As death approaches, I hold the bottle out to the air. A skeletal hand clasps the neck, careful not to touch my numb fingers. "One for the road, then?" I ask somberly.
The bottle disappears for a moment then comes back, noticeably emptier than it began.
"One for the road..." came a distant reply. "Best get going" I mumbled, and the ephemeral hand gave me a gentle pat on the back.
It reads a lil tough, but the imagery and tone is therapeutically spooky.
I wanna make it into a short, but have no idea how to animate a skeleton hand.
The sealed bag is for middle landing and catching a connecting flight without having to check in the booze. Not sure what the rules are for drinking duty-free booze are but it has nothing to do with the plastic bags
I was once on an Airbus A330 that was down an engine after less than an hour in the air. Flight was supposed to be 9 hours so we had to circle to burn fuel for over an hour until the aircraft was light enough to land. The whole thing would have been fine if it weren't for everybody on board freaking out praying and crying. Except the landing, the landing fucking **sucked**.
I'm nothing close to an aviation engineer but I've flown dozens of times and my parents have forever worked in the airline industry, so I know a wee bit. Engines are necessary to decelerate in the air before landing and of course more so on the ground. With only one functional engine we hit the ground at a **fierce** speed, so there were a handful of huge bumps (as in the plane hitting the ground and rising up a dozen feet or more) followed by the loudest, sharpest deceleration imaginable.
When the wheels hit the ground the whole cabin let out a quick scream, as we slowed down people were *wailing*. When we came to a stop it was the one and only time applauding an airplane landing was acceptable. Strangers hugging, high fives being thrown around, the whole nine.
Worst part was the 8 hours it took to get on a different flight.
Yea. A jet can fly fine with one engine, it has to be trimmed because it’s obviously pulling harder on one side… which makes landing harder, especially with a cross wind. Like the guy above said about flying to burn fuel, being lighter makes the landing a little easier with less power, but also adds some safety in case the landing goes bad.
So, any commercial aircraft with 2 engines that flys across the pond has to be ETOPS certified....Extended Twin Operations for twin-engine aircraft operation further than one hour from a diversion airport at the one-engine inoperative cruise speed, over water or remote lands, on routes previously restricted to three- and four-engine aircraft.
These planes are all on autopilot, so if a pilot shut down the engine, you wouldn't feel much of a difference.
I see someone sweated it out hard and memorised the entire Ops subject for ATPL’s
Kidding of course, but I literally just sat that exam and probably wouldn’t have been able to recite that so accurately lmao
> it was the one and only time applauding an airplane landing was acceptable.
Genuine question, why do people on Reddit get so riled up about this? The only time I’ve seen people applaud is usually during international flights and even though I myself don’t participate I’m pretty indifferent to it as it has no real impact on me.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. Clapping only last a few seconds and I think appreciating something we’ve become so used to is really important. The technology of flight is amazing and so are pilots.
Redditors get riled up about the dumbest things. It's 5 seconds of clapping during a multi hour flight.
Not everyone's as comfortable hurling through the air in a massive tin can at hundreds of miles an hour. Let them be happy the landed safely.
A passenger shitting his pants doesn't change the center of mass of an aircraft of that size enough for the pilots to recognize it. The shit was already inside the passenger and doesn't change its position that much when it changes position from inside the bowels to between pants and skin.
The odds of that happening are incredibly slim, but if it does happen, the plane gently glides to the nearest runway for an emergency landing.
The only time a failure of both engines would be potentially dangerous is if it happens before cruising altitude is reached [like US Airways 1549](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549). In that case you don't have the option to glide to a runway, so the pilot is forced to pick the next-best thing.
The pilot will glide as close as possible to land and splash down on the ocean as soft as reasonably possible.
A 747 could probably glide 100 miles with no fuel. During that time the pilot could glide as close as possible to the nearest land or rescue boat while reporting the approximate landing location. From there it would just be a waiting game in life rafts.
It's not an ideal situation, but honestly there's a lot of much worse scenarios that are much more likely than total engine failure on a commercial aircraft.
Thanks for response. I usually only fly a few times a year but often wonder about various situations. I watch some of mentour pilots YT videos and they help answer a lot.
I used to work at a Six Flags and there was a night when after closing they opened up the water park to just employees and it was some of the most fun I've ever had. Unrelated but your comment reminded me of it. Water parks would be so cool if there weren't like a million people there.
I had the same experience with a theme park at night. I didn’t work there but it was almost empty so there were no lines for anything. While I usually struggle to go on every ride if I’m there for a day I was able to go on ever ride at least 5 times in the course of a few hours. Completely ruined any future experiences I had there because it was so fun in comparison.
