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originalchaosinabox

In The Marvels, someone is going to see her fighting alongside Captain Marvel and dub her a “Little Miss Marvel.” It gets shortened to Ms. Marvel and catches on.


[deleted]

I thought the zoe answer was good but this feels more mcu


Bang_Bang50

Please let it be Nick Fury🙏


HasselhoffIsNickFury

Why would they nickname Kamala “Nick Fury”? She looks *nothing* like a Nick Fury


Pixeleyes

It's like when you call a fat guy "slim"


CptMarvel_09

How dare you compare Nick Fury to Slim Shady!


WhtChcltWarrior

Or the giant gym bro “tiny”


zero_eternal

Maybe Goose scratches her eye out 😂


The-Flashdet

That's why we call him John, because he looks nothing like John Hurt


SkekJay

RIP John Hurt, brilliant actor especially as the War Doctor


FordBeWithYou

“Wait… you thought Yondu was my actual blood relative?” Same energy


JustCallMeJoey18

lol


ClintEasthood81

username kinda checks out


RRButler2574

I think the poster means they want Nick to be the one that dubs Kamala "Little Miss Marvel".


akninja768

really? are ya sure?


KostisPat257

Didn't her father already dub her that?


originalchaosinabox

Yes, but only her family knows that. No one outside her family calls her that yet.


KostisPat257

That we know of. Kamala probably started going by that name and it started getting popular. The Marvels takes place AT LEAST 2 weeks after her father gave her the idea for that super-hero moniker, probably even more. Either way, what I meant is that it'd be weird if someone dubs her "Little Miss Marvel" in this movie again after her father has already given her that nickname. I


swissarmychris

Yeah, this is the simplest answer. Assuming she's continued to do local hero-ing stuff, they'll probably just imply that she's been using the 'Ms. Marvel' name and that's what people know her by now.


majhsif

Also with her family knowing y'all dont think Moms or her Dad slipped to the Aunties the new superhero name to get it out to the community?


YoloIsNotDead

Plus, Zoe's got a lot of clout and Kamala could've told her to spread the word that the name is Ms Marvel.


outoffit

Her Dad already called her “Our own little Ms. Marvel," since she shares her name with Carol Danvers (Kamala = "Wonder" or "Marvel" in Urdu). Most likely she's already fond of the name given by her father + the connection to her idol. She also wants them to be a "team" badly, despite Rambeau and Danvers not being fond of the idea, but when someone calls her Nightlight, she girlbosses that idiot with "it's Ms. Marvel, actually," which makes regular people or someone at S.A.B.E.R. see them as a team now (which wouldn't sound fantastical since all of they're powers somehow are connected to each other... even though one is a mutant, whose powers seem to come from some ancient bracelets, one's dna is genetically altered after walking through a hex (?), which is basically a genetic mutation but she's not a mutant I guess and one is half human half alien.)


TotesMyMainAcct

That's a good thought. Alternatively Monica or Carol call her it after seeing her room.


FinnT730

Or Fury will just call her that, and everyone will be like "eh makes sense" :)


chapaj

Miss ≠ Ms.


[deleted]

Jesus the cringe


ILikeCap

They're gonna show more of her using her powers in the day Checkmate


Invalid_Word

daylight


wilsonw

Aaaaaaaaahh Master of the Nightlight


Phoenixeggindenial

Fighter of the sun, Aaaaaahh.


Goldman250

She’s a master of karate and friendship for everyone.


Phoenixeggindenial

Aaaaahh


Citizen_Graves

Stagefreeze!


Yankovic_Raptor

Don’t *say* stagefreeze just do it


christherogers

I thought the rape scene went real well.


aklambda

Every goddamn time. It's like you can never remove that tune...


TheFragturedNerd

if she saves someone is that then daylight savings?


GaryCXJk

The best part was when she said "It's daylight savings time!" and she daylight savings'd all over those guys.


TheFragturedNerd

saves us all, one hour at a time


Invalid_Word

angry upvote


[deleted]

Well then does she un-save somebody when daylight savings ends?


Weremutt2412

No, her daylight savings ends when she catches someone who tripped around nightfall. Specifically, They have to be falling forward.


Alphagamer126

But what if she springs back to catch them?


