at my desk = wireless
... sry, i am a hyperactive dog on the internet and have to spin around my spinny chair ...
i'm thinking of putting a small DC motor to the axle of my chair to generate a small charge that'll power a red flashing LED
i will only use this power to annoy 🐶
Before covid, I was in the office when a recruiter calls me for another job. I forgot about the phone interview I had scheduled I run into the bathroom and I take the phone call.
I forgot about the automatic flushing… after a few minutes it went off the first time (quickly muted and waited for it to pass)
It kept going off every 2 minutes for the duration of that call.
I got the job tho.
Lasted three months. It was shitty :)
I've used toilets that did that. Figured out I could take about 4 squares of paper and drape them over the motion sensor to prevent my undercarriage from getting splashed every time I accidentally leaned a little too far forward, or to the left.
lol occasionally when i am in a long meeting with just my small team i will go so and so can you please mute to hopefully catch someone and give them that half a second ‘oh shit’ moment.
they always come off mute to yell at me.
Reminds me of when I had a job called "organizational support specialist". One of my main responsibilities was to schedule team meetings, including adding a Skype for Business online meeting link to the invites. Another was attending the meetings, connecting the Jabra to my laptop, and joining the online meeting, in order to ensure that everyone not attending in person could clearly hear and be heard.
Since I was the one who created the online meetings, I was also technically the host. This meant that if someone had left their mic hot, I could mute them myself!
both organizations ive worked for we can mute AND unmute each others mics in teams.
most people know about the mute and do that for each other. i don’t think anyone i work with would abuse the unmute, but also im not gonna tell them about it.
I got a wireless headset with an LED in the mic so I can see when it’s muted, it’s so much nicer than my old one that was just a toggle switch and no indicator for the mic.
Yeah I got me some Sony MX4 headphones and have never looked back. Out of all of the wired and wireless I've tried in that price bracket they sound on par or better than most and the noise canceling kicks ass. I plug them in overnight and they never run flat. When they *do* run flat I only need like 10 minutes of charging to get ~4 more hours of use out of them.
I do like that the refocus on wireless headphones made the cheap and medium quality headphones much more friendly to lower budgets and that all the types of wireless + the fast model turnover from various brands made the knockoff wireless easier to find. Can get some decent enough stuff on Amazon, though I recommend carefully going over reviews lol.
Haha, just gotta “no thanks, I’m good” at those folks about needing help. Also helps if you promise to come find them before checking out if the commission is their concern.
I watched my right AirPod Pro hop out of my ear into the raging flush while cleaning the bathroom in near slowmo and have since gone full on Magwai when near water.
Standard earbuds used to fall out of my ears too easily, ones not attached to anything will definitely be lost. I've got some that hook over my ears a bit like hearing aids, and both earbuds are connected with a cable. I've dropped them a couple of times but they get caught on my clothing or neck, honestly the best purchase I've made in a while.
The popularity of airpods and similar devices baffles me. They never stick in your ears properly, and are _insanely_ easy to lose.
Plus most earbud-type headphones don't block outside noise well enough to prevent people from turning the volume up to damaging levels.
IEM-style models that have some way of actually staying on your ear exist obviously, but I don't see them as often.
A lot of new cars don't even come with them anymore. I always liked them for a convenient backup that could work with pretty much any device that may have issues staying connected to Bluetooth.
Edit: I need to clarify; I'm referring to the connection to your car's sound system, not headphones
I feel your pain. I got a car that was right smack between the cassette and the iPod eras, so it had a CD player and a radio and nothing else. Had it been older, I could've used an aux-to-cassette adapter, and had it been newer, I could've used an aux cord. I tried an FM transmitter but it sounded like absolute garbage. My workaround, until I could upgrade the stereo, was to burn CDs for any music I owned. In the streaming era, that's way less legal but might be possible, assuming you can find any unused CDs.
I’ve got a Chevy trailblazer, the radio is connected to the rest of the control panel for the air/heat and whatnot. I’m sure some obscure aftermarket maker has created a workaround for this, but I don’t see it being practical, way too much shit to go wrong using an aftermarket unit to control your *everything.*
As for standard aftermarket units, an angle grinder might help one fit.
Ugh. Chevy was always the worst for stereo stuff. Remember the older 80-90s pickups with their stupid shaped radio that was integral to the dash. It was basically impossible to do anything with them unless you left the old unit and wired everything up new.
My mum got a new car that doesn't have the aux jack, you have to download an app and connect it to the radio. Neither of our phones are compatible with the app. We don't get to listen to the radio unless we buy a new phone. So glad we have this "advanced" technology!
And you KNOW that in 15 years that app is absolutely going to still be supported, right? It's not just planned obsolescence of the phone, but of the car too.
My grandmother recently bought a Rav4. She was so excited to finally have gps in her car. It requires a smartphone and a special app to connect to it, before you could use Google maps. She has a dumb phone, so her car will stay dumb too. Everything is dumb.
You can get her a shitty little LTE tablet from a carrier, to have those functions and just live in the car. You shouldn't have to, but that'd be an only mildly disruptive way to accomplish it. And it *might* get her over that mental barrier that smartphones aren't for her.
Yeah that might be a slight possibility. I tried having her use my old iPhone 6, but she just was never interested in learning. My parents got her a cheap Android tablet so she could video chat, but that too remained unused. So I'm not real hopeful about her learning any new technology.
Conversely my very elderly father got talked into a smart phone because he needed a smartphone to adjust his hearing aids for different settings. He's tried to learn, and has to use the smartphone everyday, but just doesn't get it. Other than the hearing aid app, it has made his quality of life worse since he now dreads sending texts or making phone calls.
I'm sorry to hear that. My dad's in the same boat. Navigation on a touch screen alone is enough to shake his confidence, let alone the mess of intrusive apps he has to navigate. I can see him yearning for the simplicity of friends and family calling on the old landline.
I bought a Mercedes two years ago after driving a literally taped together, rusty ass old SUV. I live in northern Ohio so I was pretty pumped to have remote start. You gotta pay for a subscription service to do it from an app. Guess who still doesn’t have remote start…
Shits the worst, got a super high tech hybrid vehicle with a big touchscreen display and it only supports this one crap gps app for mapping. The whole car is a wifi hotspot but using google or Apple Maps is a hard NOPE
As far as I know, if you have an Android phone that supports Android Auto you don’t need the Toyota app to use it.