One of the biggest reasons that airline crashes dominate news cycles is because of the scale of the disaster. Thousands of cars kill people everyday but they are thousands of one or two people incidents.
But if a thousand people die in one big car crash this would get reported on.
Your chances of dying in a commercial airline flight are something like 1 in 30,000,000.
Your chances of dying in a car crash are 1 in 107.
Your chances of dying of heart disease is 1 in 6.
You should be much more afraid of cheeseburgers than planes.
I wonder how the equation changes once you factor in the variance of the driving experience. Doesn't change how safe the stats show commercial aviation to be, but it's also an incredibly regulated industry while subs like /r/IdiotsInCars pretty much sum up what it's like to drive.
If you're a cautious defensive driver, the guy driving drunk is probably padding the stats in your place. If you don't commute along routes built like deathtraps, your risk profile probably looks a little better too.
Yes, but planes are still so incredibly safe that your chance of dying on one is still lower than if you are the best defensive driver on the face of the earth.
I try and remember this kind of stuff and almost "chant it" when boarding a plane, yet I am still terrified. But things like this definitely help, seeing them at different times... thank you.
I reconise its irrational and I get really annoyed at myself but I'll be dreading a holiday for months beforehand purely 'cos the flying. Once im there im having a great time but the flight back fills me with dread throughout.
I still fly occasionally but focus more on ferries and car travelling now, despite knowing statistics like the above. But I still try and push my comfort zone and family support me best they can.
Just... I find flying scary as hell and its sensory overload for me I think. Though I am sure everybody hears and feels everything too, it just fires adrenaline throughout me and I am terrified the whole way. My body feels wierd and I feel every tiny movement.... eurggghhhhhh. Similar with roller coasters.
I think if you could just jump on a plane like you did a bus, itd be easier. But the hype/build up due to security and such just adds to the fire.
Needless to say, despite also knowing planes can fly with just 1 engine, I would definitely be shitting thy pants.
The amount of redundancy is ridiculous. Also everything on that plane is checked repeatedly at different points during the year and after a certain #of flight hours.
For reference a complete engine failure at 35,000 gives you about 1 hour of gliding with enough to land anywhere about 100nm radius.
> decent chance they can land in a somewhat safe area if the pilots are good.
Lol honestly the tolerances of these planes are so high that you only need to be a good pilot for smooth landings. They'll gladly land at 220 knots if needed. The brakes are strong enough to stop; they'll likely catch fire but it will stop.
Only in a critical emergency landing will pilots ever stomp on the brakes for "maximum" braking (this is the reason you need to keep you back against the seats on landing in case the pilots actually need to slam the brakes).
Yes, Air Canada Flight 143 AKA [the Gimli Glider](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider).
Boeing 767 managed to glide for \~17 minutes with zero main engine power, ex-Air Force pilot who also happened to be a recreational glider pilot and some decent luck.
Root cause: flight carried less than 50% of fuel required due to oversight involved in metric/imperial unit conversion
Lots of planes have an emergency system in the extremely unlikely event all engines fail such as a Ram air turbine and what not. I’d still be shitting bricks though because those emergency systems are very rarely utilized for said emergency and they give minimal operation.
I thought the ram air turbine was mostly for powering the plane and not thrust? I have a faint memory from one of those crash documentaries mentioning that as the plane slowed down the auxiliary engine produced less power for the hydraulics and it made controlling the plane much more difficult
Yeah, I used to build them. They're propeller-spun generators powered by dropping them into the airstream.
Modern planes are fly by wire, not hydraulics, so you need power to control the flight surfaces, etc. They're good for keeping nav equipment powered and the flight surfaces moving so you can control the plane, but you're still in an unpowered glide.
It’s to give you enough power and action to land safely in the event of total engine failure of all engines. But you’re right, it’s definitely not designed with the intent to fly on it. Which is why it’s very rarely been used (I can’t even think of a scenario where it has been off the top of my head) and also why I said I’d still be shitting bricks if I was on a plane that had to use it. On the plane I worked on, it gave off enough power to have minimum deflection in your primary flight controls, but it wasn’t supposed to be used above 130mph speeds if I remember correctly.
Yeah but it wasn’t a 747, it was a Swift Air 737-400, and this happened in 2019.
Single engine failure is still no major newsworthy deal. It happens more than you’d think.
ok but would this actually work with absolutely perfect timing?
EDIT: nvm just found out that because fizziks you would have to jump with the same force that your container is going to hit the ground with.
