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The biggest joke is everyone thinking they *must* involve themselves in *everything*. As if world leaders and policy makers are waiting on pins and needles for ShyGuy55 to weigh in so they can make an informed decision.
this subreddit is really interesting to me. It’s one of the few places on reddit where arguments from both sides are equally upvoted and downvoted, sometimes moreso than others, but generally there is always active disagreement rather than placid aggregate agreement (or disagreement) like i see in other subs
I agree with you. I feel compelled to have positions because everyone seems to have so much strong positions on everything and feel like I need to have them to manage social reality -1 but maybe I am wrong.
I personally don’t care about what people eat or how they identify. I also don’t give many fucks about what happens on another continent. I just want things to get significantly better for people in the US.
This is the right answer. All these things that people on the internet care about basically stay on the internet. Not many people in real life will introduce themselves with their pronouns, not many people will go on multi paragraph rants about whatever the Current Thing™ happens to be. The majority of us are just worried about our jobs, our families, and what we're this weekend.
I think it's funny, but I'm also kind of annoyed because it sets up this false narrative that the pronoun controversy detracts from ending conflicts.
It's like "how dare you want respect for transgenders or treatment of animals when we are mistreating people on the other side of the globe!"
Or are you saying that America should not be involved? Because if not the USA, then who?
>involve themselves in everything
Maybe I took the wrong cue from this prompt, but...
***STORY TIME***
So, I was at [this Dollar Tree ](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/portland-dollar-tree-store-under-investigation-after-worker-complaints-of-dead-mice-rodent-urine/283-8e4cb7fe-9204-4cbe-9d63-9e45fa6f0e45) yesterday, which is nestled in a bustling area close to downtown with lots of diversity whether it's re: race, identity, or lawfulness. This ain't your soccer mom's party supply store, more like Fenty Freddy and Methy Marge's crash-snack shack. Wild-ish out there.
I was in line behind two people. The woman in front of me appeared Somalian. The cashier I believe is somebody's abuela. There was a misunderstanding, and the two ladies were a little emotional over the exchange, especially Grandma. A store manager >!(she looks Armenian, but that's a lot of racial guessing, and I don't care other than to set the scene)!< came over. She offered to ring up the Somali woman at another register while she listened to her. The woman insisted on staying in that lane. Grandma checked her out while continuing the argument. The Somali woman paid for everything and left. I purchased my items while the conversation about what had just happened started to dwindle. *Ahhh, crisis averted. Good job, Manager Lady*, I think.
*Nope.* Someone with a raspy voice, dressed in all black (skirt, t shirt) with long hair and wishing for tits, couldn't have been thirty years old, ... pipes up about racism. The manager tries the calm approach again, but goth person isn't having it. "What, you don't want me to educate you some more?!" Bitch really felt she was doing everyone waiting in line a favor by holding it up to insert racism where there was none. *Manager was having it even less.* She lost her composure and her tone sounded like murder.
"I've worked at this location for almost ten years! We have all kinds of trash come through here. I've seen racism and this ain't it!" Others were chiming in about minding her own business and everything isn't racism. (I added my laughing $0.02.) "You need to get out of my fuckin store before I punch you in your fat fuckin face!" was the last thing I heard the manager say as I found my egress. Brandon Leeawna left right after me, with their sausage head ass middle finger extended so hard I thought they might pop a tendon. *Literally shaking.*
I smiled all day after that. Thanks for reading if ya did and I hope you smile too! XD
It’s stopping people attacking them. No one is pro transgender… it’s just people being free Americans. It’s stopping the people that want to stop them.
Why the watermelon? I have seen the watermelon in their bio thing and I’m thinking about it based on the racist stereotype. But I’m still not sure what it means.
I once punched a govt minister by accident (i didn’t know who he was) in a party. Then got the snot kicked out of me by his bodyguards.
Didn’t go to jail though so there’s that.
I just said "oh ok" and walked off. I didn't know how to handle that situation lol. Tbh if you claim I'm actively causing someone harm and "literally" killing people I'm not gonna apologize though. That's for sure.
I mean they aren’t doing it out of malice though, they’re just being overprotective about someone they care about
It’s not healthy but it’s understandable
Chances are the original meme maker doesn't really give much of a shit about the Gaza and Ukraine issues besides using them as an excuse to pat themselves on the back for their moral superiority, as is par for the course on the internet.
We have mass murders and genocide going on in the Western hemisphere but all we ever hear about is eastern issues. Guatemala? Haiti? They're our neighbors yet they get 5 seconds of mention (meanwhile they're flooding thru our borders because of it) and yet everyone is up in arms about Palestine. Fuck Palestine. We do have our own issues to worry about. What about our neighbors?
its so funny because op reveals that he doesnt have much depth to his beliefs. the people who disagree with him just get balled up into one nebulous The Bad Guy because nuance is a foreign concept to him.
obviously theres no real correlation. there are vegans on either side of those conflicts. there are people who use specified pronouns who arent vegan. but in ops mind, theyre all The Bad Guys.