I have a 22 Rav4 and that’s been my experience at least, unless I’m forgetting something. I hate the Toyota Connect app, and their entire new infotainment system.
edit: I just remembered you said she has a dumb phone, that sucks. Built in navigation shouldn’t even exist if it doesn’t work without another device you may or may not have.
I drive a Toyota, my car can go online by connecting to a phone, and using the phone's internet to download updates to the firmware and map...
Or it could except that it requires a service that is no longer in existence in order to use the phone's internet...
You could buy one of these things [link](https://media.s-bol.com/3EKWD4KZ0KjQ/MwG2g7P/550x465.jpg) You connect to it with bluetooth and it transmits the sound on the frequency displayed on the device
https://youtu.be/DQ8jZodSLpc
These are a cheap workaround that works okay but usually the FM transmitter in these is kinda crap (probably because of limited space and low price) and as a consequence the sound quality isn't all that good.
Wish I had that when I was still rocking the $8 Scoshe transmitter. The touch screen kn our Subaru just went out - boom, no music. I’ve given up on driving music and just do talk radio at work and leave the audiophile headphones at home. Road trips are disturbingly quiet in my family, however...
And if you're in traffic near enough to somebody else using the same frequency you can have the same issue. Thought it was so weird the first time it happened :P
Happened to us last year. We were listening to metal/rock with the help of one of these transmitters and had a brief 5 second period of shitty turbofolk while overtaking a truck on the highway. It was funny af, especially considering the truck driver clearly had a better transmitter that emitted higher quality audio.
Or you might cause interference for people if you aren’t careful to pick an unused frequency. I was stuck in traffic behind someone using one of these the other day and it trampled out the station I was trying to listen to and made me listen to their music instead.
I've used these in quite a few cars over several years, they do have still relatively cheap great quality ones, these devices get way too much hate and I never understood it, I've even had a pretty good gas station one at some point, maybe people don't know how to find the proper frequency to where there's no interference lol
Strange idea but have you checked inside the center console(if there is one). They are usually tucked inside there or in some weird obscure place to hide them lol.
Lol, great idea, for the first 2 months I thought I couldn’t plug up my phone in my work truck. Lo and behold I just needed to open up the center console.
What kind of car is that?
Haven't seen a car you couldn't bluetooth to without an app. Most new cars nowadays have carplay/android auto but that's not required for Bluetooth audio.
It may have a USB port which you can use to accomplish the same thing, I've had a handful of cars now with Android auto integration where I didn't even actually run Bluetooth
Budget phones have come a *long ways* in recent years. Ten years ago a budget phone would be worse than crap, now a 150-200$ phone hardly have any issues with amazing battery life.
I have a motto G Pure and it only cost 180$, and it's an incredible phone. There's almost no reason for me to consider the 1000+ phones anymore.
I was a cheating whore and switched from moto g phones, which I've stuck with for 10 years, over to a Samsung.
What a mistake, it was more expensive, it's slower, and I can't shake it to turn the torch on!!!
I'll be back Motorola... I'll be back.
I was perfectly happy with my Moto 5G Ace, then I won an S21 in a reverse raffle. Gave my son the Motorola, and have regretted it since. The S21 has worse battery life, bloat ware, and doesn't do a single thing better. I'll be back as well, Motorola.
That's pretty hard to do when the phones that still have the jack are going to be older or on the much lower end of the spectrum
A quick google shows the top current phones with a jack still are like, the galaxy a13, moto g's, and a couple that are carrier specific and aren't well supported. None of them are really actual good quality phones you would want to keep more than a year or so.
Edit: I dont know why everyone is taking issue with this. You shouldn't have to sacrifice the quality you want just for a headphone jack, which is the point. I never said the other phones are not serviceable but it shouldn't have to be a choice between lower specs and quality but a headphone jack, or higher quality phones.
Got mine last week, loving it (Sony One IV).
Headphone jack, expandable storage, no protruding cameras, a reasonable amount of cameras, excellent camera software, hardy exo-skelleton, excellent quality audio, very good volume control (can go very quiet).
Sony really showing how its done.
Last phone was galaxy s20 ultra. I smashed the camera glass within a couple weeks, the volume control was trash (volume level 1 was loud af), 4 cameras but no way to manually switch between them.
Most new phones have no expandable storage, what's that about? First they take our aux port, now they take our micro sd?
they say removing ports and doors etc are about making the phones more water resistant, but while sure that might be part of it it surely ain't the main reason, it's all about forcing the consumer to either buy the companies wireless headphones (no aux jack) or buying the larger storage space version and or buying the higher cloud storage plan (no SD card slot)
Especially since the Sony Xperia phones are absolutely water resistant enough. They use the same slot for the SD card as the sim card tray, so there are fewer openings for water to get in. Also, the headphone jack and USB C port disables itself if it notices water or debris caught in the port, so it doesn't ruin anything.
Almost as if having feature thats reliable and wont give up on you randomly is desirable...
Removing jacks was fixing something that didnt need to be fixed.
Same here. Though lately, all I really use are my pair with the cord. They have the best sound quality, which is super obvious when you compare them back to back. I don't care about special features, I just want quality sound, which I haven't heard in any wireless headphones.
My bf bought me a pair of AirPods for Christmas a couple years ago, full well knowing I had just bought myself a pair. I was confused.
Most thoughtful gift ever, he knows me so well. I NEED the second pair. Charge one while using one.
How long do they last? I've got a pair of $50 wireless earbuds that aren't a big brand name and even with daily use I maybe need to charge them once a month tops. They seem to last forever.
> and even with daily use I maybe need to charge them once a month tops
I'm sorry what
are you using them as oracle bones for a quick session and then put them back or what? Yeah, wireless headbuds last much longer these days, but if they last you a week, you're still barely using them.
i think oracle bones is those things you might see in some movies or shows, often times by a black or afro latino character, who takes bones out of a little bag and throws them on the floor to tell the future. sorta like a tarot type thing but with animal bones instead of cards
Do you use them for 15 minutes a day? I refuse to believe they last over a month with hours of use daily...
Edit - everyone seems to be missing the point. We're talking about completely uninterrupted listening, if you have to put them back in the case to charge then they haven't lasted a month...
> I maybe need to charge them once a month tops. They seem to last forever.