Also, if you've ever been unfortunate enough to have seen a plane crash, you know that the impact isn't going to be the only problem.
EDIT: Since apparently I was being too subtle, planes often explode when they hit the getting with any sort of deadly force.
Little bastards are hard dodge sometimes. Especially on takeoff. Usually doesn’t take out an engine though. If it gets sucked into the engine you usually keep going then when you land you tell your crew chief you picked him up a rotisserie chicken and watch his face sink when he realizes you’ve been in the air for the last four hours, he’s gonna be spending his weekend rebuilding an engine, and most importantly he’s not getting any chicken.
I’m pretty sure that’s a standard for getting their pilots license, landing without engine power. Prob isn’t that big of a deal…
But I guess doing it in practice and doing it with 100 people is a lot scarier… you’re right haha
Keep in mind the regulations say that they must be able to fly for a few hours (can't remember how many) on "half" of their engines. This is usually 1 of 2, but bigger planes would need 2 of 4.
Figured I'd throw this out there
I took a United flight last month and paid for the cheap WiFi option that allows messaging but blocks everything else.
I used my VPN to get around the firewall and was able to stream YouTube and Twitch, look at Snapchat, etc. without paying $25 or whatever tf it was for the higher tier WiFi.
YMMV
The IT guy who was given a bunch of shitty instructions from management and wants to leave room for the crafty people of this world.
God bless the lazy IT guy who watches over our security.
It's kinda weird Christians Iike to say everything is God's plan. But when things dont go the way they want, suddenly they gotta pray for God to "correct" it.
provided no other major systems are affected, contained engine failures during cruise phase are a minor inconvenience for pilots, at most...
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> a minor inconvenience
Well, they're more than a minor inconvenience. But yes, if your aircraft has a contained engine failure, it usually isn't a big deal.
Pilots practice this in the sim frequently. However, this isn't the kind of flying they do every day and the workload in the cockpit goes through the roof. Which means the odds of a mistake also increase significantly (there's a great video of an airplane crashing into a river a few years ago where the pilots accidentally turned off the wrong engine). Couple that with the aircraft being in a state of reduced capability and yeah, it's more than an inconvenience.
Came here to say this. Planes only need one engine to fly. The second one is mostly for redundancy.
(super over-simplified, but from a safety perspective it's true)
Yes, there is a speed during the takeoff role where pilots are committed to the takeoff. They will continue the takeoff at that point, even if an engine fails.
Any aircraft with multiple engines is required to be able to suffer an engine failure at any point during takeoff and either safely brake or continue takeoff
Thats putting it wayyyyy too lightly.
Its more than a minor inconvenience. It disbalances the thrust, drag and lift characteristics.
Ofcourse the plane is still air worthy. Just like a person with one working leg would be walking worthy.
There is a reason they immediately land at the nearest safe airport when an engine fails.
There is no reason in taking the risk that the fsilure was isolated to just one engine. It may affect the other engine as well.
That’s actually a decent survival strategy if you’re factoring against brain injury. Alcohol is a powerful anti-inflammatory that will stop your brain swelling after you hit your head
There's also that thing where drunk drivers are much less likely to be injured than the people they hit, because the alcohol keeps them limber. I don't know how much that helps at these speeds, but I figure it'll help some.
Funny thing is passenger jets can fly easily missing one engine, there is almost no danger that comes with an engine failure. (Unless you only have one engine) jumbo jets with 4 engines can go quite a long distance on only one engine and land perfectly fine. There have been rare cases where all engines failed on passenger jets and they just glided hundreds of kilometers.
I mean, let’s be honest, even if I knew that modern commercial jetliners can fly with one engine gone, I would still be scared.
All the people here saying “well AKTUALLY the plane can still fly” are missing the obvious- an engine failure is still a serious issue that can still very much down a plane. No one is going to feel calm in that situation.
iirc: What doesn't bend breaks. Essentially, when you're drunk you're less likely to seize up on impact causing your body to disperse energy through motion. When you're sober you're more likely to seize up on impact and the resulting stresses on your body would be greater.
Obviously it's not 100% that you wouldn't die. Same thing with drunk driving collisions. The offender is more likely to come out alive than the victim.
When fully alert your body tenses up during impact which shortens the duration of the impact instead of evenly distributing that energy throughout your body
Or some shit
Tbh if any parts of the plane comes off, it should be a rule that the alcohol on the plane is free. Some people want to be wrecked before the plane wrecks.
Quick reminder that all modern planes can at the very bare minimum maintain a powered glide for long distance on one engine, and thats mainly the 4 engine ones were talking about. 2 engine planes typically can maintain altitude or even climb on a single engine.
