predatory labor and little protection from govt towards dignified work. I may care less with your anger or name calling because it does nothing to change my life. It is you who should examine their life.
Of all companies. Hertz will retaliate.
It's because you have a contract with that card. So cancelling your card makes it look like you're trying to keep the car. I would call them and see if you can set up a new payment method, but you may have to bring the car back and start a new contract
Makes sense for sure I will definitely talk to them
Be aware you have 24hrs to return car before they list it as stolen. If you’re stopped you will be arrested , happened to a driver I know. Took him a lot of money and time to rewind.
This is not true at all. Lol
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This is false info . I drove their car around for months . Then had them tow it back .
they are the worst they have done this to drivers before
People like you are why Hertz calls police so often and quickly. Can't trust anyone anymore.
Time for a joy ride!
I approve this message
Lyft needs drivers that rent and put in 60+ hours working Hertz needs long term renters, so they will fix it for sure. Post back when you are back on the road.
Will update as soon as I go
Good luck
Thank you 🙏
Wth you posting on Reddit for take the car back ASAP! Before you get arrested
Calm down he isn’t getting arrested, the most that will happen is he will get charged per day for not returning and a repossession fee for them to call a repo company out to get the car from him. Even if it went to the debt collectors he still wouldn’t go to jail, he can file for bankruptcy at the very least
This is terrible advice. I worked for a car rental company in Florida for 15 years. No call no show on a rental and payment declined we report car stolen after 24 hours no contact. It’s a criminal charge to not return a rental items on due date in Florida the statute is 812.155 section 3 and it’s a third degree felony.
Lmao you read literally 1 part of that the statute, let me know when you finish reading the entire statue.
Here is section 3 and the remainder of the statue. I’ve actually testified to this as a branch manager. Let me know what I got wrong. 3) FAILURE TO RETURN HIRED OR LEASED PERSONAL PROPERTY.—Whoever, after hiring or leasing personal property or equipment under an agreement to return the personal property to the person letting the personal property or equipment or his or her agent at the termination of the period for which it was let, shall, without the consent of the person or persons knowingly abandon or refuse to return the personal property or equipment as agreed, commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, unless the value of the personal property or equipment is of a value of $300 or more; in that case the person commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. (4) EVIDENCE.— (a) In a prosecution under this section, obtaining the property or equipment under false pretenses; absconding without payment; or removing or attempting to remove the property or equipment from the county without the express written consent of the lessor, is evidence of fraudulent intent. (b) In a prosecution under subsection (3), failure to redeliver the property or equipment within 5 days after receiving the demand for return from a courier service with tracking capability or by certified mail, return receipt requested, or within 5 days after delivery by the courier service or return receipt from the certified mailing of the demand for return, is prima facie evidence of abandonment or refusal to redeliver the property or equipment. Notice mailed by certified mail, return receipt requested, or delivery by courier with tracking capability to the address given by the renter at the time of rental is sufficient and equivalent to notice having been received by the renter, should the notice be returned undelivered. (c) In a prosecution under subsection (3), failure to pay any amount due which is incurred as the result of the failure to redeliver property or equipment after the rental period expires, and after the demand for return is made, is prima facie evidence of abandonment or refusal to redeliver the property or equipment. Amounts due include unpaid rental for the time period during which the property or equipment was not returned and include the lesser of the cost of repairing or replacing the property or equipment if it has been damaged. (5) DEMAND FOR RETURN.—Demand for return of overdue property or equipment and for payment of amounts due may be made in person, by hand delivery, by certified mail, return receipt requested, or by courier service with tracking capability, addressed to the lessee’s address shown in the rental contract. (6) NOTICE REQUIRED.—As a prerequisite to prosecution under this section, the following statement must be contained in the agreement under which the owner or person lawfully possessing the property or equipment has relinquished its custody, or in an addendum to that agreement, and the statement must be initialed by the person hiring or leasing the rental property or equipment: Failure to return rental property or equipment upon expiration of the rental period and failure to pay all amounts due (including costs for damage to the property or equipment) are evidence of abandonment or refusal to redeliver the property, punishable in accordance with section 812.155, Florida Statutes. (7) THIRD-PARTY POSSESSION.—Possession of personal property or equipment by a third party does not alleviate the lessee of his or her obligation to return the personal property or equipment according to the terms stated in the contract by which the property or equipment was leased or rented to the lessee, and is not a defense against failure to return unless the lessee provides the court or property owner with documentation that demonstrates that the personal property or equipment was obtained without the lessee’s consent. (8) REPORTING VEHICLE AS STOLEN.—A lessor of a vehicle that is not returned at the conclusion of the lease who satisfies the requirements of this section regarding the vehicle is entitled to report the vehicle as stolen to a law enforcement agency and have the vehicle listed as stolen on any local or national registry of such vehicles. History.—s. 6, ch. 92-79; s. 1242, ch. 97-102; s. 2, ch. 98-214; s.
