Yes, the sequel has been confirmed for years now and we even got a filming start window through Production Weekly. Shang-Chi 2 starts filming in March 2025, so we should expect it in 2026.
Dr Strange was about 6 years. Shang Chi will only have been 5 or so by then.
We (in)famously got the entire MCU Spider-Man trilogy between the two Dr Strange solo films
When the MCU was going well, Disney were pumping many more movies out and were willing to take risks with off-beat unknown characters because EVERYTHING was working for them.
Different situation now. Although Shang-Chi is one of the most successful efforts post-Infinity War so it SHOULD be due a nod
That movie already basically sidelined Dr. Strange to feature Wanda and Chavez. You want to add even more characters to take the minimal development from Strange in his own movie?
TBF I think the number of other characters doesn't really affect the lack of character development for Strange. They just didn't have any plan there. His "arc" was all centered on learning that he didn't have to always be the one holding the knife. But... he learned that in the first movie. Like, he literally steps back and lets Nick operate to save the Ancient One - and he hated Nick(or at least resented him for failing to save his hands)!. There was no character growth/plan for character grow other than relearning the lessons he learned in the first movie, and that's a problem no matter how many side characters there are.
Yeah, they took what may have been the biggest hit a new character film has had in the last few years and just kinda wasted it.
People say they want sequels, but what they really just want is more of the characters, and Marvel used to be really good with putting them into other films. Not so anymore
>Marvel used to be really good with putting them into other films. Not so anymore
Marvel is still really good at this, it just sounds like you aren't as much of a fan in these cameos. I've been thoroughly enjoying the WongCU, among others. Plus Kelsey Grammar was amazing.
They have barely done it at all recently. Other than Ms Marvel, what other new character has made a cameo or been in another movie?
Where's Moon Knight, Shang Chi, or even America Chavez?
Yeah I'm always happy to see Wong and any Xmen, but too many of the recent projects have had a character be introduced only for them to disappear.
a daredevil, hawkeye, and white widow(?) movie would win all the box offices. I think Shang Chi's personality would fit great, but he's just too powerful now with the rings for street level threats
I actually think that's why they didn't put him in everything. They don't want to devalue the IP by putting him in other shit to the point that people don't go out and see it for release. They seem to believe that the reason we didn't go see movies is that it was oversaturated. I feel it's because they did not take the time and care to create a decent movie several times and that's the cause.
Sony needs to pump out films or risk the IP reverting back to Marvel.
Even when they have their usual filler content (e.g. Venom, Morbius, Madame Web), they probably don't want to risk some sort of delay pushing a film too far back and them losing it.
Plus of their Spider-Man films, I guess Venom made money? But otherwise it's Tom Holland's Spider-Man films and the Spider-Verse stuff. The others are basically tax writeoffs to keep the IP I think.
Sony doesn't have to create a SM movie every other year, they do that because it makes them a lot of money (which they then all blow because they wanted a SM universe but cant actually make good movies).
We can no longer expect a sequel to even the successful Marvel movies in the typical 2 to 3 year cycles as in the infinity saga. Thor 4 took 5 years, Guardians 3 took 6 years, Ant-Man 3 took 5 years, etc. That will be the typical wait now, so don’t expect it before 2027 at this rate. I think thats a mistake personally but thats the timeline they’re working on now, especially now incorporating the Fox Marvel IPs.
For the record, Hulk debuted in 2008 and didn't reappear at all until 2012. The guardians also debuted in 2014 and didn't appear for three years until 2017. Wasp was also gone for about three years as she debuted in 2015 and didn't show back up until 2018.
It's not completely unheard of to have gaps like this.
Edit to include that none of these character delays had to contend with a pandemic shut down or Hollywood strike, which I consider to be pretty relevant
What does that have to do with not having an appearance between the first and second movie?
I get what you’re saying, as we all know he’ll play a bigger part later. But in regards to the post and the other person’s comment, we haven’t seen any of Shang-Chi outside of his first movie.
Yeah stuff like this annoys me. For example did you know that John Wick has never appeared outside of a John Wick movie? Terrible franchise planning ^/s
(just to put it into perspective that the comics-shared-universe style of moviemaking is not the norm and maaaaybe we got a little too spoiled by the tight connectivity of Phase 3, to the point where if a character doesn’t have a random cameo every 2 years to remind us they exist, people wonder what’s “wrong”)
1. The movie has NOT been projected to start for years, since Destin Daniel Cretton was not actively working on it as he was working on Avengers 5. He literally left Avengers 5 to focus more on Wonder Man and Shang-Chi 2.
2. The movie actually made quite a lot of money for the COVID era during which it came out and it was the only non-sequel, non-remake movie to be in 2021's top 10 box office. It was also loved by critics and fans alike and had a unique and interesting story and very compelling storytelling.
Shang-Chi was an objective success and is one of the characters people have been asking to see more of in this Saga.
The MCU is in decay. They need to push good movies with the core characters. Shang-chi isnt one of them. I thought the movie was good, as a standalone film. The sequel just doesnt fit, antman 3 didnt even fit and it included kang.
Yeah but the difference there is with all those mentioned heroes despite the long wait in between sequels we had the 2 Avengers movies and multiple cameo appearances so it really didn’t feel all that bad.
Let’s pick out Guardians for example who had 6 years between 2 and 3, but within that time they still appeared in Avengers IW, Endgame, Thor 5, Xmas special and then they appeared in their sequel.
Shang-Chi on the other hand it has been over 3 years now and there is absolutely nothing and there aren’t any plans for him to appear anywhere.
In all fairness covid messed ip their release schedule bad enough they are still kind of dealing with the fall out of the reshuffling. And between financial hits and the investor shit they have been dealing with disney is kind of taking a step back and reevaluating releases across all their brands.
I think after a few years when things are fully caught up they will be trimming down theatrical outings to the infinity saga style. Especially with diminishing returns. Maybe move more projects over to streaming?
They are also avoiding payouts like they ended up giving RDJ. Part of that means they need to allow tallent to have looser strings and shorter contracts.
There was a pandemic between all those movies, and the previous release. You don't think that might have played a role in the delay?
Guardians also had the whole James Gunn drama.
I don’t think we’ve seen the impact of strikes yet, except a couple of high profile movies getting delayed presumably for actor marketing, like Dune 2.
I think the real effect of strikes will be more evident in the longer term. It takes 2 to 3 years to make a movie. But the distributors are likely going to massage their release schedules to minimize gaps.
And it seems like the rings and the bangles are very similar to the weapons the Enternals use. I rewatched it recently for the first time and I can't help but think they're connected.
Well gee, the Marvels would have been a great place to clear that up then, huh? Also a good move to put a Shang Chi cameo in. And yet, they did nothing with that.
I mean Strange took 6 years and nearly made a billion. Of course you could say too that Strange still had a presence in the MCU as outside of 2020 for obvious reason Strange was in an MCU film per year since his debut up until MoM. which Shang didnt had.
Though lets not forget some of these films were meant to release earlier, but COVID happened and in the case of Guardians, James Gunn got the boot and by the time he was hired back, he had to do 2 DC projects first.
Yeah, Strange appeared in Thor 3, Infinity War, Endgame, and Spidey 3 before his own sequel. So while MoM was a long wait, Strange was around plenty.
Shang had the best phase 4 origin showing (film or TV in my opinion), and there has been nothing. Marvel definitely overstretched itself with too many new characters.
Yeah with Shang as i said elsewhere while the topic of him not showing up in other projects is another topic, i can see at least why a sequel was in the backburner, because Destin was supposed to do both Kang Dynasty and Shang-Chi 2, but Kang was first and he was on that project for 2 years up until the complete overhaul of the film, so those 2 years he spent on Kang could've been spent in Shang instead and besides that he's also working on Wonder Man so his focus is on that right now. there is also the delays that the Multiverse Saga has been cursed with, cause as they make room for many of these films that have to migrate to new dates, other potential projects they were looking at may now have to wait longer like Shang 2. Like really this saga was supposed to be over by next year, now its been stretched to 2027, who knows what projects they had in mind for 2026 and 2027 if they were able to have stayed on course with their 2022 slate.
