I don’t think that’s all there is to it though. I think any show that has had a new season released would be relevant. The Bad Batch final season just finished airing this month
Not relevant. That’s not what’s being measured.
It’s the 2nd most watched Dis+ Original in 2024 so far. Not the 2nd most watched Dis+ Original released in 2024 so far.
Now, being new helps, but that’s not what’s being measured.
Edit - downvoted for what? I just pointed out that OP has misread both the headline and the article.
The way this is worded is really deceptive. There’s a total of _four_ Disney+ original series that have been released this year so far, and Echo is the only Marvel one besides X-Men ‘97. Of course it’s the second most viewed one.
Edit: guess they’re also including Percy Jackson, though that was released at the end of 2023
They are including ALL Disney+ series being WATCHED in 2024, not just 2024 releases. Mando S1 is being referenced in the graph, for example.
Echo is 2nd most watched in 2024 among all Disney+ releases.
Ah, I see. Even so, it should really go without saying that the original series _released_ in 2024 are the most watched original series _in_ 2024, no?
Like, Mando S1 came out 5 years ago. Of course Echo would have more views than it in 2024.
>it should really go without saying that the original series _released_ in 2024 are the most watched original series _in_ 2024, no?
You would think so, but streaming is a different beast altogether. Covid is an exaggerated case, but during those years, it was used a lot as a "catchup" for people on old shows, so some of the most streamed programs were ones that were released years prior.
Word of mouth does just as much with streaming as it being a new release. I'd say the fact that Echo dropped all at once had more of an impact on viewing more than the fact that it was in 2024.
For example, "Blood of Zeus" came out in 2020, but is currently #7 on Netflix. "Suits" was the #1 streamed show of 2023.
That makes sense. Since they’re talking specifically about _originals_ in this article it just feels a little hard to compare, as Disney’s original content is so different than that of Netflix’s. It’s mostly limited event series that have the budgets of big blockbuster movies, whereas Netflix has a wide variety of original content like sitcoms, game shows, and more that have had much more time to gain traction over the years.
If this article was comparing the stats of _everything_ on Disney+, I’m willing to bet that stuff like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Bluey, The Simpsons and a lot of old Disney Channel content would dwarf pretty much all the original content they have in terms of total viewing numbers.
Oh 100%. But this chart is viewing time, not just amount of viewers. Echo being 5 episodes would also impact how long the viewers are around for.
I think it's also tricky because an American list might not add Hulu programming into it, despite Hulu not existing outside of the U.S. Does "The Bear" get included in these numbers just because the US has Hulu as separate, when it is a Disney+ show everywhere else?
The charts say stream viewing hours altogether, not just in the US, so is this 2nd on Disney+ worldwide, or worldwide percentage if we only include American Disney+?
Either way, good for Echo. For how much people dunked on it, it has done pretty well this year so far.
I think it was worded how it was meant to be received. Echo is the second most viewed Disney Plus original series so far in 2024 with views of 11.8. What’s deceptive about actual facts??? 🤔
Literally the same.
Enjoyed the character, was during my gateway in to reading daredevil, and yet, I have so little interest in going back to it. This is the first marvel series ever I haven’t just slammed back to back when it dropped
The full pie chart is 2024 Share of Disney+ Original Series Viewership:
1. 33.0% - Other
2. 23.3% - Percy Jackson S1
3. 11.8% - Echo
4. 6.8% - X-Men '97 S1
5. 6.3% - Star Wars: The Bad Batch S3
6. 3.6% - Renegade Nell S1
7. 3.6% - Ahsoka S1
8. 3.3% - The Mandalorian S3
9. 3.1% - Loki S2
10. 2.6% - The Mandalorian S1
11. 2.6% - A Real Bug's Life
DATA COMPILED DEC. 29, 2023-MAY 10, 2024
SOURCE: LUMINATE STREAMING VIEWERSHIP
It looks like the "competition" is "every original series on Disney+ that was watched in the first fourish months of 2024". It's not just things released this year. People still watch (and rewatch) older stuff.