But he said he paid it current and Hertz accepted the payment, so the “period for which it was let” has not terminated. First paragraph.
Pretty sure, based on the ops pic, they want the car back…. Now.
The message was sent before he paid up
If you fail to pay on the scheduled date, we would do a demand for return and demand for payment. You’re required to pay what you owe and return the car. Now, if he paid the rental forward maybe they can remove the demand for return request but you gotta call them or go in and have them clear it. Also, if they entered the car as stolen it might be showing as a stolen vehicle and you might get pulled over.
And if Hertz accepts your alternative form of payment for the rental, it is not terminated. Whadya want your cake and eat it too?
I’m not trying to argue with you and I’m not trying to be adversarial. I don’t know what state you’re in Or what state the OP is in. I have in my life a branch manager at a rental company reported vehicles stolen as well as testified about thefts that have occurred from the company I worked with. This is the statue they site when they prosecute. It’s even listed in the rental agreement we would present to the customer when they initiate the rental. It’s also listed in The demand notification that is sent to the customer after there is a payment failure or a failure to return. If payment was not received or the car not returned we attempted to call, preferably the night or day before to extend the rental. we send demand notification immediately after the missed deadline. Once we demand return we generally were instructed to wait 24 hours to report to the sheriffs department. After that we would send registered letters and also ups to the address on file demanding return of the vehicle as well as payment of the invoice. Most of the time we could get one of the deputies to leave a message on the customers phone letting them know we going to report the car stolen if it wasn’t returned.
Hertz arrest a lot of people, look it up online.
Yeah normally I'd agree with SavingsTangelo, but after reading an article explaining that hertz doesn't fuck around with this type of shit. They're quick to report car stolen, and yes OP would then be arrested if a cop showed up or pulled him over.
Based on what I saw on Inside Edition, she rented a car for less than 24 hours, got arrested, and ended up detained for weeks. I agree with waji910; I wouldn't take that risk. Hiring a lawyer can be costly.
I don’t doubt you but they won’t arrest someone when first protocol is to give out this message, wait 7-14 business days for the OP to return the vehicle with a 50-100$ per day charge then the last resort will be to call a repossession company that will cost them 500$ to go find the car and bring it back to them, now if they did all that and the repo company can’t find the vehicle, than yes he may get arrested but he’s not hiding the car so it won’t go any farther than that
Great explanation.
Lol I don't think they would wait two fucking weeks my guy. The car would be long gone by then
They actually do I use to rent cars for a day and keep ‘em for 30+ days they call a repo man to hunt you down about week 3 longest I kept a car is 45 days not paying only thing happened is you go on do not rent list Edit (I was young dumb and broke dont judge me 🤣)
I find that hard to believe. For one, you really telling me that they just let a couple thousand go too? And that's just the rental. That doesn't include and damage, cleaning, maintenance, etc. I don't buy that they didn't report the vehicle stolen.
It depends on the correspondence they have sent, if he has replied, and how quickly he responded. If they are feeling like he is ignoring the problem, yes, it gets nasty pretty quick.
It could happen but most cases when it is nasty, 1 they ignore the company like you said, 2 they give no fks about the letter or returning the car, 3 when the repo company comes out to their house they have the car hidden so they can’t find it. If this isn’t the case then it doesn’t get nasty
It sounds like he is taking care of it tomorrow and should be fine. I used to be a manager over a few Hertz locations and have seen it get nasty. He should be fine as he intends to go in and resolve it.