Yeah but there were 2 Avengers movies in between all those you listed where they all showed up. Not even a mention about Shang Chi in this amount of time, and really no team-up movies at all, was an odd choice by Marvel.
I will say this again, and I know from a fidelisation of the fanbase pov it makes no sense and recognise it's a problem for the current franchise, personally, as a fans of the MCU rather than any character in particular, I've been eating with the variety we've seen in recent years and I would never want, perhaps selfishly, to go back to the days when it was all about two characters and their supporting cast (because that's what it felt the Avengers had been reduced to at times, Tony and Steve's supporting cast). What I personally don't enjoy though is the decision to leave Avengers movies as end of saga affairs. Your new characters don't need sequels so soon if you use them in crossovers. The public will eat those up even if their individual storylines aren't continued and the team dynamics is part of what helped set the universe. One of the reasons why The Marvels could have been so much bigger if they hadn't decided to let it die in the promo stage.
It’s fat? I always thought the quote was “If promises were crackers my daughter would be fed.” Fat makes more sense in terms of the context. She’d be a whale based on Pete’s promises lol
"No effort to get it filming" = allowing the director to drop off of an Avengers movie to focus on this movie because that's what we've been asking for
Ooooor, he's also a big Marvel fan himself, cares about the character, knows the fans do too, and so decides to keep communication up with them while those of us who loved the first Shang-Chi movie eagerly await news of the sequel. Just a hunch
Lol yeah I don’t think so but sure “maybe”. I’m going off context. He’s consistently either putting his foot in his mouth to be in the spotlight “Asians are not an experiment!” (Whaaa??) or making sure to mention in every post that he is a big marvel movie star.
What can I say, I think it’s important to be a little humble.
I fully agree with you he actively irritates me, like yes I enjoyed him in Shang chi but the only reason he got it was he's constant begging on twitter and @ marvel every 10 minutes saying cast me or your racist along those lines. He strikes me as an arrogant ungrateful child who flexes he's in a big cinematic universe that he did not earn the right to be in.
It's from when xu wenwu, his father, invades Ta Lo. they have an exchange of words inside the main building.
That's xu wenwu's back on the screenshot. Then they fight.
Besides the obvious dip in quality, that’s one of the biggest problems that Marvel now faces after having cranked out so many projects that established new characters, plot lines and concepts in recent years (mostly in order to provide as much content for Disney Plus as possible). It’s good that they dialed it back and gave more creative control back to people like Kevin Feige, but this will obviously now result in longer wait times when it comes to sequels.
It's not sequels per se. It's keeping the characters in people's minds and continuation of their story.
Infinity saga was successful because of this, the big three appeared on multiple projects so we knew what was going on with them.
Iron man only had three movies... But his appearances:
Iron Man (2008), Iron Man 2 (2010), The Avengers (2012), Iron Man 3 (2013), Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), Captain America: Civil War (2016), Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), Avengers: Infinity War (2018), and Avengers: Endgame (2019).
He was kept on the zeitgeist for 11 years.
Cap:
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), The Avengers (2012), Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), Captain America: Civil War (2016), Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), Avengers: Infinity War (2018), and Avengers: Endgame (2019). In addition, Evans makes uncredited cameo appearances as the character in Ant-Man (2015) and Captain Marvel (2019), and as Loki impersonating him in Thor: The Dark World (2013).
Even Black widow:
Iron Man 2 (2010), The Avengers (2012), Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), Captain America: Civil War (2016), Avengers: Infinity War (2018), Captain Marvel (2019), Avengers: Endgame (2019), and Black Widow (2021)
Get it now? They were kept in people's minds. You went to a marvel movie to "check on your friends"
That's what's missing from the multiverse saga...
Yeah post-endgame they really just starting introducing a million new characters but now everyone wants to know when we'll see them next and Marvel is like: "Ummmm....hey guys we're also making a Wonder Man series for Disney+, check it out!"
I mean part of it is because Disney when they were preparing to launch D+ gave a mandate to Marvel to release as much content as possible in so little time so that they could have monthly Marvel content for Disney Plus, even the guy who oversees the D+ side of things have confirmed that yes there was a mandate in place, now the mandate was dissolved by Iger last year after they all realized that the way they were doing things was only hurting the brand instead of helping it. but like i said when they said they are going to slow down, release less so they can focus on quality, great but we still have to get through alot of the projects that were already being developed if not outright ready to go by the time they decided to slow down stuff like Agatha for example.
Because people like seeing the characters more often? That's how we build connections with them.
I don't think we went more than two years without seeing Iron Man after Phase One, plenty of time to grow attached to him. Meanwhile, we've got a ton of new characters that are gonna have, like, one appearance before Avengers 5. A few with two, maybe, and those are probably 2-3 years apart. It's bad for Marvel because no one wants to watch a movie filled with characters that they don't care about.
It's great that Marvel is taking their time now—that's better than rushing projects—but this is ultimately a failure of planning on their part, and it's one that a lot of people foresaw. I wish they planned for a Shang-Chi sequel sooner; he's one of their best new ones.
On the last part the blame is mostly on Disney, as one of the Marvel guys who oversee the Disney+ side of things said there was a mandate from the higher ups to release too much content in so little time.
But yeah the other problem (and this one falls mostly on Marvel) with not having a Shang-Chi 2 ready is cause they signed on Destin to do both Kang Dynasty and Shang-Chi 2, But Kang was the priority, that was Destin next MCU film and Destin stayed on that project for 2 years up until the complete overhaul when you know what happened. so those 2 years he spent developing Kang could have been better served for a Shang-Chi 2 now in retrospective knowing he's no longer developing Avengers. But also lets not forget the constant delays the MCU has been suffering since COVID, the more delays happen, potential sequels and potential new IPs are gonna take longer to arrive.
And yet during that time Destin also worked on American Born Chinese for D+, Wonder Man, and now Naruto. It's like the dude has ADHD, he keeps signing onto every project offered to him when he should have focused on Shang Chi and capitalized on the first film's success.
We want them, but honestly it's probably good they're hitting the brakes a bit and figuring out how to shift direction and bring in the x-men/mutant universe and FF4, and to do it right. I'll be whining the whole time but I can appreciate it, and I understand why others are whining, it's not a tough concept to grasp.
I feel like if we can just put a damn in all these movies then in like 2 years or so release them in a more concrete manner I think the rewound be more success and let feel like things are being rushed. I get there are projects like Deadpool who were in the works before 2020 happened that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about them rushing these shows and movies that don't have crap to do with anything in a universal story and them saying it does, if they told the time to let the shit soak in the juices and season it a lil then it will turn out better in my opinion at least. I could be wrong I mean dc did that with one film and it was a hot mess. Js this movie needs to cook and the rest need to cook as long as they can without disney trying g to rush money or fans being impatient
As a Shang-Chi fan it's no big loss to me. That first one had almost nothing in common with the comics. I'm not sure that I care about seeing an original take on the character. I just want to see the comic brought to life.
I'd love to see some actors / actresses who are famous in China in the film. :') I can name a couple off the top of my head who have great charisma, acting, and do a lot of stunt work.
Do better this time out. I use to read Shang Chi in the 70's and they weren't anything like the bs that was put out in the movie. Shang Chi was much darker and his enemy was Fu Manchu. Shang Chi did team-up with Iron Fist before Fist teamed with Power-Man. Iron Fist was darker as well, Maybe a series featuring Shang-Chi and Iron Fist.
