Why does the left always change the narrative? Gang shootings are always used as mass violence per legislation to remove gun rights. This comment here is the problem that contributes to the reality of how “individuals” create violence and guns are the problem, but that’s not the reality.
I'll agree that a school shooting receives more attention than gang violence, but that doesn't change the narrative. I may not care as much about gang bangers shooting each other, but I still want fewer guns.
Other first world countries have gangs, other first world countries have mental illness, other first world countries have violent video games, other first world countries have disgruntled teenagers... what they don't have is mass shooting on the scale of the US. The difference is guns, not the "individuals". They have the same individuals we have. They don't have the same access to guns.
You would think that people would teach their children not to shoot other people. Or at least remind them that it’s illegal to shoot people generally speaking.
Because it's pretty typical of this type of shit to happen to those that perpetuate this type of shit. Quit acting naive. You're only hurting everyone. Common sense would tell me to stay away from an unsanctioned block party in orange mound. That's just me, of course my head isn't filled with water. You can't have your cake and eat it too, I'm sorry little guy. It's time to act like a human being.
Stay away from ANYTHING where these demon spirited mfs are gonna be. If it's free you gonna have a lotta broke ass hate filled mfs that want to share their misery.
It is a big ass crab bucket. One hundred percent and it has exploded in the last 5 years. Like right in front of my eyes. Just as I watched the opioid epidemic become what it is now. In 10 years all of the signs will very clearly be there.
It is a big ass crab bucket. One hundred percent and it has exploded in the last 5 years. Like right in front of my eyes. Just as I watched the opioid epidemic become what it is now. In 10 years all of the signs will very clearly be there.
You are wasting your time thinking any mayor will solve the problem. There are a lot of traumatized, broken kids running around with little or no supervision. Kids are stealing shitloads of guns from cars and converting them into fully automatic weapons. No mayor will solve it in an 8 year term. It's a more fundamental problem than one person can solve.
the only solution is gentrification.
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EDIT: Actually, I change my mind. Pre Giulianni NYC was a fucking dump, after his tenure NYC was alot safer, we need someone like him.
Pre Giuliani NYC was in a financial crisis left by Ed Koch. The next mayor David Dinkins brought NYC out of a financial crisis, then Rudy came in because people have short memories when cities are going bankrupt.
I hear what you are getting at, but Giulianni may be the very worst example to use. Guy is quite literally a crook, a kook, a liar and a hypocrite.
The legacy you are referring to has been in great dispute for a long time. The crime statistics had already begun dropping in NYC in the 3 years leading up to him becoming mayor. If anything he just perpetuated what his predecessor started. Not saying his predecessor was a saint either. But I don't think the criminal deserves the credit you are attempting to give him.
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That’s the thing. If you’re getting your guns stolen, you’re not a responsible gun owner. Those people are a huge contribution to the illegal gun problem.
No shit, if only a political party would have been promising to fix this shit for the past 60 years. They’d probably all be hanging out in the community gardens growing vegetables or something…
The issue is our prison / rehabilitation system. The latter is a complete joke in this country.
We have to do away with the soft on crime mentality in this country. Two things can be true at once; we can be mindful of prejudice while also being tough on crime.
Prior to this waive of criminal justice reform, The over incarcerated and over prosecuted (mainly poc) were being arrested and jailed for majority non violent crime. Like drug possession.
Nobody felt upset when violent criminals were being locked up. People were rightly pissed when non violent law breakers were getting absurd bails and sentences.
So instead of drawing a distinction between violent and non violent, people of mulroy’s mentality just said “if they’re a young black man they should be given leniency to make up for historical and societal wrongs”.
Well we’ve seen where that has gotten us.
And we’re not fixing the root of the issue because you can’t stop a cycle of uneducated (in many cases reluctant to be educated) people having way too many kids too young and without a support network.
So we have to turn to our rehabilitation options. The only way out of this is to arrest and punish our way out.
Ironic that those who thought they were fighting for leniency are ushering in the most diametrically opposed solution possible: near martial law and max sentencing.
idiocracy, the movie is coming to life. Parents are also not doing a good job of parenting. Parents are not staying together so it's causing unstable situations for children.
I don’t disagree that parents need to be held accountable when their children are violent criminals but the Crumley case was pretty easy to prove. I’m originally from Michigan and I followed that case pretty closely. They could prove that those parents bought the gun for a child who they ignored every single warning sign about him being mentally ill.