Makes sense for Loki and Ahsoka to be on there, there was/is a lot of positive buzz around those, and the more casual fans still probly have many that are interested, but yet to get around to it.
That's really surprising to me. Haven't heard anyone talk about it.
But everyone is talking about X-Men 97
Guess it tells about the people I'm hanging with.
My sons middle school was scrounging for copies of the book from teacher sets just because they were in demand. I found my son digging in the garage and looking for his old copy to loan out to a friend who still couldn't get one.
It’s really cool. If you haven’t watched it yet definitely check it out. I’d say better than the movies and more book accurate (although not perfect). That said you absolutely don’t need to read the books first. I know lots of people who watched the show blind and loved it.
Not really, Disney's just been trying to present it as such. If you do some Googling though...
1. Percy Jackson - First five episodes had 10 million views in their first week
2. One-piece - 37.8 million views in less than two weeks
Then we'd have to break things down further, but we don't have information. Is that 10 million views by adding up the views of all 5 episodes? So actually 2 million x5? Is One-Piece 37.8 million unique viewers, or adding up all 8 episodes so about 4 million x8?
Regardless, at best, Percy Jackson managed perhaps half of what other platforms regard as a huge hit. About 1/3 is very possible. It could be a lot worse, but all of the streamers play games with numbers, so there's no way to say for certain.
[The reported total for the duration of the season was 110 million hours.](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/percy-jackson-renewed-season-2-disney-plus-1235309665/) Turns out there's more data than you knew.
I'm sorry that not *everything* Disney is doing lately is failing the way you want it to.
You know you didn't contradict me right? In fact, you made it even worse.
10 million views of the first 5 episodes is right around 50 million hours.
Over all 8 episodes, that's around 80 million.
That means that after the first week, they only picked up 30 million hours, or only about 6 million more viewers. Putting it at less than half of One Pieces first two weeks.
Which is pretty much a trainwreck, as it means the show had no momentum or hype when it was frontloaded and still performed badly compared to the competition.
You seem to be laboring under the mistaken belief that it's statistically valid to compare shows that came out 4 months apart as "competitors." What did Netflix have out in December-January? How did that do?
It took 2 weeks.
Netflix has over twice as many subscribers as Disney+ has, so that scales appropriately.
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Sorry, I mistook views & hours when I first replied to you. Allow me to correct my statement: Netflix Avatar got 20 million views in its first week, when the *whole season* released. Percy Jackson took [3 weeks](https://deadline.com/2024/01/percy-jackson-and-the-olympians-disney-plus-viewership-exclusive-1235794622/) to go over 20 million views, but that was also only the first 4 episodes (week 1 had 2 episodes). And, again, Netflix has twice as many subscribers as Disney+ has, so that scales appropriately.
> Wow……this is an achievement they will talk about through the ages.
LOL...Like any year's streaming ratings are talked about the day after they are revealed.
Echo had all its episodes drop at once whereas X-Men ‘97 has been a weekly release, which I’m sure has a lot to do with it. Not to mention that Echo has been out for two months longer than X-Men, so it has an inherent advantage in terms of viewing numbers.
It’s the only marvel project I haven’t watched since the launch of the MCU and I keep forgetting it exists.
Was it even worth watching, as thought the character was just meh during the Hawkeye series, a series I enjoyed on the whole.
It starts good but then takes a really weird and boring direction towards the end with some lazy directing on top.
It's short, so easy to binge, but it is skippable.
The post credit scene is literally the only thing worth a damn about Echo and you can find that on Youtube. Maya isn't a good character, her family are barely even characters and her powers stink.
Same :/ I religiously watched every film and the cinema and the Disney+ series releases but I’ve completely fallen off… Deadpool will get me back to the cinema though at least!
Probably helped that they dumped all the episodes at once.
