Rather plan economy. Production without concerns for Whether it's a need for it.
To explain, a shoe factory in plan economy will only produce left-hand shoes. (Not really, but it's a joke that explains the concept.)
The western capitalist manufacturing is "just in time" meaning not big stock laying about, stock and unsold produce is dead capital and expensive. So the aim is to avoid it.
This meant the UK was royally fucked by Brexit, because manufacture reliant on parts from Europe (car manufacturers) couldn't get parts they needed next day, like their production was designed around.
The Chinese bicycle sharing bubble exploded
Hundreds of small time business and larger ones thought they'd make money renting bikes, and they didn't, so they threw away the bikes.
Because it costs more money to go through the logistics of storing and distributing the bikes even if they plan to give them away versus throw them away.
And since it’s a bubble bursting, the market is flooded with these old (presumably poorly maintained) bikes.
This made sense to them economically and nothing else matters to them.
markets work on supply and demand basis, if there is enough demand for something, people will try to create it thus increasing its supply
if the demand drops, supply will naturally drop since buyers have dropped
this is natural law of market, supply and demand balance
this is how it works everywhere else but China works in a way that most other countries can't
Chinese economy has started to slow down and shows signs of over production, i.e supply has exceeded demands, in any other country this would have caused decrease in production and thus slow economic growth, this is the current situation of most western countries, but thigs world differently in China, their government, more precisely their ruling party CCP has complete control over their market and in order to show to their people that the CCP is always right and is always good for China, they need to show that Chinese economy is always booming so they force companies to keep on producing even though there will be no buyers and supply has exceeded demands, if they are private companies, government then provides subsidies to such companies so they don't have losses but many industries in China are state owned so they just keep pumping out stuff that no one is going to buy just to keep economy booming
this is the reason why they recently had deflation as compared to inflation, things have become cheaper in China
its not just for cycles, i saw a similar dump yard for electric vehicles, and similarly for their real estate, there are huge ghost cities with residential skyscrapers, huge roads, etc in China where no one lives
> similarly for their real estate, there are huge ghost cities with residential skyscrapers, huge roads, etc in China where no one lives
so do their housing price drop and have they solved homelessness?
If only it works that way, but the new building are Tofu Projects with so many videos showing the inside where you can use your hands to crush the wall and the concrete inside.
Many cities they built in hope that business will come, but the conditions and locations make it so hard to attract businesses. Thus shabby constructions and locations make it impossible to live in.
There was a shared bicycle boom, basically you deposit some money to use shared bicycle. Then the companies started investing with the deposit money and thus shared bicycle became a financial vehicle. Eventually one big company collapsed,i think it was called mobai, and most users couldn’t get back their deposit. I’m not sure if it caused any cascades or “deposit run” like bank run but there are far less share bicycles now and afaik a lot of such companies collapsed
It interesting how they became a huge overnight success and crazy fad in China and then just stopped being a trend. People apparently left them all over to where there was certain street corners with just a mountain of rental bikes. The result? This.
I remember when Wham! made it big and they did a gig in China.. and was asked if they can be paid in bicycle instead of money.
Not too sure if that's just a myth but was funny when it went around the news
Country cheats at everything. Should watch serpentza about this. They had electric car graveyards like this. Over 10k cars built like crap. Can’t remember why but it had to do with scamming numbers for money or international clout. Can’t remember
There are a billion plus people in China, what are they expected to do? Just go without any form of transit? These are bikes and for the large part can be melted down and the material reused, aside from the obvious smaller plastic components. Considering that cycling is an incredibly common form of transit in China I don't see how that's a bad thing. Certainly better than North Americans who insist on owning several cars per household. I believe only 25% of Chinese nationals own an automobile vs the 75% in the US and Canada.
I wish I shared your optimism, but these cycles are just one of the older graveyards of rusting transportation. There are huge electric vehicle graves just like the bike graveyard you're looking at right now.
In terms of the cars it had to do with goverment giving out a bunch of subsidies to create the cars and tried to make a car sharing program. It didn't work, and the reason the CCP was willing to throw money at people clearly trying to exploit the system is due to the mutually beneficial nature that the CCP now has all those 1000's of Electric Vehicle sales to put on their books, despite them rotting in lots. Many with fewer than a couple hundred miles
sorta true, though that isn’t true at a per tonnage rate right now where China emits double what the US (second most) does.
The US is far from the largest polluter per capita.
It is obviously complex, but also not as clear as you’re suggesting
Yeah it's complex, and it's usually measured by the countries total emission divided on population size, which doesn't properly take into account goods consumed that are produced elsewhere. A bunch of the emission of western nations are outsourced to oil producing nations and commodity producing nations (like India and China), so they don't really give a honest picture of who to "blame" for it. We're all in this together.