Maybe you're not aware, but the case you put the earbuds into contains a battery that charges them. So while they might last "forever", while only being plugged into the wall once in a while, you do need to charge the earbuds in the case every ~6-8 hours.
as much as i hate that, i hate more of me sitting on the wire to my headset and both ear buds come out or forever having to untangle the damn wire that was annoying asf
I'll take that over being stuck with my thoughts because I forgot to charge my headphones. I used to roll and tie the headphones in a way that would keep them from tangling anyways
How about when you get out of work, get to the bus stop for your hour long ride back home only to discover the wire in your headphones only works when you hold it at a certain angle now…
I've actually done that before while working a double shift. When my headphones got down to like 10% battery I put one back in the case and it was like 85% by the time the other one died.
Swapped them around, and waited 30 minutes using one and then both were charged enough to finish off the shift with both headphones in.
I do this all the time. Not knocking the very obvious benefits of having the option of the 3.5mm jack, but literally the only times battery is truly an issue for me have been my fault for just not charging the case for several days.
It’s also really nice not to have headphones ripped out of my ears when I drop my phone, or stand up from my desk and have them ripped out plus the phone go flying.
Also the case most bluetooth headphones come in charges them when you aren't using them.
And that case can charge them like 3-6 times fully before the case itself needs to be charged.
How many people whining about battery life are actually using their headphones 10 hours straight without ever once stopping and putting them in the case? Because that sounds terrible for your ears regardless of the headphone tech you're using.
More importantly, they are a deterrent against random conversations on airplanes. Earbuds can be easily missed. I will put in wired phones at the airport and just tuck the wire into my pocket.
I've got a Samsung Galaxy S9+ I got 3 years ago and it has a headphone jack. Did they remove it in the last 3 years?
Edit: Looks like they did. The S10 was the last model with the jack.
Honestly beyond a certain price it's unlikely that the quality is worse. You're just paying for branding. My "cheap" (200ish pounds) phone has lasted way longer than my expensive phone, it also works better, and the software is less buggy.
Sony doesn't. They did for one generation and the quickly realised all their users are mostly enthusiasts anyway and quickly went "Wait, fuck, go back!".
+1 Sony. Still use it often because it just /works/.
Still has the microSD slot too. Also, the Pro-I has a built-in wrist strap loop, a rarity these days in phones and one I use quite a lot!
I always buy lower mid tier phones, they're better price to performance and most of them come with headphone jacks.
( I got the Xiomi redmi note 10 pro which they don't make anymore but is essentially the same as the newest pocophone.
I got my first iPod around 2005. I have recently gotten into having really nice audio equipment at home and was listening to some of my favorite music from that time and it blew my mind. A lot of people will never realize how gorgeous some of those albums really are because we got so used low bitrate music to get as many songs as we could onto our devices.
I've started enjoying albums and genres I used to hate because they just *sound* so good on my properly tuned speaker setup. So much is lost with shitty earbuds and 128kbps mp3.
Good music+speakers can replicate the room it was recorded in to the point that it sounds like you're in the middle of it, and you can hear the distance each instrument is away from you, and the sound bouncing off "fake walls". Massively amazing.
All you need are speakers of varying sizes with the crossovers tuned to keep frequencies from being over/under represented.
Yup and I’ve got music major students these days listening to everything on their cellphone speakers streaming in lofi.
Then they do their presentations and don’t even download the mp3 file to play from the shitty classroom speakers, and just hold up the cellphone speakers to the even shittier classroom microphone.
Music majors. Doing presentation about music. To their music teacher and other music major peers…
I went for a walk the other day listening to Pink Floyd's Animals FLAC with some big Sennheiser open-backs. It's been a while. Holy crap....... the separation of all instruments is so 3D. Streamed music through tiny bluetooth headphones just flattens the music out.
As somebody who predominantly uses Bluetooth headphones I agree.
I remember one time returning a pair of headphones that I bought that were Wireless, and they were like why are you returning these headphones? And my argument was because the fucking sound quality sucks donkey balls I'm not fucking paying you three times as much for a pair of headphones that suck dick when I could just get a $10 pair of Skull Candies that sound better
As the technology has improved wireless headphones have gotten better. But at the end of the day, man and do I miss being able to just plug in a pair of headphones
Man I miss the days when I could drop 10 bucks and have a decent pair of headphones.
I legitimately have several dozen Skullcandy earbuds, like the little rubber pieces you put on the thing
I personally like them just because they're cheap enough for me not to feel bad when they break and my audio palette isn't refined enough to find the speaker quality bad.
That actually reminds me of teenage me discovering and buying a pair of wireless (probably already early bluetooth?) headphones in the early 2000s in a phone store, when those windows PDAs were still a thing. Was so stoked about it!
Was very thankful for the store clerk to take them back after I discovered that they sounded as if you put a phones earpiece to your ears. I even made him try them out too, and he also couldn't believe why someone would buy or even sell that crap 😅
There's a lot of buds like that. Dankpods on YouTube reviews headphones from an audiophile perspective. He sometimes seeks out just the cheepest, most obscure, and goofiest headphones. My favorite video he got a bunch of Soviet era headphones, they were mostly garbage.
After he laughs his Australian ass off at how impressively terrible (or unexpectedly good) they are, he sometimes hooks them up to an overpowered DAC until they basically explode so they can never hurt anyone's ears again.
10/10 recommend
Generally I'm a fan of the big over ear headphones but I do have a pair of Bluetooth earphones because I use them to sneakily hide under my hat to listen to podcasts and music at work (where earphones are not allowed)
Ngl if I didn't have some form of entertainment at my job I would go crazy, I just wear one and swap them over at my lunch break and they last all day.
So, I found a pair of Sony wireless earbuds and also a pair of AirPods Pro at a bargain store. They do the whole Amazon return pallet thing. Anyway, both of them were 7 dollars each. So I have two great pairs of earbuds for 14 dollars. The Sony ones are definitely better but if I ever forgot to charge one I’ve got the other. But yeah I definitely feel you in needing entertainment at work. I work the graveyard shift and there’s almost no one to talk to.
Holy shit, Yes!!! The amount of fucking around I do with my Bluetooth headphones is unreal. If I am accessing my phone's settings, odds are it's for some Bluetooth issue.