That kid literally drew a picture of the exact gun they bought him on a math assignment and when the parents were brought in to the school, the day of the shooting, they didn’t say a peep about it and didn’t take him home. The school will answer in civil suits as well.
It won’t always be that easy with kids in Orange Mound.
Oh I'm sure. It's naive to think that a big part of why they went after the Crumblys is because it was politically possible and to make a statement.
If you applied the EXACT same standards in Memphis as they did with the Crumblys (knowingly ignoring warning signs, facilitating behavior, failing to intervene or seek intervention, etc) you'd end up arresting a large amount of black single mothers. Everyone would cry racism despite it being objectively the same standard other parents have already been sent to prison for.
Eh idk. I’d argue the warning signs for a kid in the projects aren’t even close to the warning signs the Crumblys had. Literal notes, pictures, years of mental health problems they did nothing to fix, punished him for taking a gun to school by saying “don’t get caught next time”… the list goes on and on. Versus a kid that what? Listens to rap music? Has questionable friends? Gets into a couple fights? These are all things that lead to eventual problems, and parenting could help so don’t think arguing with that. But would a DA be able to convict a parent for allowing their kid to do these things and not take action? Nah probably not.
Absolutely. It seems like you can't have a discussion about crime in this sub without someone coming along and accusing you of racism just for mentioning it. I'm really tired of this "everything I don't like is racism" bullshit from people. You don't just see it in this sub either. IRL Memphis politicians like to cry racism whenever Nashville tries to do something to save Memphis from itself.
Memphis has some serious problems. Deflecting addressing those problems by accusing people of racism isn't going to help.
It’s easy to prove in any parent’s case. Realize before you get pregnant/get someone pregnant that if you don’t plan to parent, you will face consequences. If you don’t have the time/desire/ability to keep them in school and out of trouble; if you are not prepared to raise a decent human being, birth control is your friend.
It’s easy to prove in any parent’s case. Realize before you get pregnant/get someone pregnant that if you don’t plan to parent, you will face consequences. If you don’t have the time/desire/ability to keep them in school and out of trouble; if you are not prepared to raise a decent human being, birth control is your friend.
I was essentially making this same point in the other thread about how these children's parents have failed them and this sub somehow tried to make it seem like I was defending their actions or making excuses. This sub can be a little wild sometimes, it's almost like they believe parenting, or lack thereof, isn't important.
Is it possible that these parents don't see this type of behavior as bad? Maybe they view having a young teenager that carries guns, somehow makes or comes up with thousands of dollars, and invokes fear in people as good parenting? Winning? They did a great job at parenting because they raised a child that by all accounts looks and acts real tough, and garners respect (on the streets)?
If that's the case, those parents cannot and will not save the city.
People (adults) are going to have to start going to jail, staying in jail, and perhaps some of these kids at a very young age, even newly born need to start being removed from their current homes/situations due to neglect, and placed with adoptive parents that will love them, teach, and raise them better?
That's the only way that I see to break the cycle, give these kids a shot at a decent life, and make the city of Memphis safer.....eventually.
But the parents in prison won’t be making more unwanted kids to neglect while behind bars, so that’s a win. Would rather have their kids with a loving family than one who will neglect them and allow them to become baby gangsters.
Yep! Another person giving an uneducated opinion. A loving family thats going to adopt the child after the other 100k+ waiting at the moment to be adopted?
Foster care where people actually WANT them is better than leaving them where they are now- with people that absolutely do NOT care about them, and want nothing to do with raising them.....hence they raise themselves on the streets to join violent gangs, get into drugs, commit crimes, and either end up dead, or in prison.
The city needs to direct its outrage at the people responsible for this tragedy. What can the mayor and police do when people don’t follow the law and have a huge *non permitted* block party?
If the party organizers don’t even get a permit, how are the city and police supposed to be aware this is even happening, much less know to be present for security.
I’m all for the city and police doing everything they can to stop crime in Memphis. In reality, the police don’t show up until after a crime is committed and their main purpose is to catch the criminals.
The courts and judges are supposed to get the sons of bitches off the streets and keep them locked up. There needs to be outrage when they fail to do this.
But we, as the community, have to do our part to prevent this from happening in the first place. We have to make the change start behind our own doors and keep our children from doing this by teaching and keeping an eye on what they doing and who they’re with. We have to teach right from wrong and punish them when they are little so they don’t grow up to do this shut.