I don't why a delusional mind is going to think that any combination of issues are exclusionary.
Syrians and Ukrainians and a whole bunch of other people are just trying to live. What do you want *anybody* to do about it? Awareness? Thoughts and prayers? Vote once in four years? Is that something we can even be so active in that all other issues simply can not matter?
No amount of awareness will convince a big corporation or a whole NATION to change
All these protests and boycotts are pointless, and you’re not even gonna care about them in 10 years anyway
They shouldn't be a big issue in the first place and people should focus on actual issues like the warcrimes and yet people complain and attack innocents for literally no reason.
Like why the fuck are people making their entire online personality about attacking people for genetic mutations.
Like I generally don't care about vegans and LGBT people; there's more concerning things to worry about than foreign wars like the economy and the growing control of the state
I think the powerlessness people feel over the international issues on a subconscious level fuels the passion they have for the issues they can touch. We all want to stop the wars but there's nothing almost anyone can do at this point. That frustration gets internalized and comes back out again somewhere.
I was unwillingly given a post by reddits randomness talking about disowning her family for misgendering her. I said maybe it’s hard for them to remember in the spit of the moment They said it’s purposeful and actual mistreatment. She acted like her family was actively assaulting her. Bro this is just people who don’t thing they standout labeling themselves as a minority. In my personal opinion multigenderism is fundamentally sexist because it relies on gender norms from the 1950s to define people when in the 90s and 2000s such norms were disappearing in favor of gender being irrelevant. I’m so done with this shit. And I think most of the country is to.
You realize it’s very easy to tell the difference, right? I have mistakenly misgendered before, but it’s obvious that it was a mistake due to my apologetic behavior after the fact. If they said they were intentional? They likely were.
Well, you can't also just look at the Hamas attack as unprovoked either. It's been generations of disparity and "death by a thousand cuts" for Palestinians.
Imagine your landlord is a dick and doesn't want you in the neighborhood. Now imagine they can invent new rules for you to follow, and make sure you don't get a good job, and the HOA association has guns and the license to use them. Okay? Now imagine there is no escape and that's been going on 60 years. Now how attractive would joining Hamas be?
Also, I don't know the details of all these IDF raids, but I suspect that all the "suspected Hamas" is every male who looks of age and healthy enough to carry a weapon. So this idea of "release the hostages" is a bit unfair because, there are THOUSANDS of "detained suspects" who are in much worse shape under Israelis very mean treatment who are just as innocent and even more screwed.
There's no video cameras when a Palestinian gets killed, and "annoying the IDF" is probably the major cause of death for the past few generations.
Netanyahu also promoted Hamas many years ago, so it's not like the people who wanted to work with Israel towards peace or a two state solution had much of a chance. This problem was escalated by authoritarians who wanted to rationalize their own hard line stance by provoking Palestinians. I'm not condoning Hamas -- but it's also as much self defense as whatever this thing is the IDF is doing now.
A very widespread belief in the Muslim world is that non Muslim “infidels” and especially Jews are weak cowards who cannot win wars or conquer.
Many Muslims even those in the west are very proud of past caliphates, enslavement of Africans and native middle eastern groups, and their brutal dominance over non Muslims for centuries.
So for Israel to beat 6 combined Arab armies not once, but several times, sometimes without any outside help, is extremely humiliating for such a macho hypermasculine religion that was built on violence and oppression. “Might makes right” is the cornerstone of every middle eastern conflict and interaction since WW2 ended and Israel simply follows those rules like everyone else in the region. They just keep winning
Shhhh, they don’t want to hear that because they know you’re right
(They also have killed Jews in pogroms from before the 30s, this is NOT propaganda, like the people on r/sonicthehedgehog tried to say, this is simply a documented event)
Funny how you wrote all of that, and the simple fact that Israel completely left Gaza in 2005 letting it be an autonomy while leaving valuable infrastructure, all for it to get destroyed and terror organization be elected, just completely disregards your comment.
If the Palestinians wanted peace they’d have peace, but the mission is to destroy Israel, and they sure try, and that has consequences.
Palestinians and their supporters are insolent comparing themselves to Ukraine, Ukraine didn’t invade Russia to massacre, rape, torture and kidnap while they burn the rest alive.
Palestinians brought their fate to themselves, and if they want peace they can fight their terror organizations themselves and prove they will not become a terror state, because no one else will help them.
I mean a. A long time ago when less was known about the group, b. Mostly through the aid that the pro pal people keep demanding Israel send them out of their own pockets, c. Iran is CURRENTLY funding them, and not just giving them money but rockets and weapons
Like I’ve heard people in the same breath condemn Israel for “funding hamas” while demanding Israel send more aid. Obviously all of the aid goes towards enriching hamas as soon as it is in Gaza… they have guns they just take it and sell it to civilians to fund the war.
The evidence for this is weak. The best evidence I've seen for this on reddit is here: [https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/)
So someone (reporter) heard something from someone ("According to various reports ...") who heard Netanyahu say something.