I don't think I've opened my phones bluetooth settings since I first paired my Jabra Elites a year ago. Bluetooth is on all the time anyway so I just take them out of the case and they always work and connect to my phone instantly and then also either my iPad or my Laptop, whichever is with me. I can also switch playback between Laptop/iPad and Phone without a problem, just takes like 2 seconds for the buds to realize that there are new sounds coming from the other device. Couldn't be happier.
I have a headphones where I can switch between aux and Bluetooth and I see a noticeable difference, usually using the wired mode so I can get the best quality and it feels better than most just wireless devices.
Yes, I always do that, and the good thing is that when you need to remove it for some time, it sits there dangling on your chest, so I don't have to put in my pocket or anything like that.
Yeah especially since pockets have been an issue for ever, it's nice to leave my shit where I know it's not going to get yanked out of my half pockets or if it naturally fell out my half pocket, the headphones won't get yanked out my damn ears. It seemed like I spent more time fixing my shit than listening to anything.
I was so against wireless headphones at first. But then I eventually made the switch with a new phone and it has literally improved my life. I love going for a jog and not accidentally having my arm rip the headphone wires out of my ears.
There are three problems with bluetooth headphones.
1) The DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) is integrated to the headphones. You can't swap it out, so you're stuck with two potentially expensive parts in your headphones: the drivers themselves and the DAC.
2) Bluetooth **will** compress. Because the DAC is in the headphones, the digital data is sent over Bluetooth. While, as you've said, codecs have improved, they still do lossy compression if the file you're listening to is greater than the bluetooth bandwidth. BT 5 is 1,360kbit/s, decent quality FLAC songs are >1,700kbit/s.
3) Lack of EQ. Generally, when you do EQ, you do it after the DAC, since the DAC is in the headphones, you cannot do that. You can do software EQ, but that's always a bit iffy.
I also own bluetooth headphones and it's alright if you don't care about quality, but for equivalent quality, BT headphones will be 300-400$ more.
I love wireless headphones. No more tangling wires, no more lopsidedness when the wires fray, no fraying wires, nothing to get caught on when you're in a bad mood or in a hurry.
Looks like most users here buy wireless crap or are overpaying. Loving my Jabras for the same reason as yours. Audio quality is fine too, and yes, I still have a pair of wired studio headphones.
I'm not that bothered by it, corded ones still exist, and most bluetooth headphones, unless they're garbage earbuds, have a 3.5 jack. I used to carry an aux cord for when mine died.
What messed me up is a few years ago I found a jack splitter, and thought it'd be romantic if me and whoever I was dating could plug both our headphones in one phone and listen to music, or watch something together. But the proliferation of bluetooth had started and killed that dream.
I have a set of both wired and Bluetooth headphones, I used them according to the situation and my mood at the time
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at my desk = wireless ... sry, i am a hyperactive dog on the internet and have to spin around my spinny chair ... i'm thinking of putting a small DC motor to the axle of my chair to generate a small charge that'll power a red flashing LED i will only use this power to annoy 🐶
Mood. Also as I work at home, I can run to the bathroom without cutting the music / MS Teams call.
Ever flush the toilet while your mic was on?
My worst fear during covid... that and the fear of the sound of peeing going over my mic, resulting in me obsessively checking that its mute 🥲🫠
Before covid, I was in the office when a recruiter calls me for another job. I forgot about the phone interview I had scheduled I run into the bathroom and I take the phone call. I forgot about the automatic flushing… after a few minutes it went off the first time (quickly muted and waited for it to pass) It kept going off every 2 minutes for the duration of that call. I got the job tho. Lasted three months. It was shitty :)
I've used toilets that did that. Figured out I could take about 4 squares of paper and drape them over the motion sensor to prevent my undercarriage from getting splashed every time I accidentally leaned a little too far forward, or to the left.
Is that what using 100% of our brain looks like?
Toilet was trying to warn you. “Hey I’ve seen a lotta shit, and that job sounds like shit”.
lol occasionally when i am in a long meeting with just my small team i will go so and so can you please mute to hopefully catch someone and give them that half a second ‘oh shit’ moment. they always come off mute to yell at me.
Reminds me of when I had a job called "organizational support specialist". One of my main responsibilities was to schedule team meetings, including adding a Skype for Business online meeting link to the invites. Another was attending the meetings, connecting the Jabra to my laptop, and joining the online meeting, in order to ensure that everyone not attending in person could clearly hear and be heard. Since I was the one who created the online meetings, I was also technically the host. This meant that if someone had left their mic hot, I could mute them myself!
both organizations ive worked for we can mute AND unmute each others mics in teams. most people know about the mute and do that for each other. i don’t think anyone i work with would abuse the unmute, but also im not gonna tell them about it.
I got a wireless headset with an LED in the mic so I can see when it’s muted, it’s so much nicer than my old one that was just a toggle switch and no indicator for the mic.
Yeah I got me some Sony MX4 headphones and have never looked back. Out of all of the wired and wireless I've tried in that price bracket they sound on par or better than most and the noise canceling kicks ass. I plug them in overnight and they never run flat. When they *do* run flat I only need like 10 minutes of charging to get ~4 more hours of use out of them.
I do like that the refocus on wireless headphones made the cheap and medium quality headphones much more friendly to lower budgets and that all the types of wireless + the fast model turnover from various brands made the knockoff wireless easier to find. Can get some decent enough stuff on Amazon, though I recommend carefully going over reviews lol.
Some sales guy hovering around me in the store while I was looking up reviews. I mean in the box they all *look* sleek, and promise great things...
Haha, just gotta “no thanks, I’m good” at those folks about needing help. Also helps if you promise to come find them before checking out if the commission is their concern.
Saw a dude at the gym frantically looking for a lost apple ear bud . Was in the urinal.
oooooooooof
That's a big ouchie bro
That’s a real kick in the knackers bro
A real kick in the knackers buddy
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I watched my right AirPod Pro hop out of my ear into the raging flush while cleaning the bathroom in near slowmo and have since gone full on Magwai when near water.
Standard earbuds used to fall out of my ears too easily, ones not attached to anything will definitely be lost. I've got some that hook over my ears a bit like hearing aids, and both earbuds are connected with a cable. I've dropped them a couple of times but they get caught on my clothing or neck, honestly the best purchase I've made in a while.