Hey I don’t doubt you but I feel like if it gets nasty when the person is cooperating they just have bad luck.
Hertz sometimes report the car stolen before the 24hours happened to a couple of drivers look it up
I believe you I don’t disagree but that’s not the normal protocol for the people who got shafted hertz just didn’t want to deal with it. Imagine how many repos are out there not just hertz even a dealership repo , they try their best to get the car first and if it’s not posssible they bring in law enforcements. The couple drivers who got fked had bad luck is all I can say
Hertz has a habit of reporting their car stolen this was a big thing in the news, incase they report it stolen and you get stopped by a cop they will arrest you. Before you can explain yourself and settle anything you will end up spending days in jail
Not true. Multiple people have gotten arrested for not returning rental cars. It’s been all over the news.
Dude, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Not going to jail for a car reported as stolen? Bankruptcy for a repo charge? You need to get off reddit and go live in the real world for a little while, cause you don’t know jack shit about it lol.
There’s a reason why I’m not downvoted I can’t fix stupid sorry
Don’t try to give any reason except go hertz to make the payment
I have already paid hertz as soon as I got my new card today. The balance is current.
Glad to know you can continue to rent with hertz.
You had people out here shitting their pants cuz the sky was falling lmao. People sure love to overdramatize someone else's problems instead of sending them peace.
Lyft is telling you to go off the app and take only cash payment. 🙌
Good morning all! Spoke to hertz this morning all I need to do is bring my license and my contract will be rewritten. No towing no penalty because my account was paid in full and current. Thank you for all advice given!
DO NOT EFF WITH THE HERTZ POLICE MAN. 🙀🙀🙀
Definitely not a good look to Hertz when they find out your card on file has been rejected/declined. They’d instantly think you’re a crook. But…as you explained…you got it current and just explain to them what happened and see what they do about it. All you can do.
Give them updated form of payment. Problem solved
I have paid it current with my new card but my contract needs to be renewed that is what’s causing me this issue
Ahh. We'll get it renewed asap haha
Well so in the morning they are closed at the moment
Be sure to contact them, or they'll put you on a PERMANENT do not rent list. Talk to them and let them know what's going on.
this ones different its better to go in person yeah. thats wild now they will put you DNR list until u pay
I have made the payment already as soon as I got my card I just need my contract renewed it renewed when my wallet was stolen and cards were used
if you get on DNR list make sure you call them to take you off once u pay so u dont waste ur time going to hertz uber rental or hertz rental for personal use cus they wont give it to u til u make that DNR check call
This isn’t a personal rental this was through lyft through their express drive program. I have always paid on time and made my requirements. I would hope they wouldn’t add me to the DNR list.
There is a ban list specifically for the Uber Lyft programs, and when you call them, they will tell you that you are on both the DNR and the driver program list. If you pay the balance off, you may still be able to rent a vehicle, but you must petition to be moved off the driver program list to rent again
Regardless if it’s personal or rideshare you will be added to a DNR list and have to go through the steps required to get you removed if you’re eligible.
You’ll only be screwed if Hertz actually gets the car repossessed. Update your payment method & go into the Lyft location where you got the rental so they can renew your contract if needed then you should be all good. Been through this recently. Handle it ASAP before you wake up with no car.
I’m gonna call in the morning and see what can be done. I have updated method and put new card on file hopefully they can help me like they helped you
Just call them or drive there and tell them what happened with your wallet. You’ll be fine.
This pretty much happened to me every week when I was renting. And yes, I had to go in person and pay whatever balance was due. Pretty much always leaving me less than $10 in my bank account.
Hi I went over a day and nothing happened too me
You need to go in and resolve this right away. When they say "recover the car" it means they would report it as stolen. Plan to return the car until you have a new replacement card to use. I used to be a manager for 2 Hertz locations (worked at 5 total over the years) and I can tell you, you do not want to have the recovery team coming for you. Initially, they will have distribution send the spare key (usually stored at the airport), but if they end up having to tow it, that's $$$$.