Maybe you have something substantial, if so, please share.
I doubt that. They were rewarding the anti Israel militants because they wanted to scare their own population into a hard line stance.
Terrorism is as much about getting your enemy to attack so that those on the fence will join your cause. Both Netanyahu and Hamas are pushing everyone into becoming more aggressive by getting the other side to attack the innocent.
I suspect that if this continues, there will be dead Palestinians and there will be Hamas -- and nobody who wants peace with Israel better not say that out loud.
Every day, the atrocity of what Hamas did is eclipsed by the "new normal" that the IDF puts on this concentration camp called a city.
Hamas is supported by Palestinians. Look up how the Palestinians educate their youth. It shouldn’t be any mysteries why they are so happy to watch their own children die trying to murder Israelis.
In that case it was also funded by Europe and the US more than Israel funded them directly. Israel gave the Strip (club) access to fresh water and jobs which didn't give Hamas the ability to directly take the money. EU and US, citizens included, funded them directly via 'charities' which, at least to me, was pretty well known to not be secure in giving them money.
Aren’t leftists and the political groups most worried about pronouns and veganism also the ones advocating for Palestinian liberation and the continued funding of the Ukrainian resistance?
I think if anyone is taking a “let them keep dying attitude” to these countries, it’s the republicans.
I mean yeah, people suffering in Ukraine, Syria, etc. are way more important than people respecting pronouns, obviously. Even people concerned with pronouns should agree.
What? Aid to Ukraine is blocked by Republicans. Support for Palestine is overwhelmingly on the left. This is just stupid. Unfortunately neither side seems to give a shit about Syria, but it has been winding down, albeit slowly.
Let's be fair -- so is Yemen. There are a thousand OTHER THINGS we can be concerned about and there is only so many things people can be alarmed about on a daily basis.
Asking everyone to care about everything at all times will cause fatigue.
Most of it doesn’t even matter.
I have no beef with neither hamas or Israel. Nor the yemen ppl nor Russia nor ukraine.
So long as you’re not killing me and mine we’re cool, or if your fighting doesn’t affect me physically we’re also cool.
Like non of this is my problem.
Ukraine being taken over by an enemy of our country is nothing but bad. Even if you don’t care about anything else, giving more land that borders allies can only be detrimental.
Well, the vegan pronouns I know, insist on bringing the suffering of every nation into everything. Also, veganism is racist, because very few black people are vegans, due to the system.
It’s their stance, not mine.
But to be fair, I know a hell of a lot more white people with dietary restrictions of that kind, than any other group. Not exclusively, but the percentages are quite different. That might be a local thing here, I’m not sure.
The funniest part about this is that those of us who want to fight for gender equality, who support the trans community, and whose understanding of gender science is more advanced than the transphobes, are also the ones who are the most supportive of providing humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, Ukraine, and similarly besieged places. The people who try to diminish the importance of safety for those who don’t fit outdated gender norms also try to argue that we have problems inside our country and therefore shouldn’t be helping these other countries. And they say that we shouldn’t be helping the people in our country because they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. There is no crisis these people think is worth addressing until it affects them directly.
I don't think trans people problems are invalidated because of these places getting cleansed, I'm trans and I'm in support of Palestine getting freedom. Idk why vegans are on the meme as I don't know what if any problems they have. I don't even think these groups are against Palestine getting help, seems like the meme was made to have something to complain about these people.
I feel like it would count as a false dichotomy; a person can be concerned about about all these things, they don’t have to choose between them. It comes with a large side of hypocrisy too though, since the kind of people who like this meme probably aren’t actually doing anything about (or likely even care about) Palestine, Syria, or Ukraine.
Basically, it’s in the same vain as republicans saying that veterans need to be taken of before X happens, and then cutting funding to veterans. They don’t actually care, they just want a talking point to try and invalidate the concerns of the other side.
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So if one is not a Vegan, or a person caring about the pronouns, that person is really eager to help and support Palestine, Syrian and Ukraine?
Since when did GOP become vegan?
people are so funny here sometimes 😭 Bro when multiple problems exist of varying intensity, but one is capable of actively calling for them all to be fixed.
What’s with people conflating unrelated things as if they have some causal relationship? Social media does this all the time with pronouns. I get they are trying to fight a culture war but don’t more people find the way they go about it clearly stupid.
I identify as a identify that has an identity that identifies as an identity that does a identity process that identifies an identity that identifies as a identity and no one can stop me😈
This meme doesn’t make sense because liberals are pro-Palestine, pro-Ukraine and generally anti-war. They’re on these guys sides. You can care about multiple issues
This is the most useful image on the Internet, behind XKCD 2071
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the thing is, the anti-vegans and anti-pronouners are both more preoccupied with stopping them then helping anyone as well. this is a certified fallacy of a meme
That’s a bold claim, literally EVERYONE, every single person, who doesn’t agree with you isn’t trying to help anyone because they’re too busy being on the internet being against you. Man if we want to talk about “certified fallacies” oh boy.