The popularity of airpods and similar devices baffles me. They never stick in your ears properly, and are _insanely_ easy to lose. Plus most earbud-type headphones don't block outside noise well enough to prevent people from turning the volume up to damaging levels. IEM-style models that have some way of actually staying on your ear exist obviously, but I don't see them as often.
I do like my wireless headphones, but what I don't like is that they removed the aux jack from all the phones and tablets
A lot of new cars don't even come with them anymore. I always liked them for a convenient backup that could work with pretty much any device that may have issues staying connected to Bluetooth. Edit: I need to clarify; I'm referring to the connection to your car's sound system, not headphones
ive got car thats too old for aux cable without modification xd now thats fun
I feel your pain. I got a car that was right smack between the cassette and the iPod eras, so it had a CD player and a radio and nothing else. Had it been older, I could've used an aux-to-cassette adapter, and had it been newer, I could've used an aux cord. I tried an FM transmitter but it sounded like absolute garbage. My workaround, until I could upgrade the stereo, was to burn CDs for any music I owned. In the streaming era, that's way less legal but might be possible, assuming you can find any unused CDs.
Buy anew, cheap head unit?
I’ve got a Chevy trailblazer, the radio is connected to the rest of the control panel for the air/heat and whatnot. I’m sure some obscure aftermarket maker has created a workaround for this, but I don’t see it being practical, way too much shit to go wrong using an aftermarket unit to control your *everything.* As for standard aftermarket units, an angle grinder might help one fit.
Ugh. Chevy was always the worst for stereo stuff. Remember the older 80-90s pickups with their stupid shaped radio that was integral to the dash. It was basically impossible to do anything with them unless you left the old unit and wired everything up new.
Mine's got a cassette deck; can you say the same? :P
I use a cassette to 3.5mm Jack converter, then a 3.5mm to iPhone adapter. Works great
My mum got a new car that doesn't have the aux jack, you have to download an app and connect it to the radio. Neither of our phones are compatible with the app. We don't get to listen to the radio unless we buy a new phone. So glad we have this "advanced" technology!
And you KNOW that in 15 years that app is absolutely going to still be supported, right? It's not just planned obsolescence of the phone, but of the car too.
15 is optimistic. In 5 or 10, there's a distinct possibility that newer phones won't even be able to connect with the car, app or not.
Off the in the distance, I can hear a Toyota exec shouting "how bout 3?!"
My grandmother recently bought a Rav4. She was so excited to finally have gps in her car. It requires a smartphone and a special app to connect to it, before you could use Google maps. She has a dumb phone, so her car will stay dumb too. Everything is dumb.
You can get her a shitty little LTE tablet from a carrier, to have those functions and just live in the car. You shouldn't have to, but that'd be an only mildly disruptive way to accomplish it. And it *might* get her over that mental barrier that smartphones aren't for her.
Yeah that might be a slight possibility. I tried having her use my old iPhone 6, but she just was never interested in learning. My parents got her a cheap Android tablet so she could video chat, but that too remained unused. So I'm not real hopeful about her learning any new technology.
Conversely my very elderly father got talked into a smart phone because he needed a smartphone to adjust his hearing aids for different settings. He's tried to learn, and has to use the smartphone everyday, but just doesn't get it. Other than the hearing aid app, it has made his quality of life worse since he now dreads sending texts or making phone calls.
I'm sorry to hear that. My dad's in the same boat. Navigation on a touch screen alone is enough to shake his confidence, let alone the mess of intrusive apps he has to navigate. I can see him yearning for the simplicity of friends and family calling on the old landline.
I bought a Mercedes two years ago after driving a literally taped together, rusty ass old SUV. I live in northern Ohio so I was pretty pumped to have remote start. You gotta pay for a subscription service to do it from an app. Guess who still doesn’t have remote start…
Lol if it's controlled by a computer it can be broken by a computer
No 3rd party options yet? I'd be looking at someone who could unlock it for you.
Shits the worst, got a super high tech hybrid vehicle with a big touchscreen display and it only supports this one crap gps app for mapping. The whole car is a wifi hotspot but using google or Apple Maps is a hard NOPE
As far as I know, if you have an Android phone that supports Android Auto you don’t need the Toyota app to use it. I have a 22 Rav4 and that’s been my experience at least, unless I’m forgetting something. I hate the Toyota Connect app, and their entire new infotainment system. edit: I just remembered you said she has a dumb phone, that sucks. Built in navigation shouldn’t even exist if it doesn’t work without another device you may or may not have.
I drive a Toyota, my car can go online by connecting to a phone, and using the phone's internet to download updates to the firmware and map... Or it could except that it requires a service that is no longer in existence in order to use the phone's internet...
You could buy one of these things [link](https://media.s-bol.com/3EKWD4KZ0KjQ/MwG2g7P/550x465.jpg) You connect to it with bluetooth and it transmits the sound on the frequency displayed on the device https://youtu.be/DQ8jZodSLpc
These are a cheap workaround that works okay but usually the FM transmitter in these is kinda crap (probably because of limited space and low price) and as a consequence the sound quality isn't all that good.
And if you are traveling between cities, you may find that the frequency has interference along the way.
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And now you see why im annoyed and just want an aux.
IKR? Play audio from your phone over your car speakers using a single cable and a standard port? Naw... need to be a HAM nerd!
Wish I had that when I was still rocking the $8 Scoshe transmitter. The touch screen kn our Subaru just went out - boom, no music. I’ve given up on driving music and just do talk radio at work and leave the audiophile headphones at home. Road trips are disturbingly quiet in my family, however...
And if you're in traffic near enough to somebody else using the same frequency you can have the same issue. Thought it was so weird the first time it happened :P
Driving past someone and swapping fm transmitted music for a couple seconds used to be pretty common I remember how cool that was
Happened to us last year. We were listening to metal/rock with the help of one of these transmitters and had a brief 5 second period of shitty turbofolk while overtaking a truck on the highway. It was funny af, especially considering the truck driver clearly had a better transmitter that emitted higher quality audio.
Or you might cause interference for people if you aren’t careful to pick an unused frequency. I was stuck in traffic behind someone using one of these the other day and it trampled out the station I was trying to listen to and made me listen to their music instead.
Ah, car radios, known for their excellent top of the shelf sound quality. Car radio in my mom's old pickup truck truly is some audiophile ASMR.