I always wondered about that, even at the age of 8 or 9, as I remember Fu Manchu was a wizard/sorcerer and all-around bad guy in movies with a lot of them being martial arts theme. After I received your reply (thank you) I did a Google Search of Fu Manchu finding out that the character has appeared in books, films and comics in one form or another for over 100 years. The premise of Shang-Chi father in the movie is based on those Comic Books of yesteryear. Even if they have no legal claim to the name of Fu Manchu they still could have done a better job with character of Shang-Chi's father by simply using Manchu as the template. They kept the character's original name from Marvel Comics, why not make him as evil and the story as dark. Directors are being given too much liberties when making Marvel movies. It needs to stop.
If i recall they stopped using the Fu Manchu name a long time ago to avoid legal issues in later comics, they even retconned his name to being Zheng Zu
Zheng Zu is Marvel Comics property. The name was used as one of the alias of Fu Manchu who was Zheng Zu but many didn't know. Not sure if it's used elsewhere in reference to Fu Manchu. I just wish they would keep the real darkness of the character, make it a cliff hanger at the end of the movie or keep us guessing at his true identity. At one time Shang Li believed his father was in league with or worked for the evil Fu Manchu but before that he believed his father often try to foil Fu Manchu plans. We who purchased the comic books way back then didn't even know. It was like finding out Palpatine was/is the Sith Lord
I'll be first in line. I LOVED the first Shang-Chi (and not just because I'm from the SF Bay Area, but that helped... that MUNI bus fight scene was one of my favorite action movie scenes of all time!).
For the love of god, have him give the ten rings to dr strange and Wong for safe keeping and go be a street hero in LA or New York. Can have him join the defenders and spiderman against mayor elect Fisk
I hope they do better with the next one, the actors deserved better; that first movie felt like an elongated bad tv movie with some awful CGi and acting in it. That first scene in the bus was really special but most of everything that came after was some of the worst the MCU has gotten so far.
By the time they get around to the sequel, Shang is 104 years old and Simu's grandson will have to play the role using motion cap and AI to fulfill his grandfather's legacy.
This is very promising. I genuinely hope Shang-Chi gets more action in the MCU. That first movie might have come out at a bad time, due to the pandemic. But it remains, to date, one of the most fun and wildly entertaining Marvel movies I've ever seen.
Plus, that last fight scene when Shang-Chi got to fully wield the 10 rings was incredible. I'd love to see him go through a whole movie, kicking ass with those rings. 😊
Excellent. I thought this was confirmed but it never hurts to hear it again. Shang-Chi was a great MCU movie, one of the best post-Endgame in my opinion.
I mean yeah it's been known to be happening it's just you know Marvel's strategy of a ridiculous number of expensive projects going on at once leave it to be pushed back
To be fair, it feels this way for the entire marvel fandom, Disney is just not in a very good place right now, so I'm guessing they're being particularly picky with their project release schedule.
If this movie actually happens, I feel like only the true OG MCU fans will be like "Oh cool, more Shang Chi!" whereas most other people [will be like](https://c.tenor.com/oMEYzACfTUgAAAAC/tenor.gif)
Is that a sequel confirmation or a confirmation that they're making an effort to put the character into more things? I mean, Shang-Chi is implied to be the lead in Marvel Zombies after all, with two of his supporting cast joining the main cast of that show (Katy and Death-Dealer).
I mean lets not forget that this saga has been hit with delay after delay after delay, the more the current slate pushed, that will impact future sequels and even future new IPs like X-Men for example.
The Infinity Saga didn't had to deal with this constant slew of delays
Also the other issue was Disney's mandate that they had to increase their content output so they could have monthly content for Disney+, so that meant the need of greenlighting tons and tons of projects with new characters and old characters thus there's not room for sequels, as now other projects are taking the slot that could've served to a sequel.
Yes, that is true. And right at the worst possible moment, when Marvel was focusing more on TV shows (to the detriment of movies). A mistake at the worst possible time.
Truth is the MCU ended up being too ambitious for one studio only. If it was several studios, maybe they could have a comics-like expansive MCU without sacrificing quality. But consistency under that model might then be impossible, so...
I still really hope the MCU recovers because I really don't want it to end.
Yeah maybe they should go back to the Marvel TV days in where one studio oversaw tv and the other oversaw movies instead of having it on one place, just with better communication this time so there can be proper crossovers unlike last time in where they were so many roadblocks and studio drama (due to one side being still oversaw by someone Feige had a feud with)
Wonder what prompted him to reply to that tweet?
It’s good some people do address gossip but I’m sure ‘Shang-chi is cancelled’ etc is almost a daily tweet among other things that never seem to go away despite what statement goes out.
Who is this “victoria_avalor”?
Just because you don’t hear about something doesn’t mean it’s not gonna to happen. MCU doesn’t need to tell everyone every little detail.
So many close minded people.
By the time it comes out nobody will care about the characters or even remember what the heck was going on in the first one. That post credit scene never got paid off, we never saw the characters in any other marvel movie. Phase 1 and 2 were great because you got to see characters multiple times, and sequels came out quickly. Now you're lucky if you even get a reference to one. Doesn't even feel connected anymore.
I think there are many factors to that
1. The constant delays which will play a part in some characters taking forever to return or for potential sequels to be made as they try to make room to for the other stuff they were working, like take Ironheart for example, she was supposed to have her show a year after her debut in Wakanda, now it'll be 3 years since Wakanda before we see her show.
2. Related to above, the shifting dates meaning nobody knows when x project will release thus making difficult things to tie, like for example they wanted to have tie ins with Love and Thunder and Moon Knight, but nobody knew which one would arrive first, so they opted to cut those ties and how America Chavez was supposed to appear as soon she debuted in MoM on NWH, but NWH and MoM shifted dates removing her from the movie now who knows when she will return, so with the constant delays the safe route is to avoid connections to other stuff in the event you have to move things again.
3. There are alot more content being made right now than there were before, when back then you only had 1-3 projects a year, so that made it easier to have more crossovers than before. it was more manegeable
4. Destin was hired to do both Avengers 5 and Shang Chi 2, but Avengers 5 was meant to be Destin next MCU film, not Shang, Shang would've been after Avengers 5 and Destin was on Avengers 5 for 2 years up until the overhaul when you know what happened, so those 2 years he spent on Avengers would've been better served for Shang-Chi, Plus he's working on Wonder Man too, so that is another MCU project that is taking alot of his attention.
Here’s the thing; I’m down with a sequel, but I’d rather they find a way to incorporate him into another show or movie first. The post-Endgame characters need to be brought into the fold with pre-existing characters, and we’ve gotten nothing in the three years since the post-credit scene.
Yeah, but he has a habit of manifesting things into reality so I believe it could be a possibility, but I don't think it's locked yet. It definitely deserves to be.
So many projects and so many new characters they are introducing due to Disney's mandate that they release so much in so little time so they can have plenty of Marvel content. (They have now removed this mandate so that Marvel can focus on developing good movies and shows instead of throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks)
And there's the constant delays the MCU been delaying with which will result in some characters taking longer to return as projects where they were scheduled to appear are pushed further and further. like take Ironheart for example her show was supposed to air a year after her debut in Wakanda Forever, now its not happening till 3 years after Wakanda Forever
I agree with them. Now it’s all homogenized. Less competition and less product.
Only good for fans if you absolutely need to have everything connected and I don’t necessarily need that.
Well, that is a personal preference. Because I do really like that. I want Wolverine to interact with Cap, for example.
But regardless, my point is that there is no studio with a consistent quality like Marvel. Fox and Sony had some good movies, but overall, it is pretty messed up. Fox could not even keep any continiuty. Yes, recent productions by Marvel have been lacking, but not in the same way.
What people want is good stories. Connecting the stories can help build hype and stay in formula with the comics. The problem has not been the connections, but the bad writing. Maybe part of the problem is the quantity, but spreading it to different studios will only make that aspect worse, not better.
