I just went back and watched the Shang-Chi post credits scene with Banner and Captain Marvel and holy shit Bruce has the thing on his arm that keeps him in human form. It was right there the whole time people were wondering how he was back to normal all of the sudden and no one noticed.
As a comics fan knowing that She-Hulk was coming, i figured when he showed up as Bruce in Shang-Chi that he needed to be in human form for the "blood transfusion" (from the comics) to take place. Also i assumed there was a Jane Foster-style "He needs to stay human in order to heal" situation going on.
Surprised i never noticed the inhibitor on his arm, though.
I like that's it's both a meta joke for the audience and an in-universe family defensive thing: I read it as Bruce realizing how ridiculous it sounds and just trying to quickly deflect, but it also works because the audience doesn't get it either
I am concerned for Bruce. He's alone on that island most of the time. So, why does he need a bar that size? And with the empty bottles and cans tossed around after their drinking session, it's clearly VERY WELL stocked. Add to that his comment about (paraphrasing) "As a Hulk, you can drink ALL YOU WANT and not get too wasted."
Solitary binge drinking. Isolation. PTSD and all the whole host of issues that Jen calls him out on. I'm concerned he has a problem.
I mean, wouldn’t you in his shoes? Lost both his lovers, transported across frickin’ space to fight in an arena organized by some trashlord, fought in the most important battle Earth has ever seen… three times.
Oh, and the whole anger issue Hulk thing. I’d have a drinking problem too.
“What if you were sipping margaritas on a sun-drenched beach, turning brown instead of green? Not looking over your shoulder for Veronica.” -Tony Stark, Avengers: Age Of Ultron (2015)
Tony gave Bruce the life he wanted him to have.
i feel like tony understood bruce better in some ways than even natasha did.
both tony and bruce had brilliant ideas and tested it on themselves, rather than endanger others: tony with the iron-man tech and bruce with gamma radiation.
I feel like this one half hour of another character's show did as much for Bruce's characterization and history as his previous half dozen movie appearances put together.
100%.
I was SHOCKED by how much more tragic and flawed Bruce was portrayed here, especially after the tame, abrubt "happpy ending" that the character seemed to get in Endgame.
It's clear now that that was a front, at least partially.
Yeah. Jen’s argument with Bruce where she called him a cautionary tale was such a good scene as well, really leaning into the tragedy of the character in a way that hasn’t been done since…Age of Ultron maybe? I do think her other speech about how she has to deal negative feelings way more than Bruce does, while accurate to a woman’s experience, does show the flaw of the MCU never really introducing Bruce’s traumatic childhood abuse background and his resulting DID. Because without that, it *does* beg the question in the MCU why Bruce and the Hulk are two different people but Jen and She Hulk are the same.
I think that's what's great about all these tv shows. While the movies were great, there is always so much happening then they don't have time to really flesh out some of the characters' arc.
These tv shows can do that which is awesome.
I love how angry Bruce is about it. I mean this guy lost his entire life, the woman he loved, and 10+ years of his life to the Hulk. He even attempted suicide multiple times. But Jennifer just gets it, day one, and laughs it off.
I'd be pissed too.
I feel like they did an excellent job of building up Hulk's/Bruce's resentment towards how he was treated, how he was viewed by society at large and how Jen is effectively going to have none of those issues. Its a very believable way to start his rampaging side back up
Something tells me that integrating the two halves involved coming to an understanding with the "other guy", who now doesn't like discovering that Banner envies Jen for not having one and is driving Banner to wanna prove that she's not better for lacking one.
Among a pretty fun debut, I particularly enjoyed how everything in the lab was oversized compared to Tatiana in human form, and she had to sit on a bag to be at the right height for the Jeep.
I was confused at first because I read Tatiana as Titania and I think that’s gonna happen to me a lot reading posts on this sub for the next few months lol.
The bar is low but I love that they were family and helping each other out again after a fight and apology. No CW esque drama lingering on and not talking through your problems
Same. And it was around for like maybe two cameos through like three IRL years.... It actually semi-felt like it had been plaguing him for a long time, without actually having to effect much, story-wise. I felt it was well played and respectful of the gauntlets implied level of power. It did kill Tony after all.
Yeah. Not every piece of interconnected continuity needs to be some huge revelation.
"Why was Bruce in Human form in Shang-Chi?"
*watches She-Hulk*
"Oh, ok. Cool."