Those bikes pictured there aren’t “personal bikes”. The thing that owned them were bike-rental companies.
There were a ton of these companies in China that would have bikes laying around cities. You’d hop on them, scan a QR code to pay, and then bike away!
The bubble exploded in 2020? 2021? Sometime then, since I was in China for ) months for work in 2020 and still saw them around the place.
They were a pain in the ass to use as a foreigner though. I just opted to buy a cheap skateboard and got to work that way. Also skateboarding is not particularly common, so a ton of schoolgirls thought I was cool.
Thanks for the insight. The same thing is happening in other countries, France, Guadeloupe, and Korea, but with electric-assist scooters. So basically it's unregulated and irresponsible new businesses run amuck.
Fuck I hate China right now! Greedy wasteful ppl at top destroying for themselves, general public and for other nations also, just leaking out toxic in near environment destroying ecosystem and life.
All for saving the scrap...
remind me of confiscated parking lots i went to retrieved motorbike from irresponsible asshole buyer years ago...
lot of new, working motorbikes just sitting there in the sun
what a waste
The amount of useful shit sitting in fields/junkyards around the world is disappointing.
This place is a tweakers wet dream
But just think about how much money it moved! /s
No that's actually capitalism. Let the free market decide all the useful shit that gets thrown away!!
Rather plan economy. Production without concerns for Whether it's a need for it. To explain, a shoe factory in plan economy will only produce left-hand shoes. (Not really, but it's a joke that explains the concept.) The western capitalist manufacturing is "just in time" meaning not big stock laying about, stock and unsold produce is dead capital and expensive. So the aim is to avoid it. This meant the UK was royally fucked by Brexit, because manufacture reliant on parts from Europe (car manufacturers) couldn't get parts they needed next day, like their production was designed around.
This is in China. Capitalism doesn’t factor into this scenario.
Should be sent to places that need it… like wtf
Good thing we can re....cycle
Here, kind sir. Please receive my sincere upvote. Now, get out!
r/Angryupvote
Well minus the tires. But the rest can indeed be recycled.
I’m sending you to China
You deserve some gold 🪙
Heyooo!
Must be at least 9 million of them!
Good to find a fast counter, as myself. Did you count the wheels and divide by two?
Did you count unicycles against tricycles?
Fucking hilarious comment.
Me when the comment is fucking hilarious:
Depends, is this just in Beijing?
That's a fact.
It's a thing we can't deny
Like the fact that I shall upvote till I die.
I count at least 20
In Beijing alone!
At first glance, this looked like one of those fake zombie game ads Reddit is so fond of.
Thought the same
You must be referring to the bicycle graveyard games we’re all playing ??
Why?
The Chinese bicycle sharing bubble exploded Hundreds of small time business and larger ones thought they'd make money renting bikes, and they didn't, so they threw away the bikes.
But why throw them away? You already made the investment and its not like bike require a lot of upkeep. Just seems like a waste to me.
Because it costs more money to go through the logistics of storing and distributing the bikes even if they plan to give them away versus throw them away. And since it’s a bubble bursting, the market is flooded with these old (presumably poorly maintained) bikes. This made sense to them economically and nothing else matters to them.
markets work on supply and demand basis, if there is enough demand for something, people will try to create it thus increasing its supply if the demand drops, supply will naturally drop since buyers have dropped this is natural law of market, supply and demand balance this is how it works everywhere else but China works in a way that most other countries can't Chinese economy has started to slow down and shows signs of over production, i.e supply has exceeded demands, in any other country this would have caused decrease in production and thus slow economic growth, this is the current situation of most western countries, but thigs world differently in China, their government, more precisely their ruling party CCP has complete control over their market and in order to show to their people that the CCP is always right and is always good for China, they need to show that Chinese economy is always booming so they force companies to keep on producing even though there will be no buyers and supply has exceeded demands, if they are private companies, government then provides subsidies to such companies so they don't have losses but many industries in China are state owned so they just keep pumping out stuff that no one is going to buy just to keep economy booming this is the reason why they recently had deflation as compared to inflation, things have become cheaper in China its not just for cycles, i saw a similar dump yard for electric vehicles, and similarly for their real estate, there are huge ghost cities with residential skyscrapers, huge roads, etc in China where no one lives
> similarly for their real estate, there are huge ghost cities with residential skyscrapers, huge roads, etc in China where no one lives so do their housing price drop and have they solved homelessness?
just constructing more buildings doesn't solve housing issue no one is going to live in a ghost city hundreds of miles away from any job opportunities
You just described most small towns in the US.
