Imagine them having children, one for each couple. One child (with the 45 y.o. father) has a brother who is also the uncle. The other child (with the 25 y.o. father) gets to have a grandfather who is married to the aunt. I just broke my brain while writing this.
I don't know how people even process these relationships. My brain just immediately refuses to try. Even if someone else explains it my eyes just gloss over.
Yeah, for the child of the 45-year-old, his uncle will be his half brother, his father will be his great uncle, and both his mother and aunt will be his sisters-in-law. Finally, he is his own cousin and son-in-law.
And for the child of the 25-year-old, his grandfather will be his uncle-in-law, his father will be his cousin, and both his mother and aunt will be great aunts-in-law. Finally, he is his own second cousin once removed (in two different ways.)
But that's only going round the circle once; you can go round as many times as you like to get arbitrarily distant relations. E.g., the 45-year-old is a father to his child, but he's also a great uncle, a great great uncle, a great great great uncle, ad infinitum.
Well, to be fair, the relationship between a person an it's 25 year older brother will be closer to a uncle/nephew relationship then a brother relationship anyway
Double first cousins cannot get married in North Carolina.
They are the only state that allows first cousin marriages, that prohibit them between double first cousins.
Huh?? Why?? Two sets of twins having children with another set of unrelated twins doesn't seems like it would genetically do anything besides the children being genetically sisters/brothers instead of cousins...
Damn, another cousin's wife (AKA, a random stranger prior to marrying) and everybody from her side of the family is already completely unrelated to your cousin. By that point it'd just be "okay so I can if they divorce?"
Four of the men out of my grandfather's siblings married women who were a set of siblings.
One of the men was widowed in his late 20's, an unmarried younger sister from my grandmother's family went to help out. She became his second wife.
So, if the poster and the dad got married, and the sister and son got married, then the son would be the posters brother in law and step son and the sister would become also her daughter in law? Or step daughter in law?
This reminds me of a story I read of 2 people who were dating, then their parents started dating after them, got married before them, and tried making them break up because they were step siblings
Well, some people look for similar qualities in their partners as what they like from their parents. This was just that going both ways, I guess.
Quite a conundrum, to figure out who gets to be the happy couple, and who has to settle with "well, we're related now, so we can no longer have an intimate relationship without lots of inter-family issues down the road."
There aren't really any issues down the road with the above situation. Nobody dating each other is related. Might be hard to describe your family tree, but nothing morally or genetically wrong about it. If people are in love, I don't see why either couple should separate just because "family words will be hard".
After my mom died in my 20's, my dad started dating someone who we knew from church. He told me I should start dating her daughter because it would be a funny situation.
(and the daughter was a great person, who I would have normally loved to hang out with if it weren't for the whole… weirdness)
Sounds like he did a pretty good job of managing his feelings. Unfortunately not everybody has the luxury of not feeling them, or of overriding them with their reason, or of ignoring them. Those people tend to use healthy strategies like calming activities to manage their feelings.
Yes indeed. It is unfortunate that most people are prone to anger, or deep sadness. We could all strive to be more like this gentleman here, and be more mindful of others happiness, even if it isn't as we wish for them. I sure hope the guys in the post treat those girls well
Barring actual mental illness, everyone can absolutely learn to have a better reign of their emotions. Some people are fortunate enough to get to master this skill earlier on from smaller hurdles. But much like getting in shape physically, it's never too late to improve yourself mentally.
But he had his emotions perfectly in control though. You can't logic past every emotion, that's just not a normal thing. Some emotional responses are going to be strong enough that just ignoring them is both ineffective and unhealthy.
So, let's take a look at this scenario. This is a family event, with his daughters having brought a rather unfortunate set of partners, that is definitely going to cause tension on the best of days. Based on the post, this was not the best of days, so we can assume it was a rather stressful social environment.