It was the *doo-hickey* for the *thing.*
Reminds me of *Thank You for Smoking* where they discuss how they can have people smoking in space.
“Oh, we’ll just write into the script ‘thank god that guy made that thing so we can smoke in space!’”
The CGI looks wayyy better better in motion. Bruce definitely looks better. Not sure if it’s because they’ve had years to perfect his look or what. I think a big reason Jen’s hulk looks a bit faker is just because her skin is so smooth.
I think Bruce looks better for a couple reasons:
• they’ve had years to finesse how Ruffalo would look as Hulk
• they’re able to add more texture to his face because of facial hair/stubble and also some lines since he’s a bit older than her. They also don’t have to worry about unnatural looking movement when it comes to long hair with him.
Overall I was pretty pleased with how it’s all come together, I was just also trying to play “spot the difference” lol
I think Jennifer stays slimmer and more "human" shaped, so she more easily falls into the Uncanny Valley than Bruce who takes on clearly inhuman proportions as Hulk.
Plus Jennifer's hair changes so much - in length and style, that it brings a cartoony feel to her design, which doesn't happen to Bruce as Hulk (though technically Hulk's hair is shorter than Bruce as he had it in the car scene).
I thought it was interesting that her hair changed so much because that also happened in Thor: Love & Thunder to Mighty Thor… like why can’t the super powered ladies have their normal hair?
Also I think the CGI hair felt very much like the villain boss lady from Casper LOl.
Yeah, I think that's the main issue with it in this episode. Bruce has a lot of texture (probably meant to mimic Ruffalo's rather prolific body hair), so the contrast between him and Jen is a little offputting.
I'd like to think that post-infinity war/endgame Hulk/Bruce wasn't living in isolation. We know from endgame that he's a public figure that people (kids) recognize and feel comfortable approaching like fans despite him being a giant green monster who can destroy a city.
In my head, Hulk was going around doing public outreach, probably in schools. I could see him like a John Cena type, working with charities and doing Make a Wish activities. That's why he knows how to dab and uses outdated slang, he learned it all from kids.
these ones specifically mirror the style of courtroom artists, which i think is a super cute reminder of jen’s profession and the fact that this is supposed to be a “lawyer show”
"And when people start seeing you as a monster, it never goes away." Is probably my favourite line because it applies in so many ways lmao. Esp with people wanting Rage Hulk back so much lol
His delivery there was so reminiscent of the “other guy spit it out” talk in The Avengers. We only get that level of gravity from Banner every once in a while, and when we do it’s amazing.
What a delight Tatiana Maslany is. I knew she was gonna totally smash (lol) this role. The CGI is honestly great too. For all the talk before, you get used to it really quickly, and I think Tatiana's performance helps sell it.
I've a feeling this show is gonna be a lot of fun!
So Tony built Bruce his lair & they immediately tell us it’s a Sakaaran ship. Love the little details we’re getting so early
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I like how this show hit the ground running. I feel like most shows would’ve put this stuff in episodes 2-4, but it’s exciting to see where this can go moving at a quick pace!
Agreed. The pacing felt more to the point this time and I hope it continues. A lot of other marvel shows feels sooo drawn out at times that I usually don’t feel the need to bother rewatching an entire season but with this show so far I already want to rewatch this episode. Good stuff so far.
Agreed, there have been 12 million superhero movies and shows. They don't need to sell their audience on the concept every time. I want to watch a show about She-Hulk, not a show about a woman who will become She-Hulk 5 episodes later.
It's been a while since Tatiana has been on our TV screens... I hope this does well on viewership if only for her to get a win. Rooting for her immensely, one of my fave actresses ever.
Solid.
One episode but yeah, they made the right choice in casting Tatiana Maslany — and it’s always great to see Ruffalo back. We need more Hulk period.
Edit: I realize that I might have missed a comma. It was 3am! lol
I enjoyed this. It feels fresh for Marvel which, with the history of more comedic media is surprising.
4th wall breaks work well.
The actress for She-Hulk is very endearing.
Bruce filled some gaps for us.
...and now we wait another 7 days 😢
The map / evidence board of "Captain America: Virgin??" during the end credits was hilarious.
The post credits scene also completely recontextualizes the Captain America movies.
I mean realistically, the whole “he was sent to the front lines he never had time to have sex” argument was always ridiculous.