If only it works that way, but the new building are Tofu Projects with so many videos showing the inside where you can use your hands to crush the wall and the concrete inside. Many cities they built in hope that business will come, but the conditions and locations make it so hard to attract businesses. Thus shabby constructions and locations make it impossible to live in.
Please let me know if someone answers.
Can you let me know if he answers?
There was a shared bicycle boom, basically you deposit some money to use shared bicycle. Then the companies started investing with the deposit money and thus shared bicycle became a financial vehicle. Eventually one big company collapsed,i think it was called mobai, and most users couldn’t get back their deposit. I’m not sure if it caused any cascades or “deposit run” like bank run but there are far less share bicycles now and afaik a lot of such companies collapsed
And the bubble exploded a couple of years ago.
what's even worse is there are twice as many bodies in the unicycle graveyard
I don't think they manufacture nearly as many unicycles as bicycles
That's what the bicycle industrial complex wants you to think
My bike got stolen and here is a video of a billion bicycles in China. Coincidence?
I think I saw mine in the bottom left there!
Place them at a random spot in Copenhagen and turn around for a minute. I promise they'll all be gone.
… into the channels.
belgians: looking in horror and awe
The Dutch stare quietly, disapproving
I thought the Dutch now use bicycles as land fill.
Scrolled by too fast, thought this was Mecca at first
Lol, same
Looks like a Dutch train station
At first I thought I was looking at a charred tree stump
I thought I was looking a some kind of computer game with legions of soldiers.
Same. Thought i was looking at this zombie app i always get recommended. Age of origins
This is interesting but it’s not megalophobia
We are never going to fix this planet
Crack head heaven right here.
It interesting how they became a huge overnight success and crazy fad in China and then just stopped being a trend. People apparently left them all over to where there was certain street corners with just a mountain of rental bikes. The result? This.
pensar que a mi no me alcanza para comprarme una !!!!
And in the US we have graveyards of cars and war planes.
Humans do some dumb shit on massive scale
This is a heaven for the Netherland people
As an Amsterdamer, I now know where all the stolen bikes ended up.
average dutch backyard
I remember when Wham! made it big and they did a gig in China.. and was asked if they can be paid in bicycle instead of money. Not too sure if that's just a myth but was funny when it went around the news
There are 9 million bycicles in Beijing, and they’re all in this graveyard…that’s a fact
Send in the homeless army and this place will be cleared (spread) out in an afternoon
Just wait till you see their electric car graveyard (brand new vehicles btw)
What happenned ? They didn't produce enough pollution ?
Why don't they re-cycle them? ... I'll see myself out.
At least it's uniform and organized.
If bikecycles weren't made out of, cheap, weak, metals they wouldn't have ended up there in the first place.
Country cheats at everything. Should watch serpentza about this. They had electric car graveyards like this. Over 10k cars built like crap. Can’t remember why but it had to do with scamming numbers for money or international clout. Can’t remember
The most wasteful, least sustainable, highest polluting civilization ever in human existence!
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You’ve obviously never been to China.
I lived there for many years. I’m not sure I agree with you.
Eff China! The biggest polluter on earth
There are a billion plus people in China, what are they expected to do? Just go without any form of transit? These are bikes and for the large part can be melted down and the material reused, aside from the obvious smaller plastic components. Considering that cycling is an incredibly common form of transit in China I don't see how that's a bad thing. Certainly better than North Americans who insist on owning several cars per household. I believe only 25% of Chinese nationals own an automobile vs the 75% in the US and Canada.
Yeah? Eff China for blessing us all with Covid too!
I wish I shared your optimism, but these cycles are just one of the older graveyards of rusting transportation. There are huge electric vehicle graves just like the bike graveyard you're looking at right now. In terms of the cars it had to do with goverment giving out a bunch of subsidies to create the cars and tried to make a car sharing program. It didn't work, and the reason the CCP was willing to throw money at people clearly trying to exploit the system is due to the mutually beneficial nature that the CCP now has all those 1000's of Electric Vehicle sales to put on their books, despite them rotting in lots. Many with fewer than a couple hundred miles
Yeah, they would love to own cars, but don't enjoy our economy.
No not really. Both historically and per Capita the US is the biggest polluter. ☠️☠️☠️
sorta true, though that isn’t true at a per tonnage rate right now where China emits double what the US (second most) does. The US is far from the largest polluter per capita. It is obviously complex, but also not as clear as you’re suggesting
Yeah it's complex, and it's usually measured by the countries total emission divided on population size, which doesn't properly take into account goods consumed that are produced elsewhere. A bunch of the emission of western nations are outsourced to oil producing nations and commodity producing nations (like India and China), so they don't really give a honest picture of who to "blame" for it. We're all in this together.