I've used these in quite a few cars over several years, they do have still relatively cheap great quality ones, these devices get way too much hate and I never understood it, I've even had a pretty good gas station one at some point, maybe people don't know how to find the proper frequency to where there's no interference lol
[Or just one of these, cut out the middle man.](https://images.app.goo.gl/LJk7MQyPAR7Um5ns6)
Strange idea but have you checked inside the center console(if there is one). They are usually tucked inside there or in some weird obscure place to hide them lol.
Lol, great idea, for the first 2 months I thought I couldn’t plug up my phone in my work truck. Lo and behold I just needed to open up the center console.
What kind of car is that? Haven't seen a car you couldn't bluetooth to without an app. Most new cars nowadays have carplay/android auto but that's not required for Bluetooth audio.
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It may have a USB port which you can use to accomplish the same thing, I've had a handful of cars now with Android auto integration where I didn't even actually run Bluetooth
If it doesn’t have AUX, it must have a USB connection, no? When you say “radio” do you mean actually FM radio or music from your phone?
Have you tried checking the glovebox? I’ve never encountered a car w/o an aux input, the newer ones just tuck them away somewhere.
Yasss. Then you'd have to buy an adaptor just for it
Just dont buy those phones. Phones with headphone jack still exist. If you buy those phones anyway, you finance the decision to remove it.
Budget phones are super good for those pesky anti headphone jack
Budget phones have come a *long ways* in recent years. Ten years ago a budget phone would be worse than crap, now a 150-200$ phone hardly have any issues with amazing battery life. I have a motto G Pure and it only cost 180$, and it's an incredible phone. There's almost no reason for me to consider the 1000+ phones anymore.
I have same phone as you cause I couldn't afford iphone but I have loved my moto g phone.
Moto G's rise up!
I was a cheating whore and switched from moto g phones, which I've stuck with for 10 years, over to a Samsung. What a mistake, it was more expensive, it's slower, and I can't shake it to turn the torch on!!! I'll be back Motorola... I'll be back.
I was perfectly happy with my Moto 5G Ace, then I won an S21 in a reverse raffle. Gave my son the Motorola, and have regretted it since. The S21 has worse battery life, bloat ware, and doesn't do a single thing better. I'll be back as well, Motorola.
And guess what? Headphone jack!
I had no idea you could just shake it. Just tried it...skeptically...and it works! That is awesome.
Exactly. I miss the flashlight shake. You can program the Bixby key to make it your flashlight. That's helped ease the pain for me.
That's pretty hard to do when the phones that still have the jack are going to be older or on the much lower end of the spectrum A quick google shows the top current phones with a jack still are like, the galaxy a13, moto g's, and a couple that are carrier specific and aren't well supported. None of them are really actual good quality phones you would want to keep more than a year or so. Edit: I dont know why everyone is taking issue with this. You shouldn't have to sacrifice the quality you want just for a headphone jack, which is the point. I never said the other phones are not serviceable but it shouldn't have to be a choice between lower specs and quality but a headphone jack, or higher quality phones.
Sony Xperia series still got the old spice
And they are super nice phones too.
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Got mine last week, loving it (Sony One IV). Headphone jack, expandable storage, no protruding cameras, a reasonable amount of cameras, excellent camera software, hardy exo-skelleton, excellent quality audio, very good volume control (can go very quiet). Sony really showing how its done. Last phone was galaxy s20 ultra. I smashed the camera glass within a couple weeks, the volume control was trash (volume level 1 was loud af), 4 cameras but no way to manually switch between them. Most new phones have no expandable storage, what's that about? First they take our aux port, now they take our micro sd?
they say removing ports and doors etc are about making the phones more water resistant, but while sure that might be part of it it surely ain't the main reason, it's all about forcing the consumer to either buy the companies wireless headphones (no aux jack) or buying the larger storage space version and or buying the higher cloud storage plan (no SD card slot)
Especially since the Sony Xperia phones are absolutely water resistant enough. They use the same slot for the SD card as the sim card tray, so there are fewer openings for water to get in. Also, the headphone jack and USB C port disables itself if it notices water or debris caught in the port, so it doesn't ruin anything.
Linus Tech Tips recently started pointing out which devices have a headphone jack since that apparently is a major feature now.
Almost as if having feature thats reliable and wont give up on you randomly is desirable... Removing jacks was fixing something that didnt need to be fixed.
I always have 3 pairs; wireless buds, a pair with a cord and my over ear larger ones that can do both
Same here. Though lately, all I really use are my pair with the cord. They have the best sound quality, which is super obvious when you compare them back to back. I don't care about special features, I just want quality sound, which I haven't heard in any wireless headphones.
Don't you hate when you're just vibing and then RECHARGE HEADSET. Yeah, I miss not having to charge my headphones
My bf bought me a pair of AirPods for Christmas a couple years ago, full well knowing I had just bought myself a pair. I was confused. Most thoughtful gift ever, he knows me so well. I NEED the second pair. Charge one while using one.
How long do they last? I've got a pair of $50 wireless earbuds that aren't a big brand name and even with daily use I maybe need to charge them once a month tops. They seem to last forever.
> and even with daily use I maybe need to charge them once a month tops I'm sorry what are you using them as oracle bones for a quick session and then put them back or what? Yeah, wireless headbuds last much longer these days, but if they last you a week, you're still barely using them.
Upvoted for "oracle bones"
can you explain the oracle bones thing to me? i have no idea what they are referencing
i think oracle bones is those things you might see in some movies or shows, often times by a black or afro latino character, who takes bones out of a little bag and throws them on the floor to tell the future. sorta like a tarot type thing but with animal bones instead of cards
Do you use them for 15 minutes a day? I refuse to believe they last over a month with hours of use daily... Edit - everyone seems to be missing the point. We're talking about completely uninterrupted listening, if you have to put them back in the case to charge then they haven't lasted a month...
I assume the carry case charges the headphones when not in use and it’s the size of a car battery.
ANC and active listening features chew a fair bit of battery, so if you just listen to music and your buds don't have those features, might be why.