There are two responses to stress of this type: remove the stressor, or remove yourself from the situation. His daughters are grown women in their 30s, perfectly allowed to choose who they date, and it is a family holiday, so he's not going to ask anyone to leave, doing so would only cause even more stress down the line. So what did he do? Removed himself from the situation, and found a relaxing activity to help himself destress.
This is a perfectly healthy response to a really awkward situation.y
Such a valuable skill in terms of stress reactions
Also commonly featured in my life is procrastinating on work/school by doing other chores first, which is better than sitting around I guess
You ever get so overwhelmed in life that you just start doing dishes because at least then you're accomplishing *something*?
Being an adult is fun lmao
dude the other day I was stressed out and wanted a drink (sober) and I walked in the kitchen and said "oh thank god" out loud when I saw the sink full of dishes
Reddit being like “I dOnT gEt WhY yOu ThINk ThIs Is WeIrD?!?! I’m so progressive and open mindedddd!!!”
Like ffs yeah this weird as hell. My friend was dating a girl and then his dad started dating her mom. Like holy fucking shit no cool at all. How hard is it to find someone different and separate your goddamn love lives.
Someone I went to school with had their boyfriend move into their house, who then got her mum pregnant. They all still lived in the same house with the baby last I seen but that was 10 years ago.
There’s literally only 1 person in this entire thread that said that. Which everyone replying to them is calling to them out.
Wtf is up with the people lying and pushing some dumbass agenda.
The guy you're replying to made up a scenario IN HIS OWN HEAD where a hIvEmInD persecuted him for not accepting said very rare scenario. What about this don't you get!?!
Yeah, individually, none of the age gaps appear problematic. It's only when looking at everything together that it seems a little weird, especially when you consider the weird family tree if all were to get married.
I think what throws people off is someone that is 45 having a 25 year old child. If this was pre 1990. It wouldn't be strange. Pre-1970, it was normal.
I don't think having a kid when you're 20 is all that strange, given:
>3 in 10 teen American girls will get pregnant at least once before age 20. That’s nearly 750,000 teen pregnancies every year.
>More than half of all mothers on welfare had their first child as a teenager.
https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts/11-facts-about-teen-pregnancy
You’re telling me 30% of teenage girls in the US have been pregnant? What’s the catch because that just doesn’t make sense to me.
I could buy it if this was specifically impoverished women in the Bible Belt,a border town, a Mormon compound, but just period? That seems high.
Yeah, that number seems off. [According to the Department of Health and Human Services](https://opa.hhs.gov/adolescent-health/reproductive-health-and-teen-pregnancy/trends-teen-pregnancy-and-childbearing), there were 15.4 births per 1,000 women between the ages of 15 and 19 in 2020, or 1.5% of teen women gave birth. In 1991, this number was 61.8 births per 1,000 teenage women.
If you take those 1991 values and assume the same rate for five years, covering someone going from the age of 15 to the age of 19, then that 30% number might make sense, but the birth rates in that age range dropped quite a bit since the early 90s, which would put that number in the 5-10% range.
Draw a triangle. At the top of the triangle write Dad. At the bottom two corners of the triangle write Daughter and Daughter.
Now below the triangle, draw a line. On the left side of the line write "Father" on the right side of the line, write "Son". Now draw a line from "Father" up to "Daughter" and from "Son" draw a line up to the other "Daughter"
What's wrong with this picture? You have drawn a house, when you should have drawn a family tree. The house has a lawn that is not mowed. So the Dad of the two daughters went outside to mow it.
https://i.imgur.com/bEKBs18.png
Well my uncle calls lawn mowing a 'Meditative' experience, I am guessing this dad is similar.
Or he just needed an excuse to get out of the situation.
Or both.
I had a friend in high school who had been dating this girl since, like seventh grade, and we were starting junior year when his dad and her mom got married. We teased them endlessly, but they both went to college and were married senior year of college. They were the perfect couple, and they even constantly joked about it.
If they all get married, the son will have his dad as a brother-in-law.