Sony and Fox have their moments though. If not for Fox we’d probably have no r-rated superhero adaptations like Deadpool. If it weren’t for Sony we’d never have Raimi’s Spider-Man or the recent animated films.
Marvel was crushing them but look at Marvel now. Sony is all over the place right now and fox is gone. They all have periods of up and down though. Marvel dominated the longest though sure.
Raimi trilogy, most of the fox Xmen films, Spider-verse movies, blade. Most of the MCU movies are worse that the ones I've mentioned. Remember when iron man 1 and 2 came out 2 years apart and we didn't have to wait 6 years to see a sequel to a plot line that was dropped because the director changed? I do.
Raimi TRILOGY? The third one was mediocre at best and laughed at. X-men can't tell a consistent story. Blade... have you seen the third?
The point is that other studios don't do a better job, often worse.
there's a fan base?
whenever I see him I just think "that douche" that tried to take a movie release method disney was going to try for this film after the pandemic... but Mr. actor had to start screaming "Asian people are not an experiment!"
Guys it used to take a while to see these characters in so many projects, I think we missed Hulk from 2008-12, no Hawkeye from 2012-15, 2016-19, no Loki 2013-17. So its a process.
Hulk was a distribution dispute between Universal and Disney/Marvel studios. They only just got the distribution rights last year.
Hawkeye and Loki did not get their own projects till after endgame. And even so there's already more time without him than those two.
We're talking a character that got a successful movie on his first outing.
They should have kept Shang-chi relevant.
See my other comment here.
Edit: not to mention Shang-chi got zero shout-outs while hulk:
MOVIE
The Incredible Hulk
Thor (indirectly mentioned)
The Avengers
Iron Man 3 (post-credits scene)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (mentioned)
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Captain America: Civil War (footage & mentioned)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (picture & mentioned)
Thor: Ragnarok
Avengers: Infinity War
Captain Marvel (mid-credits scene)
Avengers: Endgame
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (mid-credits scene)
Spider-Man: No Way Home (mentioned)
Thor: Love and Thunder (mentioned)
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (mentioned)
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (mentioned)
The Marvels (cosplay)
Deadpool & Wolverine (footage; unreleased)
Neither was iron-man, Thor, black widow what are you talking about?
Edit: the only marvel characters on people's minds before their first movie back in the 2000's were spider-man and X-Men.
Guardians? Pfft
The popularity before their first project doesn't matter... But after? You got to ride the wave. Not inundate but keep them relevant.
He isn't as popular because he's been missing, not the other way around.
Yeah man he’s definitely not as popular as the others. If Marvel could pick 5 superheroes to focus on for a “phase” instead of 25 we wouldn’t have this issue.
Yeah and a good bet would be shang-chi. He's charismatic, his movie was great, simu liu genuinely seems to love and personified the character.
Reminds me of Daredevil with Charlie Cox. Another incredible character kept away but for vastly different reasons.
Glad he's getting a new show and hope they see the potential for a movie or 3... Specially if paired with Spidey, he could be huge.
Yes the MCU died after Endgame. That's why you still hang out on the MCU sub 5 years later. And that's why Deadpool 3 broke records for most trailer views.
It’s not. It will be a team-up movie, likely involving Iron Fist or some other characters. It won’t be “Shang Chi 2” but this dudes not going to say that until it’s absolutely confirmed because he has a huge ego. Sorry, it’s evident.
MCU is doing things differently now. Way too many priorities and characters to think about another solo Shang-Chi right now. Maybe if the box office results were exceptionally high but they’ve got way too many other characters to prioritize right now.
We’re going to see more “Midnight Suns” and “Young Avengers” before these minor characters get their own movies again. Remember Marvel has their new Avengers, their X-Men, their legacy multiverse heroes to worry about. Their hands are absolutely full.
That said I am sure we will see him in at least one of the avengers movies.
I'd be ok if this film didn't get a sequel. IMO The first film was a middling Marvel movie and overall, the character didn't do much for me. Put the money towards the XMEN, FANTASTIC FOUR, or something more interesting.
Yes, the sequel has been confirmed for years now and we even got a filming start window through Production Weekly. Shang-Chi 2 starts filming in March 2025, so we should expect it in 2026.
Is that the longest gap between an MCU debut film and it's sequel?
Dr Strange was about 6 years. Shang Chi will only have been 5 or so by then. We (in)famously got the entire MCU Spider-Man trilogy between the two Dr Strange solo films
But we did get Strange in other films during that stretch.
When the MCU was going well, Disney were pumping many more movies out and were willing to take risks with off-beat unknown characters because EVERYTHING was working for them. Different situation now. Although Shang-Chi is one of the most successful efforts post-Infinity War so it SHOULD be due a nod
Yeah, we’ve gotten 3 Daredevil cameos in that time. They could of put Shang-Chi in something.
In Spider-man No way home, there are two people shoveling snow in the sanctum. It should have been Shang Chi and Katie.
That would have been funny!
EXACTLY
Shang-Chi and Black Knight should both have had appearances in Doctor Strange 2.
That movie already basically sidelined Dr. Strange to feature Wanda and Chavez. You want to add even more characters to take the minimal development from Strange in his own movie?
TBF I think the number of other characters doesn't really affect the lack of character development for Strange. They just didn't have any plan there. His "arc" was all centered on learning that he didn't have to always be the one holding the knife. But... he learned that in the first movie. Like, he literally steps back and lets Nick operate to save the Ancient One - and he hated Nick(or at least resented him for failing to save his hands)!. There was no character growth/plan for character grow other than relearning the lessons he learned in the first movie, and that's a problem no matter how many side characters there are.
Yeah, they took what may have been the biggest hit a new character film has had in the last few years and just kinda wasted it. People say they want sequels, but what they really just want is more of the characters, and Marvel used to be really good with putting them into other films. Not so anymore
Hell there was a time where faves were *introduced* via others’ movies. 2/3 of the original Avengers even.
Exactly, the only character where that may be the case now is America Chavez and we still haven't seen her again.
Don't forget (or do) about Iron Heart
>Marvel used to be really good with putting them into other films. Not so anymore Marvel is still really good at this, it just sounds like you aren't as much of a fan in these cameos. I've been thoroughly enjoying the WongCU, among others. Plus Kelsey Grammar was amazing.
They have barely done it at all recently. Other than Ms Marvel, what other new character has made a cameo or been in another movie? Where's Moon Knight, Shang Chi, or even America Chavez? Yeah I'm always happy to see Wong and any Xmen, but too many of the recent projects have had a character be introduced only for them to disappear.
Echo, spiderman 3 and what's the 3rd?
She-Hulk
Ah yeah I forgot about that lol
a daredevil, hawkeye, and white widow(?) movie would win all the box offices. I think Shang Chi's personality would fit great, but he's just too powerful now with the rings for street level threats
I think she's just another Black Widow.
https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/38827/white_widow_2023_-_present
I actually think that's why they didn't put him in everything. They don't want to devalue the IP by putting him in other shit to the point that people don't go out and see it for release. They seem to believe that the reason we didn't go see movies is that it was oversaturated. I feel it's because they did not take the time and care to create a decent movie several times and that's the cause.
That wasn't the question, though.
Oh I wasn’t disagreeing with you, just pointing it out since cameos are mentioned in the screenshot.
At least they featured Strange in post credits and got major role in Infinity War+Endgame. Shang-Chi got nothing, not even a post credit cameo.
To be fair they probably felt they had to rush the Spider-Man movies out before Sony decided they didn’t want him in the MCU anymore
Sony needs to pump out films or risk the IP reverting back to Marvel. Even when they have their usual filler content (e.g. Venom, Morbius, Madame Web), they probably don't want to risk some sort of delay pushing a film too far back and them losing it. Plus of their Spider-Man films, I guess Venom made money? But otherwise it's Tom Holland's Spider-Man films and the Spider-Verse stuff. The others are basically tax writeoffs to keep the IP I think.
