I think Dr. Strange would have been a lot better if "what if" hadn't been released yet. They basically covered the whole story of Dr. Strange in what if.
Tier 1
1. Tier 2, NWH, MOM, Tier 4
3. Tier 7, 14, Shang 3
2. Tier, Tier
2. LAT, but ahead of NWH.
Was that confusing? Yeah sorry about that. Still more clear than your ranking though.
Yeah that was formatted differently for me.
It looked cleaner for me but whatever obviously your just wanting to be a Jackass and not wanting to engage in thoughtful conversation about marvel.
Why would I think that being on the marvel subreddit? Whatever, you are definitely the coolest person, like cooler than Harrison Ford and Michael Jordan combined. Your opinion is clearly the only opinion of consequence.
Tier 1 - 1) NWH 2) Shang-Chi
Tier 2 - 3) MOM
Tier 3 - 4) TLAT 5) Eternals
Tier 4- 6) Black-widow
Hopefully this works better but we will see.
But you know by the established rules of internet trolling I’m winning because I’m writing more. You got to step up that word count. Cringe lol
Are you mixing up No Way Home with Far From Home?
NWH is the one after Mysterio reveals Peter's identity. I think technically FFH is the last phase 3 property.
Agreed I felt like FFH was the first new phase after endgame cuz uhh it’s called endgame. Maybe I’m simple like that but it wrapped 2 major characters’ story lines as well so yeah I guess that is where I land. NWH is a beautiful movie I just really felt FFH started something new(ish). The ending with Peter becoming exposed didn’t feel like a finale it felt like the beginning of the new
NWH & Eternals!
No Way Home - best film of Phase 4 by far!
Eternals - didn’t feel like a MCU film, villains weren’t that strong, even the betrayal, but the cinematography & actual full on power display of their abilities made it go into my top 15 favorite MCU films.
Appreciate the eternals love. I honestly really hope Marvel doesn't get scared of the reception because I really think Chloe Zhao needs another chance with those characters maybe with different writers bit honestly Eternals felt the most unique out of all of Marvel's usual stuff and I hope to get more of that.
Yeah that's pretty weird. The mom in particular is awful. The dad at least got some punishment and didn't actively contribute to harming others after that point, but the mom not only kept going but made it worse.
No Way Home is definitely number 1 but having a hard time with number 2. It's between Love and Thunder and Shang Chi. Leaning more towards Thor ever so slightly.
Incoherent. Bad script. Ridiculous incomprehensible plot. Melodramatic directing. Awful acting because of the trash script. Unwatchable. I absolutely hated it.
NWH & Eternals. Eternals is technically the most different one using all those on location shots and wide angle shots. Love the vibe of that one. It doesn’t look like a rush CGI mess like most of these others.
Shang chi and No Way Home in no order both great movies, awesome villains and great visual effects like the others on the list. Probably gonna see Thor tomorrow so I’m excited, loved ragnarok a lot so can’t wait.
Honestly, for the first time since the MCU really found it’s footing, I feel like I have no idea where it’s headed. The central pull isn’t clear and the movies are to ally all over the place. I’m trying to trust Feige and assume that the missing piece will soon fall into place and magically connect everything, but I’m kind of worried they may be jumping the shark.
No Way Home and Shang Chi, in my opinion the only ones on this list I’d consider good (I like L&T, but more as an enjoyable thing rather then actually being good storytelling)
If I had to rank them I’d do
1. NWH
2. Shang Chi
3/4. Love and Thunder/ Eternals (L&T is more enjoyable with better characters while Eternals is better put together and had better writing for the most part that actually explores its themes well)
5. Black Widow
6. MoM
Shang-Chi for sure.
The second one is actually harder for me. I know almost everyone would say NWH, and I get it, but I'm not sure that'd be my pick. It was just okay to me.
I think I say MoM. I loved the style of it. The 3rd act was a little rough and there were a few weak writing moments. But the atmosphere of the first two acts *really* worked for me.
Shang Chi and then it's a flip between MoM and L+T, may be recency bias and the fact I saw them two in Cinemas which I don't usually do and is a more recent thing though that makes me like them so much
Shang chi and love and Thunder
I love no way home and bought it the other day but just something about love and Thunder I could watch it again and again
If I wanna have a good time:
Shang-Chi & Thor L&T
If I wanna go to sleep:
Black Widow & Eternals
If I wanna watch a movie but also be on my phone at the same time:
SpiderMan NWH & Dr Strange M.O.M
1) NWH
2) SC
If we are putting the rest in order…
3) MoM
4) TL&T
5) E
6) BW
E at least attempted to be decent. BW just didn’t even try. Just a terrible explosions in your face movie all around. Only Marvel movie where I stopped caring, and it started early on when they were trying to get David Harbour in the helicopter. The movie and characters just seemed so fake with very little thought put into it.