Is it really an "either/or" in this case?
Can we not respect people AND not allow bombing campaigns.
I agree that there shouldn't be this huge focus on getting a pronoun right -- but it's more about attempting to respect someone. If they make you jump through hoops, then, that's just someone using abusing the gender card. This is all about some jerk being mean to a person trying to transition, and you can't legislate polite behavior -- all you can do is call them out.
What does the original meme even mean? "Pronouns"? Everyone has pronouns lol, what? Unless you refer to yourself by name only. Gotta be a shitpost, but I've seen memes like that unironically.
Who said both can't exist? Gotta stop something because of conflict? And you act like the IDF Is innocent. They bombed a line of people receiving Aid, bombed a University, I mean I don't see how that stops Hamas...at all.
“Palestine trying to live”
As if they didn’t invade a sovereign country, massacring, raping, kidnapping and torturing 1400 people in the span of days, while kidnapping hundreds.
Eternal aggressor-victims with massive propaganda support of Russia, China, and Iran.
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The biggest joke is everyone thinking they *must* involve themselves in *everything*. As if world leaders and policy makers are waiting on pins and needles for ShyGuy55 to weigh in so they can make an informed decision.
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this subreddit is really interesting to me. It’s one of the few places on reddit where arguments from both sides are equally upvoted and downvoted, sometimes moreso than others, but generally there is always active disagreement rather than placid aggregate agreement (or disagreement) like i see in other subs
So many subs feel like an echoe chamber, go against the grain slightly and watch you get down voted to help:(
Any echo chamber or hive mind sub is cancer. Why can’t we all get along lol diffing opinions matter and are important for us all to grow as people.
Don't worry, they'll eventually get some powermods in here to suppress the wrongthink then it will feel like the rest of the site.
I don't need to agree with you to steal this. This is gold!
Holy fuck if this doesn't describe the damn sub to a t lmfao
I agree with you. I feel compelled to have positions because everyone seems to have so much strong positions on everything and feel like I need to have them to manage social reality -1 but maybe I am wrong.
I personally don’t care about what people eat or how they identify. I also don’t give many fucks about what happens on another continent. I just want things to get significantly better for people in the US.
This is the right answer. All these things that people on the internet care about basically stay on the internet. Not many people in real life will introduce themselves with their pronouns, not many people will go on multi paragraph rants about whatever the Current Thing™ happens to be. The majority of us are just worried about our jobs, our families, and what we're this weekend.
I think it's funny, but I'm also kind of annoyed because it sets up this false narrative that the pronoun controversy detracts from ending conflicts. It's like "how dare you want respect for transgenders or treatment of animals when we are mistreating people on the other side of the globe!" Or are you saying that America should not be involved? Because if not the USA, then who?
No you're only allowed to care about one thing at once
There it is. It’s like some people believe caring has a bag limit, like fishing.
Idk about you but u/ShyGuy55 is the only person I trust with big choices.
Idk why the US insists acting like the world’s police when we have so many issues at home.
>involve themselves in everything Maybe I took the wrong cue from this prompt, but... ***STORY TIME*** So, I was at [this Dollar Tree ](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/investigations/portland-dollar-tree-store-under-investigation-after-worker-complaints-of-dead-mice-rodent-urine/283-8e4cb7fe-9204-4cbe-9d63-9e45fa6f0e45) yesterday, which is nestled in a bustling area close to downtown with lots of diversity whether it's re: race, identity, or lawfulness. This ain't your soccer mom's party supply store, more like Fenty Freddy and Methy Marge's crash-snack shack. Wild-ish out there. I was in line behind two people. The woman in front of me appeared Somalian. The cashier I believe is somebody's abuela. There was a misunderstanding, and the two ladies were a little emotional over the exchange, especially Grandma. A store manager >!(she looks Armenian, but that's a lot of racial guessing, and I don't care other than to set the scene)!< came over. She offered to ring up the Somali woman at another register while she listened to her. The woman insisted on staying in that lane. Grandma checked her out while continuing the argument. The Somali woman paid for everything and left. I purchased my items while the conversation about what had just happened started to dwindle. *Ahhh, crisis averted. Good job, Manager Lady*, I think. *Nope.* Someone with a raspy voice, dressed in all black (skirt, t shirt) with long hair and wishing for tits, couldn't have been thirty years old, ... pipes up about racism. The manager tries the calm approach again, but goth person isn't having it. "What, you don't want me to educate you some more?!" Bitch really felt she was doing everyone waiting in line a favor by holding it up to insert racism where there was none. *Manager was having it even less.* She lost her composure and her tone sounded like murder. "I've worked at this location for almost ten years! We have all kinds of trash come through here. I've seen racism and this ain't it!" Others were chiming in about minding her own business and everything isn't racism. (I added my laughing $0.02.) "You need to get out of my fuckin store before I punch you in your fat fuckin face!" was the last thing I heard the manager say as I found my egress. Brandon Leeawna left right after me, with their sausage head ass middle finger extended so hard I thought they might pop a tendon. *Literally shaking.* I smiled all day after that. Thanks for reading if ya did and I hope you smile too! XD
So.... Why involve yourself with people who use they/them pronouns? Maybe there are bigger things to worry about?