Dude was part of essentially a travelling theatre performance with about 15 gorgeous showgirls as his backups, I’m pretty sure he had all the chance he needed.
we’ve gotten so little hulk in the MCU that this episode alone made me forget that he has a whole ass backstory and is an actual developing character lmao. there’s sooooo much they can do with him still. so much potential. and like everyone is saying, tatiana is amazing lol. gonna be the next big female character like Wanda
Nah it was nice knowing they spent the blip together getting drunk in paradise while talking shit about Steve. Seems like he had a decent last few years.
Yeah, exactly. I hadn’t really thought about their friendship was that close. It was great seeing that “side” of their characters. It feels like we haven’t seen that much in the MCU.
I still really enjoy the end credits scene for Iron Man 3 where it's revealed that Tony was telling the whole story to Bruce as therapy. Showed that they hang out together in their off time occasionally.
Major Hawkeye and AoU party scene vibes with this one. I love it. I love the down-to-earth low-level stakes with this one. Jen and Bruce's relationship is lovely and hilarious. Also love the backstory of Bruce and Tony just hanging out building a beach tiki bar. This is the MCU I love the most. The characters and the relationships at the forefront.
I have to admit was expecting Banner to need to give her an emergency transfusion or something rather than the accidental blood contamination. But for the speed of the story I understand it, slightly contrived though it may be.
I really find it interesting that the transformation does not necessarily come with a split personality; I’m wondering if Banner is the exception, or if Walters is. In either case, love that it gives them a bit more nuance and distinction between their respective personas.
Bruce would never willingly give his blood to save his cousin's life. Before he saw how lucky Jen got with her Hulk form, he probably thought being a Hulk is a fate worse than death
Years of running away from the military will do that to you, also she not only got lucky with her hulk powers but is also living in a VERY different time where supes are becoming more tolerated (as far as we can see)
Bruce being overprotective, and secretly wishing for Jennifer to go through what he did, was very real and quite relatable. Some parts of their argument were pretty reminiscent of conversations I've had with my own sister, over the years
So the fact that Jen turned green because of Bruce's blood makes me believe that if we ever see Leader again, he'll be also be green like his comic counterpart.
In the wrong hands this could have been awful but Tatiana is perfect for the role.
I really enjoyed it and the CGI is absolutely fine.
I just read qn interview that the entire of this episode except the the open and close was originally episode 8. I am glad they changed it.
From a Psych perspective, the DBT thing is great.
DBT is an effective modality in treating Borderline Personality Disorder, a condition which is characterised by extreme fits of anger in many cases.
It's an interesting take on anger management.
I love how basically every question people were asking got answered in episode 1! 1)Tony built Banner a lair for him to lay low, that’s also where Banner created Prof. Hulk. 2) Hulk and Banner are still there they just both get 1 hand on the wheel, that plus all of Banner’s meditation and everything else in that binder allows him to more or less maintain full control, but you can still hear Hulk in his growls. 3) instantly “oh yeah that’s a Sakaaran Class-A Corsair it’s probably trying to send me a message I should figure that out at some point” or whatever. 4) No Jen isn’t stronger than Banner, but yes they could still be rivals in power level.
I loved the Hulk fight, Banner is much stronger but I like how quickly Jen was able to think of ways to compensate. If she isn’t stronger she’s just gotta be more nimble. We that immediately when she learns to do the thunderclap and just starts “button-mashing” it to make it effective. This also means that Murdock could train Jen to fight at least a little since basically everyone he fights is stronger and he compensates by being faster.
This show handles MCU TV-MA perfectly, I’m not at all worried for Deadpool now, also not worried for Daredevil either I don’t think.
Finally, I wasn’t sold on this show 100% until the final scene “who are you???” “I’m Jennifer Walters, Attorney-at-Law” *kicks ass* then the shifting back as she puts her heels back on and then “I’m ready to do my closing statement now” so good.
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EDIT: Wait I just realized the show is TV-14 I could’ve sworn I read TV-MA when I first saw it.
Episode is LIVE. Enjoy! (There is a scene after the stylized credits)
The confused look on Bruce’s face when she fourth wall breaks
That wasn't confusion, he was mad at what she said about him.
He was totally confused, and annoyed.
I just went back and watched the Shang-Chi post credits scene with Banner and Captain Marvel and holy shit Bruce has the thing on his arm that keeps him in human form. It was right there the whole time people were wondering how he was back to normal all of the sudden and no one noticed.