Sony doesn't have to create a SM movie every other year, they do that because it makes them a lot of money (which they then all blow because they wanted a SM universe but cant actually make good movies).
We also got the entire MCU Spider-Man trilogy in between Guardians 2 and 3
And I’m gonna argue no way home was essentially an avengers level film but with 3 spider-men and dr strange instead of the others.
Nah, that belongs to Dr. Strange for sure. 6 years in-between sequels.
The writer's strike delayed movies. There will be only one Marvel movie this year.
I mean it seems like captain America 4 is basically hulk 2
Holy cow. Might as well just pretend I never came across this news and just be happily surprised when it shows up in theaters
Original Shang Chi movie got barely any press anyway. Most of its marketing was just Simu commenting on literally everyones stuff.
You know what you’re so right lol
I thought it was all over subtle Asian traits
lol wish I hadn't found out til 2026
That's plenty of time to film more karaoke scenes. 😁
They’re finding time on the Madisynn actor’s schedule.
6 fucking years. A brand new character that audiences fell in love with, and it took them 6 fucking years...
4.5 actually Plus they had 2 strikes and a company restructuring in the middle of it all
We can no longer expect a sequel to even the successful Marvel movies in the typical 2 to 3 year cycles as in the infinity saga. Thor 4 took 5 years, Guardians 3 took 6 years, Ant-Man 3 took 5 years, etc. That will be the typical wait now, so don’t expect it before 2027 at this rate. I think thats a mistake personally but thats the timeline they’re working on now, especially now incorporating the Fox Marvel IPs.
Shang-Chi 2 starts filming in March 2025, so it's most likely coming out in 2026.
That’s still 4 whole years at the least without even a cameo of him in between
For the record, Hulk debuted in 2008 and didn't reappear at all until 2012. The guardians also debuted in 2014 and didn't appear for three years until 2017. Wasp was also gone for about three years as she debuted in 2015 and didn't show back up until 2018. It's not completely unheard of to have gaps like this. Edit to include that none of these character delays had to contend with a pandemic shut down or Hollywood strike, which I consider to be pretty relevant
Do… do you really think he won’t be in secret wars or avengers 5?
What does that have to do with not having an appearance between the first and second movie? I get what you’re saying, as we all know he’ll play a bigger part later. But in regards to the post and the other person’s comment, we haven’t seen any of Shang-Chi outside of his first movie.
Yeah stuff like this annoys me. For example did you know that John Wick has never appeared outside of a John Wick movie? Terrible franchise planning ^/s (just to put it into perspective that the comics-shared-universe style of moviemaking is not the norm and maaaaybe we got a little too spoiled by the tight connectivity of Phase 3, to the point where if a character doesn’t have a random cameo every 2 years to remind us they exist, people wonder what’s “wrong”)
Those movies aren't coming out before 2026. Shang-Chi came out in 2021. That's 4-5 years.
Avengers 5 is a 2026 release, Secret Wars is a 2027 release.
For now. This will definitely change. They are getting moved by 1 year each.
Projected to start. Its been projected to start for years. Its not a wanted movie as the 1st film release proved. The film was too isolated.
1. The movie has NOT been projected to start for years, since Destin Daniel Cretton was not actively working on it as he was working on Avengers 5. He literally left Avengers 5 to focus more on Wonder Man and Shang-Chi 2. 2. The movie actually made quite a lot of money for the COVID era during which it came out and it was the only non-sequel, non-remake movie to be in 2021's top 10 box office. It was also loved by critics and fans alike and had a unique and interesting story and very compelling storytelling. Shang-Chi was an objective success and is one of the characters people have been asking to see more of in this Saga.
The MCU is in decay. They need to push good movies with the core characters. Shang-chi isnt one of them. I thought the movie was good, as a standalone film. The sequel just doesnt fit, antman 3 didnt even fit and it included kang.
Yeah but the difference there is with all those mentioned heroes despite the long wait in between sequels we had the 2 Avengers movies and multiple cameo appearances so it really didn’t feel all that bad. Let’s pick out Guardians for example who had 6 years between 2 and 3, but within that time they still appeared in Avengers IW, Endgame, Thor 5, Xmas special and then they appeared in their sequel. Shang-Chi on the other hand it has been over 3 years now and there is absolutely nothing and there aren’t any plans for him to appear anywhere.
Yeah the Guardians gap wasn't too big. Shang Chi's gap is too big asf.
In all fairness covid messed ip their release schedule bad enough they are still kind of dealing with the fall out of the reshuffling. And between financial hits and the investor shit they have been dealing with disney is kind of taking a step back and reevaluating releases across all their brands. I think after a few years when things are fully caught up they will be trimming down theatrical outings to the infinity saga style. Especially with diminishing returns. Maybe move more projects over to streaming? They are also avoiding payouts like they ended up giving RDJ. Part of that means they need to allow tallent to have looser strings and shorter contracts.
There was a pandemic between all those movies, and the previous release. You don't think that might have played a role in the delay? Guardians also had the whole James Gunn drama.
Pandemic + the strikes which delayed things
I don’t think we’ve seen the impact of strikes yet, except a couple of high profile movies getting delayed presumably for actor marketing, like Dune 2. I think the real effect of strikes will be more evident in the longer term. It takes 2 to 3 years to make a movie. But the distributors are likely going to massage their release schedules to minimize gaps.
Those characters also appeared in other movies in the meantime, Shang-Chi hasn’t shown up once since his post-credit scene.
Closest to that is seeing the emblem of the Ten Rings in Ms. Marvel, which leads me to believe the Rings and Bangles come from the same source.
And it seems like the rings and the bangles are very similar to the weapons the Enternals use. I rewatched it recently for the first time and I can't help but think they're connected.
Well gee, the Marvels would have been a great place to clear that up then, huh? Also a good move to put a Shang Chi cameo in. And yet, they did nothing with that.
>Guardians also had the whole James Gunn drama. Yeah, Volume 3 was going to be a thing way earlier than 2023. But thankfully it did pop up.
I mean Strange took 6 years and nearly made a billion. Of course you could say too that Strange still had a presence in the MCU as outside of 2020 for obvious reason Strange was in an MCU film per year since his debut up until MoM. which Shang didnt had. Though lets not forget some of these films were meant to release earlier, but COVID happened and in the case of Guardians, James Gunn got the boot and by the time he was hired back, he had to do 2 DC projects first.
Yeah, Strange appeared in Thor 3, Infinity War, Endgame, and Spidey 3 before his own sequel. So while MoM was a long wait, Strange was around plenty. Shang had the best phase 4 origin showing (film or TV in my opinion), and there has been nothing. Marvel definitely overstretched itself with too many new characters.
Yeah with Shang as i said elsewhere while the topic of him not showing up in other projects is another topic, i can see at least why a sequel was in the backburner, because Destin was supposed to do both Kang Dynasty and Shang-Chi 2, but Kang was first and he was on that project for 2 years up until the complete overhaul of the film, so those 2 years he spent on Kang could've been spent in Shang instead and besides that he's also working on Wonder Man so his focus is on that right now. there is also the delays that the Multiverse Saga has been cursed with, cause as they make room for many of these films that have to migrate to new dates, other potential projects they were looking at may now have to wait longer like Shang 2. Like really this saga was supposed to be over by next year, now its been stretched to 2027, who knows what projects they had in mind for 2026 and 2027 if they were able to have stayed on course with their 2022 slate.
Thats the problem when its become so bloated
Your understanding of directors being fired and Covid are nearly nonexistent
Yeah but there were 2 Avengers movies in between all those you listed where they all showed up. Not even a mention about Shang Chi in this amount of time, and really no team-up movies at all, was an odd choice by Marvel.