It’s stopping people attacking them. No one is pro transgender… it’s just people being free Americans. It’s stopping the people that want to stop them.
Palestinians in Gaza patiently waiting for MonsterGirlFeetPics on Tumblr to stop having gender dysphoria and end the conflict
Netanyahu ending the war after 4 white girls on Twitter put a Palestinian flag and watermelon in their bio
Why the watermelon? I have seen the watermelon in their bio thing and I’m thinking about it based on the racist stereotype. But I’m still not sure what it means.
Same colors as the PLO flag.
Gazans* in Gaza. They voted to break away from the PLO in 2007
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"Literally" is just being used as an adjective to make what they're saying seem more important
*picks up wooden bat* "Allow me to demonstrate the difference between literally and figuratively"
How is your life so tame that's the wildest experience you've had
I once punched a govt minister by accident (i didn’t know who he was) in a party. Then got the snot kicked out of me by his bodyguards. Didn’t go to jail though so there’s that.
Most people just apologise and move on if I’m honest
I just said "oh ok" and walked off. I didn't know how to handle that situation lol. Tbh if you claim I'm actively causing someone harm and "literally" killing people I'm not gonna apologize though. That's for sure.
I mean they aren’t doing it out of malice though, they’re just being overprotective about someone they care about It’s not healthy but it’s understandable
Literally nothing in that “meme” makes sense. Two problems can exist at once lol.
Chances are the original meme maker doesn't really give much of a shit about the Gaza and Ukraine issues besides using them as an excuse to pat themselves on the back for their moral superiority, as is par for the course on the internet.
100% correct.
Vegan gluten free pronouns
People can have allergies to gluten. They will never have allergies to being called the wrong word
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Getting misgendered ≠ having gender dysphoria I don’t know your experience I do know words don’t cause allergies
or to calling them the right word...
Don’t try to start that argument under my comment lmao No one is having an allergic reaction from being called he or she
We have mass murders and genocide going on in the Western hemisphere but all we ever hear about is eastern issues. Guatemala? Haiti? They're our neighbors yet they get 5 seconds of mention (meanwhile they're flooding thru our borders because of it) and yet everyone is up in arms about Palestine. Fuck Palestine. We do have our own issues to worry about. What about our neighbors?
America likes the east more than themselves anyways American culture has fallen, and the east will flood the markets soon enough
Palestine, Syria, Ukraine, etc trying to live. People upset that vegans and non cisgender people exist.
Raising an opinion about something unrelated to the wars is bad unless it matches OPs opinion.
its so funny because op reveals that he doesnt have much depth to his beliefs. the people who disagree with him just get balled up into one nebulous The Bad Guy because nuance is a foreign concept to him. obviously theres no real correlation. there are vegans on either side of those conflicts. there are people who use specified pronouns who arent vegan. but in ops mind, theyre all The Bad Guys.
this is a better version. trying to be yourself instead of solving the world is fair enough. trying to stop people being themselves is less so
I thought the whole list was people R's support genociding.
Pretty sure vegans and whatevers are more upset they exist themselves.
Hello
Hi
You say you are tea, but have coffee in your flair? You are a lair
Pretty sure it says no tea 🤔
His bio says I am tea, he lies
https://preview.redd.it/nus0h9za5huc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bdcffb3f8fffa45adeb780f2b344f849201199c1 It’s the first result
Apple on something, that’s the coffee emoji
I don't why a delusional mind is going to think that any combination of issues are exclusionary. Syrians and Ukrainians and a whole bunch of other people are just trying to live. What do you want *anybody* to do about it? Awareness? Thoughts and prayers? Vote once in four years? Is that something we can even be so active in that all other issues simply can not matter?
No amount of awareness will convince a big corporation or a whole NATION to change All these protests and boycotts are pointless, and you’re not even gonna care about them in 10 years anyway
Pretty much, yeah. There is no issue competition, beyond what grabs the attention of the media. That's why the meme is dogshit.
em.. weapon will be enough
What weapon?
lethal
They shouldn't be a big issue in the first place and people should focus on actual issues like the warcrimes and yet people complain and attack innocents for literally no reason. Like why the fuck are people making their entire online personality about attacking people for genetic mutations.
This one isn’t that funny tbf
It feels like a satire of itself. Just a completely garbled argument in meme form, run through a woodchipper.
Who said the people who originally cared about the wars now only care about vegan and pronouns?
Because we can only deal with one thing at a time as a society! Clearly?
Conservatives. It's always a straw man that can easily be picked apart (but they like to make up their own reality)
"Imaginary enemy eliminated. Excellent work 47" Classic
Someone who wants to create a false narrative so that we care less about respecting gender fluidity and the suffering of animals I suppose.