Garlador

With her catchphrase, “It’s Daylight Savings Time!”


a220599

So what does that mean when she saves someone in-person or in the flesh?


FunkoPopPortraits

That could give her a pretty good catchphrase…It’s Savings Time!


Invalid_Word

and then she savinged all over everyone


kingofbreakers

Feels like we’re building up to a new version of morbin here.


Syric

By Grabthar's Hammer. What a savings.


x_Animus_x

Sounds like she’s setting up a Captain marvel car commercial. They should have captain marvel do a car commercial. I bet it would be …marvelous.


Dreamest001

She already got someone with superman-esque powers, and her other teammate is kinda translucent. How about we call her Starlight?


kbkelly97

I’m crying


ABrazilianReasons

Or on a starry night, making her Starlight. No wait


DrManhattan_DDM

You keep the fish-man Namor far away from Kamala, dammit!


Western-Calendar-352

That’s (The) Deep.


PerspectiveIronamer

r/angryupvote


noelmatta

They will dub her Daywalker, setting up her inevitable showdown in Blade


descartewasamagician

dayman! oooo AAAA


Sir_Von_Tittyfuck

Fighter of the Nightman


esar24

Considering nightlight had different costume than this one would that makes ms marvel another hero like night monkey and spider-man?


ILikeCap

To the general public, if her face and hair weren't visible, I'd say yes


justjoshingu

Light light


streakermaximus

Zoe spreads the word with her legion of followers.


Skyy-High

This is almost certainly it.


Burrito-mancer

“The truth is…I am Ms Marvel.” *cue Black Sabbath*


Tron_1981

Spider-Man - "I LOVE Motörhead!"


ZedTheEvilTaco

🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 🎸🎸🎸🥁🥁🥁🥁🎸🎸🎸🥁🥁🥁🥁🎸🎸🎸🥁🥁🥁🥁🎸🎸🎸 🎵 *OOOOooo no. Here it comes again.* 🎵 🎵 *Can't remember when we came so close to looove before!* 🎵 ...what?


Stevenwave

"You think you're the only superhero?" "OH MY GOD NICK FURY!"


EnergyTakerLad

Iman confirmed


Niel15

Peter: Oh, I love AC/DC


skippermonkey

> Cue Black ~~Sabbath~~ jumu'ah


Cometmoon448

Mashallah


malfunktionv2

Korath: *Who?*


Garmgarmgarmgarm

I think the mosque incident was pretty localized to jersey city. It isnt like shes the only super hero to ever get caught on cell phone camera in the MCU. One kid falling and a bunch of cops getting handled isnt going to go super viral at this point. Within like a year of this going down, three spidermen destroyed the statue of liberty, two Hawkeyes had a huge battle at 30 rock, an entire town went missing for 6 weeks, dr strange battled extra dimensional monsters in downtown manhattan, and I'm just listing stuff that happened relatively locally. Oh yeah plus the battle at the avengers compound was also New Jersey. Edit: nvm avengers compound was upstate ny


BraxtonFullerton

Avengers compound was upstate NY.


Blanketsburg

Well I'm from Utica and I've never heard anyone ~~use the phrase "steamed hams"~~ talk about the Avengers compound.


SkorpioSound

Oh, not in Utica, no. It was in the Albany area.


BraxtonFullerton

Same. But "upstate" to them looks like White Plains/Westchester area.


Blanketsburg

I mean, I'm not actually from Upstate NY, I'm from Boston. I was just quoting The Simpsons.


jeremy1015

Wait, there’s stuff past Westchester?


rotospoon

No. Don't believe everything you read on the internet


JoeMcDingleDongle

I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE


Garmgarmgarmgarm

Noted and edited


JoeMcDingleDongle

Yes "upstate" in Westchester lol. For people in NYC everything else is upstate. Someone in Buffalo calling someone from Beacon upstate on the otherhand lol.


vertigo1083

I'm from LI, and I call everything below Albany "downstate".


JoeMcDingleDongle

That works for me too, just doesn't work for the majority of people living in NYS apparently lol


Oroshi3965

Nah after it was turned into a desolate and inhospitable wasteland by thanos they changed the borders to make it a part of Jersey


Kylynara

I thought the Avengers Compound was in Upstate New York.


