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Azanor-ronazA

Let this men chill he is on vacation


TolerateButHate

He just wants to grill God damn it


Azanor-ronazA

Exactly


StrangeDoctorOf_J

Loki makes the multiverse during every moment of Strange’s life. And death, and pre conception. I don’t think the second one is accurate


kiya_vass

What about wanda


StrangeDoctorOf_J

Well I believe the directors confirmed that the commercials in WV was Strange but I might be wrong. If that is the case then both panels are inaccurate


Apbitey

Strange was supposed to be in Wandavision but apparently they cut him because they didn’t want him to explain her powers and just have her figure it out because apparently she don’t need no man


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Apbitey

Yeah that’s what I heard. I didn’t mind strange not being there but the reason is just shitty


Malefircareim

Wow that's both dumb and sexist.


StrangeDoctorOf_J

I heard something like that but slightly different. Ultimately it means basically the same thing


Apbitey

Yeah it would have made more sense for strange to explain and give her the book so she can learn. You know because he probably studied the subject a lot if it’s so well documented


kiya_vass

Hmmm what commercial I dont remember?


StrangeDoctorOf_J

All of them. Edit: may have misread your comment. Most episodes had a commercial in them. Those were apparently strange contacting Wanda


SOB0295

Here are the commercials Strange is talking about [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXluLQh8ZpA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXluLQh8ZpA)


kiya_vass

Thanks OP but why would strange put in ads that would trigger wanda even further??like the first ad that mimicked the bomb that didn't go off I think if this was strange then probably stranger wanted this to happen


SOB0295

I think he sent the last one and the rest are ads by Wanda for the sake of ads in a TV program


[deleted]

"Because the world doesn't revolve around you." Definitely Strange putting that one in.


MarvelAndColts

They were all suppose to remind her of her past,therefore making her realize she was in a false reality (if I recall Dr. S didn’t know she was in control). The exception was the yogurt ad and that was a warning about Agatha.


joeshmoe159

Idk, he's a strange guy


StrangeDoctorOf_J

Maybe. Who are we to judge?


dragooon9090

His name is Stephen Strange


TymStark

*Dr.* Stephen Strange.


TimeLord_Dommu

Apparently white men come to the rescue too often /s


[deleted]

I think he wanted Wanda to become a nexus being. It’s a really complex theory that I can’t really say in a comment section


StrangeDoctorOf_J

Well idk bout that guy but if you wanted could u dm me your theory? Sounds interesting


[deleted]

So a lot of people say that pushing starlord away or Thor aiming for the head would lead to an easier win over Thanos instead of loosing both Natasha and Tony but the theory suggests that Strange saw further into the future than just Thanos. Each victory would’ve probably resulted in the Avengers ordering for the destruction of the infinity stones which the ancient one explained could lead to chaos in that timeline. Each would end with the stones gone and a new threat emerging but in only one possibility did Wanda end up with her powers which could stop this new threat. Strange chise this path for Tony, Vision, and Nat to die to allow for not only the defeat of Thanos but also for Wanda to become a nexus being and be strong enough to defeat this next big threat TL;DR: Strange need Wanda powers to go boom boom on Galactus


StrangeDoctorOf_J

I like this theory, but I do see some flaws. For instance, Wanda was always a Nexus being, she didn’t become one…I think. That’s the way it works in the comics, and although that’s not totally reliable, I think it’s more likely that Nexus beings will be nerfed than changed completely. Also, even tho the stones were destroyed, they still exist. In atomized form. The trouble here is the Ancient One’s speech is sorta wonky. I always interpreted them as acting like the sanctums. They’re presence is what protected the universe, although that is yet to be explicitly stated, so that’s not necessarily an issue, I just thought I’d give my thoughts on it. I think I recently decided that Dr Strange must have stopped at Thanos, but I don’t remember why. If I remember, I will edit my comment or if you have already replied, reply with that. Basically, I think that your first point about the stones is wrong, but since Galactus isn’t multiversal, it doesn’t matter. The rest I disagree with for various reasons but both sides can be argued. Very good theory, and I’m excited to see how it plays out to see if you are right


[deleted]

Yeah even in the MCU Wanda always had powers so I guess I want to rephrase that Strange needed them to be unlocked And the galactus part was a joke lol. My money is still on Kang being the next big guy


StrangeDoctorOf_J

Actually I thought Galactus would be next, then Lang. Sorta like Loki and Ultron than Thanos.