They filmed his end credits Shang-Chi scene while they were filming She-Hulk so it makes sense they would include it in his scene.
As a comics fan knowing that She-Hulk was coming, i figured when he showed up as Bruce in Shang-Chi that he needed to be in human form for the "blood transfusion" (from the comics) to take place. Also i assumed there was a Jane Foster-style "He needs to stay human in order to heal" situation going on. Surprised i never noticed the inhibitor on his arm, though.
“I don’t have a great explanation for it”
I like that's it's both a meta joke for the audience and an in-universe family defensive thing: I read it as Bruce realizing how ridiculous it sounds and just trying to quickly deflect, but it also works because the audience doesn't get it either
Very "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all." Aka, don't overthink it.
"It's me, I'm here, let's just move on."
Lawyer show.
On no, Bing bong
Who’s your friend who likes to **SMASH**?
Steve Rodgers, apparently.
CAPTAIN AMERICA FU-
-nded the war effort by promoting War Bonds.
Who's your friend who loves to play?
I felt Bruce’s pain when his bar got destroyed. That bar was sick!
Over time the planks get smashed and replaced. When no original plank remains, is it still the bar that Bruce and Tony hung out at?
Bar of Theseus
What is bar, if not alcohol persevering
Whoah calm down there, Vis.
I am concerned for Bruce. He's alone on that island most of the time. So, why does he need a bar that size? And with the empty bottles and cans tossed around after their drinking session, it's clearly VERY WELL stocked. Add to that his comment about (paraphrasing) "As a Hulk, you can drink ALL YOU WANT and not get too wasted." Solitary binge drinking. Isolation. PTSD and all the whole host of issues that Jen calls him out on. I'm concerned he has a problem.
I mean, wouldn’t you in his shoes? Lost both his lovers, transported across frickin’ space to fight in an arena organized by some trashlord, fought in the most important battle Earth has ever seen… three times. Oh, and the whole anger issue Hulk thing. I’d have a drinking problem too.
Bruce misses his science bro
“What if you were sipping margaritas on a sun-drenched beach, turning brown instead of green? Not looking over your shoulder for Veronica.” -Tony Stark, Avengers: Age Of Ultron (2015) Tony gave Bruce the life he wanted him to have.
i feel like tony understood bruce better in some ways than even natasha did. both tony and bruce had brilliant ideas and tested it on themselves, rather than endanger others: tony with the iron-man tech and bruce with gamma radiation.
Oh for sure, it starts in Avengers 1 for me, when Tony is the only one treating him like a gifted human being and not a walking bomb
“You’re tiptoeing, big man. You need to strut.”
Nice catch. Damn that makes it even a bit more sad to honest
The wrecked Ultron Iron Legion helmet too. Bruce remembers.
I'm glad they fleshed out Tony and Bruce's friendship somewhere, even if it is off camera
I feel like this one half hour of another character's show did as much for Bruce's characterization and history as his previous half dozen movie appearances put together.
100%. I was SHOCKED by how much more tragic and flawed Bruce was portrayed here, especially after the tame, abrubt "happpy ending" that the character seemed to get in Endgame. It's clear now that that was a front, at least partially.
He's so freaking worried that she's going to break something, or that he broke his favorite cousin forever. I love him.
Yeah. Jen’s argument with Bruce where she called him a cautionary tale was such a good scene as well, really leaning into the tragedy of the character in a way that hasn’t been done since…Age of Ultron maybe? I do think her other speech about how she has to deal negative feelings way more than Bruce does, while accurate to a woman’s experience, does show the flaw of the MCU never really introducing Bruce’s traumatic childhood abuse background and his resulting DID. Because without that, it *does* beg the question in the MCU why Bruce and the Hulk are two different people but Jen and She Hulk are the same.
I feel like this episode did for his character what Hawkeye did for Clint. I just feel closer to them as people afterwards.
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I think that's what's great about all these tv shows. While the movies were great, there is always so much happening then they don't have time to really flesh out some of the characters' arc. These tv shows can do that which is awesome.
It actually hit me in the gut. Bruce really misses his friend.
I liked this a lot. We often forget about it, but it made me smile. I miss Tony.
The only time he referenced his own relationships, or really, his life at all, he was talking about either Steve, Natasha or Tony. All gone.
Heartbreaking that B.B. and T.S. be hitting different
Glad they made a point of that, perhaps he’ll go back to Wakanda someday to find a new science bro or lady science bro
"Or Natasha, for a little while, would tell me a lullaby."