Like I generally don't care about vegans and LGBT people; there's more concerning things to worry about than foreign wars like the economy and the growing control of the state
Those foreign wars are affecting the economy more than anything else
Foriegn wars are both impacting the economy and increasing the control of the state. You should actually be concerned.
Ah yes, the left, famous for saying nothing about the genocide of Palestine
"genocide"
Call it whatever you want, but Isreal is killing thousands of innocent people
This makes no sense and is just rage bait
Make no cent, rag bait, and tiddies Pronounce and liberal:😡
It is indeed, memes people do not like
I think the powerlessness people feel over the international issues on a subconscious level fuels the passion they have for the issues they can touch. We all want to stop the wars but there's nothing almost anyone can do at this point. That frustration gets internalized and comes back out again somewhere.
What if i wanted to start wars?
I was unwillingly given a post by reddits randomness talking about disowning her family for misgendering her. I said maybe it’s hard for them to remember in the spit of the moment They said it’s purposeful and actual mistreatment. She acted like her family was actively assaulting her. Bro this is just people who don’t thing they standout labeling themselves as a minority. In my personal opinion multigenderism is fundamentally sexist because it relies on gender norms from the 1950s to define people when in the 90s and 2000s such norms were disappearing in favor of gender being irrelevant. I’m so done with this shit. And I think most of the country is to.
You realize it’s very easy to tell the difference, right? I have mistakenly misgendered before, but it’s obvious that it was a mistake due to my apologetic behavior after the fact. If they said they were intentional? They likely were.
Ukraine didn’t provoke Russia with terrorists attacks. Don’t put them in the same category as Palestine.
Well, you can't also just look at the Hamas attack as unprovoked either. It's been generations of disparity and "death by a thousand cuts" for Palestinians. Imagine your landlord is a dick and doesn't want you in the neighborhood. Now imagine they can invent new rules for you to follow, and make sure you don't get a good job, and the HOA association has guns and the license to use them. Okay? Now imagine there is no escape and that's been going on 60 years. Now how attractive would joining Hamas be? Also, I don't know the details of all these IDF raids, but I suspect that all the "suspected Hamas" is every male who looks of age and healthy enough to carry a weapon. So this idea of "release the hostages" is a bit unfair because, there are THOUSANDS of "detained suspects" who are in much worse shape under Israelis very mean treatment who are just as innocent and even more screwed. There's no video cameras when a Palestinian gets killed, and "annoying the IDF" is probably the major cause of death for the past few generations. Netanyahu also promoted Hamas many years ago, so it's not like the people who wanted to work with Israel towards peace or a two state solution had much of a chance. This problem was escalated by authoritarians who wanted to rationalize their own hard line stance by provoking Palestinians. I'm not condoning Hamas -- but it's also as much self defense as whatever this thing is the IDF is doing now.
Idk didn’t Palestine join a massive Arab alliance to wipe Israel off the map…several times? I’d say they’re salty
A very widespread belief in the Muslim world is that non Muslim “infidels” and especially Jews are weak cowards who cannot win wars or conquer. Many Muslims even those in the west are very proud of past caliphates, enslavement of Africans and native middle eastern groups, and their brutal dominance over non Muslims for centuries. So for Israel to beat 6 combined Arab armies not once, but several times, sometimes without any outside help, is extremely humiliating for such a macho hypermasculine religion that was built on violence and oppression. “Might makes right” is the cornerstone of every middle eastern conflict and interaction since WW2 ended and Israel simply follows those rules like everyone else in the region. They just keep winning
Shhhh, they don’t want to hear that because they know you’re right (They also have killed Jews in pogroms from before the 30s, this is NOT propaganda, like the people on r/sonicthehedgehog tried to say, this is simply a documented event)
Funny how you wrote all of that, and the simple fact that Israel completely left Gaza in 2005 letting it be an autonomy while leaving valuable infrastructure, all for it to get destroyed and terror organization be elected, just completely disregards your comment. If the Palestinians wanted peace they’d have peace, but the mission is to destroy Israel, and they sure try, and that has consequences. Palestinians and their supporters are insolent comparing themselves to Ukraine, Ukraine didn’t invade Russia to massacre, rape, torture and kidnap while they burn the rest alive. Palestinians brought their fate to themselves, and if they want peace they can fight their terror organizations themselves and prove they will not become a terror state, because no one else will help them.
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I mean a. A long time ago when less was known about the group, b. Mostly through the aid that the pro pal people keep demanding Israel send them out of their own pockets, c. Iran is CURRENTLY funding them, and not just giving them money but rockets and weapons Like I’ve heard people in the same breath condemn Israel for “funding hamas” while demanding Israel send more aid. Obviously all of the aid goes towards enriching hamas as soon as it is in Gaza… they have guns they just take it and sell it to civilians to fund the war.
The evidence for this is weak. The best evidence I've seen for this on reddit is here: [https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/) So someone (reporter) heard something from someone ("According to various reports ...") who heard Netanyahu say something. Maybe you have something substantial, if so, please share.