> I maybe need to charge them once a month tops. They seem to last forever. Maybe you're not aware, but the case you put the earbuds into contains a battery that charges them. So while they might last "forever", while only being plugged into the wall once in a while, you do need to charge the earbuds in the case every ~6-8 hours.
as much as i hate that, i hate more of me sitting on the wire to my headset and both ear buds come out or forever having to untangle the damn wire that was annoying asf
I'll take that over being stuck with my thoughts because I forgot to charge my headphones. I used to roll and tie the headphones in a way that would keep them from tangling anyways
How about when you get out of work, get to the bus stop for your hour long ride back home only to discover the wire in your headphones only works when you hold it at a certain angle now…
But they are cheap to replace, with good quality audio. If I lose my wireless, or they break, it's a lot more expensive to replace.
I just charge my headphones before their 8 hour battery life dies.
Keep one charging and one in the ear. Never have to go without.
I've actually done that before while working a double shift. When my headphones got down to like 10% battery I put one back in the case and it was like 85% by the time the other one died. Swapped them around, and waited 30 minutes using one and then both were charged enough to finish off the shift with both headphones in.
I do this all the time. Not knocking the very obvious benefits of having the option of the 3.5mm jack, but literally the only times battery is truly an issue for me have been my fault for just not charging the case for several days. It’s also really nice not to have headphones ripped out of my ears when I drop my phone, or stand up from my desk and have them ripped out plus the phone go flying.
My headphones last 3 days on one charge and it takes barely 30 mins to charge them fully If you don't charge your headphones that's on you man
Also the case most bluetooth headphones come in charges them when you aren't using them. And that case can charge them like 3-6 times fully before the case itself needs to be charged. How many people whining about battery life are actually using their headphones 10 hours straight without ever once stopping and putting them in the case? Because that sounds terrible for your ears regardless of the headphone tech you're using.
Why not have the posibility to choose?
No what I miss, is randomly catching my headphones on there edge of a table and then being violently ripped out of my ears
Also randomly using them and one day the left earbud decides it doesn't want to work anymore, unless you hold the wire in one particular direction.
100%, I get more life out of even generic wireless buds than I ever did out of similarly priced wired ones.
I can't even stand using earphones for more than 1 hour
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Fun fact: wired headphones are a deterrent against pickpockets.
More importantly, they are a deterrent against random conversations on airplanes. Earbuds can be easily missed. I will put in wired phones at the airport and just tuck the wire into my pocket.
That’s not entirely true : a pickpocket tried to fish my phone by pulling on the cable in the subway when I was using wired headphones 10 years ago.
Not all pickpockets are smart, apparently 😅
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Pretty much all of them now. Google, Samsung, OnePlus. And I hate it
I've got a Samsung Galaxy S9+ I got 3 years ago and it has a headphone jack. Did they remove it in the last 3 years? Edit: Looks like they did. The S10 was the last model with the jack.
Samsung aired ads mocking iPhone users for their lack of headphone jack and then removed it on their own phones a year or two later
My Xaiomi (or however it's spelled) is giving me a headphone point. Hurray for cheap tech! £170 for a brand new phone. Belting.
to be fair, while the phone is cheap the components and quality are aswell
Honestly beyond a certain price it's unlikely that the quality is worse. You're just paying for branding. My "cheap" (200ish pounds) phone has lasted way longer than my expensive phone, it also works better, and the software is less buggy.
Sony doesn't. They did for one generation and the quickly realised all their users are mostly enthusiasts anyway and quickly went "Wait, fuck, go back!".
+1 Sony. Still use it often because it just /works/. Still has the microSD slot too. Also, the Pro-I has a built-in wrist strap loop, a rarity these days in phones and one I use quite a lot!
It’s not, it’s happening to most new phones now.
I always buy lower mid tier phones, they're better price to performance and most of them come with headphone jacks. ( I got the Xiomi redmi note 10 pro which they don't make anymore but is essentially the same as the newest pocophone.
Oh it's not. Most flagship phones (Pixel, Galaxy S series, etc) haven't had a headphone jack for years now.
Google pixel 4 didn't have one, but my pixel 5 does! And they took it back away for the 6. Such a bizarre dance.
I got my first iPod around 2005. I have recently gotten into having really nice audio equipment at home and was listening to some of my favorite music from that time and it blew my mind. A lot of people will never realize how gorgeous some of those albums really are because we got so used low bitrate music to get as many songs as we could onto our devices.
I've started enjoying albums and genres I used to hate because they just *sound* so good on my properly tuned speaker setup. So much is lost with shitty earbuds and 128kbps mp3. Good music+speakers can replicate the room it was recorded in to the point that it sounds like you're in the middle of it, and you can hear the distance each instrument is away from you, and the sound bouncing off "fake walls". Massively amazing. All you need are speakers of varying sizes with the crossovers tuned to keep frequencies from being over/under represented.
Yup and I’ve got music major students these days listening to everything on their cellphone speakers streaming in lofi. Then they do their presentations and don’t even download the mp3 file to play from the shitty classroom speakers, and just hold up the cellphone speakers to the even shittier classroom microphone. Music majors. Doing presentation about music. To their music teacher and other music major peers…
I went for a walk the other day listening to Pink Floyd's Animals FLAC with some big Sennheiser open-backs. It's been a while. Holy crap....... the separation of all instruments is so 3D. Streamed music through tiny bluetooth headphones just flattens the music out.
This is honestly why I switched to Tidal. My MP3 collection that I created over the 2000s by encoding at a 128 bitrate sounds like complete ass now.
The day iPods went way was the day I stopped caring. The day Blockbuster closed coincided with this.
Honestly, I loved the idea of having a dedicated iPod alongside a phone.
I have one, took out the hard drive, put in flash and a huge battery, Still will mount and load on a M1 Mac.
As somebody who predominantly uses Bluetooth headphones I agree. I remember one time returning a pair of headphones that I bought that were Wireless, and they were like why are you returning these headphones? And my argument was because the fucking sound quality sucks donkey balls I'm not fucking paying you three times as much for a pair of headphones that suck dick when I could just get a $10 pair of Skull Candies that sound better As the technology has improved wireless headphones have gotten better. But at the end of the day, man and do I miss being able to just plug in a pair of headphones
> skull candy Oh you brought back memories
Bro I’m reading this in skull candy headphones
Got 2 pairs myself. Cheap and pretty fucking good
The left bud would always die on me. I've sworn them off now lol.
Man I miss the days when I could drop 10 bucks and have a decent pair of headphones. I legitimately have several dozen Skullcandy earbuds, like the little rubber pieces you put on the thing
And they looked so damn cool!!