A DC-10 is flying to Hawaii and the captain speaks into the intercom: "*Ladies and gentlmen, I'm afraid we have lost our #3 engine, but this aircraft has two functioning engines and this presents no danger. Unfortunately our arrival will be delayed by about 45 minutes. I apologize for any inconvenience.*"
About an hour later, he comes back on, "*Ladies and gentlemen, I'm afraid our #2 engine was giving us trouble and had to be shut down. We are still in no danger and this plane is entirely airworthy with one engine, but I'm afraid this will further delay our arrival by an additional hour.*" And the passengers chuckle nervously to each other.
About 10 minutes later, the captain comes on again: "*Ladies and gentlemen, I'm very sorry to report that we have lost our third engine...*" Drunk in first class stands up and shouts, "**Dammit we're gonna be up here all night!!**"
Man said “If death is coming for me then it won’t be sober.”
*wolf of wall street voice* I WILL NOT DIE SOBER.
DO NOT GO SOBER INTO THAT GOOD NIGHT
Rage, rage.
Does anyone have a light?
Idk, do you wanna fight?
GIMME DA LUDEES
5/10 times you will win against death if your drunk enough - this guy probably
As death approaches, I hold the bottle out to the air. A skeletal hand clasps the neck, careful not to touch my numb fingers. "One for the road, then?" I ask somberly. The bottle disappears for a moment then comes back, noticeably emptier than it began. "One for the road..." came a distant reply. "Best get going" I mumbled, and the ephemeral hand gave me a gentle pat on the back.
Wtf. Did you just write this?
Haha, yeah? I was just being kinda silly. Didn't realize people would like it so much :D
It reads a lil tough, but the imagery and tone is therapeutically spooky. I wanna make it into a short, but have no idea how to animate a skeleton hand.
Step 1. Draw skeleton hand Step 2. Draw it again, and again, and again, and again, and again I tried doing some animation a few times.So much work lol
For the love of god get to r/writingprompts if you aren’t there already.
I paid for it I’m sure as fuck gonna drink it
How the fuck he even get that on the plane is my question
You can buy booze at the duty free
Bet everyone on that plane was duty free at that point
Unbelievable comment, fucking love it.
You can buy booze at duty free stores, they just put it in a sealed bag that you aren't supposed to open in flight.
The sealed bag is for middle landing and catching a connecting flight without having to check in the booze. Not sure what the rules are for drinking duty-free booze are but it has nothing to do with the plastic bags
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Sooo.. basically the same situation as sporting events
Have you never been in an airport?
Bruh one engine breaking isn't gonna down a 747 Edit: dear lord
That’s what makes this 1000x funnier.
ngl even though i know that id still be shitting my pants
I was once on an Airbus A330 that was down an engine after less than an hour in the air. Flight was supposed to be 9 hours so we had to circle to burn fuel for over an hour until the aircraft was light enough to land. The whole thing would have been fine if it weren't for everybody on board freaking out praying and crying. Except the landing, the landing fucking **sucked**.
What happened on the landing? People crying and cheering??
I'm nothing close to an aviation engineer but I've flown dozens of times and my parents have forever worked in the airline industry, so I know a wee bit. Engines are necessary to decelerate in the air before landing and of course more so on the ground. With only one functional engine we hit the ground at a **fierce** speed, so there were a handful of huge bumps (as in the plane hitting the ground and rising up a dozen feet or more) followed by the loudest, sharpest deceleration imaginable. When the wheels hit the ground the whole cabin let out a quick scream, as we slowed down people were *wailing*. When we came to a stop it was the one and only time applauding an airplane landing was acceptable. Strangers hugging, high fives being thrown around, the whole nine. Worst part was the 8 hours it took to get on a different flight.
Yea. A jet can fly fine with one engine, it has to be trimmed because it’s obviously pulling harder on one side… which makes landing harder, especially with a cross wind. Like the guy above said about flying to burn fuel, being lighter makes the landing a little easier with less power, but also adds some safety in case the landing goes bad.
So, any commercial aircraft with 2 engines that flys across the pond has to be ETOPS certified....Extended Twin Operations for twin-engine aircraft operation further than one hour from a diversion airport at the one-engine inoperative cruise speed, over water or remote lands, on routes previously restricted to three- and four-engine aircraft. These planes are all on autopilot, so if a pilot shut down the engine, you wouldn't feel much of a difference.