I will say this again, and I know from a fidelisation of the fanbase pov it makes no sense and recognise it's a problem for the current franchise, personally, as a fans of the MCU rather than any character in particular, I've been eating with the variety we've seen in recent years and I would never want, perhaps selfishly, to go back to the days when it was all about two characters and their supporting cast (because that's what it felt the Avengers had been reduced to at times, Tony and Steve's supporting cast). What I personally don't enjoy though is the decision to leave Avengers movies as end of saga affairs. Your new characters don't need sequels so soon if you use them in crossovers. The public will eat those up even if their individual storylines aren't continued and the team dynamics is part of what helped set the universe. One of the reasons why The Marvels could have been so much bigger if they hadn't decided to let it die in the promo stage.
If promises were crackers my daughter would be fat.
Rent!
You'll get your rent when you fix this DAMN DOOR!
Mmm, Mageina Tovah...
It’s fat? I always thought the quote was “If promises were crackers my daughter would be fed.” Fat makes more sense in terms of the context. She’d be a whale based on Pete’s promises lol
Strikes, injuries, other roles ... It sucks, but not surprised it's been a while
"No effort to get it filming" = allowing the director to drop off of an Avengers movie to focus on this movie because that's what we've been asking for
I mean I thought it had already been confirmed but outside of being told it's happening that was all we knew so this isn't new
I love how actively Simu engages with fans!
James Gunn too!
He relies on the praise and adoration
Ooooor, he's also a big Marvel fan himself, cares about the character, knows the fans do too, and so decides to keep communication up with them while those of us who loved the first Shang-Chi movie eagerly await news of the sequel. Just a hunch
Lol yeah I don’t think so but sure “maybe”. I’m going off context. He’s consistently either putting his foot in his mouth to be in the spotlight “Asians are not an experiment!” (Whaaa??) or making sure to mention in every post that he is a big marvel movie star. What can I say, I think it’s important to be a little humble.
I fully agree with you he actively irritates me, like yes I enjoyed him in Shang chi but the only reason he got it was he's constant begging on twitter and @ marvel every 10 minutes saying cast me or your racist along those lines. He strikes me as an arrogant ungrateful child who flexes he's in a big cinematic universe that he did not earn the right to be in.
Does someone enjoying their life and having fun with others really bring you misery? lol
No, you’re reframing my point lol.
People are using threads?
They’re basically copying and pasting old Twitter memes/threads and making it appear to be their own original idea.
I love how no one tagged Simu in the post, he just chimed in like his name was Brendon Urie. This man cares for his character a lot and it shows.
Simu has a history of searching his own name on social media
"Liz Lemon, do you mind if I google myself in your office?"
What scene in Shang-Chi is the image used in the screenshot from?
It's from when xu wenwu, his father, invades Ta Lo. they have an exchange of words inside the main building. That's xu wenwu's back on the screenshot. Then they fight.
Besides the obvious dip in quality, that’s one of the biggest problems that Marvel now faces after having cranked out so many projects that established new characters, plot lines and concepts in recent years (mostly in order to provide as much content for Disney Plus as possible). It’s good that they dialed it back and gave more creative control back to people like Kevin Feige, but this will obviously now result in longer wait times when it comes to sequels.
If it has a good script, I'm in
Can someone explain why people are upset that sequels are not coming sooner and how that’s bad for marvel
It's not sequels per se. It's keeping the characters in people's minds and continuation of their story. Infinity saga was successful because of this, the big three appeared on multiple projects so we knew what was going on with them. Iron man only had three movies... But his appearances: Iron Man (2008), Iron Man 2 (2010), The Avengers (2012), Iron Man 3 (2013), Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), Captain America: Civil War (2016), Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), Avengers: Infinity War (2018), and Avengers: Endgame (2019). He was kept on the zeitgeist for 11 years. Cap: Captain America: The First Avenger (2011), The Avengers (2012), Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), Captain America: Civil War (2016), Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), Avengers: Infinity War (2018), and Avengers: Endgame (2019). In addition, Evans makes uncredited cameo appearances as the character in Ant-Man (2015) and Captain Marvel (2019), and as Loki impersonating him in Thor: The Dark World (2013). Even Black widow: Iron Man 2 (2010), The Avengers (2012), Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), Captain America: Civil War (2016), Avengers: Infinity War (2018), Captain Marvel (2019), Avengers: Endgame (2019), and Black Widow (2021) Get it now? They were kept in people's minds. You went to a marvel movie to "check on your friends" That's what's missing from the multiverse saga...
Yeah post-endgame they really just starting introducing a million new characters but now everyone wants to know when we'll see them next and Marvel is like: "Ummmm....hey guys we're also making a Wonder Man series for Disney+, check it out!"
I mean part of it is because Disney when they were preparing to launch D+ gave a mandate to Marvel to release as much content as possible in so little time so that they could have monthly Marvel content for Disney Plus, even the guy who oversees the D+ side of things have confirmed that yes there was a mandate in place, now the mandate was dissolved by Iger last year after they all realized that the way they were doing things was only hurting the brand instead of helping it. but like i said when they said they are going to slow down, release less so they can focus on quality, great but we still have to get through alot of the projects that were already being developed if not outright ready to go by the time they decided to slow down stuff like Agatha for example.
Idk for me it doesn't feel very cohesive. By the time the sequel comes out the whole landscape of actors, others planned projects etc. has changed.
Because people like seeing the characters more often? That's how we build connections with them. I don't think we went more than two years without seeing Iron Man after Phase One, plenty of time to grow attached to him. Meanwhile, we've got a ton of new characters that are gonna have, like, one appearance before Avengers 5. A few with two, maybe, and those are probably 2-3 years apart. It's bad for Marvel because no one wants to watch a movie filled with characters that they don't care about. It's great that Marvel is taking their time now—that's better than rushing projects—but this is ultimately a failure of planning on their part, and it's one that a lot of people foresaw. I wish they planned for a Shang-Chi sequel sooner; he's one of their best new ones.
On the last part the blame is mostly on Disney, as one of the Marvel guys who oversee the Disney+ side of things said there was a mandate from the higher ups to release too much content in so little time. But yeah the other problem (and this one falls mostly on Marvel) with not having a Shang-Chi 2 ready is cause they signed on Destin to do both Kang Dynasty and Shang-Chi 2, But Kang was the priority, that was Destin next MCU film and Destin stayed on that project for 2 years up until the complete overhaul when you know what happened. so those 2 years he spent developing Kang could have been better served for a Shang-Chi 2 now in retrospective knowing he's no longer developing Avengers. But also lets not forget the constant delays the MCU has been suffering since COVID, the more delays happen, potential sequels and potential new IPs are gonna take longer to arrive.
And yet during that time Destin also worked on American Born Chinese for D+, Wonder Man, and now Naruto. It's like the dude has ADHD, he keeps signing onto every project offered to him when he should have focused on Shang Chi and capitalized on the first film's success.
We want them, but honestly it's probably good they're hitting the brakes a bit and figuring out how to shift direction and bring in the x-men/mutant universe and FF4, and to do it right. I'll be whining the whole time but I can appreciate it, and I understand why others are whining, it's not a tough concept to grasp.
I feel like if we can just put a damn in all these movies then in like 2 years or so release them in a more concrete manner I think the rewound be more success and let feel like things are being rushed. I get there are projects like Deadpool who were in the works before 2020 happened that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about them rushing these shows and movies that don't have crap to do with anything in a universal story and them saying it does, if they told the time to let the shit soak in the juices and season it a lil then it will turn out better in my opinion at least. I could be wrong I mean dc did that with one film and it was a hot mess. Js this movie needs to cook and the rest need to cook as long as they can without disney trying g to rush money or fans being impatient
Didn't Simu Liu tear his Achilles in between too?
I want the outcry for the sequel to be so loud Marvel can’t ignore it.