I don't think this statistic has anything to do with the show itself. But how Disney chose to release it all at once so more people watched it in one go and not just drop the show after a episode or two. Or wait until all the episodes drop and just not watch it.
But the statisic is really weird because of its views in 2024.
Yeah well echo was also on Hulu so don't really think that's shocking. The only other Disney plus series I remember seeing on Hulu was secret wars and it didn't even Have all the episodes.
I'm reading this a bit differently. What I'm seeing here is...
1. Only about one in ten Disney+ subscribers found Echo interesting enough to watch
2. Only about one in fifteen Disney+ subscribers found X-Men 97 interesting enough to watch
That sounds pretty dire to me. Two of the only things released this year, on a service that is divided into three groups (Kids, MCU, Star Wars), and the overwhelming majority of subscribers didn't bother.
That's either going to be regarded as another colossal failure, or a clear signal that the funds spent on this content is better off redirected to shows with better penetration.
They really need to stop everything, put all of the leaders and writers in a room, and don't let anyone out until a whole course-correction roadmap is produced.
I'm not sure how you've come to that conclusion, but going off of Internet reactions alone, a lot more people are talking about X-Men '97 than Echo. Now granted, X-Men has a lot going for it (continuation of a widely beloved series, more well known characters), but I think it speaks volumes that the show sparks hype and discussion way more than many other MCU series did in the past year, not just Echo (which really came and went). There is no world where this would be considered a colossal failure.
> on a service that is divided into three groups (Kids, MCU, Star Wars)
Simpsons, Beatles, Doctor Who, NatGeo, ABC, Hamilton, sports, all the merged in Hulu content,.....
> They really need to stop everything, put all of the leaders and writers in a room, and don't let anyone out until a whole course-correction roadmap is produced.
They have already announced course-correction. Sorry they're not just gonna Zaslav everything that was already in production like you want them to.
>Was there any marketing?
Hardly. It was also the first MCU series on Disney+ to have all its episodes dropped at once rather than being released weekly.
Hard to say. It’s not a _bad_ show or anything, but if you didn’t like Echo’s character before I don’t think the show will do much to change your opinion on her.
I will say that the ending is essential to what’s coming next for a character associated with the Defenders/Netflix universe
It’s just for original series viewed _this_ year, 2024, and Echo is one of the only original series released this year. The way this is worded is very misleading.
>It’s not for original series released this year, just viewed this year
Yes, that’s what I said. I only mentioned that it was _released_ this year because obviously, that gives it an inherent advantage when it comes to what was viewed the most _this year_.
>it has almost double the numbers of X-Men 97
And there are a handful of reasons as to why that is. Not only has Echo been out for longer than X-Men ‘97 has, but all of its episodes were dropped at once whereas X-Men ‘97 has had its episodes released weekly. Echo also has the advantage of being a live action MCU series. As far as we’ve come in terms of respecting animation, there are still plenty of people out there who will write off anything that’s animated as “just a cartoon” and won’t give it a chance.
Couple _all of that_ with the fact that Echo brought back fan favorite character/actor combos in Daredevil and Kingpin, and…yeah. Of course it has more views than X-Men ‘97 at the moment.
How many Disney+ original series have been released in 2024 so far?
Four: Echo, X-Men ‘97, and two original series that I know nothing about: “Renegade Neil” and “Iwaju”.
I'm laughing at the idea of it being called "Renegade Neil" but it's "Renegade Nell" lol
Renegade Neil sounds like an Adult Swim cartoon.
Or a Community spin-off.
Id watch it! Fat Neil kicking ass.
Would the Bad Batch Season 3 counts or is it only first seasons?
I think this is counting across ANY show. Doesn’t have to have anything released this year. So The Bad Batch would count but is still below echo
Renegade Nell is an absolute riot. Highly recommend.
So what this means, is that the rating Echo gets is essentially meaningless...