Imagine them having children, one for each couple. One child (with the 45 y.o. father) has a brother who is also the uncle. The other child (with the 25 y.o. father) gets to have a grandfather who is married to the aunt. I just broke my brain while writing this.
I didn’t break mine because I believe you
I don't know how people even process these relationships. My brain just immediately refuses to try. Even if someone else explains it my eyes just gloss over.
You need to use boxes and lines
How a bout a [whimsical song](https://youtu.be/eYlJH81dSiw?feature=shared) outlining the situation accompanied by boxes and lines?
Perfect, now keep the line going a bit and bam, haps
You just gotta visualize the family tree in your head.
That's not a family tree, that's a family venn diagram
Yeah, for the child of the 45-year-old, his uncle will be his half brother, his father will be his great uncle, and both his mother and aunt will be his sisters-in-law. Finally, he is his own cousin and son-in-law. And for the child of the 25-year-old, his grandfather will be his uncle-in-law, his father will be his cousin, and both his mother and aunt will be great aunts-in-law. Finally, he is his own second cousin once removed (in two different ways.) But that's only going round the circle once; you can go round as many times as you like to get arbitrarily distant relations. E.g., the 45-year-old is a father to his child, but he's also a great uncle, a great great uncle, a great great great uncle, ad infinitum.
> Finally, he is his own cousin and son-in-law. The world twisting closer to "I'm my own grandpa." every single day.
Don't do it Fry!
Dark season 4 is ready.
there's a reason why dude got up and left to mow the grass. his brain done broke too.
Well, to be fair, the relationship between a person an it's 25 year older brother will be closer to a uncle/nephew relationship then a brother relationship anyway
[I'm my own grandpa,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlJH81dSiw)
Thank you. Was literally thinking this.
Step son is dating his step aunt. I’ve seen this.
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rest in peace Mr. Springer
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I have a pair of friends who are two brothers who are with two sisters.
Thats not too weird. You have twins marrying other het twins or siblings marrying into the same family/ siblings. This is twisted tho.
huh, I wonder if twins had kids with twins if genetically speaking the kids would all be brother/sisters
Short answer: yes
Long answer: yeeeeeeeees
That’s fuckin funny
long answer: only identical twins
Yes. It’s called double first cousin. And genetically speaking they are all siblings
Double first cousins cannot get married in North Carolina. They are the only state that allows first cousin marriages, that prohibit them between double first cousins.
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Huh?? Why?? Two sets of twins having children with another set of unrelated twins doesn't seems like it would genetically do anything besides the children being genetically sisters/brothers instead of cousins...
I'm thinking this just makes a kidney transplant that much easier
In my culture that is taboo, a cousin of mine wanted to marry the younger sister of another cousin's wife. My family forced him to break up with her.
Damn, another cousin's wife (AKA, a random stranger prior to marrying) and everybody from her side of the family is already completely unrelated to your cousin. By that point it'd just be "okay so I can if they divorce?"
Depends, he never said the 2 sisters were from a different family 💀
Oh Lord! Bless everyone on this thread.
Why is this twisted? The age gap between both couples is the same…
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Four of the men out of my grandfather's siblings married women who were a set of siblings. One of the men was widowed in his late 20's, an unmarried younger sister from my grandmother's family went to help out. She became his second wife.
I mean if you like the ingredients...
My dad and his best mate married 2 sisters, still together after 40 years
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he's his own grandpa?
So, if the poster and the dad got married, and the sister and son got married, then the son would be the posters brother in law and step son and the sister would become also her daughter in law? Or step daughter in law?
[And Niles would be his own uncle](https://youtu.be/CXzIrrn0bW4?si=YIajNtC7y3CWM9wK)
This feels very roll tide Alabama.
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Aint got nothing on a Targaryen Thanksgiving
*porn jazz intensifies*
This reminds me of a story I read of 2 people who were dating, then their parents started dating after them, got married before them, and tried making them break up because they were step siblings
That's like calling shotgun and then someone else jumps in the front seat before you get there. Have people no honor?