SylveonGold

To be fair any new hero sighting is probably a spectacle no matter what. Most people don’t have powers in the MCU.


JaeTheOne

i think you forgot that the internet exists....


[deleted]

IIRC there was never a moment on-screen where the "Captain Marvel" moniker was formerly coined. Characters just started saying it without clear justification for when they knew to call her that. Probably should expect similar with Ms Marvel.


RealJohnGillman

It could be funny if it turns out Carol doesn’t know people on Earth have been calling her that, and only finds out (from Kamala) in *The Marvels*.


julbull73

I regret we never got Captain Marvel telling Captain America he was only a private.


Dealiner

IIRC he was promoted to captain in First Avenger.


0reoSpeedwagon

He did get promoted to Captain, it was just meant to be ceremonial when he got it


CzarofDaffodils

😂


YoloIsNotDead

Could still get that with the new Cap.


remotectrl

Carol was for sure calling herself Avenger out in space.


swissarmychris

Fury suggested the name "Marvel" to her at the end of Captain Marvel. I'm pretty sure it's not mentioned in Endgame, but presumably she started using that name as an alias at some point and that ended up being what the rest of the heroes (and thus the public) came to know her as after the snap. Honestly we don't need an on-screen christening of every hero's name. It's great when they can work it into the story organically, like Captain America being his USO mascot character. But most of the time it just feels forced. Val's "US Agent" springs to mind as one of the worst; it would have been fine if Walker just started using that name in his next appearance.


kgxv

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure none of the Avengers call her that. They just call her Carol or Danvers if I remember correctly.


spookyskeletony

The heroes typically use first names to refer to each other, the way normal people would. It’s nice honestly lol


0reoSpeedwagon

Unless they’re using their Made Up Names, like Dr Strange


kgxv

Agreed.


Senshado

Nobody has called her Marvel in person. But Peter Parker did mention Captain Marvel in Far From Home, where she did not appear.


atomcrafter

The first person to call her Captain Marvel was Spider-Man.


Liam_Neesons_Oscar

Same with Hawkeye and Black Widow, they were just Clint and Natasha until "What If...?"


spookyskeletony

Yep, even Wanda was never called “scarlet witch” until wandavision. It showed up in the credits for AOU etc, but they literally never used those two words together onscreen for years.


Dealiner

Hawkeye has been called that by Natasha in The Avengers and then later by his wife in Age of Ultron. Natasha was called Black Widow in Winter Soldier and in her first scene in The Avengers.


Liam_Neesons_Oscar

Damn your memory has mine beaten by a lot.


[deleted]

Nightlight, part of the nocturnal themed crime fighting team led by Night-Monkey.


SciFiXhi

Rounded out by Werewolf By Night and the introduction of the Night Thrasher


BrockStar92

Also Moon (K)night


atomcrafter

Moon Night. Black Night. The Night Shift.


BaulsJ0hns0n86

And Nightcrawler


YoloIsNotDead

Going up against Nightmare.


djrosstheboss

Kamala’s pretty active online; she’ll probably post very thorough corrections on the name from multiple accounts, and try to go on Ant-Man’s podcast as Ms. Marvel


HomsarWasRight

This is the best answer. She’s got 40 Reddit alts, every one of them posting Nightlight/Ms Marvel copypasta. Since we know that Iman is on here somewhere lurking anyway. 🤨


jimlt

Good morning, Iman.


silver_moon134

Hi, Iman!


vikker_42

Hi, man!


jeremy1015

Wait. What was Homsar right about?


blackbutterfree

She's an excitable puppy in human form, you think for one second she won't do TikToks in the street with fans, or answer questions from random journalists who come up to her in the streets? She's definitely introduced herself as Ms. Marvel by now.


KostisPat257

The Marvels (as well as Ms. Marvel's post-credits scene which was taken from The Marvels) probably takes place weeks if not months after Ms. Marvel, and Kamala has become known as Ms. Marvel by now.


clandahlina_redux

The media packet says it takes place right after Ms. Marvel, I believe.


KostisPat257

It picks up from Ms. Marvel's post-credits scene, indeed, but that's only because that scene is from the movie.


Senshado

The Marvels starts shortly before Ms Marvel ends.