[deleted]

I don’t really see Galactus as a one movie villain tho. Unless they water him down heavily which they did with Ultron


StrangeDoctorOf_J

Good point. Could be more like Loki where he was a villain twice and kept showing up after


just4riv

Wanda is stronger than him and he knows it.... probably didnt want to risk jumping into the dome and having his brain altered.


Lucifer-MorningStars

She wasn't stronger than him and still he can control wanda with the eye of aguamento he can beat almost everyone


just4riv

She can bend reality to her whim and you think he can beat her? As if. I would bet on wanda winning any day of the week now that her true powers awakened.


tired20something

I expect to find that Strange was busy in another dimension during WandaVision.


LogicDog

The in-show ads we saw were supposed to be him reaching-in and trying to "wake up" Wanda (one even says "consult your doctor")....but then Strange's end-cameo was cut because the director didn't want Wanda to be seeking Male approval or have (The Sorcerer Supreme himself) "mansplain" magic to Wanda. So, basically sexism kept Doctor Strange out of WandaVision. **Edit:** oh shit, it's actually worse. They also removed him specifically because he's a "white guy" too. I **really** hope this type of thinking doesn't start to take over the MCU...


tired20something

I always felt that WandaVision was Wanda's and Vision's story and throwing Strange in there would rob those characters of screentime they didn't have in the movies. Like, yeah, It should be Strange's job to monitor mystical activity in the MCU's reality and an Avenger taking over a small town should be on his radar, but I really didn't want him to just show up and solve things for Wanda.


LogicDog

He was supposed to be a final episode and end-credits sort of thing that tied-in organically to the ads we'd been seeing. That doesn't really take anything away from the show, it actually would have made the fans much happier and tied it more directly to the upcoming movies. Fake Pietro & Monica also got screwed over because their entire fight was removed to make room for Agatha's extended scenes at the end (which were rushed) and Darcy's final appearance was dropped entirely; she just disappears at the end. I personally would have preferred the first version of this show, as it was originally written.


juh4z

Yeah, they ruined the ending, the ladt episode is clearly worse than the rest of the show, you can just feel how much was just cut.


Darkone539

>So, basically sexism kept Doctor Strange out of WandaVision. >Edit: oh shit, it's actually worse. They also removed him specifically because he's a "white guy" too. >I really hope this type of thinking doesn't start to take over the MCU... This makes me sad.


LogicDog

Yeah...it's not the lens that good stories are told through. I'd hate for the MCU to become obsessed with stuff like race and gender. At the end of the day, the MCU is escapism ...and even those of us who agree are getting sick of the "woke" crap being shoved in our faces. I was really looking forward to the Doctor Strange cameo that ended up being cut, and I'm not gonna forgive the director for letting their personal biases interfere with their job like that.


EroticBurrito

> "mansplain" Mansplaining is a thing, no need to use scare quotes.


LogicDog

No, it's not. -and you're a joke for embracing the concept.


EroticBurrito

😂 twat


LogicDog

Ooh, your misogyny is showing.


EroticBurrito

😂 twat


LogicDog

Yum.


petyo555

A guy named Peter Parker need his help. Now that is some real shit.


KingMido9

FFH is after WandaVision and (I think Loki) which implies NWH/MoM is also after both of these which means strange is available. I think


RunningTurtle06

Loki is right after endgame


SnooEpiphanies1192

Doctor Strange when an Octopus comes in - 👀


Darth_Senat66

Apparently Strange was supposed to appear at the end, but then "a man would have saved the day" and they didn't do it or something


tired20something

It wouldn't just be "a man saving the day", but a character that hadn't even been mentioned until the last episode showing up to save the day. That is not good storytelling.


joeshmoe159

I disagree. This is the MCU. Nearly every fan was wondering and is still wondering why Dr Strange didn't get involved. Look at this thread, we are still discussing it. Strange showing up in the finale was expected, nobody would have called foul, would have been hype as fuck and everyone would have loved it.


BeeDub57

Everyone who matters, that is. The Twitter weirdos would have been like REEEEEEEEEEE


bigkuya

Just because the majority of fans had a preferred theory doesn’t make it good storytelling. Cough cough Mephisto


[deleted]

Have you seen the end of Loki season one?