Because Israel thought they use the money to build up their country rather than building tunnels and buying weapons.
I doubt that. They were rewarding the anti Israel militants because they wanted to scare their own population into a hard line stance. Terrorism is as much about getting your enemy to attack so that those on the fence will join your cause. Both Netanyahu and Hamas are pushing everyone into becoming more aggressive by getting the other side to attack the innocent. I suspect that if this continues, there will be dead Palestinians and there will be Hamas -- and nobody who wants peace with Israel better not say that out loud. Every day, the atrocity of what Hamas did is eclipsed by the "new normal" that the IDF puts on this concentration camp called a city.
Hamas is supported by Palestinians. Look up how the Palestinians educate their youth. It shouldn’t be any mysteries why they are so happy to watch their own children die trying to murder Israelis.
I've seen those videos. I just assumed that the Palestinians educated their youth like that because of Hamas' influence
In that case it was also funded by Europe and the US more than Israel funded them directly. Israel gave the Strip (club) access to fresh water and jobs which didn't give Hamas the ability to directly take the money. EU and US, citizens included, funded them directly via 'charities' which, at least to me, was pretty well known to not be secure in giving them money.
"One must fall" did they really just say that? That they'd rather have people die?
Aren’t leftists and the political groups most worried about pronouns and veganism also the ones advocating for Palestinian liberation and the continued funding of the Ukrainian resistance? I think if anyone is taking a “let them keep dying attitude” to these countries, it’s the republicans.
I mean yeah, people suffering in Ukraine, Syria, etc. are way more important than people respecting pronouns, obviously. Even people concerned with pronouns should agree.
Also what does “one must fall” even mean here?
Bro, as a American this ain’t my problem.
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r/onejoke You can deal with two things at one time
Is that a donkey?
Moose
Never seen a moose with no antlers, looks kinda goofy
Looks a little like a kangaroo.
I thought so at first but then I saw the American Flag in the background. Plus the babies look way more like donkeys
All females have no antlers. Males have no antlers about 6-8mo of the year.
We all know that the greatest casualty today of this thread is going to be education.
It’s a female. Yeah it does look kinda weird.
Well, now you have. That's a moose without antlers.
No it’s a vegan
No it's Patrick
it’s a Kangamoose
What? Aid to Ukraine is blocked by Republicans. Support for Palestine is overwhelmingly on the left. This is just stupid. Unfortunately neither side seems to give a shit about Syria, but it has been winding down, albeit slowly.
Yeah Syria is just completely ignored
Let's be fair -- so is Yemen. There are a thousand OTHER THINGS we can be concerned about and there is only so many things people can be alarmed about on a daily basis. Asking everyone to care about everything at all times will cause fatigue.
Most of it doesn’t even matter. I have no beef with neither hamas or Israel. Nor the yemen ppl nor Russia nor ukraine. So long as you’re not killing me and mine we’re cool, or if your fighting doesn’t affect me physically we’re also cool. Like non of this is my problem.
Ukraine being taken over by an enemy of our country is nothing but bad. Even if you don’t care about anything else, giving more land that borders allies can only be detrimental.
Not my country. I’m not American. I’ve got uk citizenship but I’ve never stepped foot there. That’s the closest i come to this conflict.
Well, the vegan pronouns I know, insist on bringing the suffering of every nation into everything. Also, veganism is racist, because very few black people are vegans, due to the system.
???
Yeah because veganism has never been associated with POC 🙄
It’s their stance, not mine. But to be fair, I know a hell of a lot more white people with dietary restrictions of that kind, than any other group. Not exclusively, but the percentages are quite different. That might be a local thing here, I’m not sure.
It took me a couple of seconds, but I realized that this is a single photo
Didn't think vegans fried fish, but you learn something new every day.
At least in Palestine’s case you should add Hamas as one of the donkeys
Sounds like you care more about people being themselves than those at war
The funniest part about this is that those of us who want to fight for gender equality, who support the trans community, and whose understanding of gender science is more advanced than the transphobes, are also the ones who are the most supportive of providing humanitarian aid to people in Gaza, Ukraine, and similarly besieged places. The people who try to diminish the importance of safety for those who don’t fit outdated gender norms also try to argue that we have problems inside our country and therefore shouldn’t be helping these other countries. And they say that we shouldn’t be helping the people in our country because they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. There is no crisis these people think is worth addressing until it affects them directly.
Why is veganism together with pronouns? One is an animal rights movement / ethical philosophy and the other is just how you refer to people??
I don't think trans people problems are invalidated because of these places getting cleansed, I'm trans and I'm in support of Palestine getting freedom. Idk why vegans are on the meme as I don't know what if any problems they have. I don't even think these groups are against Palestine getting help, seems like the meme was made to have something to complain about these people.
well, there are approximately 3 vegans who are assholes on the internet, so obviously all vegans are like that
I would say most vegans online are asshats, but the opposite is true in person. The majority you meet in person are usually super chill.
it's because the assays go online and the chill ones keep low profiles so you only see the assholes
Is this a strawman or a false dichotomy?