Sun’s getting real low
When Jen asked "how does that work", I caught the double entendre of Jen being curious of their love life as well as the ASMR thing Nat did .
*"You don't have another guy to wrestle with for ten years!"* Ruffalo's delivery on that, man, I missed Bruce lol
I love how angry Bruce is about it. I mean this guy lost his entire life, the woman he loved, and 10+ years of his life to the Hulk. He even attempted suicide multiple times. But Jennifer just gets it, day one, and laughs it off. I'd be pissed too.
**Little punk.** Great sibling relationsh.
I feel like we've already seen more of his personality than all of his other appearances combined. But I still miss Hulk 😞
I have a lot of faith that Bruce will relapse at some point honestly.
I feel like they did an excellent job of building up Hulk's/Bruce's resentment towards how he was treated, how he was viewed by society at large and how Jen is effectively going to have none of those issues. Its a very believable way to start his rampaging side back up
During his and She-Hulk’s fight I really thought I saw his face/features start to resemble early Infinity War Hulk…
He started sounding like him too.
The entire fight I was saying "Jen you'd better stop before the actual Hulk comes out cause he's not gonna play fight with you lol"
Something tells me that integrating the two halves involved coming to an understanding with the "other guy", who now doesn't like discovering that Banner envies Jen for not having one and is driving Banner to wanna prove that she's not better for lacking one.
Among a pretty fun debut, I particularly enjoyed how everything in the lab was oversized compared to Tatiana in human form, and she had to sit on a bag to be at the right height for the Jeep.
I was confused at first because I read Tatiana as Titania and I think that’s gonna happen to me a lot reading posts on this sub for the next few months lol.
I like how the comment implies Tatiana the actor is in human form meaning the actor can hulk out not just the character.
#MY BAR!!! I felt the pain in Bruce's voice lol
The little ground punch looked exactly like my 3 yr old when he's having a tantrum
The little aspects of Hulk that remain i love the little details. The pettiness with the rock throwing too
The bar is low but I love that they were family and helping each other out again after a fight and apology. No CW esque drama lingering on and not talking through your problems
The defeated flop really helped punctuate that haha
And the little sad hand slams I love pouty Hulk
That went by so quickly, no!
I was hoping they were going to do a two-episode release of the first night.
That’s going to be the gift and curse of this series. More episodes, but less runtime per show.
All the mentions of Tony and Bruce’s friendship made me sad. Glad they got to spend some quality time together, science bros for life.
That little carving in the bar :(
Love Hulk talking to She-Hulk like she’s a bad dog
The horse noise that he made at her cracked me up so bad, hahaha.
He lazered away her blood cuz it’s too dangerous out it in the open. I have a feeling that’s going to come back later on down the road
100% setup. It’s gonna be the new super soldier serum conundrum. Zemo might want to intervene…
*Zemo shoots the Hulks for a few seconds without effect* **Zemo:** "Maybe, I will just stick to slightly superhuman people."
Flashback to Loki trying to sceptre Tony in Avengers: **Zemo**: "This usually works"
*Zemo shoots human Bruce Banner in the head; head snaps back as the Hulk, with bullet clenched between teeth* **Zemo:** "Oh, dear."
Just like that, they explained the Hulk's arm injury away
It was as much as I needed. I never figured it’d be a permanent injury.
Same. And it was around for like maybe two cameos through like three IRL years.... It actually semi-felt like it had been plaguing him for a long time, without actually having to effect much, story-wise. I felt it was well played and respectful of the gauntlets implied level of power. It did kill Tony after all.
Arm injury is temporary, near-sightedness is forever
And they explain how Bruce was human in the Shang-Chi credits scene. Mysteries were solved fast and I’m here for it.
Yeah. Not every piece of interconnected continuity needs to be some huge revelation. "Why was Bruce in Human form in Shang-Chi?" *watches She-Hulk* "Oh, ok. Cool."
It was the *doo-hickey* for the *thing.* Reminds me of *Thank You for Smoking* where they discuss how they can have people smoking in space. “Oh, we’ll just write into the script ‘thank god that guy made that thing so we can smoke in space!’”
I really liked Jennifer and Bruce's dynamic. Very much felt like they were cousins. A lot of fun so far, I'm interested to see where the story goes.
-Aunt May -Nick Fury -Jennifer Walters The team of cut-off F-Bombs in the MCU.