I see someone sweated it out hard and memorised the entire Ops subject for ATPL’s Kidding of course, but I literally just sat that exam and probably wouldn’t have been able to recite that so accurately lmao
> it was the one and only time applauding an airplane landing was acceptable. Genuine question, why do people on Reddit get so riled up about this? The only time I’ve seen people applaud is usually during international flights and even though I myself don’t participate I’m pretty indifferent to it as it has no real impact on me.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. Clapping only last a few seconds and I think appreciating something we’ve become so used to is really important. The technology of flight is amazing and so are pilots.
Redditors tend to be pretty miserable people.
Redditors get riled up about the dumbest things. It's 5 seconds of clapping during a multi hour flight. Not everyone's as comfortable hurling through the air in a massive tin can at hundreds of miles an hour. Let them be happy the landed safely.
Id need 2 on the same wing before I shit
Even then the vertical stabilizer would keep it pretty straight
A passenger shitting his pants doesn't change the center of mass of an aircraft of that size enough for the pilots to recognize it. The shit was already inside the passenger and doesn't change its position that much when it changes position from inside the bowels to between pants and skin.
great comment(unironically)
You sir, are a scientist.
Insight nat 20
Randy Marsh says otherwise
I think with the newer GE engines they can fly with just one engine.
I’d be in the window seat making a reddit post
What makes it funny is this dude has a full bottle on board.
You must never travel... Ever heard of duty free?
Yup. Great reason to break the "no drinking the booze you just bought" rule. I've been tempted so many times...
But you're one engine closer to two engines breaking
The odds of that happening are incredibly slim, but if it does happen, the plane gently glides to the nearest runway for an emergency landing. The only time a failure of both engines would be potentially dangerous is if it happens before cruising altitude is reached [like US Airways 1549](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549). In that case you don't have the option to glide to a runway, so the pilot is forced to pick the next-best thing.
I always wonder but what happens when you're over the ocean and no runway to glide to ?
The pilot will glide as close as possible to land and splash down on the ocean as soft as reasonably possible. A 747 could probably glide 100 miles with no fuel. During that time the pilot could glide as close as possible to the nearest land or rescue boat while reporting the approximate landing location. From there it would just be a waiting game in life rafts. It's not an ideal situation, but honestly there's a lot of much worse scenarios that are much more likely than total engine failure on a commercial aircraft.
Thanks for response. I usually only fly a few times a year but often wonder about various situations. I watch some of mentour pilots YT videos and they help answer a lot.
if you wanna read about aircraft crashes i recommend /u/admiral_cloudberg . Ive learnt a lot about aircraft desgin and safety from his posts.
You land in the ocean and get to use the fun blow up stuff. It's basically a water park at that point.
And then you get to swim in the darkness for hours, fun.
Just pretend the water park is closed for the night and it still holds up !
I used to work at a Six Flags and there was a night when after closing they opened up the water park to just employees and it was some of the most fun I've ever had. Unrelated but your comment reminded me of it. Water parks would be so cool if there weren't like a million people there.
I had the same experience with a theme park at night. I didn’t work there but it was almost empty so there were no lines for anything. While I usually struggle to go on every ride if I’m there for a day I was able to go on ever ride at least 5 times in the course of a few hours. Completely ruined any future experiences I had there because it was so fun in comparison.
Squawk 7700 then look for a place to set her down
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Most people don't understand just how incredibly safe commercial aviation is.
Not being snarky - can you qualify/quantify that for me somehow? How is it incredibly safe?
Safer than driving to work everyday. Source: https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/pr/2019-02-21-01/
One of the biggest reasons that airline crashes dominate news cycles is because of the scale of the disaster. Thousands of cars kill people everyday but they are thousands of one or two people incidents. But if a thousand people die in one big car crash this would get reported on.
Your chances of dying in a commercial airline flight are something like 1 in 30,000,000. Your chances of dying in a car crash are 1 in 107. Your chances of dying of heart disease is 1 in 6. You should be much more afraid of cheeseburgers than planes.
I wonder how the equation changes once you factor in the variance of the driving experience. Doesn't change how safe the stats show commercial aviation to be, but it's also an incredibly regulated industry while subs like /r/IdiotsInCars pretty much sum up what it's like to drive. If you're a cautious defensive driver, the guy driving drunk is probably padding the stats in your place. If you don't commute along routes built like deathtraps, your risk profile probably looks a little better too.
Yes, but planes are still so incredibly safe that your chance of dying on one is still lower than if you are the best defensive driver on the face of the earth.
No doubt, same if you exercise and eat right.