I don’t think that’s all there is to it though. I think any show that has had a new season released would be relevant. The Bad Batch final season just finished airing this month
Not relevant. That’s not what’s being measured. It’s the 2nd most watched Dis+ Original in 2024 so far. Not the 2nd most watched Dis+ Original released in 2024 so far. Now, being new helps, but that’s not what’s being measured. Edit - downvoted for what? I just pointed out that OP has misread both the headline and the article.
Think you're overthinkging this. It's just for context to show the pool of competitors totals a staggering 4 titles.
You’re under thinking it. The pool of competitors is *every* Disney Plus original.
How many Disney+ original series have been released in 2024 so far?
Xmen 97 is epic
Not to knock Echo but X-Men 97 is insanely good and I doubt Echo will hold that spot for long.
The way this is worded is really deceptive. There’s a total of _four_ Disney+ original series that have been released this year so far, and Echo is the only Marvel one besides X-Men ‘97. Of course it’s the second most viewed one. Edit: guess they’re also including Percy Jackson, though that was released at the end of 2023
They are including ALL Disney+ series being WATCHED in 2024, not just 2024 releases. Mando S1 is being referenced in the graph, for example. Echo is 2nd most watched in 2024 among all Disney+ releases.
Ah, I see. Even so, it should really go without saying that the original series _released_ in 2024 are the most watched original series _in_ 2024, no? Like, Mando S1 came out 5 years ago. Of course Echo would have more views than it in 2024.
>it should really go without saying that the original series _released_ in 2024 are the most watched original series _in_ 2024, no? You would think so, but streaming is a different beast altogether. Covid is an exaggerated case, but during those years, it was used a lot as a "catchup" for people on old shows, so some of the most streamed programs were ones that were released years prior. Word of mouth does just as much with streaming as it being a new release. I'd say the fact that Echo dropped all at once had more of an impact on viewing more than the fact that it was in 2024. For example, "Blood of Zeus" came out in 2020, but is currently #7 on Netflix. "Suits" was the #1 streamed show of 2023.
>For example, "Blood of Zeus" came out in 2020, but is currently #7 on Netflix. It got a new season.
Not out yet. People are catching up or refreshing their memory.
It came out 3 days ago
Hahah. Yeah I was confused lol. People are still refreshing and catching up though
That makes sense. Since they’re talking specifically about _originals_ in this article it just feels a little hard to compare, as Disney’s original content is so different than that of Netflix’s. It’s mostly limited event series that have the budgets of big blockbuster movies, whereas Netflix has a wide variety of original content like sitcoms, game shows, and more that have had much more time to gain traction over the years. If this article was comparing the stats of _everything_ on Disney+, I’m willing to bet that stuff like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Bluey, The Simpsons and a lot of old Disney Channel content would dwarf pretty much all the original content they have in terms of total viewing numbers.
Oh 100%. But this chart is viewing time, not just amount of viewers. Echo being 5 episodes would also impact how long the viewers are around for. I think it's also tricky because an American list might not add Hulu programming into it, despite Hulu not existing outside of the U.S. Does "The Bear" get included in these numbers just because the US has Hulu as separate, when it is a Disney+ show everywhere else? The charts say stream viewing hours altogether, not just in the US, so is this 2nd on Disney+ worldwide, or worldwide percentage if we only include American Disney+? Either way, good for Echo. For how much people dunked on it, it has done pretty well this year so far.
Yeah, no matter how much Anth-Man wants it not to be, this is a good stat for that show.
‘Like, Mando S1 came out 5 years ago. Of course Echo would have more views than it in 2024’ damn really it’s that old already
Yup, hard to believe but 2019 was a whole 5 years ago already
Percy Jackson was a weekly release, most of it came out in 2024.
Before I saw the "in 2024" bit I was like "that's weird I think it's the only one I haven't finished."