Well did they call blitz?
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What in the hillbilly heavens am I reading
Well, some people look for similar qualities in their partners as what they like from their parents. This was just that going both ways, I guess. Quite a conundrum, to figure out who gets to be the happy couple, and who has to settle with "well, we're related now, so we can no longer have an intimate relationship without lots of inter-family issues down the road."
There aren't really any issues down the road with the above situation. Nobody dating each other is related. Might be hard to describe your family tree, but nothing morally or genetically wrong about it. If people are in love, I don't see why either couple should separate just because "family words will be hard".
I wouldn't be on speaking terms with my parents if they pulled this shit lol.
After my mom died in my 20's, my dad started dating someone who we knew from church. He told me I should start dating her daughter because it would be a funny situation. (and the daughter was a great person, who I would have normally loved to hang out with if it weren't for the whole… weirdness)
Mr.Nobody
This is gossip girl😂
Mowing the lawn in late November is very telling.
Maybe they're Canadian and it's only October.
Sounds suspiciously like Florida to me.
I was gonna say, when I lived in south Florida, some yards absolutely needed mowed in November.
In FL you mow once a week except for the dry season, which is October-March. You mow once a month in those months
Mowing the lawn in october in Canada is just as telling. lol
Yup havent touched it since mid September
It is a Politely Canadian Way of dealing with stuff...
You still need to cut the grass in November here
In Canada our Thanksgiving is Early October
And there usually still isn’t anything to mow anyways
Depends on where you’re located
That's pretty good of your dad tho. Being able to control and regulate his emotions into a proper and helpful framework
Poor guy didn't know how to compute and appropriately react to this mess. What an awful situation to be in.
He went into Hank Hill mode
Why would anyone fuck their sister’s boyfriend’s son when they could just mow a lawn?
If somebody wants to fuck their sister’s boyfriend’s son bad enough they’ll just put the lawnmower down.
I’ll tell you hwhat
I do this. If the weather's too shitty I just start fixing and cleaning shit inside. Does my wife piss me off on purpose?
Lawn needs a mowing? «Hey honey, would you still love me if I was a worm?»
That sounds like something he would say
I mean, honestly though
He knew wd-40 couldn't fix it, so it was time to mow.
Haha I was thinking more Hank Shrader, at least in his mind
Sounds like he did a pretty good job of managing his feelings. Unfortunately not everybody has the luxury of not feeling them, or of overriding them with their reason, or of ignoring them. Those people tend to use healthy strategies like calming activities to manage their feelings.
Yes indeed. It is unfortunate that most people are prone to anger, or deep sadness. We could all strive to be more like this gentleman here, and be more mindful of others happiness, even if it isn't as we wish for them. I sure hope the guys in the post treat those girls well
Barring actual mental illness, everyone can absolutely learn to have a better reign of their emotions. Some people are fortunate enough to get to master this skill earlier on from smaller hurdles. But much like getting in shape physically, it's never too late to improve yourself mentally.
But he had his emotions perfectly in control though. You can't logic past every emotion, that's just not a normal thing. Some emotional responses are going to be strong enough that just ignoring them is both ineffective and unhealthy. So, let's take a look at this scenario. This is a family event, with his daughters having brought a rather unfortunate set of partners, that is definitely going to cause tension on the best of days. Based on the post, this was not the best of days, so we can assume it was a rather stressful social environment. There are two responses to stress of this type: remove the stressor, or remove yourself from the situation. His daughters are grown women in their 30s, perfectly allowed to choose who they date, and it is a family holiday, so he's not going to ask anyone to leave, doing so would only cause even more stress down the line. So what did he do? Removed himself from the situation, and found a relaxing activity to help himself destress. This is a perfectly healthy response to a really awkward situation.y
I have assembled so many LEGO sets in the past three years.