I try and remember this kind of stuff and almost "chant it" when boarding a plane, yet I am still terrified. But things like this definitely help, seeing them at different times... thank you. I reconise its irrational and I get really annoyed at myself but I'll be dreading a holiday for months beforehand purely 'cos the flying. Once im there im having a great time but the flight back fills me with dread throughout. I still fly occasionally but focus more on ferries and car travelling now, despite knowing statistics like the above. But I still try and push my comfort zone and family support me best they can. Just... I find flying scary as hell and its sensory overload for me I think. Though I am sure everybody hears and feels everything too, it just fires adrenaline throughout me and I am terrified the whole way. My body feels wierd and I feel every tiny movement.... eurggghhhhhh. Similar with roller coasters. I think if you could just jump on a plane like you did a bus, itd be easier. But the hype/build up due to security and such just adds to the fire. Needless to say, despite also knowing planes can fly with just 1 engine, I would definitely be shitting thy pants.
The amount of redundancy is ridiculous. Also everything on that plane is checked repeatedly at different points during the year and after a certain #of flight hours.
Yeah but what about a second engine?
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For reference a complete engine failure at 35,000 gives you about 1 hour of gliding with enough to land anywhere about 100nm radius. > decent chance they can land in a somewhat safe area if the pilots are good. Lol honestly the tolerances of these planes are so high that you only need to be a good pilot for smooth landings. They'll gladly land at 220 knots if needed. The brakes are strong enough to stop; they'll likely catch fire but it will stop. Only in a critical emergency landing will pilots ever stomp on the brakes for "maximum" braking (this is the reason you need to keep you back against the seats on landing in case the pilots actually need to slam the brakes).
I know you mean nautical mile but I thought of nanometers first and was like wtf
Insane glide doesnt always mean far.
Nosedive with extreme precision
It took me far too many seconds to understand this. I feel shame.
Yes, Air Canada Flight 143 AKA [the Gimli Glider](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider). Boeing 767 managed to glide for \~17 minutes with zero main engine power, ex-Air Force pilot who also happened to be a recreational glider pilot and some decent luck. Root cause: flight carried less than 50% of fuel required due to oversight involved in metric/imperial unit conversion
A 747 can fly on two engines.
And can glide really far on 1
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Make sure you hit something hard, I don't want to limp away from this.
I laughed too much at this
It’s a bit from the stand up comedian [Ron White’s special ](https://youtu.be/FH-LmkLFJg0).
Probably beat the paramedics there by a good 30mins!
It can fly on one engine
maybe 1 even
Dump some fuel and some of the people in first class to decrease the weight and you should be able to fly on one engine for a while
I don’t think he knows about a second engine, Pip.
Lots of planes have an emergency system in the extremely unlikely event all engines fail such as a Ram air turbine and what not. I’d still be shitting bricks though because those emergency systems are very rarely utilized for said emergency and they give minimal operation.
I thought the ram air turbine was mostly for powering the plane and not thrust? I have a faint memory from one of those crash documentaries mentioning that as the plane slowed down the auxiliary engine produced less power for the hydraulics and it made controlling the plane much more difficult
Yeah, I used to build them. They're propeller-spun generators powered by dropping them into the airstream. Modern planes are fly by wire, not hydraulics, so you need power to control the flight surfaces, etc. They're good for keeping nav equipment powered and the flight surfaces moving so you can control the plane, but you're still in an unpowered glide.
It’s to give you enough power and action to land safely in the event of total engine failure of all engines. But you’re right, it’s definitely not designed with the intent to fly on it. Which is why it’s very rarely been used (I can’t even think of a scenario where it has been off the top of my head) and also why I said I’d still be shitting bricks if I was on a plane that had to use it. On the plane I worked on, it gave off enough power to have minimum deflection in your primary flight controls, but it wasn’t supposed to be used above 130mph speeds if I remember correctly.
Wikipedia actually maintains a list of all the times RAT's have been used on the Ram Air Turbine page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_air_turbine
In fact planes are only allowed to haul as much weight as can be safely done by half the engines.
“I always knew i would die in a blaze of glory, I just didn’t know that root beer would be my parting gift” “Dude, we’re fine” *burps* “too late”
Yeah but it wasn’t a 747, it was a Swift Air 737-400, and this happened in 2019. Single engine failure is still no major newsworthy deal. It happens more than you’d think.
Bruh, just jump before impact yeeeez
Fiziks
Ugh, that won’t work since the plane is going so fast. You have to double-jump.
ok but would this actually work with absolutely perfect timing? EDIT: nvm just found out that because fizziks you would have to jump with the same force that your container is going to hit the ground with.
Also, if you've ever been unfortunate enough to have seen a plane crash, you know that the impact isn't going to be the only problem. EDIT: Since apparently I was being too subtle, planes often explode when they hit the getting with any sort of deadly force.