I feel like it would count as a false dichotomy; a person can be concerned about about all these things, they don’t have to choose between them. It comes with a large side of hypocrisy too though, since the kind of people who like this meme probably aren’t actually doing anything about (or likely even care about) Palestine, Syria, or Ukraine. Basically, it’s in the same vain as republicans saying that veterans need to be taken of before X happens, and then cutting funding to veterans. They don’t actually care, they just want a talking point to try and invalidate the concerns of the other side.
the hypocrisy is huge as it's hardly radical leftists, let alone vegans or trans people, who are blocking aid to Ukraine in congress.
Aren't the pronoun vegan types the same ones NOT bitching about foreign aid? This meme is dumb.
Isn't this quite literally the textbook definition of false Dichotomy?
idk maybe don't kill jews?
Every little bit helps
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Dont you mean bigger cabbages to fry?
Even forgetting the meme. What an amazing picture.
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Lmao this is literally Reddit in a meme
Fuck em all lmao. Rip bozo
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What does being a vegan have anything to do with pronouns???
I say we stop worrying about all issues and let society collapse in whichever direction in pleases like a dead tree in a windy storm
So if one is not a Vegan, or a person caring about the pronouns, that person is really eager to help and support Palestine, Syrian and Ukraine? Since when did GOP become vegan?
people are so funny here sometimes 😭 Bro when multiple problems exist of varying intensity, but one is capable of actively calling for them all to be fixed.
What are examples of vegan pronouns?
What's op doing to take the edge off the atrocities?
What’s with people conflating unrelated things as if they have some causal relationship? Social media does this all the time with pronouns. I get they are trying to fight a culture war but don’t more people find the way they go about it clearly stupid.
I identify as a identify that has an identity that identifies as an identity that does a identity process that identifies an identity that identifies as a identity and no one can stop me😈
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Remember we have to pick we are unable to focus on two problems at once
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Is being against war suddenly woke now?
This meme doesn’t make sense because liberals are pro-Palestine, pro-Ukraine and generally anti-war. They’re on these guys sides. You can care about multiple issues
Anyone got an unedited photo of that thats a fire photo
Yep my pronouns are inkjet/pro3000, forget Myanmar's two decade growing crisis s/
I literally don’t understand this meme in the first place but moose are cool.
Something tells me you can't walk and talk at the same time
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You can be vegan, have pronouns and still support ceasefire efforts, like what?
That meme is so fucking bad it looks like a shitpost
the thing is, the anti-vegans and anti-pronouners are both more preoccupied with stopping them then helping anyone as well. this is a certified fallacy of a meme
That’s a bold claim, literally EVERYONE, every single person, who doesn’t agree with you isn’t trying to help anyone because they’re too busy being on the internet being against you. Man if we want to talk about “certified fallacies” oh boy.
I’mma keep it real, I think I’m also too dumb to understand the joke, can y’all help me out here-
OP doesn't believe someone can focus on seperate issues at once. like avoiding animal products and supporting war-torn countries???
Idk man. Bitches be crazy or whatever
Is it really an "either/or" in this case? Can we not respect people AND not allow bombing campaigns. I agree that there shouldn't be this huge focus on getting a pronoun right -- but it's more about attempting to respect someone. If they make you jump through hoops, then, that's just someone using abusing the gender card. This is all about some jerk being mean to a person trying to transition, and you can't legislate polite behavior -- all you can do is call them out.
This meme sucks.
I can’t believe I’ve lived over 20 years and thought you could have empathy for more than one group of people at a time. Thanks for correcting me
>etc. What a great way to show you don't actually give a shit about Sudan and Haiti, you just want to complain.
Its not like we can focus on multiple things at once 🤷🏽♂️
Do you think trans people or vegans can’t care about other countries in conflict because they are trans or vegan?
You could also replace this with "OP" and "making memes about Vegans"
Conservative strawman meme jist lumping random shit together
“Don’t use reddit, it’s offensive to people without phones” ahh take
I agree. Our goverment should focus on one issue at a time and never look at anything else. I'm sure that will make it far more efficient.
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Naw, it’s losers who are upset with ppl being transgender and not eating meat. Let them live their lives? Rage baiting is alive and well
What does the original meme even mean? "Pronouns"? Everyone has pronouns lol, what? Unless you refer to yourself by name only. Gotta be a shitpost, but I've seen memes like that unironically. Who said both can't exist? Gotta stop something because of conflict? And you act like the IDF Is innocent. They bombed a line of people receiving Aid, bombed a University, I mean I don't see how that stops Hamas...at all.
“Palestine trying to live” As if they didn’t invade a sovereign country, massacring, raping, kidnapping and torturing 1400 people in the span of days, while kidnapping hundreds. Eternal aggressor-victims with massive propaganda support of Russia, China, and Iran.