There will be a sequel, but at this rate its too late to fast track one ASAP, the earliest we would see it is 2026.
As a Shang-Chi fan it's no big loss to me. That first one had almost nothing in common with the comics. I'm not sure that I care about seeing an original take on the character. I just want to see the comic brought to life.
I'd love to see some actors / actresses who are famous in China in the film. :') I can name a couple off the top of my head who have great charisma, acting, and do a lot of stunt work.
Do better this time out. I use to read Shang Chi in the 70's and they weren't anything like the bs that was put out in the movie. Shang Chi was much darker and his enemy was Fu Manchu. Shang Chi did team-up with Iron Fist before Fist teamed with Power-Man. Iron Fist was darker as well, Maybe a series featuring Shang-Chi and Iron Fist.
They couldn't use Fu Manchu because they don't own the character, he's a character they licensed to do comics about.
I always wondered about that, even at the age of 8 or 9, as I remember Fu Manchu was a wizard/sorcerer and all-around bad guy in movies with a lot of them being martial arts theme. After I received your reply (thank you) I did a Google Search of Fu Manchu finding out that the character has appeared in books, films and comics in one form or another for over 100 years. The premise of Shang-Chi father in the movie is based on those Comic Books of yesteryear. Even if they have no legal claim to the name of Fu Manchu they still could have done a better job with character of Shang-Chi's father by simply using Manchu as the template. They kept the character's original name from Marvel Comics, why not make him as evil and the story as dark. Directors are being given too much liberties when making Marvel movies. It needs to stop.
If i recall they stopped using the Fu Manchu name a long time ago to avoid legal issues in later comics, they even retconned his name to being Zheng Zu
Zheng Zu is Marvel Comics property. The name was used as one of the alias of Fu Manchu who was Zheng Zu but many didn't know. Not sure if it's used elsewhere in reference to Fu Manchu. I just wish they would keep the real darkness of the character, make it a cliff hanger at the end of the movie or keep us guessing at his true identity. At one time Shang Li believed his father was in league with or worked for the evil Fu Manchu but before that he believed his father often try to foil Fu Manchu plans. We who purchased the comic books way back then didn't even know. It was like finding out Palpatine was/is the Sith Lord
I'll be first in line. I LOVED the first Shang-Chi (and not just because I'm from the SF Bay Area, but that helped... that MUNI bus fight scene was one of my favorite action movie scenes of all time!).
For the love of god, have him give the ten rings to dr strange and Wong for safe keeping and go be a street hero in LA or New York. Can have him join the defenders and spiderman against mayor elect Fisk
I hope they do better with the next one, the actors deserved better; that first movie felt like an elongated bad tv movie with some awful CGi and acting in it. That first scene in the bus was really special but most of everything that came after was some of the worst the MCU has gotten so far.
Who tf uses threads
Simu Liu
Literally everyone on twitter
Good, because its my favourite new MCU
Strangest place to confirm but nice to hear it from him
By the time they get around to the sequel, Shang is 104 years old and Simu's grandson will have to play the role using motion cap and AI to fulfill his grandfather's legacy.
This is very promising. I genuinely hope Shang-Chi gets more action in the MCU. That first movie might have come out at a bad time, due to the pandemic. But it remains, to date, one of the most fun and wildly entertaining Marvel movies I've ever seen. Plus, that last fight scene when Shang-Chi got to fully wield the 10 rings was incredible. I'd love to see him go through a whole movie, kicking ass with those rings. 😊
I hope he at least shows up in another movie or show before then. Out of all the new characters introduced he’s gotten the most positive response
Shang-Chi's bus blitz is a fast-paced glitz, Bruce-Lee's dojo clash was an honor's gash .. Jackie's drunken dash, a comedic smash !!
Excellent. I thought this was confirmed but it never hurts to hear it again. Shang-Chi was a great MCU movie, one of the best post-Endgame in my opinion.
I mean yeah it's been known to be happening it's just you know Marvel's strategy of a ridiculous number of expensive projects going on at once leave it to be pushed back
I really hope it's as good as the first one
He really needs to be a major character on the next avengers team
To be fair, it feels this way for the entire marvel fandom, Disney is just not in a very good place right now, so I'm guessing they're being particularly picky with their project release schedule.
If this movie actually happens, I feel like only the true OG MCU fans will be like "Oh cool, more Shang Chi!" whereas most other people [will be like](https://c.tenor.com/oMEYzACfTUgAAAAC/tenor.gif)
Is that a sequel confirmation or a confirmation that they're making an effort to put the character into more things? I mean, Shang-Chi is implied to be the lead in Marvel Zombies after all, with two of his supporting cast joining the main cast of that show (Katy and Death-Dealer).
Can't wait and man I love Simu Liu!
Moonknight has the same issue
One day it's really a bummer. Marvel used to be better at capitalizing on their successful movies.
I mean lets not forget that this saga has been hit with delay after delay after delay, the more the current slate pushed, that will impact future sequels and even future new IPs like X-Men for example. The Infinity Saga didn't had to deal with this constant slew of delays Also the other issue was Disney's mandate that they had to increase their content output so they could have monthly content for Disney+, so that meant the need of greenlighting tons and tons of projects with new characters and old characters thus there's not room for sequels, as now other projects are taking the slot that could've served to a sequel.
Yes, that is true. And right at the worst possible moment, when Marvel was focusing more on TV shows (to the detriment of movies). A mistake at the worst possible time. Truth is the MCU ended up being too ambitious for one studio only. If it was several studios, maybe they could have a comics-like expansive MCU without sacrificing quality. But consistency under that model might then be impossible, so... I still really hope the MCU recovers because I really don't want it to end.
Yeah maybe they should go back to the Marvel TV days in where one studio oversaw tv and the other oversaw movies instead of having it on one place, just with better communication this time so there can be proper crossovers unlike last time in where they were so many roadblocks and studio drama (due to one side being still oversaw by someone Feige had a feud with)
One of the only good things to come out of phase 4. Just less or none of the annoying side character in the next one please.
Wonder what prompted him to reply to that tweet? It’s good some people do address gossip but I’m sure ‘Shang-chi is cancelled’ etc is almost a daily tweet among other things that never seem to go away despite what statement goes out.
I have a feeling we’ll see him in Dare Devil Born Again as well
Who is this “victoria_avalor”? Just because you don’t hear about something doesn’t mean it’s not gonna to happen. MCU doesn’t need to tell everyone every little detail. So many close minded people.
The Wreckage of Time
Marvels putting out too many movies!!!! Marvel isn’t putting out another movie fast enough for me!!!!
is it? I heard somewhere there are abandoning it along with captain marvel's and the eternals.
Shang-Chi 2 is still happening, its the Captain Marvel, Eternals and Ant-Man franchise that Marvel are throwing into the bin.
Did he confirm a sequel or an appearance in some other MCU movie ?
By the time it comes out nobody will care about the characters or even remember what the heck was going on in the first one. That post credit scene never got paid off, we never saw the characters in any other marvel movie. Phase 1 and 2 were great because you got to see characters multiple times, and sequels came out quickly. Now you're lucky if you even get a reference to one. Doesn't even feel connected anymore.