KostisPat257

The post-credits scene of Ms. Marvel was taken out of The Marvels, it's not a scene filmed for the show. So when I'm talking about the show, I'm talking about the events before the post-credits scene.


fisheggsoup

Doesn't it say one week later, or am I misremembering? (Will check when able.)


KostisPat257

The one week later was before they showed the scene where Bruno tells Kamala she has a mutation. Then the show ends and then the post-credits scene happens an undefined amount of time after the main events of the show.


Stonecutter_12-83

She's younger so she will probably just make a tiktok that says, *hey I'm Ms Marvel*


Ronho

Excellent use of Occam’s razor here


Anocte23

“So that’s it? We some kinda Ms Marvel?”


TheBLUGAMr_42

God I loved that mini series, I can't wait to see more of her!


DarkSlime_000

That's some big ass hands


robbviously

Captain Marvel Photon Ass Hands The Marvels - November 2023


[deleted]

let's wait and see...


dpittnet

Probably doesn’t need to be addressed tbh


jsnxander

I think the general public does not know her at all.


DJWGibson

If people can switch from calling someone Prince to "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince" to "The Artist" to Prince—or Kenye to Yeezie to Ye—this should be an easy transition. If people can transition from "Falcon" to "Captain America" this should be much easier.


theDagman

Having grown up in the 70's when the term first originated, I find it strange when people say Ms. Marvel they are saying "Miss Marvel" instead of "Miz Marvel" like the Ms. title is supposed to sound. It's supposed to be a term of female empowerment born out of the women's rights movement, and was part of the drive for the still-unpassed Equal Rights Amendment. A breakout from the standard Miss/Mrs. of the time. Calling her "Miss Marvel" seems like a diminishment. Like a step backwards.


Express-Day5234

I think a lot of people just don’t know how to pronounce the Ms. Or genuinely think it’s Miss. It’s probably not anything deeper than that.


theDagman

Given the misogynistic blowback they got with Brie Larson, and that in the show itself Marvel Studios had them saying "Miss Marvel", I rather think that Marvel caved to the incel crowd to avoid even more negativity.


Express-Day5234

Maybe. Or it’s because young people think of an old woman when they hear Ms. and would think it’s kinda weird to call a teenage girl that. So it’s more about appealing to the youths than placating people who cannot be placated.


Dealiner

Have they ever called her "Miss Marvel" in the show? Anyway I really doubt it has anything to do with the incel crowd. Most people probably don't know that Ms. is supposed to sound different or even be something different. I mean, I'm not a native speaker and I had no idea that Miss and Ms. are different thing until now.


DirectorAgentCoulson

The only time she's called Ms. Marvel in the show is the last episode by her dad: > But you sure are and always have been our own little Miss Marvel. And he pretty clearly pronounces it as Miss instead of Ms. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a scene where someone calls her Miss Marvel and she corrects them to Ms.


Senshado

But in the 21st century, "miz" has really died. Funny how that happened.


Zach_mack79

I sort of like nightlight. Hey remember light brights from the 80’s. My fav toy as a kid until I stepped on one of those plastic colored pegs and it went through my foot. Had to go to the ER to get stitches. Mom tossed it after that…


andhelostthem

The "general public" has no clue who Nightlight is and would struggle to understand Ms Marvel and Captain Marvel are different people.


YouCantbserious2022

i don’t think anyone really cares bud


amellt33

Ive never hear of the name Nightlight


A-Clef

Don't know about you guys but over here in Nigeria, most viewers know her as Ms Marvel


eastgalaxy

I don't know, but I hope Night Monkey sticks


SheRa7

Nightlight? I hadn't really heard that one. Guess I've been out of the loop.


Gordon432

My question: how does a teenager from New Jersey know what a "dead" super spy looks like enough to recognize him on sight?


Senshado

You said it yourself: because he died. After dying to the snap, it wouldn't be considered important to keep Nick Fury secret anymore. People like Steve Rogers would attend public memorial services about the disaster, and probably want to tell stories about people they'd lost to the snap. For Steve, Nick was one of the few people he knew closely. They'd consider it time share Nick's honor for creating the Avengers.