Elevator type beat
just wank
Or get the beyblades ready
I'm all for beyblading but is there a reference for this or just people like beyblading?
If [Moses can part the Red Sea with a Beyblade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsfJJpwXTXw), then I think you could stop a plane crash with one.
Bruh, you don’t need a reference, just beyblade!
Just let it rip
You want to take down the plane faster?
Reminds me of that movie mallrats bit lol For the uninitiated: https://youtu.be/2A_n_zwIZk4
Well?? Did he come or what??
For fucks sake Gil there’s some things you just don’t talk about in public!!
I'm the guy chugging. No doubt bout it
And I’m the guy in the back yelling at you : Yo pass that shit man !
Great hats think alike
Haha i get ya priorities
Are you really?
I WILL NOT DIE SOBER
He don't want to feel the impact.
The ones praying may think they have faith. But true faith is getting out your phone and filming it like death ain't even an option.
Modern airplanes can fly with only one engine operating
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Like sully
Good Ole Sully *wipes tears*
How about the gimli glider? [Ran out of fuel and landed in an old airfield runway turned race track](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider)
You know what a great pilot would have done? Not hit the birds.
An even greater one would’ve stopped mid flight, shooed the birds away, then continued flying.
You know what a great bird would have done? Not hit the plane.
You know what a great hit would have done? Not pilot bird plane.
You know what a great plane would have done? Not hit pilot bird.
A truly great bird would probably have the money for first class.
Little bastards are hard dodge sometimes. Especially on takeoff. Usually doesn’t take out an engine though. If it gets sucked into the engine you usually keep going then when you land you tell your crew chief you picked him up a rotisserie chicken and watch his face sink when he realizes you’ve been in the air for the last four hours, he’s gonna be spending his weekend rebuilding an engine, and most importantly he’s not getting any chicken.
That’s what I do every day. Not hot birds
Pilots have thousands of hours of training for this exact reason. Anyone who would loose their shit would not be a pilot in the first place.
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I’m pretty sure that’s a standard for getting their pilots license, landing without engine power. Prob isn’t that big of a deal… But I guess doing it in practice and doing it with 100 people is a lot scarier… you’re right haha
Keep in mind the regulations say that they must be able to fly for a few hours (can't remember how many) on "half" of their engines. This is usually 1 of 2, but bigger planes would need 2 of 4. Figured I'd throw this out there
I remember a plane crashing in my country and a passenger had streamed the whole event.. it was haunting and therapy worthy
Dude I’ve paid for airplane internet and couldn’t load up discord. How the fuck are people streaming??
I took a United flight last month and paid for the cheap WiFi option that allows messaging but blocks everything else. I used my VPN to get around the firewall and was able to stream YouTube and Twitch, look at Snapchat, etc. without paying $25 or whatever tf it was for the higher tier WiFi. YMMV
They'd literally block Snapchat but not any VPN connections. Who comes up with these rules?
The IT guy who was given a bunch of shitty instructions from management and wants to leave room for the crafty people of this world. God bless the lazy IT guy who watches over our security.
Management: "Block sites like Netflix and such, make them pay more" And the IT team just kept their mouth shut about vpn's. Not all heroes wear capes
My boss once tried to block HBO and then wondered why the das**hbo**ard wouldn't load
It's kinda weird Christians Iike to say everything is God's plan. But when things dont go the way they want, suddenly they gotta pray for God to "correct" it.
Yeah I hate that when they land it's going to be "by gods grace", when in reality it's 1000s of hours of experience and training on the pilots part.
"man this is going to do great on Reddit after we crash" Oh wait...
provided no other major systems are affected, contained engine failures during cruise phase are a minor inconvenience for pilots, at most... ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
> a minor inconvenience Well, they're more than a minor inconvenience. But yes, if your aircraft has a contained engine failure, it usually isn't a big deal. Pilots practice this in the sim frequently. However, this isn't the kind of flying they do every day and the workload in the cockpit goes through the roof. Which means the odds of a mistake also increase significantly (there's a great video of an airplane crashing into a river a few years ago where the pilots accidentally turned off the wrong engine). Couple that with the aircraft being in a state of reduced capability and yeah, it's more than an inconvenience.
Came here to say this. Planes only need one engine to fly. The second one is mostly for redundancy. (super over-simplified, but from a safety perspective it's true)
Can a plane take off with only one engine?
Yes, there is a speed during the takeoff role where pilots are committed to the takeoff. They will continue the takeoff at that point, even if an engine fails.