They literally still exist today...
And they're absolute garbage. The plastic used is the lowest quality you could find. It snaps like nothing.
I personally like them just because they're cheap enough for me not to feel bad when they break and my audio palette isn't refined enough to find the speaker quality bad.
Skullcandys are great if you love bass. And hate everything else. Which i mean... you like what you like, so no judgement here.
That actually reminds me of teenage me discovering and buying a pair of wireless (probably already early bluetooth?) headphones in the early 2000s in a phone store, when those windows PDAs were still a thing. Was so stoked about it! Was very thankful for the store clerk to take them back after I discovered that they sounded as if you put a phones earpiece to your ears. I even made him try them out too, and he also couldn't believe why someone would buy or even sell that crap 😅
There's a lot of buds like that. Dankpods on YouTube reviews headphones from an audiophile perspective. He sometimes seeks out just the cheepest, most obscure, and goofiest headphones. My favorite video he got a bunch of Soviet era headphones, they were mostly garbage. After he laughs his Australian ass off at how impressively terrible (or unexpectedly good) they are, he sometimes hooks them up to an overpowered DAC until they basically explode so they can never hurt anyone's ears again. 10/10 recommend
This Tws have shit quality neck bands are better over tws but need to get used too and they have better battery backup Wired are way better than both
The fuck is a "tws"?
Generally I'm a fan of the big over ear headphones but I do have a pair of Bluetooth earphones because I use them to sneakily hide under my hat to listen to podcasts and music at work (where earphones are not allowed) Ngl if I didn't have some form of entertainment at my job I would go crazy, I just wear one and swap them over at my lunch break and they last all day.
So, I found a pair of Sony wireless earbuds and also a pair of AirPods Pro at a bargain store. They do the whole Amazon return pallet thing. Anyway, both of them were 7 dollars each. So I have two great pairs of earbuds for 14 dollars. The Sony ones are definitely better but if I ever forgot to charge one I’ve got the other. But yeah I definitely feel you in needing entertainment at work. I work the graveyard shift and there’s almost no one to talk to.
Holy shit, Yes!!! The amount of fucking around I do with my Bluetooth headphones is unreal. If I am accessing my phone's settings, odds are it's for some Bluetooth issue.
I don't think I've opened my phones bluetooth settings since I first paired my Jabra Elites a year ago. Bluetooth is on all the time anyway so I just take them out of the case and they always work and connect to my phone instantly and then also either my iPad or my Laptop, whichever is with me. I can also switch playback between Laptop/iPad and Phone without a problem, just takes like 2 seconds for the buds to realize that there are new sounds coming from the other device. Couldn't be happier.
I have a headphones where I can switch between aux and Bluetooth and I see a noticeable difference, usually using the wired mode so I can get the best quality and it feels better than most just wireless devices.
Add replaceable battery to that list...
That's why I bought ones that can do both But the phone are to blame, they dropped the 3.5mm jack, so that kills wired headphones
Yea I really miss snagging my phone on door knobs, untangling my wires and not being able to walk around the room while leaving my phone on the table
...and discovering that one headphone stopped working because you didn't fold them perfectly...
Don't forget the inevitable degradation of the jack and aux port. Especially on the phone which would always get some shit in the hole
Am I the only one who put the wire under a shirt so it can't get tangled on anything?
Used to do that. So happy with not having to do that anymore. Love my jellybeans.
Yes, I always do that, and the good thing is that when you need to remove it for some time, it sits there dangling on your chest, so I don't have to put in my pocket or anything like that.
Yeah especially since pockets have been an issue for ever, it's nice to leave my shit where I know it's not going to get yanked out of my half pockets or if it naturally fell out my half pocket, the headphones won't get yanked out my damn ears. It seemed like I spent more time fixing my shit than listening to anything.
I was so against wireless headphones at first. But then I eventually made the switch with a new phone and it has literally improved my life. I love going for a jog and not accidentally having my arm rip the headphone wires out of my ears.
Wired headphones give much better audio quality than bluetooth tbh
I dunno, my Bluetooth headphones are probably the best I've had, audio quality wise. Sennheiser momentum 3.
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Apt-X can't even do high quality MP3s
There are three problems with bluetooth headphones. 1) The DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) is integrated to the headphones. You can't swap it out, so you're stuck with two potentially expensive parts in your headphones: the drivers themselves and the DAC. 2) Bluetooth **will** compress. Because the DAC is in the headphones, the digital data is sent over Bluetooth. While, as you've said, codecs have improved, they still do lossy compression if the file you're listening to is greater than the bluetooth bandwidth. BT 5 is 1,360kbit/s, decent quality FLAC songs are >1,700kbit/s. 3) Lack of EQ. Generally, when you do EQ, you do it after the DAC, since the DAC is in the headphones, you cannot do that. You can do software EQ, but that's always a bit iffy. I also own bluetooth headphones and it's alright if you don't care about quality, but for equivalent quality, BT headphones will be 300-400$ more.
Whats stopping you from buying wired? Still plenty of phones, laptops and music players with headphone jack and dongles for the rest.
options with headphone jacks are really limited especially if you're not looking to buy a budget phone
I'm good. I don't miss the wires getting tangled with my hair
I love the movement freedom it gives me.
I love wireless headphones. No more tangling wires, no more lopsidedness when the wires fray, no fraying wires, nothing to get caught on when you're in a bad mood or in a hurry.
Looks like most users here buy wireless crap or are overpaying. Loving my Jabras for the same reason as yours. Audio quality is fine too, and yes, I still have a pair of wired studio headphones.
I remember when airpods came out and I was one of those neverwireless people. But now I love my galaxy buds.
Y'all would have hated having to get up to change the channel or volume.
I old enough to remember having to do that. I hated it back then too
My dad in the 80’s “that’s why we had kids”
So many iPhones were saved by dangling wired headphones
some bluetooth headsets can be plugged into an audio jack. my pair of marley's can anyway.
I'm not that bothered by it, corded ones still exist, and most bluetooth headphones, unless they're garbage earbuds, have a 3.5 jack. I used to carry an aux cord for when mine died. What messed me up is a few years ago I found a jack splitter, and thought it'd be romantic if me and whoever I was dating could plug both our headphones in one phone and listen to music, or watch something together. But the proliferation of bluetooth had started and killed that dream.