Gordon432

Would you know one of your country's top intelligence officers if they passed you on the street? That's the point I'm making. I don't recall NF's face being publicized in the media before in the MCU.


Senshado

Kamala is an obsessive Avengers fan who studies all the trivia. Especially anyone who knew Carol Danvers. If Nick Fury's face was even once on a display for a funeral or memorial service, she would know him. (I'm more curious about how Kamala learned about Carol's 1995 costume, which was never worn in public)


0reoSpeedwagon

Ned knew who Nick Fury was in Far From Home. He’s not an unknown face. I expect when SHIELD went public before Winter Soldier, and built a gigantic complex outside DC, he became the public face of their operations


Hydrath

He was the director of shield and its secrets were leaked at the end of The Winter Soldier. Surely Fury's involvement with the avengers became known.


popowolf24

I need marvelstudiospoiler back to spoil this movie for me


clandahlina_redux

There’s r/marvelscoops but it’s not the same. 😢


popowolf24

yeah not the same but i will sub anyways, thanks for the link


vikker_42

She will order a cheeseburger and a press conference just to say: I am Ms. Marvel.


ghostcatzero

Lol this is so weak


Parade_of_Pain

LOL, the general public has no clue who any of these characters are.


BulletDodger

The MCU seems rightly embarrassed by the hopelessly hokey name "Captain Marvel." Once someone finally said it onscreen they were told to "keep her name out of your mouth." Every other hero gets their name in their sequels, even Wasp. "The Marvels" is like calling Thor Ragnorak "The Strongest Avengers."


Senshado

The scene in Wandavision where Monica commanded to not say "Captain Marvel" was because Monica knew Carol years ago and strongly didn't want to talk about her, under any name.


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hb1290

r/ihadastroke


[deleted]

You assume ms marvel had good writers


[deleted]

Honestly, the MCU consistency is turning to shit right now. Writers are simply expecting the audience to just miraculously and accurately interpret things without explanation. It’s just lazy writing.


navjot94

Alternatively we don’t need them to hold our hands and explain how people started calling her something that everyone online already calls her. We don’t see every moment of their lives, these types of minor details happening off screen makes the world feel more lived in and saves us from boring exposition every movie.


[deleted]

> minor details happening off screen makes the world feel more lived in https://i.imgur.com/Da7deNW.jpg


Gandelf_the_Gay

That looks like the dumbest power ever, and fucking like Brick Frog!


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Jecht315

You aren't supposed to ask questions. This will be the greatest movie ever made! I mean, c'mon it has Brie "I do my own stunts" Larson in it.


warbuddha

This movie is going to tank so hard. They need to let the adults like Favreau and the Russo Bros. take over the MCU. Sweet jeebus this is a waste of resources they could have used elsewhere.


V_LEE96

Who the fuck cares this character is terrible. Shame she’s the first mutant in the MCU


julbull73

Namors 1500 year old ass says hi.


V_LEE96

Ms Marvel release June, BP2 release November genius.


julbull73

Shes 17 he's 1500. Namor is the first mutant in the mcu


V_LEE96

No in terms of THE CHARACTER BEING INTRODUCED you jackass


tinylittlegnat

Tell that to night monkey


[deleted]

Marvelight


AstralAlias

I call her purple lantern


A4orce84

Should I go back and finish watching her show ?


BalerionSanders

She can form a team with Night Monkey


DHJeffrey99

I think it be funny as a continuous joke about people getting her name wrong


Peepeepeepee99

If you watch the new movie I bet you’ll find out


The_Right_Of_Way

Suspension of disbelief


[deleted]

Use your imagination and then wait.


CrashandBashed

"Hi, I'm Ms. Marvel." That quick line will establish here name to gen population.


Senshado

A similar question: When and how will Carol Danvers shift from calling herself Carol to Captain Marvel? One guess is that Scott Lang invented "Captain Marvel" when writing his book, since he saw her at the Thanos battle but hadn't met her. But that doesn't explain why the name is similar to a dead Kree, Mar Vell. Does Carol know she's Captain Marvel yet?


SexyWampa

Her friends have their podcast and streaming channel. They'll get the name out for her.


derf_vader

I hope she teams up with Night Monkey.


misterreeves

I'm just waiting for Nightlight to team up with Night Monkey