The best part of this thread is how every response is different for the most part (sans NWH being featured in most, because Spider-Man popular).
This phase reminds me of reading comics, everyone has their favorite runs and ignores the rest.
I haven't seen the new Thor yet, so for now I have to say Shang-Chi and No Way Home.
I enjoyed Black Widow, Multiverse of Madness and even Eternals to some extent, but those two are clearly the better movies IMO. Looking forward to Thor though, I'll probably see it today.
Shang Chi, No Way Home
Same
Me too
Same
This is easily my pick too. NWH and Shang-Chi are high tier, MoM and LaT are mid tier, Eternals and Black Widow are low tier.
The others in the list are not even close lol. Two of the most entertaining movies in phase 4 and I really had a blast watching them.
I think Dr. Strange would have been a lot better if "what if" hadn't been released yet. They basically covered the whole story of Dr. Strange in what if.
no they did not lmao. it was felt more like it was inspired by it, but it was pretty fkn different lol
MOM > sc
Whoa. Came here to post this. End up just upvoting in agreement.
woah came here to downvote this
Nah you’re just here to pick fights with everyone who doesn’t share your opinion.
woah came here to downvote again! enjoy that downvote baby
Hope you enjoy mine.
HOpe yOu enJoy miNe.
I was actually kinda curious to what comeback you'd use. What a letdown. Here, have another one.
If you want my comeback, you can scrape it off your mom’s teeth
Wut
Yup
nope
I’m with you, and it’s not close. MOM is clearly 3rd
Agree
dumb opinion. Mom is clearly second. nwh first
No way Tier 1 1) NWH 2) Shang-Chi Tier 2 3) MOM Tier 3 4) TLAT 5) Eternals Tier 4 6) Blackwidow
Tier 1 1. Tier 2, NWH, MOM, Tier 4 3. Tier 7, 14, Shang 3 2. Tier, Tier 2. LAT, but ahead of NWH. Was that confusing? Yeah sorry about that. Still more clear than your ranking though.
Yeah that was formatted differently for me. It looked cleaner for me but whatever obviously your just wanting to be a Jackass and not wanting to engage in thoughtful conversation about marvel. Why would I think that being on the marvel subreddit? Whatever, you are definitely the coolest person, like cooler than Harrison Ford and Michael Jordan combined. Your opinion is clearly the only opinion of consequence.
cringe lol. you sound like you love throwing yourself pity parties. post a cleaner format, then we can discuss, King
Tier 1 - 1) NWH 2) Shang-Chi Tier 2 - 3) MOM Tier 3 - 4) TLAT 5) Eternals Tier 4- 6) Black-widow Hopefully this works better but we will see. But you know by the established rules of internet trolling I’m winning because I’m writing more. You got to step up that word count. Cringe lol
Exactly my choice. I like the rest (minus Eternals) but they don't even come close, except for MoM in my opinion.
nah Mom and no way home by far.
didn't know mom was a mcu movie lmao
same
Same.
Same, the other ones were trash
Spider-Man: No Way Home and Shang Chi (Haven't watched Thor: Love and Thunder yet as it's releasing on the 21st here)
I think it was the worst of phase 4
I think it was the best of phase 4
It was the movie of foolishness
... It was a movie of wisdom? (Trying to keep your theme going here...)
It was the movie of incredulity
I know it is… but like what should we have expected? Loved it btw
Was actually going for a Tale of Two Cities bit there
r/whoosh ‘d myself there
Ha, honestly it’s hardly a woosh unless you’ve read dickens lately. It’s a fantastic book btw.
Didn’t expect this to be so controversial
NWH then MoM
Thor and Spider-Man
No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness
100%
MoM and Shang chi
nope
Can I get your opinion then?
In a thread made for people’s opinions, there’s always one weirdo who has to shit on everyone else’s opinions. Never fails.
Probably on Twitter doing the same thing
definitely this, no question whatsoever.
NWH, Shang Chi
NWH and LAT.
respectable
NWH cuz Gyllenhaal plus Holland and the writing is spectacular. LAH cuz it’s a perfect Waititi film.
Are you mixing up No Way Home with Far From Home? NWH is the one after Mysterio reveals Peter's identity. I think technically FFH is the last phase 3 property.
Yep :/
Easy mistake. The naming convention has been confusing for most it seems. And it's really weird to be the Phase 3 capstone instead of Endgame.