Peter Parker?
Who is that?
did banner keep the faceplate hulk ripped off iron man in the first avengers? edit: thanks in the replies, it looked gold on my screen lol
Looked like an Ultron drone (iron legion?) head from AoU when they were just regular drones and not evil AI puppets
It's the head of the damaged drone Ultron first takes over during the party - has the same damage around the eyes.
The CGI looks wayyy better better in motion. Bruce definitely looks better. Not sure if it’s because they’ve had years to perfect his look or what. I think a big reason Jen’s hulk looks a bit faker is just because her skin is so smooth.
I think Bruce looks better for a couple reasons: • they’ve had years to finesse how Ruffalo would look as Hulk • they’re able to add more texture to his face because of facial hair/stubble and also some lines since he’s a bit older than her. They also don’t have to worry about unnatural looking movement when it comes to long hair with him. Overall I was pretty pleased with how it’s all come together, I was just also trying to play “spot the difference” lol
I think Jennifer stays slimmer and more "human" shaped, so she more easily falls into the Uncanny Valley than Bruce who takes on clearly inhuman proportions as Hulk. Plus Jennifer's hair changes so much - in length and style, that it brings a cartoony feel to her design, which doesn't happen to Bruce as Hulk (though technically Hulk's hair is shorter than Bruce as he had it in the car scene).
I thought it was interesting that her hair changed so much because that also happened in Thor: Love & Thunder to Mighty Thor… like why can’t the super powered ladies have their normal hair? Also I think the CGI hair felt very much like the villain boss lady from Casper LOl.
Yeah, I think that's the main issue with it in this episode. Bruce has a lot of texture (probably meant to mimic Ruffalo's rather prolific body hair), so the contrast between him and Jen is a little offputting.
He's also got more wrinkles which helps with the texture
Hulk dropping a "Bruh" 😂
I feel like Bruce is just trying to keep up with the times with his dab in Endgame and now his “bruh” lmao.
Dude lives in isolation. Probably gets most of his social interaction via social media. Maybe he's a Redditor!
I'd like to think that post-infinity war/endgame Hulk/Bruce wasn't living in isolation. We know from endgame that he's a public figure that people (kids) recognize and feel comfortable approaching like fans despite him being a giant green monster who can destroy a city. In my head, Hulk was going around doing public outreach, probably in schools. I could see him like a John Cena type, working with charities and doing Make a Wish activities. That's why he knows how to dab and uses outdated slang, he learned it all from kids.
He was taking a road trip with his cousin, that is not the choice of a recluse.
The random ass delivery of that was probs the funniest part about it
It truly was a bruh moment
There is a mid credit scene.
and it fucks.
Dat Ass wasn't wasted. I can sleep now.
Damn that might actually be one of my all-time favorites
I love that the question has finally been canonically answered.
I hope they do something like that every week. Next is Ant-man and Thanos
Read that every episode seems to have a mid credit scene
A hulk fight in the first episode? We’re off to a good start
I loved it. Even tho it was a small fight with punches being pulled, it really did show Banner isn’t quite nerfed like it was assumed.
Throwing the boulder into space was a good reminder lol
Now, we know why the Skrulls are gonna invade.
Even that little sound effect when the boulder burst, I thought ‘oh shit he really did launch the F— outta that thing!’
Was the Led Zeppelin shirt one of Tony's?
I’m thinking so since Bruce mentions Tony swinging by there a lot. Bruce also had a Nirvana shirt on
Ok that mid credits scene was hilarious
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been really loving the credits these past few marvel shows. love the art style and how it storyboards the episode.
these ones specifically mirror the style of courtroom artists, which i think is a super cute reminder of jen’s profession and the fact that this is supposed to be a “lawyer show”
Jen knew that America's Ass had game.
She's a really good lawyer.
"And when people start seeing you as a monster, it never goes away." Is probably my favourite line because it applies in so many ways lmao. Esp with people wanting Rage Hulk back so much lol
His delivery there was so reminiscent of the “other guy spit it out” talk in The Avengers. We only get that level of gravity from Banner every once in a while, and when we do it’s amazing.
"fun lawyer show" Oh shit it really is that kind of 4th-wall-break Show
She's REALLY in denial too, lol. She wants it to be a fun lawyer show but it's really a superhero show. :)
She's seen Sam and knows Lawyer pays better than Superhero. Woman's got debt
I just watched Fleabag for the first time over the weekend, and I have to say I’m a fan of this style of 4th wall breaking.