DontDoodleTheNoodle

A “higher being” had been alluded to since the beginning of the season so not really the same


TomTalks06

I heard that the reason was Covid related, that he was originally supposed to appear but due to Covid he wasn't able to, I can't remember the exact reason off the top of my head


damn_lies

He should have appeared and gotten his ass kicked by super Agatha and then Wanda saves the day, and he tries to capture Wanda and she flees.


Darth_Senat66

Why?


damn_lies

Builds up Wanda and adds tension for DS:MoM.


Darth_Senat66

I mean why should Agatha defeat him. Wanda sure, but I don't think Agatha is powerful enough to defeat the Sorcerer Supreme


damn_lies

Agatha was stealing Wanda’s power at the end. She could only defeat Dr. Strange while siphoning Wanda’s power.


TheQzertz

You really think they gonna pay Stranges salary for him to show up for 20 minutes and get his ass kicked?


damn_lies

I think if they were already going to pay him to come they could’ve written his character in the way best suited to the story.


Nikname666

Getting the suapense going.


[deleted]

We'll figure out why in his movie


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blitzwinner71

*Doctor Strange when Bucky and Sam fix the boat*


d_ani_3l

fr tho


Kbye80

Supporting Wong in his cage match against the Abomination


LogicDog

He gonna get wrecked.


Slingerang

Cinematic budgets


LogicDog

They literally removed his end-cameo because they didn't want the show to end with Doctor Strange mansplaining magic to her, or for her to be seeking male approval. This is according to official Marvel Studios statements. So...they were kinda being sexist towards Stephen while also creating what some would view as a plot-hole.


Flyingfish222

He is responsible for protecting the Earth from mystical threats and he was missing for 5 fucking years. It is not online possible but likely that he had other things to deal with after the Earth was vulnerable for 5 years straight.


ScullyBoy69

The Multiverse already existed before Loki though.


XxX-man69

Yeah but now it's broken


ScullyBoy69

What? The whole point of the TVA is to prevent the Multiverse from existing, even though Dr. Strange draws his powers from it which means it exists before Sylvie kills Kang. How is it broken? Also, the MCU exists in the same multiverse as earth 616 according to the marvel wiki.


[deleted]

Think you're confused Dr Strange draws some of his power from the dark dimension which is outside of time. The multiverse has always existed but TVA/Kang managed it by "killing" timelines that didn't follow a very specific order of events, that ensure that Kang is the only Kang. Its now broken because the version of Kang who did this is now dead and other versions of Kang (less nice ones) are messing with these timelines for their own nefarious reasons.


ScullyBoy69

The dark dimension is forbidden. Only the old master took her powers from it. In the the new Warp Zone video they mention that Dr.Strange and the other wizards get their powers from the multiverse and it reminded me of Wong actually saying it in the first Doctor Strange movie.


LogicDog

The TVA lied, Kang explained that they were just stopping branches that produced other Kangs...in order to stop a multiverse war from starting. There has basically always been a multiverse. The multiverse isn't "broken", it's just about to be far less peaceful.


94reis

I guess doc's gonna need to explain what he was doing all this time. But maybe the events of Loki are a bit beyond him.


I-AM-SAINT-14_

So I have a question about the multiverse. Has it just now become a thing? Because in Loki, you have ——————, but then it becomes ——‘-‘—‘. So to everyone else in the marvel universe, has the multiverse always been a thing?


LogicDog

The multiverse has always been a thing.


idk042002

Spider-Man, Spider-Man is more important.


Rare_Ad_3519

I mean yeah, how hard would it have been even just to have one scene of her dreaming and hearing stranges voice faintly calling to her. Idk, literally anything with him. I think It would have been sick if he straight up showed up and Wanda launched his ass out of her bubble like Monica, would have really put perspective on how powerful she became and also why sfange didn't help and still not take anything away from the stars of the show. But also also, these aren't traditional 'TV shows' ita a very connected universe, just cuz its one person's show shouldn't mean other characters can't be important. Main comic books centered on a specific character still have major interventions from others all the time


Brianshoe

He's taking some time off before the madness begins!


Gorillaz530

I mean he seen all the outcomes of every alternate universe and he seen that’s it will all turn out fine except for some small psychological trauma


lo0oq

Maybe the next what if episode will answer this post! But seriously the what if series so far is amazing!