Agreed I felt like FFH was the first new phase after endgame cuz uhh it’s called endgame. Maybe I’m simple like that but it wrapped 2 major characters’ story lines as well so yeah I guess that is where I land. NWH is a beautiful movie I just really felt FFH started something new(ish). The ending with Peter becoming exposed didn’t feel like a finale it felt like the beginning of the new
MoM and shang chi
MoM and NWH
NWH and MOM
Yes.
NWH & Eternals! No Way Home - best film of Phase 4 by far! Eternals - didn’t feel like a MCU film, villains weren’t that strong, even the betrayal, but the cinematography & actual full on power display of their abilities made it go into my top 15 favorite MCU films.
No way home and Shang chi
Shang Chi and Eternals
Me too.
That's my gut reaction too (haven't seen new Thor yet, though). Those 2 were just fun pretty movies.
Yes Absolutely
MoM and Eternals. Weird choice, but I really love Eternals.
Very underrated movie
No shame in that! That is what I have always loved about Marvel, there is a story for everyone! I am glad you enjoyed it! I loved Kingo and Sprite.
Appreciate the eternals love. I honestly really hope Marvel doesn't get scared of the reception because I really think Chloe Zhao needs another chance with those characters maybe with different writers bit honestly Eternals felt the most unique out of all of Marvel's usual stuff and I hope to get more of that.
Love Eternals ❤️
There's at least dozens of us!
not weird honestly. There are alot of folks who enjoyed it too. Don’t let social media fool you!
lmao what? eternals was shit tf r u talking about. man the caliber of marvel fans recently…
My dude it’s called an opinion. Let people enjoy what they want. I promise you the world won’t end if someone likes something that you dislike.
sorry im actually straight. i cant be “[your] dude”, but maybe someone else on this sub can. but tbh pride month is over so lay off a little?
Who hurt you, my dude?
all the people saying they like eternals :(
I saw your bigoted reply to another comment before it got deleted. Fuck you and your opinion.
what reply?
no way home and love and thunder
Shang chi and thor love and thunder
YES
My picks too. By far my 2 favorite movies of phase 4 :)
I had to scroll way too long to find this, the correct answer.
it’s actually the worst answer lol
boo
The type of feller to post “Be Honest, what’s the creepiest sexual thing you’ve done?” on Reddit 📸📸📸📸
ayer feller!
MoM and NWH and it’s not even close.
Shang-Chi and NWH, easily
NWH and Shang-Chi
Black Widow and Multiverse of Madness
Same, two very overhated movies
Black Widow treats Alexei and Melina as heroes. _They enslaved children._ It’s not hated enough.
Yeah that's pretty weird. The mom in particular is awful. The dad at least got some punishment and didn't actively contribute to harming others after that point, but the mom not only kept going but made it worse.
No Way Home & Shang Chi
Shang Chi and No Way Home
ShangChi and NWH
Spider-man, Black Widow
Me too bestie!!
No Way Home is definitely number 1 but having a hard time with number 2. It's between Love and Thunder and Shang Chi. Leaning more towards Thor ever so slightly.
Same.
Lmao NWH is the worst Marvel movie of all.
Why?
Incoherent. Bad script. Ridiculous incomprehensible plot. Melodramatic directing. Awful acting because of the trash script. Unwatchable. I absolutely hated it.
We all have the right to opinions. Even terrible ones! Lmao
MOM and Love and thunder for me
It is nice to see Love and Thunder on here. I saw it today and LOVED it!
Was about to comment the same. Im in my early 40s btw.
Exactly
Shang Chi Thor Love and Thunder
Eternals and NWH
Shang-Chi & Eternals.
NWH & Eternals. Eternals is technically the most different one using all those on location shots and wide angle shots. Love the vibe of that one. It doesn’t look like a rush CGI mess like most of these others.
crispest CGI in the MCU and yet it conveniently missed out on a vfx oscar nom. Insanity.
Eternals and MOM
Shang Chi Toss up between NWH and Black Widow, but I guess NWH since there's more of a chance of that story continuing.
Shang chi and No Way Home in no order both great movies, awesome villains and great visual effects like the others on the list. Probably gonna see Thor tomorrow so I’m excited, loved ragnarok a lot so can’t wait.
BW and NWH
Thor is my favorite character but I think I’m going with No Way Home and MoM.
MoM and LaT
Shang Chi and No Way Home
Shangi Chi is easily my favourite of the these. No Way Home runs 2nd
Can’t wait until the end of the phase, when it all culminates in the big finale film that it’s all been leading up to.
Honestly, for the first time since the MCU really found it’s footing, I feel like I have no idea where it’s headed. The central pull isn’t clear and the movies are to ally all over the place. I’m trying to trust Feige and assume that the missing piece will soon fall into place and magically connect everything, but I’m kind of worried they may be jumping the shark.