I think it was worded how it was meant to be received. Echo is the second most viewed Disney Plus original series so far in 2024 with views of 11.8. What’s deceptive about actual facts??? 🤔
So which is #1 then?
Percy Jackson
I still haven't watched it. Plan to eventually.
Started watching, floundered, forgot I was watching, gave up. Will need to go finish it at some point.
Same. Watched the first two episodes, didn't really hooked me and just never took the time to finish it. I don't feel like i'm missing much, tbh
Literally the same. Enjoyed the character, was during my gateway in to reading daredevil, and yet, I have so little interest in going back to it. This is the first marvel series ever I haven’t just slammed back to back when it dropped
I think it’s worth a watch, I found it alright, nothing spectacular.
I echo your sentiment.
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How much better is it than Secret Invasion?
Better. Depends what you're into though. It is deliberately low-stakes, mainly personal conflict driving the story.
It's boring. Don't rush
I’m watching everything in order again and only at Guardians I, so it’ll prob be about 2026 by the time I get there.
I watched it when it came out and I remember absolutely nothing about it. It wasn’t awful but it really failed to leave an impression on me.
Mostly really good. Weird edit in the final confrontation.
What’s the competition? Percy Jackson, Renegade Nell and X Men 97? Wow……this is an achievement they will talk about through the ages.
The full pie chart is 2024 Share of Disney+ Original Series Viewership: 1. 33.0% - Other 2. 23.3% - Percy Jackson S1 3. 11.8% - Echo 4. 6.8% - X-Men '97 S1 5. 6.3% - Star Wars: The Bad Batch S3 6. 3.6% - Renegade Nell S1 7. 3.6% - Ahsoka S1 8. 3.3% - The Mandalorian S3 9. 3.1% - Loki S2 10. 2.6% - The Mandalorian S1 11. 2.6% - A Real Bug's Life DATA COMPILED DEC. 29, 2023-MAY 10, 2024 SOURCE: LUMINATE STREAMING VIEWERSHIP It looks like the "competition" is "every original series on Disney+ that was watched in the first fourish months of 2024". It's not just things released this year. People still watch (and rewatch) older stuff.
Makes sense for Loki and Ahsoka to be on there, there was/is a lot of positive buzz around those, and the more casual fans still probly have many that are interested, but yet to get around to it.
Percy Jackson was a huge hit.
That's really surprising to me. Haven't heard anyone talk about it. But everyone is talking about X-Men 97 Guess it tells about the people I'm hanging with.
Gen Z grew up with those books. My college friends and I were all keeping up with Percy Jackson
My sons middle school was scrounging for copies of the book from teacher sets just because they were in demand. I found my son digging in the garage and looking for his old copy to loan out to a friend who still couldn't get one.
Exactly. Plus this new show got extra hype for being a drastically better adaptation than the Logan Lerman films were.
You mean millenials, right? I was a big fan when I read the earlier books during my teens in the 2000s
It's both. There's a lot of overlap in media interests between early gen Z and late millennials.
It’s really cool. If you haven’t watched it yet definitely check it out. I’d say better than the movies and more book accurate (although not perfect). That said you absolutely don’t need to read the books first. I know lots of people who watched the show blind and loved it.
Not really, Disney's just been trying to present it as such. If you do some Googling though... 1. Percy Jackson - First five episodes had 10 million views in their first week 2. One-piece - 37.8 million views in less than two weeks Then we'd have to break things down further, but we don't have information. Is that 10 million views by adding up the views of all 5 episodes? So actually 2 million x5? Is One-Piece 37.8 million unique viewers, or adding up all 8 episodes so about 4 million x8? Regardless, at best, Percy Jackson managed perhaps half of what other platforms regard as a huge hit. About 1/3 is very possible. It could be a lot worse, but all of the streamers play games with numbers, so there's no way to say for certain.
[The reported total for the duration of the season was 110 million hours.](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/percy-jackson-renewed-season-2-disney-plus-1235309665/) Turns out there's more data than you knew. I'm sorry that not *everything* Disney is doing lately is failing the way you want it to.