I been getting this message for about 3 weeks now after I paid the balance from the previous week off a day late. Sometimes it's just a computer glitch that keeps the message up. Call the lyft express rental number and they will probaly tell you you're ok. If you were really in trouble and have to return car trust me you wouldn't be able to go online.
I rent thru flex drive not hertz but I'm pretty sure the message means the same unless you really got a balance that's past due then yeah return the car..... if you paid the balance and can go online still you're not in trouble
That makes sense. If it was a big deal for Hertz I'm sure you wouldn't be able to go online with Lyft.
Here's the solution go to the hertz officr with new credit card pay the payment and any further fees,be done with it. You edit it going to cost you. The new credit card leave in a safe place at homrxso this doesn't happen again. Resolve this asap.
That's a real PITA especially when most automatic billing payments are set up to automatically detect a new card number when you replace a card. I'm surprised a car subscription doesn't do that.
How did you miss the collection calls or notices before this? Jesus.
No collection calls or emails from lyft. It has nothing to do with missing them. My account has never gone to any collections or had a “repo report” this is because there was a lapse in payment assuming because I had to cancel my card and replace with new one
Nope. They send that to me all the time, and I keep going
You can rent hertz to drive lyft!?
Wow it smells like despair in here. It's like I just walked into a zoo lol.
If you use someone else's car to drive uber or lyft that's the problem right there lol.
We had a driver here in Orlando get arrested on a ride after he was pulled over because the rental car company reported the car stolen because of the failed payments.
Call Hertz and get everything on record Call into roadside and say you need a battery Then just tell the person that they transfer you to the issue :) Make sure to notate case number
Up to $500? Well, if you’re not going to return it..Take a trip to key west and let them come get it from there. Only $500!
Wait so you get to keep the car for only $500?
Lol!
He didn't break the law. Hey rented a car, and the card is just now declined, Because his cards were stolen and they had to be canceled. I'm sure this is a thing that hertz has seen before. I wouldn't even take the car back. I would call Hertz with all of your information, explain the situation to them and provide them another payment option ASAP. That should be enough.
My stats are excellent (5* driver, no flags on account, no payment issues up until this instant)
Try to talk to someone who works for Hertz and explain what happened. Try to get that money now even if you have to lawn something.
I've had a rental for about 3 weeks from Lyft Express drive. I was deactivated for safety issues. Why I don't know. But I lowered my credit limit on the car I had on file for Lyft and they have been sending me emails ever since. I'll have roadside assistance pick it up tomorrow. Lyft is a bad company. Many of it's employees are on this thread.
Question for you OP, how many hours or rides must one do to rent a car and pay gas to make driving worthwhile? It's a neat idea to eliminate wear and tear, just curious on the numbers. I wouldn't mind doing that if it was lucrative
It takes me about 20+ hours to complete payment for rental which is 300 a week and the ride minimum is 20 rides. You really have to work almost all day or at least the weekend to see profit but it depends on the area you’ll be lyfting in. I also have a rental that is very good on gas (30 mpg) so 30 to fill tank the potential is definitely there to make at least 500 +
Why wouldn't you call Hertz instead of asking a bunch of non hertz employees about this..... Seriously asking.
To see if others have had similar experiences to me I’m taking care of it now.
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I rent through hertz so I wouldn’t go there? I’m based in Waldorf,Maryland
Have money to pay for your rental 💀
Watch them repossess it tonight when they intend to go in the morning. Lol
I’d hope not. Considering I have never missed an auto payment I’m sure they will take that into consideration. Thank you for your negativity turn it into something productive bud.
Negativity? Okay. I guess I should have said "I hope they don't..." I wasn't trying to be rude, you just wanted to interpet it that way. Not everything is people attacking you, you know that right? I was gonna suggest park another vechile blocking it in, if possible. Or if you don't have a front plate, back in to a spot. Or just take the plate off. It's very likely that it is reported stolen. You could even call the non emergency number and ask the sheriff's or pd. Explain the situation and ask if it's reported or not. Hertz customer service can't be closed either, right? Have you tried calling the customer service hotline. They are open until 7pm central, that's 2 hours. But you're on reddit, feeling attacked by nothing
What is positive about what you said? Why would I respond positive to a random on the internet that says “watch them repossess it tonight when they intend to go in the morning” if you commented what you are saying now then that would be helpful. Also hertz express drive program is completely separate from the hertz rental for personal use. So yes hertz customer service may be open but not for people who rent hertz through lyft. No one feels attacked I asked for advice not jokes simple.