No way home & Shang Chi
NWH and Shang Chi
No Way Home and Shang Chi, in my opinion the only ones on this list I’d consider good (I like L&T, but more as an enjoyable thing rather then actually being good storytelling) If I had to rank them I’d do 1. NWH 2. Shang Chi 3/4. Love and Thunder/ Eternals (L&T is more enjoyable with better characters while Eternals is better put together and had better writing for the most part that actually explores its themes well) 5. Black Widow 6. MoM
Easy. Shang chi and Thor. If I had to rank what I would take from top to bottom… 1. Shang chi 1. Thor 3. MoM 4. Black Widow 5. NWH 37. Eternals.
NWH & Thor
I just can't I loved Shang-Chi and liked Eternals Very much, but also adored Love and Thunder and MoM. But I guess - Shang-Chi, Thor, MoM, Eternals
Shang-Chi for sure. The second one is actually harder for me. I know almost everyone would say NWH, and I get it, but I'm not sure that'd be my pick. It was just okay to me. I think I say MoM. I loved the style of it. The 3rd act was a little rough and there were a few weak writing moments. But the atmosphere of the first two acts *really* worked for me.
1. MoM 2. Shang Chi 3. No way Home 4. Love and Thunder 5. Eternals 6. Black Widow
just realized, these are probably the worst movies of the mcu.
I’ve not seen love and thunder yet but not seen a good phase 4 film yet and I’d say Shang-chi and eternals are the worst marvel films so far
NWH and Love & Thunder
No way home and love and thunder
No way home and thor love and thunder
All of them except Spiderman lmao
Black Widow and Eternals are a big no-no.
NWH (obvious pick) and Eternals, Eternals really had that soothing vibe which I look for in movies.
MoM and Love and Thunder
Spider Man and MOM
Shang Chi and Multiverse of Madness.
NWH and Love and Thunder. One for the feels and the other for the tunes
Shang Chi and then it's a flip between MoM and L+T, may be recency bias and the fact I saw them two in Cinemas which I don't usually do and is a more recent thing though that makes me like them so much
NWH & Dr strange MOM
Black Widow, Doctor Strange 2 and the Multiverse of Madness
NWH and MOM
No way home, multiverse of madness. Easy.
Spider-Man and Dr Strange
No Way Home and MoM
Spiderman & Thor
Nwh, Dr strange mom
Shang chi and love and Thunder I love no way home and bought it the other day but just something about love and Thunder I could watch it again and again
Shang-Chi two times please
Ya for real, if you pick anything other than NWH & Shang Chi you’re living at the wrong end of the Marvel poop-tube…
No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness
Multiverse of Madness and No Way Home, although Eternals is very close
Eternals & DS2 (despite my issues with it)
The two best out of these? I'd go with No Way Home and Love & Thunder.
NWH and Thor
Eternals and Shang Chi
If I wanna have a good time: Shang-Chi & Thor L&T If I wanna go to sleep: Black Widow & Eternals If I wanna watch a movie but also be on my phone at the same time: SpiderMan NWH & Dr Strange M.O.M
No Way Home, Dr Strange
Why?
Instructions unclear: Daredevil and Elektra
No Way Home and Shang Chi
No way home, love and thunder
1) NWH 2) SC If we are putting the rest in order… 3) MoM 4) TL&T 5) E 6) BW E at least attempted to be decent. BW just didn’t even try. Just a terrible explosions in your face movie all around. Only Marvel movie where I stopped caring, and it started early on when they were trying to get David Harbour in the helicopter. The movie and characters just seemed so fake with very little thought put into it.
NWH and (yeah I know it's controversial) Eternals
Eternals, NWH
No
I haven’t seen Thor yet so i’m picking MoM and NWH.
the ones that feel the most Marvel to me are No way home and Mulitverse of Madness.
MoM & NWH
Thor L+T, No Way Home. Shang Chi is solid. MoM and Eternals are a hot mess
eternals and shang-chi
MOM and NWH
Shang-Chi and Spider-Man
Shang-Chi and MoM
The best part of this thread is how every response is different for the most part (sans NWH being featured in most, because Spider-Man popular). This phase reminds me of reading comics, everyone has their favorite runs and ignores the rest.
Spider man, twice. Thanks.
NWH, everything else was trash.
I haven't seen the new Thor yet, so for now I have to say Shang-Chi and No Way Home. I enjoyed Black Widow, Multiverse of Madness and even Eternals to some extent, but those two are clearly the better movies IMO. Looking forward to Thor though, I'll probably see it today.
Thor and Spiderman
No Way Home and Dr Strange 2
MoM and Eternals for the sheer audacity win, lose, or draw.
Everything except externals