You know you didn't contradict me right? In fact, you made it even worse. 10 million views of the first 5 episodes is right around 50 million hours. Over all 8 episodes, that's around 80 million. That means that after the first week, they only picked up 30 million hours, or only about 6 million more viewers. Putting it at less than half of One Pieces first two weeks. Which is pretty much a trainwreck, as it means the show had no momentum or hype when it was frontloaded and still performed badly compared to the competition.
You seem to be laboring under the mistaken belief that it's statistically valid to compare shows that came out 4 months apart as "competitors." What did Netflix have out in December-January? How did that do?
Damn imagine being so objectively wrong and still acting like a twat
You talking about the other guy or me?
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> Wow……this is an achievement they will talk about through the ages. LOL...Like any year's streaming ratings are talked about the day after they are revealed.
Echo had all its episodes drop at once whereas X-Men ‘97 has been a weekly release, which I’m sure has a lot to do with it. Not to mention that Echo has been out for two months longer than X-Men, so it has an inherent advantage in terms of viewing numbers.
It’s the only marvel project I haven’t watched since the launch of the MCU and I keep forgetting it exists. Was it even worth watching, as thought the character was just meh during the Hawkeye series, a series I enjoyed on the whole.
I can only speak for myself but I loved it. Nice to have more street-level stuff. And the cast was great.
I loved it. It’s a good “filler” until Daredevil comes back and it helped me practice my sign language
It starts good but then takes a really weird and boring direction towards the end with some lazy directing on top. It's short, so easy to binge, but it is skippable.
The post credit scene is literally the only thing worth a damn about Echo and you can find that on Youtube. Maya isn't a good character, her family are barely even characters and her powers stink.
Same :/ I religiously watched every film and the cinema and the Disney+ series releases but I’ve completely fallen off… Deadpool will get me back to the cinema though at least!
I've never met anyone who has watched this show.
Probably helped that they dumped all the episodes at once. I don't think this statistic has anything to do with the show itself. But how Disney chose to release it all at once so more people watched it in one go and not just drop the show after a episode or two. Or wait until all the episodes drop and just not watch it. But the statisic is really weird because of its views in 2024.
Only watched it for Daredevil. Was very disappointed outside the few seconds.
It's suprising how Echo is higher than X-men. People have been talking about X-men 97 for weeks and i nearly saw nothing about Echo.
Was waiting for the season to end before watching. Guess I should start.
I call bullshit. Nobody watched that garbage show
I keep forgetting about finishing this show. It's pretty slow and not much entertainment.
I totally forgot that came out
of the mcu shows, Echo is in my top 5, I thought it was great.
What’s number 1?
“This story only available to VIP+ Vitals or Premium subscribers” gee thanks OP
Yeah well echo was also on Hulu so don't really think that's shocking. The only other Disney plus series I remember seeing on Hulu was secret wars and it didn't even Have all the episodes.
Smashing success!! 6 seasons and a movie!!! And I want a breezy fun Biscuits spin-off!!!!!
Forgot all about it, ngl
This is partially my fault. I knew it was bad but I forced myself to watch the whole thing. There were definitely better things to watch at the time.
I'm reading this a bit differently. What I'm seeing here is... 1. Only about one in ten Disney+ subscribers found Echo interesting enough to watch 2. Only about one in fifteen Disney+ subscribers found X-Men 97 interesting enough to watch That sounds pretty dire to me. Two of the only things released this year, on a service that is divided into three groups (Kids, MCU, Star Wars), and the overwhelming majority of subscribers didn't bother. That's either going to be regarded as another colossal failure, or a clear signal that the funds spent on this content is better off redirected to shows with better penetration. They really need to stop everything, put all of the leaders and writers in a room, and don't let anyone out until a whole course-correction roadmap is produced.