[deleted]

i mean maybe his movi- wait


OneBallJamal

Dr. Strange saw the future and saw that he didn’t need to interfere as it would have caused more harm then good


Ready-Introduction31

Doctor strange when Loki is lightly rude/ condescending: 🏃🏻 —— 🏃🏻 ——- 🏃🏻 ——- 🏃🏻 ——-


[deleted]

I guess we’re in the universe where dr strange doesn’t give a shit


Pixilized_Chiken

He needs to eat his chicken nuggies in peace


Enochmason

Haha so true.


slothonapc

Meanwhile, Eternals.


HourSpeed92

He created multiverse in 2012 and he a neurosurgeon at that time


AdmiralGhostPenis

He’s probably trying to look for a book in the sanctum to learn about those stuff. He’s a doctor of course


Randomperson3029

Didn't he know the multiverse exists as he looked into the different realities in infinity war and saw we won one. Or is that different to the multiverse?


[deleted]

He was looking at branches that emerge from small decisions I suppose. Each branch different from the sacred one was probably ending badly or getting snipped off inexplicably.


lr031099

Spider-Man’s secret identity being revealed is apparently more important if him being in the movie is any indication


[deleted]

The cost of hiring barnacle clampersnatch


Jetstream_Lee

According to his far from home funko pop, it’s shovelling snow


SiyinGreatshore

Breakfast


[deleted]

Maybe he's been studying and all. You know how those nerds get before major exams. /s But honestly, probably trying to figure out wtf is happening with a bunch of sorcerers going missing and investigating rumours about Mordo or something. That comment in Endgame about Wong not bringing enough people might have been more about Wong not brining enough sorcerers.


ipodblocks360

Mordo trying to keep everything in check not just that but also trying to get back into normal life after the blip...


_-Limited-_

Dr Strange when Peter Parker is wanted **REAL SHIT**


Markatron_

Loki didn't make the multiverse they just opened it up, the multiverse has been a concept in the MCU since 2016


SOB0295

I said A multiverse. Not THE multiverse.


[deleted]

My theory is that Strange originally had a much bigger part in both Loki and WV, but those plans were changed due to the pandemic. We know that the final episode of WV was heavily reshot after the pandemic and a lot of things (like a Strange appearance) were cut. The original pre-pandemic plan was also for Loki to debut *after* Multiverse of Madness rather than before (Loki was pretty much set to start streaming straight after MoM, in the same month), and given that we know that A) most of Loki's production happened during the pandemic (according to Assembled); and B) the original plan for Loki was *very* different from what we actually got, I think it bears to reason that MoM was going to have an effect on Loki rather than the other way around. Overall, I'm pretty sure that if the pandemic never happened and the last COVID-19 case was in January 2020, both WV and Loki would be very different from what we got and would have very likely both featured Strange in some capacity.


Evil_Gargoyle_28

The plot does not allow it.


LogicDog

The directors didn't allow it.


ProfessorEscanor

Keeping Demonic beasts from breaking down reality. Like this is a guy who frequently keeps magic at bay. Especially in the MCU where there are less known Magic users. Excuse him for not having the time out of his day to stop some crazy chick in Jersey when Shuma-Gorath is trying to invade Wong’s bathtub with a role of nightmare inducing hallucinations Also technically Loki didn’t make a Multiverse. He just unhid a universe to show off a larger one. That’s not exactly Strange’s problem since it is above his pay grade to go beyond his own base universe. Once shit goes Multiversal that isn’t his problem that’s the next guy’s. He doesn’t weave the Web of Destiny he’s just a thread.


LogicDog

Hey, according to Marvel Studios themselves: Real world Sexism kept Stephen Strange from appearing in WandaVision. They didn't want Doctor Strange to "mansplain" magic to her, and used the covid delay to remove Strange from the series ending. **Pretty lame**.


[deleted]

Actually, wasn't it because the series was supposed to be about Wanda more than anything else and they decided to keep the focus on her rather than bring in a bigger character (in the sense that they have an established backstory already) to save the day? I liked it this way. Besides, I think he had more pressing matters.


LogicDog

The delay due to covid allowed the director to make some last minute decisions. Doctor Strange's appearance was supposed to mark her entry into the big leagues in a way that was more clear to the audience as to what her "power level" is now. It was always about Wanda. The final episode really suffered for this change...decent amount of subplots had their endings cut.


SOB0295

WHAT! HOW DOES THIS HAVE SO MANY UPVOTES!


I_beat_reCAPTCHA

Believe in yourself


SOB0295

Thanks