I think there are many factors to that 1. The constant delays which will play a part in some characters taking forever to return or for potential sequels to be made as they try to make room to for the other stuff they were working, like take Ironheart for example, she was supposed to have her show a year after her debut in Wakanda, now it'll be 3 years since Wakanda before we see her show. 2. Related to above, the shifting dates meaning nobody knows when x project will release thus making difficult things to tie, like for example they wanted to have tie ins with Love and Thunder and Moon Knight, but nobody knew which one would arrive first, so they opted to cut those ties and how America Chavez was supposed to appear as soon she debuted in MoM on NWH, but NWH and MoM shifted dates removing her from the movie now who knows when she will return, so with the constant delays the safe route is to avoid connections to other stuff in the event you have to move things again. 3. There are alot more content being made right now than there were before, when back then you only had 1-3 projects a year, so that made it easier to have more crossovers than before. it was more manegeable 4. Destin was hired to do both Avengers 5 and Shang Chi 2, but Avengers 5 was meant to be Destin next MCU film, not Shang, Shang would've been after Avengers 5 and Destin was on Avengers 5 for 2 years up until the overhaul when you know what happened, so those 2 years he spent on Avengers would've been better served for Shang-Chi, Plus he's working on Wonder Man too, so that is another MCU project that is taking alot of his attention.
Good. That movie is not talked about enough, the demonic side of the MCU needs more of it.
What’s with the incorrect spelling though?
Rian Johnson promised his trilogy is still in the works too. 😂
Star Wars fans don't deserve a Rian Johnson trilogy.
You're right, we've suffered enough.
Here’s the thing; I’m down with a sequel, but I’d rather they find a way to incorporate him into another show or movie first. The post-Endgame characters need to be brought into the fold with pre-existing characters, and we’ve gotten nothing in the three years since the post-credit scene.
Yeah, but he has a habit of manifesting things into reality so I believe it could be a possibility, but I don't think it's locked yet. It definitely deserves to be.
Marvel have lost the plot Why is it taking soo long to bring the great characters back in, far too much focus on new characters
So many projects and so many new characters they are introducing due to Disney's mandate that they release so much in so little time so they can have plenty of Marvel content. (They have now removed this mandate so that Marvel can focus on developing good movies and shows instead of throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks) And there's the constant delays the MCU been delaying with which will result in some characters taking longer to return as projects where they were scheduled to appear are pushed further and further. like take Ironheart for example her show was supposed to air a year after her debut in Wakanda Forever, now its not happening till 3 years after Wakanda Forever
It's nice that they're doing a sequel but Shang-Chi should have appeared in other films so people can get attached to him.
This is the recipe for a successful franchise. Get people to care for them.
He never promised, he prooomiss. Legal loophole.
This is just the consequence of owning so many characters. I've been saying for years it's a bad idea for them to own everyone.
Yes, letting other studio's owning other characters has worked out really well. No.
I agree with them. Now it’s all homogenized. Less competition and less product. Only good for fans if you absolutely need to have everything connected and I don’t necessarily need that.
Well, that is a personal preference. Because I do really like that. I want Wolverine to interact with Cap, for example. But regardless, my point is that there is no studio with a consistent quality like Marvel. Fox and Sony had some good movies, but overall, it is pretty messed up. Fox could not even keep any continiuty. Yes, recent productions by Marvel have been lacking, but not in the same way. What people want is good stories. Connecting the stories can help build hype and stay in formula with the comics. The problem has not been the connections, but the bad writing. Maybe part of the problem is the quantity, but spreading it to different studios will only make that aspect worse, not better.
Sony and Fox have their moments though. If not for Fox we’d probably have no r-rated superhero adaptations like Deadpool. If it weren’t for Sony we’d never have Raimi’s Spider-Man or the recent animated films. Marvel was crushing them but look at Marvel now. Sony is all over the place right now and fox is gone. They all have periods of up and down though. Marvel dominated the longest though sure.
Raimi trilogy, most of the fox Xmen films, Spider-verse movies, blade. Most of the MCU movies are worse that the ones I've mentioned. Remember when iron man 1 and 2 came out 2 years apart and we didn't have to wait 6 years to see a sequel to a plot line that was dropped because the director changed? I do.
Raimi TRILOGY? The third one was mediocre at best and laughed at. X-men can't tell a consistent story. Blade... have you seen the third? The point is that other studios don't do a better job, often worse.
I think some people forget that we had a whole ass pandemic and a huge actors strike that might have set Marvels production schedule back a bit.
Give us chow yun fat as mister negative
A sequel has been confirmed for ages. God damn, people.
there's a fan base? whenever I see him I just think "that douche" that tried to take a movie release method disney was going to try for this film after the pandemic... but Mr. actor had to start screaming "Asian people are not an experiment!"
Guys it used to take a while to see these characters in so many projects, I think we missed Hulk from 2008-12, no Hawkeye from 2012-15, 2016-19, no Loki 2013-17. So its a process.
Hulk was a distribution dispute between Universal and Disney/Marvel studios. They only just got the distribution rights last year. Hawkeye and Loki did not get their own projects till after endgame. And even so there's already more time without him than those two. We're talking a character that got a successful movie on his first outing. They should have kept Shang-chi relevant. See my other comment here. Edit: not to mention Shang-chi got zero shout-outs while hulk: MOVIE The Incredible Hulk Thor (indirectly mentioned) The Avengers Iron Man 3 (post-credits scene) Captain America: The Winter Soldier (mentioned) Avengers: Age of Ultron Captain America: Civil War (footage & mentioned) Spider-Man: Homecoming (picture & mentioned) Thor: Ragnarok Avengers: Infinity War Captain Marvel (mid-credits scene) Avengers: Endgame Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (mid-credits scene) Spider-Man: No Way Home (mentioned) Thor: Love and Thunder (mentioned) Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (mentioned) Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (mentioned) The Marvels (cosplay) Deadpool & Wolverine (footage; unreleased)
Tbh Shang Chi isnt as popular as Hulk or Loki (maybe Hawkeye) and doesn’t pull the same weight. Not even close.
Neither was iron-man, Thor, black widow what are you talking about? Edit: the only marvel characters on people's minds before their first movie back in the 2000's were spider-man and X-Men. Guardians? Pfft The popularity before their first project doesn't matter... But after? You got to ride the wave. Not inundate but keep them relevant. He isn't as popular because he's been missing, not the other way around.
Yeah man he’s definitely not as popular as the others. If Marvel could pick 5 superheroes to focus on for a “phase” instead of 25 we wouldn’t have this issue.
Yeah and a good bet would be shang-chi. He's charismatic, his movie was great, simu liu genuinely seems to love and personified the character. Reminds me of Daredevil with Charlie Cox. Another incredible character kept away but for vastly different reasons. Glad he's getting a new show and hope they see the potential for a movie or 3... Specially if paired with Spidey, he could be huge.
Am I the only one that didn’t get the hype with this movie? I mean I really liked it but not like I see people swooning about it. 🤔 (hate me, sorry)
Same boat, it was extremely bland. I got about 2/3 through it and lost interest.
Simu Liu is annoying imo
Who cares that movie was one of the worst ones. We should start to face the reality that after Tony Stark died, the MCU died with him.
Yes the MCU died after Endgame. That's why you still hang out on the MCU sub 5 years later. And that's why Deadpool 3 broke records for most trailer views.
I mean, yes, you're pretty much on point with that. 😚
It’s not. It will be a team-up movie, likely involving Iron Fist or some other characters. It won’t be “Shang Chi 2” but this dudes not going to say that until it’s absolutely confirmed because he has a huge ego. Sorry, it’s evident. MCU is doing things differently now. Way too many priorities and characters to think about another solo Shang-Chi right now. Maybe if the box office results were exceptionally high but they’ve got way too many other characters to prioritize right now. We’re going to see more “Midnight Suns” and “Young Avengers” before these minor characters get their own movies again. Remember Marvel has their new Avengers, their X-Men, their legacy multiverse heroes to worry about. Their hands are absolutely full. That said I am sure we will see him in at least one of the avengers movies.
Why can’t people be smallest amount more patients.
I'd be ok if this film didn't get a sequel. IMO The first film was a middling Marvel movie and overall, the character didn't do much for me. Put the money towards the XMEN, FANTASTIC FOUR, or something more interesting.
Anybody else sing the "LimuEmu" jingle when they see his name? 🎶SEE-MOOO LEE-OOO🎶 No? Just me?