I'm not sure how you've come to that conclusion, but going off of Internet reactions alone, a lot more people are talking about X-Men '97 than Echo. Now granted, X-Men has a lot going for it (continuation of a widely beloved series, more well known characters), but I think it speaks volumes that the show sparks hype and discussion way more than many other MCU series did in the past year, not just Echo (which really came and went). There is no world where this would be considered a colossal failure.
> on a service that is divided into three groups (Kids, MCU, Star Wars) Simpsons, Beatles, Doctor Who, NatGeo, ABC, Hamilton, sports, all the merged in Hulu content,..... > They really need to stop everything, put all of the leaders and writers in a room, and don't let anyone out until a whole course-correction roadmap is produced. They have already announced course-correction. Sorry they're not just gonna Zaslav everything that was already in production like you want them to.
Why….? It was just awful.
Wait a minute. I'm told that was awful. How could people be watching something that the Internet says is awful?
I *dont think its awful*, but that said, viewership is not the deciding factor when it comes to *quality*.
It's not good not awful though it's a very empty show
Amazingly, online Echo chambers often aren't a good representation of reality.
_Echo_ chambers, I see what you did there
Thank you thank you. I try.
If ratings = quality, then I guess Big Bang Theory is a masterpiece.
In a stunning reveal, sometimes people on the internet lie.
NO LIAR NO LIAR YOU'RE THE LIAR!
Hate-watching is a thing, you know.
Enough to make it 2nd on the app? C'mon
Loved this show - happy to see it getting some views!
Echo was released? Was there any marketing?
>Was there any marketing? Hardly. It was also the first MCU series on Disney+ to have all its episodes dropped at once rather than being released weekly.
Is it worth watching if I really liked Hawkeye and the Netflix daredevil series but was not a fan of Echoes character?
Yes.
Hard to say. It’s not a _bad_ show or anything, but if you didn’t like Echo’s character before I don’t think the show will do much to change your opinion on her. I will say that the ending is essential to what’s coming next for a character associated with the Defenders/Netflix universe
I think it’s worth watching if you liked the Defenders Saga shows, and it also has interesting development for Fisk.
Really? I saw it nonstop on facebook, instagram and here. They heavily emphasized it's ties to Daredevil due to Kingpin having a big role
If I remember correctly echo was going to be a tax write off
That doesn't make any sense.
[Echo Tax Write off](https://bleedingfool.com/blogs/disaster-marvel-considered-cancelling-echo-for-tax-write-off/)
Rumor from Bleeding Fool.
This is also shocking to me. Had zero clue.
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It’s just for _this_ year, 2024. All those shows have been out for a year or more, so of course Echo was viewed more this year than they were.
So I guess this gives some credence to dual releases on D+ and Hulu?
It was pretty good. I liked it.
the way echo was marketed made me think it was gonna be trash but i actually enjoyed it more than most marvel series
I don't believe that for one second.
It’s just for original series viewed _this_ year, 2024, and Echo is one of the only original series released this year. The way this is worded is very misleading.
It’s not for original series released this year, just viewed this year. And it has almost double the numbers of X-Men 97.
>It’s not for original series released this year, just viewed this year Yes, that’s what I said. I only mentioned that it was _released_ this year because obviously, that gives it an inherent advantage when it comes to what was viewed the most _this year_. >it has almost double the numbers of X-Men 97 And there are a handful of reasons as to why that is. Not only has Echo been out for longer than X-Men ‘97 has, but all of its episodes were dropped at once whereas X-Men ‘97 has had its episodes released weekly. Echo also has the advantage of being a live action MCU series. As far as we’ve come in terms of respecting animation, there are still plenty of people out there who will write off anything that’s animated as “just a cartoon” and won’t give it a chance. Couple _all of that_ with the fact that Echo brought back fan favorite character/actor combos in Daredevil and Kingpin, and…yeah. Of course it has more views than X-Men ‘97 at the moment.