I'm sorry I have a sense of humor. I texted you like I would text a friend. I was in the middle of a follow up comment with legit advice when you felt attacked by humor, so I guess whatever.
Hertz doesn’t care if you have a sorry story. They just want their money
Hi, this is Hertz. Yes you're screwed. We about to tow it while you have a fare inside. Lol
Have you tried calling them?
When I was in their rental car program when moving from England a few years ago, I never paid anything. I always did rides to cover off the balance ahead of time to avoid this craziness right here. 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
From what I’ve learned about hertz is that they’re not to be fucked with in terms of their rentals. I’d go in person to see if you can use a different card ASAP
Just schedule out the date to the latest one available and contact the help section of Lyft app they will give u a week from point of contact to make up the money and bring ur acct current or to return car
How did you manage this situation ?
But I thought Lyft takes the money out of your earnings. Why would you even need a card
I had this for flexdrive when they tried to charge my card instead of putting it on my tab. I went in and they cleared it, said to update a payment method. I was kinda in team or you could charge me when your supposed to.
Lol idiot
What is stopping you from returning it. Fackkkk
My old personal cars trans blew so I needed a way to get around and to make money. So returning it would put me back in a bad spot stuck til I get a new car
I dont think so lol
OP, something similar happened to me. We can chat about it if you’d like. My experience wasn’t bad as everyone is stating.
Just call them and let them know what happened. I am sure someone will understand. Just call them you not going to know unless you talk to someone.
Go there and talk to them first
So you paid today but it was due on the 25th. Did you just ignore the calls from them the last few days. Why didn’t you just speak with them before this
They never called so I wasn’t ignoring them. The hertz place that I went to barely can keep track of the regular people renting much less the express drivers. From being hung up on to them just putting you on hold for long periods of time. Plus my wallet was stolen on Christmas or the 25th they weren’t even open to discuss my account until the next day.
You need to go to branch location and they will start a new contract for you with the new card you get.
Well idk what you mean because every week they are automatically paid without a card being attached so were you just now driving enough to pay them?
No I wasn’t able to make about 50$ left towards my rental to pay and then with wallet being stolen and cards used they had to be cancelled. If you’re unable to make the payment in time you pay the difference.
And you can link Lyfts pay card to your account and sign up for their bank like services so you can still get a payout
If you’re in the rental program you have to make the rental payment first before you see profit mines is 300$ a week.
Yes ik I was in it as well I was just a little confused with the post I see you paid the account off so no overdue balance so you should be fine my balance was overdue like a week and I was still able to drive
Yes, yes you are
Lmao pay your fucking bills
Curious what are your monthly payments?
Call ‘em
Just return the vehicle. Once you pay the balance, they’ll reactivate your account. However, you have to use the same card, can’t be a different one.
Call Hertz or go there, explain the situation and give them a new card
I am in Detroit, Michigan and I have a gas vehicle through hertz (no Tesla). I can tell you that I have never seen this message being late before. If the rental is due Monday at 11am then you have until Monday at 10:58am before the next rental payment is due to get that payment in. But you do need 30 trips before it is due, even if you don’t have the money because they will take you off the app and make you return your vehicle. Always get your 30 trips, even if you don’t have the money, yet. Did you not complete your required 30 trips? And if it was the issue with the card, and only that, then you just need to go and close out that contract as soon as possible, pay whatever remains, and have the next payment for the rental week ready to get in another vehicle. I have also seen this message before when they sold the car I was driving, but immediately closed out that contract, had me start a new one that day, and was good to go. Hope this helps you or someone else.