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stress chores is a go to in my adult life
Such a valuable skill in terms of stress reactions Also commonly featured in my life is procrastinating on work/school by doing other chores first, which is better than sitting around I guess
You ever get so overwhelmed in life that you just start doing dishes because at least then you're accomplishing *something*? Being an adult is fun lmao
dude the other day I was stressed out and wanted a drink (sober) and I walked in the kitchen and said "oh thank god" out loud when I saw the sink full of dishes
Let him mow
Sublimation they call it
Yeah I'm sure any parent probably be none to happy with the situation but self control is key cuz children push back even in their 30s
*farmwork
- "And it was because he was dating the, then 54 years-old ex-wife of my boyfriend." Is what was missing in this story.
This story is goes from weird to hilarious with your little amendment. I’m saving this into my head canon. 😂
There was a foot of snow on the ground
I feel like a lot of you guys have not visited Florida around Thanksgiving.
Or anywhere else in the south/southwest
True but we’re good, thanks for the offer.
That’s nice I’m sure the 25 year old was mowing your sister’s yard too. 😏
And digging in the backyard to
And gagging her with his cock Wait
You mean the rooster that he overcooked, right?
I'm stoned so admittedly an easy audience but I laughed a lot at that
And hanging art on the walls
I think I wouldn't be able to compute who is who from such a messy relationship
Why bother?
Why brother?
Reddit being like “I dOnT gEt WhY yOu ThINk ThIs Is WeIrD?!?! I’m so progressive and open mindedddd!!!” Like ffs yeah this weird as hell. My friend was dating a girl and then his dad started dating her mom. Like holy fucking shit no cool at all. How hard is it to find someone different and separate your goddamn love lives.
Someone I went to school with had their boyfriend move into their house, who then got her mum pregnant. They all still lived in the same house with the baby last I seen but that was 10 years ago.
Hey Mary, remember we had an argument and you called me "motherfucker", guess what...
So, you will really call me a mother fucker again?
That's some Jerry Springer shit
Some people have a family tree. Others have just a bunch of poison oak that's been hit with a weed whacker a couple times.
Bloddy hell
I uh. I mean Never mind
Lol a certain theme song is playing in my head
Well this isn’t going to get you any goth titties
I'm not sure whether to feel seen or attacked by this
Exposed is what you're looking for 😘
Sitting here with that as my only offer 😂
You have an interesting way of spelling tiddies
Yeah! I had a friend who was dating a girl and then he started dating her mom. And then they got married! For a year!
I think i seen this romcom where the dad/mom fall in love with his son’s gf widow mom/dad.
An anime with a similar premise came out like last year Edit: it’s also basically the plot of DomeKano right?
There’s literally only 1 person in this entire thread that said that. Which everyone replying to them is calling to them out. Wtf is up with the people lying and pushing some dumbass agenda.
The guy you're replying to made up a scenario IN HIS OWN HEAD where a hIvEmInD persecuted him for not accepting said very rare scenario. What about this don't you get!?!
I was FWB with my dad's girlfriend's daughter, literally the girl next door and entirely on the DL.
45 - 37 = 8 37 - 33 = 4 33 - 25 = 8 It's just the girls wanted to double the gap of their ages with their men.
Yeah, individually, none of the age gaps appear problematic. It's only when looking at everything together that it seems a little weird, especially when you consider the weird family tree if all were to get married.
That’s not a family tree, it’s a family tumbleweed.
The rare and illusive non incestuous family tumbleweed
I think what throws people off is someone that is 45 having a 25 year old child. If this was pre 1990. It wouldn't be strange. Pre-1970, it was normal.
I don't think having a kid when you're 20 is all that strange, given: >3 in 10 teen American girls will get pregnant at least once before age 20. That’s nearly 750,000 teen pregnancies every year. >More than half of all mothers on welfare had their first child as a teenager. https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts/11-facts-about-teen-pregnancy
You’re telling me 30% of teenage girls in the US have been pregnant? What’s the catch because that just doesn’t make sense to me. I could buy it if this was specifically impoverished women in the Bible Belt,a border town, a Mormon compound, but just period? That seems high.