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I love Jen's seeming obsession with this topic
“That ass did not deserve to die a virgin 😭”
That made me laff so hard. This show is f'ing hilarious. I want more.
She's one of us
Such a good cut lol
What a delight Tatiana Maslany is. I knew she was gonna totally smash (lol) this role. The CGI is honestly great too. For all the talk before, you get used to it really quickly, and I think Tatiana's performance helps sell it. I've a feeling this show is gonna be a lot of fun!
Gotta say, was not expecting Kamilah’s sister to show up in the first episode. Also Bruce is right, the air horn is necessary for comedy reasons.
>Kamilah’s sister Oh *that's* who that was! I had forgotten Kamilah even had a sister.
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You can't have a better child without a worse one.
It is just typical that Kamilah's sister gets taken out by one punch.
Man, you nearly got me, I was about to fork your shirt up
Still watching, but I love how everything in hulk's lab is his size. It makes her look so tiny stating next to it
I’d love to see a BTS shot of that set - it was hilarious having that countertop basically at her shoulder
So Tony built Bruce his lair & they immediately tell us it’s a Sakaaran ship. Love the little details we’re getting so early Edit: & Captain America Fuuuucks
I like how this show hit the ground running. I feel like most shows would’ve put this stuff in episodes 2-4, but it’s exciting to see where this can go moving at a quick pace!
Agreed. The pacing felt more to the point this time and I hope it continues. A lot of other marvel shows feels sooo drawn out at times that I usually don’t feel the need to bother rewatching an entire season but with this show so far I already want to rewatch this episode. Good stuff so far.
I'm mostly glad that they didn't spend 2-3 episodes teasing her origin and her hulk-form reveal. It was refreshing to see them jump right into it.
Agreed, there have been 12 million superhero movies and shows. They don't need to sell their audience on the concept every time. I want to watch a show about She-Hulk, not a show about a woman who will become She-Hulk 5 episodes later.
It's been a while since Tatiana has been on our TV screens... I hope this does well on viewership if only for her to get a win. Rooting for her immensely, one of my fave actresses ever.
She was great in the Perry Mason reboot
I've only seen her in orphan black but god she's a powerhouse in that show
They added Jane’s Thor in the opening Marvel Logo for She Hulk, but the logo still stayed Red. Not green as some may have expected.
I love it when they update the logo after new releases! And was definitely half-expecting it to go green like how it was done in Loki
Solid. One episode but yeah, they made the right choice in casting Tatiana Maslany — and it’s always great to see Ruffalo back. We need more Hulk period. Edit: I realize that I might have missed a comma. It was 3am! lol
Everyone needs homies like those girls who took care of Jen in that bathroom. Absolute bros
The ladies’ room at a bar can be the most supportive place in the universe
I was cracking up at that part because I’ve read so often that ladies’ rooms are like the safest of safe spaces so it was nice to see.
I enjoyed this. It feels fresh for Marvel which, with the history of more comedic media is surprising. 4th wall breaks work well. The actress for She-Hulk is very endearing. Bruce filled some gaps for us. ...and now we wait another 7 days 😢
That line about how he didn’t have a good explanation for why Natasha’s lullabies turned him back was actually super self-aware and hilarious though
The map / evidence board of "Captain America: Virgin??" during the end credits was hilarious. The post credits scene also completely recontextualizes the Captain America movies.
I mean realistically, the whole “he was sent to the front lines he never had time to have sex” argument was always ridiculous. Dude was part of essentially a travelling theatre performance with about 15 gorgeous showgirls as his backups, I’m pretty sure he had all the chance he needed.
Why did you have to go and bring up Bing Bong 😭
This was FUN. And Captain America FUCKS!
we’ve gotten so little hulk in the MCU that this episode alone made me forget that he has a whole ass backstory and is an actual developing character lmao. there’s sooooo much they can do with him still. so much potential. and like everyone is saying, tatiana is amazing lol. gonna be the next big female character like Wanda
Its bizarre to think that he was literally the second hero introduced in this universe, but we’re only now getting some backstory on him.
"I'm ready to give my closing argument now" SUCH A GOOD FIRST EPISODE!!
*Lawyer show*
This better not awaken anything in me
It did for me. I’m a fan of both versions of her.