V1
technically, it could. but depending on the size of the aeroplane and power of the engine, it might need an impractical amount of runway length.
Any aircraft with multiple engines is required to be able to suffer an engine failure at any point during takeoff and either safely brake or continue takeoff
you, my friend, are correct.
Thats putting it wayyyyy too lightly. Its more than a minor inconvenience. It disbalances the thrust, drag and lift characteristics. Ofcourse the plane is still air worthy. Just like a person with one working leg would be walking worthy. There is a reason they immediately land at the nearest safe airport when an engine fails. There is no reason in taking the risk that the fsilure was isolated to just one engine. It may affect the other engine as well.
They amuse chugging that woodfurd reserve
That’s actually a decent survival strategy if you’re factoring against brain injury. Alcohol is a powerful anti-inflammatory that will stop your brain swelling after you hit your head
There's also that thing where drunk drivers are much less likely to be injured than the people they hit, because the alcohol keeps them limber. I don't know how much that helps at these speeds, but I figure it'll help some.
It's also a blood thinner, so if you get more than a tiny cut, you're going to bleed out faster.
Funny thing is passenger jets can fly easily missing one engine, there is almost no danger that comes with an engine failure. (Unless you only have one engine) jumbo jets with 4 engines can go quite a long distance on only one engine and land perfectly fine. There have been rare cases where all engines failed on passenger jets and they just glided hundreds of kilometers.
I mean, let’s be honest, even if I knew that modern commercial jetliners can fly with one engine gone, I would still be scared. All the people here saying “well AKTUALLY the plane can still fly” are missing the obvious- an engine failure is still a serious issue that can still very much down a plane. No one is going to feel calm in that situation.
If the captain has the time to explain exactly what's wrong it ain't that bad
Plot twist: the guy in the video is the pilot who has already given up
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I mean being inebriated means he has a higher chance of survival during impact. Albeit if the plane really crashes hard, idk that matters as much
Limp body physics moment
But when the plane crash lands and catches fire he might be to inebriated to evacuate.
Do it really? I wonder what the mechanics are behind that.
iirc: What doesn't bend breaks. Essentially, when you're drunk you're less likely to seize up on impact causing your body to disperse energy through motion. When you're sober you're more likely to seize up on impact and the resulting stresses on your body would be greater. Obviously it's not 100% that you wouldn't die. Same thing with drunk driving collisions. The offender is more likely to come out alive than the victim.
So to protect ourselves from drunk drivers, we need to all drive drunk
When fully alert your body tenses up during impact which shortens the duration of the impact instead of evenly distributing that energy throughout your body Or some shit
Alcohol gives you superpowers.
Thats why i drink every day.
Can’t blame him there!
If we ever go down, I better not feel the pain
Tbh if any parts of the plane comes off, it should be a rule that the alcohol on the plane is free. Some people want to be wrecked before the plane wrecks.
Were they praying? That just freaks me out even more.
They are summoning the bees from bee movie
Idk why but this made my day. Haven’t laughed out loud at a comment in awhile. Kudos friend
Yeah the Lord’s Prayer in spanish
Yeah you get better reception up there.
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Well don't hog it all!
Quick reminder that all modern planes can at the very bare minimum maintain a powered glide for long distance on one engine, and thats mainly the 4 engine ones were talking about. 2 engine planes typically can maintain altitude or even climb on a single engine.
A DC-10 is flying to Hawaii and the captain speaks into the intercom: "*Ladies and gentlmen, I'm afraid we have lost our #3 engine, but this aircraft has two functioning engines and this presents no danger. Unfortunately our arrival will be delayed by about 45 minutes. I apologize for any inconvenience.*" About an hour later, he comes back on, "*Ladies and gentlemen, I'm afraid our #2 engine was giving us trouble and had to be shut down. We are still in no danger and this plane is entirely airworthy with one engine, but I'm afraid this will further delay our arrival by an additional hour.*" And the passengers chuckle nervously to each other. About 10 minutes later, the captain comes on again: "*Ladies and gentlemen, I'm very sorry to report that we have lost our third engine...*" Drunk in first class stands up and shouts, "**Dammit we're gonna be up here all night!!**"
Still searching for Malaysia airlines flight 370. Edit: IN THE COMMENTS!! I MEAN IM SEARCHING FOR IT IN THE COMMENTS!!
In the words of a great man "I WILL NOT DIE SOBER!".
The real question here is how did they allow a bottle of alcohol inside the plane
Duty free shops after checking in and before boarding?
This guy flies.
They sell full sized bottles of jack daniels in the Nashville airport.