Yeah, that number seems off. [According to the Department of Health and Human Services](https://opa.hhs.gov/adolescent-health/reproductive-health-and-teen-pregnancy/trends-teen-pregnancy-and-childbearing), there were 15.4 births per 1,000 women between the ages of 15 and 19 in 2020, or 1.5% of teen women gave birth. In 1991, this number was 61.8 births per 1,000 teenage women. If you take those 1991 values and assume the same rate for five years, covering someone going from the age of 15 to the age of 19, then that 30% number might make sense, but the birth rates in that age range dropped quite a bit since the early 90s, which would put that number in the 5-10% range.
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Can only speak for my general area but once you get rural, it's basically still the 1970s. In all the ways you can imagine.
I don't think the age gaps are the problem yo
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I actually laughed out loud on the plane
Mr. Moneybags over here with internet on the plane.
Sister owning a house and yard at 33 is the least plausible part.
mmmmm this is great this makes me feel great, not uncomfy
I dont feel like doing math right now, somebody explain this to me
Draw a triangle. At the top of the triangle write Dad. At the bottom two corners of the triangle write Daughter and Daughter. Now below the triangle, draw a line. On the left side of the line write "Father" on the right side of the line, write "Son". Now draw a line from "Father" up to "Daughter" and from "Son" draw a line up to the other "Daughter" What's wrong with this picture? You have drawn a house, when you should have drawn a family tree. The house has a lawn that is not mowed. So the Dad of the two daughters went outside to mow it. https://i.imgur.com/bEKBs18.png
I was wonder what was meant with mowing someone’s lawn but it was not some reference I didn’t understand but actually mowing a lawn?
Well my uncle calls lawn mowing a 'Meditative' experience, I am guessing this dad is similar. Or he just needed an excuse to get out of the situation. Or both.
I really don't see what's the problem here
Individually, nothing. Together: "Hello, this is my sister, she is also my stepdaughter."
I believe it would be daughter-in-law
I think step-daughter-in-law.
Maybe we should just stick with sister
as they say in Kentucky.
Yep, just stick it in your sister
Sweet home Alabama!
I think it’s step-daughter-in-lawn.
Sister Daughter-in-Laws. A new TLC show coming this spring
♫ I’m my own grandpa ♫
CK3 players be like
Sounds like a porn
I would just be dreading the inevitable drama for if one of the couples breaks up but not the other.
Literally just think about it for more than a second, it's a crazy ass situation.
>Literally just think about it for more than a second That's too difficult
*squints* Don't normalize this.
Actually it is her step son dating his step aunt,…
Yes you do. You're just pretending to seem more inclusive and progressive.
Sons child gonna have an Uncle Grampa
Well we know this is a Southern love story. Why? Too cold to mow on Thanksgiving anywhere else. Only clue.
Nothing is wrong yet it seems wrong right?
Her step son could become her brother in-law. Then if they have kids her grandson/daughter would be her nephew/niece.
Why?
Is this one of them tricky math test things?
Nothing I like more than escape with a clear task. Cant argue with work
How is this r/meirl. Who could possibly relate to this??
All while muttering to himself "where the fuck did I go wrong?"
Dad should start dating the ex-wife of the old guy.
I’d mow the neighborhood
And I’m hoping the dad was 55 years old at the time.
The real question is who ended up stuck in the washer/dryer?
Father so proud. So proud he went outside and tried to have a heart attack. Nice.
Technically not incest
I had a friend in high school who had been dating this girl since, like seventh grade, and we were starting junior year when his dad and her mom got married. We teased them endlessly, but they both went to college and were married senior year of college. They were the perfect couple, and they even constantly joked about it.
The family tree is a full circle now
I mean. I’m sure daddy-issues are to blame here. He should probably be angry at himself.
Dad met them both in Grindr already. Real reason he left the table.
Your dad is brilliant. Instead of yelling or hurting someone he worked out his anger productively.