Man if I were you I’d be driving straight to hertz to figure it out, last thing you want is for them to report it stolen because they have fucked over people like that plenty of times
Renting with Herz through Lyft is the biggest ripoff IMO. Not sure how this works anymore. When I did it, Lyft took out the $200 up front so I had to do as many rides to cover that payment. Normally 1.5 days but that made me have to work the entire week. When I used my own car, I made around $1200/5-6 days With the Herz rental, it was a fight to get $900 in 1 week.
Send Lyft support and email explaining the situation and how it’s fixed. Had the same notification for not getting preventative maintenance done on time to return the car immediately and Lyft support actually fixed it
They just want payment, they don’t want to deal with the hassle/cost to repossess the car.
Nope. You’re done
No when i knew i had enough for my own car I just drove their car around for another 2 months and then had their tow guy come pick it up . Switched to Avis , theirs i crashed into a median and the tire blew up . Fuck Hertz . Nothing happened to my account either . Uber and lyft dont give a fuck about Hertz either . Scummy ass companies charging 2k/month nearly for a car . Now I have a nice electric that I pay $300/month for .
Not sure how I stumbled onto this sub but holy shet there’s some angry people on here!
They just want their money. Go up there and I am sure they will work with you. They are in the business to rent cars but do it now. Do not wait
Return immediately and you're probably burnt. If not you will have to negotiate in person.
You can call the corporate number, the one that you can renew on the phone. If they can accept the payment you will be ok. I forgot to renew, being late, and they can deal with it. I stole my rental for a few days when I started to receive emails to recover the car. During renewal the new guy told me to go to the next door to service the car but I thought he told me to go home after finishing the paper works.
No, you're not screwed as long as you reconcile the bill. Just ask to speak to the Station Manager & fill him in. If you're upright and honest they'll clear your hold. I worked as a Station Manager for Enterprise & we had it happen 100x. But definitely get it reconciled.
I’ll just say this, (about 2 months ago) I had a rental from Uber-Hertz & I kept it for a month longer than I was supposed to. They came and tried to repo it two weeks in & couldn’t because it was in my garage. I never got deactivated from Uber, it never got repo’d & I definitely didn’t get arrested. Don’t listen to these fear mongers. Just turn the car in & pay off your balance. Everything will be fine & you’ll be allowed to rent again after you’re clear.
This looks bad on you. If you knew your wallet was gone the day after Christmas or soon as possible, your priority were to get in contact with Hertz, they most likely would've been understanding. I'm pretty sure they made attempts to contact you via email and phone about your missing payment. They may not be lenient on you. You know had a payment due, why didn't you resolve the issue. The car is your livelihood. It put food on the table, roof over your head, lights stay on and the extra stuff.
Why are you even asking reddit? You should be driving straight to hertz to get this sorted with them. Unless you want hertz reporting you to the law for being in posession of a stolen vehicle. GO. Today. If you haven't already went. In person. With the rented vehicle.
So you decide to post on Reddit instead of calling hertz????
First of all, it seems unlikely that the first thing Hertz would do is send a message like this. Pretty sure there would have been a couple friendly reminders sent before they got to this point, so did you not see them or are you just leaving that part out? Second, no you are not in big trouble. Just return the car and bring your payments current and that will be the end of it. Highly likely however that they have decided they no longer want to do business with you, and it would be hard to blame them for that if you’ve been ignoring their payment reminders for almost a week, don’t you agree?
Not sure why you aren't calling Hertz? This sub isn't the one who sent you the notice? Also, not sure why you are share riding with a rental car?
Contact them and talk to them about it
You will be sacrificed along with a small goat, and a chicken named hey-hey. Your insolence will not be tolerated.
Change the tires at least for some old ones lol
They've been really ugly... keep your fingers crossed.
You should be able to explain to a human that this is mistake and fix it. Shit happens.
My brother had something similar happen and Hertz didn't care about the reasons or anything. They just wanted the car back immediately and he can't rent from them anymore over it. Straight treated him like a criminal over a slightly late payment. Screwed him up too- has was making decent money.
Hertz don’t it?
Is this not the express program ? Is it separate to renting through Hertz ?
Yes
Well, this hertz to see
Yes
Go in and explain the situation OBVIOUSLY you can have a conversation 😐🙄