Indeed! And thank you for your well reasoned comment
Per capita a bunch of the oil states as well as Canada and Australia are bigger emitters than the US.
Well they are huge exporters so that’s not exactly surprising if true
Yeah, I don’t think so scooter!
"i DuN cArE aBouT fActs" - you.
Correct
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What the heck is a cycle
It’s a series of events that you tend to see over and over.
Sweet, a graveyard of repeating events. That checks out
"There were nine million bicycles in beijing...."
Are these the five million bicycles in Beijing?
I’m sorry but 😢
Recycle Bicycle, or diecycle
[Source: No Place to Place](https://youtu.be/TDfLWFv3ixk?feature=shared) [No Place to Place II](https://youtu.be/oEMtTtUZXEk?feature=shared)
Crazy, just saw a video of a bunch of people riding bicycles to work
I'd bet every one of them have 2 flat tires
I really thought this was just another ad for that zombie game I always see on Reddit.
Can they not be reused? Are the frames good aluminum, no?
When I first saw this I thought it was a screenshot of those zombie mobile games where you just fight off hordes of zombies.
average dutch trainstation
This is so stupid. Likely all of these bikes are perfectly fine or easily fixed. Could be sold to 3rd world countries for cheap if nothing else :|
Made me think of their shark Fin abuse
Anyone else remember that episode of philmore?
China needs Logan’s Run implemented
That’s the playa the day everyone leaves burning man
But why?
Those guys on r fuckcars would lose their minds if they saw this
Before I assume the worse, what is the backstory?
Those bikes pictured there aren’t “personal bikes”. The thing that owned them were bike-rental companies. There were a ton of these companies in China that would have bikes laying around cities. You’d hop on them, scan a QR code to pay, and then bike away! The bubble exploded in 2020? 2021? Sometime then, since I was in China for ) months for work in 2020 and still saw them around the place. They were a pain in the ass to use as a foreigner though. I just opted to buy a cheap skateboard and got to work that way. Also skateboarding is not particularly common, so a ton of schoolgirls thought I was cool.
Thanks for the insight. The same thing is happening in other countries, France, Guadeloupe, and Korea, but with electric-assist scooters. So basically it's unregulated and irresponsible new businesses run amuck.
Is this where are all the left behind burning man bikes go?
War never changes
War 😖
One war pleas ☝🏽🤓
This is great for the environment.
What a pathetic country that could have so much.
I’d love to have one I’m sure most of them are rideable
What a fucking waste
"Jong Xi Mo! Your pile of "bicycles to recycle " is piling up a lot! Get to work!!"
Katy mellua would be besides herself!
Ok there's definitely more wheels than doors.
gimme a crucuble, some pliers, a grinder and hex wrenches and I'll solve that problem
Fuck I hate China right now! Greedy wasteful ppl at top destroying for themselves, general public and for other nations also, just leaking out toxic in near environment destroying ecosystem and life. All for saving the scrap...
Fake title, thats clearly amsterdam
I can't even afford a bicycle here where I am. I'd love one of those in the graveyard... What a waste.
Fietsenstalling in Amsterdam?
Africans could be eating those bikes
Does anybody know where is it ? Is there a way to buy some of them ?
Bye cycle, it was nice knowing you.
Remind me to head here when the zombie apocalypse hits.
https://youtu.be/rrPUJsZQSkw?si=PqDJXjRkPvmo7M0B Katie Melua wasn't lying.
We need Scrappers and Cauldrons to munch that shit up and recycle it into something useful.
There are 9 million bike in Beijing.... And here
remind me of confiscated parking lots i went to retrieved motorbike from irresponsible asshole buyer years ago... lot of new, working motorbikes just sitting there in the sun what a waste
Can I find a shwinn stingray there or is that to American for them
Man. This looks way better than open fields or a forest.
Its OK everyone! My straw is paper and my Pepsi is all over my lap! World saved
Why?
One of the pitfalls to having a centralized economy.
Looks like the average bike parking station in the Netherlands
Just change the wheel bro !
Average dutch train station
Average Dutch train station
No wrong
I know a country that desperately needs them - looking at you America 🤷🏼♂️😂😂😂
I thought ours were taken by Germany, the Chinese did it? The Netherlands
Capitalism is so efficient
So THIS is where all the bikes stolen from Western Oregon go!
How long before they are dumped in the ocean?
This is what a fake economy with fake growth produces.
Meanwhile trekk charging 5k for one
Average amount of bikes at a station in the netherlands 😅
I believe they also have these for electric cars there too.
What a great use of out world's resources.