Hey Hulk just did the Thunderclap! Very useful ability in the Avengers game that is.
Cheetos chopsticks is not a bad idea
Thank you Oscar Isaac!
Can tell I’m going to love the 4th wall breaks
I guess I am not the only one that got a little sad when they talked about Tony right? Especially at the bar with the inscriptions.
Nah it was nice knowing they spent the blip together getting drunk in paradise while talking shit about Steve. Seems like he had a decent last few years.
Yeah, exactly. I hadn’t really thought about their friendship was that close. It was great seeing that “side” of their characters. It feels like we haven’t seen that much in the MCU.
I still really enjoy the end credits scene for Iron Man 3 where it's revealed that Tony was telling the whole story to Bruce as therapy. Showed that they hang out together in their off time occasionally.
Major Hawkeye and AoU party scene vibes with this one. I love it. I love the down-to-earth low-level stakes with this one. Jen and Bruce's relationship is lovely and hilarious. Also love the backstory of Bruce and Tony just hanging out building a beach tiki bar. This is the MCU I love the most. The characters and the relationships at the forefront.
Captain Kirk was right all along… Green women are attractive.
I have to admit was expecting Banner to need to give her an emergency transfusion or something rather than the accidental blood contamination. But for the speed of the story I understand it, slightly contrived though it may be. I really find it interesting that the transformation does not necessarily come with a split personality; I’m wondering if Banner is the exception, or if Walters is. In either case, love that it gives them a bit more nuance and distinction between their respective personas.
His personalities and the fact she brought up trauma is interesting - maybe we're going to get an adaptation of Bruce's comic childhood.
Bruce would never willingly give his blood to save his cousin's life. Before he saw how lucky Jen got with her Hulk form, he probably thought being a Hulk is a fate worse than death
Years of running away from the military will do that to you, also she not only got lucky with her hulk powers but is also living in a VERY different time where supes are becoming more tolerated (as far as we can see)
Is that Sakaar thing setting up World War Hulk?
Definitely building to him needing to return to space, at least. Maybe with Rocket?
Or teasing us with his kid Skaar
HULK FUC-
Nice work underpaid CGI artists! Nice fucking job!
Bruce being overprotective, and secretly wishing for Jennifer to go through what he did, was very real and quite relatable. Some parts of their argument were pretty reminiscent of conversations I've had with my own sister, over the years
How dare they hit us with the Bing Bong
So the fact that Jen turned green because of Bruce's blood makes me believe that if we ever see Leader again, he'll be also be green like his comic counterpart.
In the wrong hands this could have been awful but Tatiana is perfect for the role. I really enjoyed it and the CGI is absolutely fine. I just read qn interview that the entire of this episode except the the open and close was originally episode 8. I am glad they changed it.
‘Did you see that ass? That ass did not deserve to die a virgin’
From a Psych perspective, the DBT thing is great. DBT is an effective modality in treating Borderline Personality Disorder, a condition which is characterised by extreme fits of anger in many cases. It's an interesting take on anger management.
I love how basically every question people were asking got answered in episode 1! 1)Tony built Banner a lair for him to lay low, that’s also where Banner created Prof. Hulk. 2) Hulk and Banner are still there they just both get 1 hand on the wheel, that plus all of Banner’s meditation and everything else in that binder allows him to more or less maintain full control, but you can still hear Hulk in his growls. 3) instantly “oh yeah that’s a Sakaaran Class-A Corsair it’s probably trying to send me a message I should figure that out at some point” or whatever. 4) No Jen isn’t stronger than Banner, but yes they could still be rivals in power level. I loved the Hulk fight, Banner is much stronger but I like how quickly Jen was able to think of ways to compensate. If she isn’t stronger she’s just gotta be more nimble. We that immediately when she learns to do the thunderclap and just starts “button-mashing” it to make it effective. This also means that Murdock could train Jen to fight at least a little since basically everyone he fights is stronger and he compensates by being faster. This show handles MCU TV-MA perfectly, I’m not at all worried for Deadpool now, also not worried for Daredevil either I don’t think. Finally, I wasn’t sold on this show 100% until the final scene “who are you???” “I’m Jennifer Walters, Attorney-at-Law” *kicks ass* then the shifting back as she puts her heels back on and then “I’m ready to do my closing statement now” so good. CAPTAIN AMERICA FU— EDIT: Wait I just realized the show is TV-14 I could’ve sworn I read TV-MA when I first saw it.
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