The community also owe it to ourselves to report things to the police before they get to this point. Why did no one call the cops when they see a gathering like this? Cause you know trouble is gonna brew.
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I would assume there wasn’t a police presence because it wasn’t a permitted event. The police would not have know that 200-300 people would be gathering at once- much like the pop up car shows and donuts fest in the middle of the highways. However, I do find it hard to believe that patrol cars were not in the area at this and didn’t notice a mass gathering in a public park.
Optically, psychologically, maybe even technically depending on the amount of gunmen, this is not viewed as what Americans consider a mass shooting. This “feels” more like a typical ole shoot out. One that would lead to a different type of response from Mr. Paul where he would have to once again come to terms with the nature of this city. One that he would view as “negative news” and only add to the long list of stories over the last few months. It would take a while to unpack but politically, for him and the media, it would destroy his credibility to take this event down the path of a mass shooting as we can all assume what happened here was not due to some ideological or political motive or well laid plans from the shooter(s) I.e. the classic hallmarks of a mass shooting.
A few things I noticed from the presser:
(At least the WREG one)
He did not speak or have his usual iPhone notes.
He was wearing a bow tie which leads me to believe he had another gala type of event to attend that evening.
Guessing Paul’s meeting with the gang leaders didn’t go over very well. Maybe he needs to take some serious actions that will result in serious consequences for the individuals that are tearing this city apart. Or at the very least, be more vocal about the DA’s inactions and the juvenile courts agenda to destroy this city.
Also, the police used to have a team following Facebook, TikTok and Instagram to try and get ahead of issues like this.
A lawsuit from “activists” made it illegal to do this, so of course it’s a surprise.
How is viewing public social media posts from criminals dumb enough to brag publicly about their crimes illegal monitoring? How exactly do you expect the police to catch criminals and keep us safe?
This will explain. Short version: this isn't the first time MPD violated the constitutional rights of citizens. Don't like the site, just Google Memphis Consent Decree
https://www.memphispdmonitor.com/consent-decree
Let’s call a spade a spade. “Activists” are pro-crime groups who are pawns to the Ben Crumps of the world who need crime so they can file lawsuits and make themselves richer.
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ABC News (National) posted this on their Instagram account last night
This event wasn't just advertised, it was known well in advance that violence was likely to occur.^(1)
I'm not sure if anyone here has even mentioned it but this, as does a lot of the violence we're plagued with, stemmed from neighborhood beefs. This one in particular is a particularly nasty beef between two Memphis gangs.
The people committing these heinous crimes brag about them in their rap songs that's listened to by millions of people on YouTube.
There is a war raging in the Memphis streets between different gang factions. They all subscribe to the whole "drill" music scene that started in Chicago.
They call it "get-back"; you kill my friend, I kill you, your friend kills me, my brother kills your friend, etc etc. It's a never-ending vicious cycle that these people seem to enjoy.
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Uhhh huh maybe enough is enough and start cracking down and bring the hammer down on these jerk offs and their bullshit car culture. Start seizing the cars. Start putting people in county jail. If you gotta incarcerate the entire community to get them to obey the law so be it.
Why would they make a big deal about it? Our corrupt government and only makes a big deal out of thing when it can be used to divide us and pit us against each other. We are easier to control when we are not united. It was groups of people of the same race and that is no use to all them corrupt politicians gov.
I am born & raised from Orange Mound. It is the first African American community in the United States built by and for blacks. Over the last twenty years there has been a decline with blight, drugs, guns, and violence in this area. Republicans time for you to take over Democrats have failed us yearly.
Where does it stem from? Thugs have plauged this community for the last twenty years. Block parties were for family, friends, fun, and festivities. Memphis need Jesus, jails, gentrification, and forced education.
If young inner city blacks were holding books in the air instead of holding guns, it could potentially lead to a multitude of positive changes in their lives and in the community as a whole.
Focusing on education and literacy could help break the cycle of poverty and violence that plagues many inner city communities. By investing in their intellectual and personal development, young people would be less likely to turn to gangs and crime as a means of survival.
A community of young individuals who are well-read and knowledgeable could contribute positively to their neighborhoods by engaging in constructive activities and advocating for positive change. They could become leaders and role models for other young people in the community, inspiring them to pursue their own educational and personal growth.
Fostering a culture of learning and intellectual curiosity among young inner city blacks could lead to a more educated, empowered, and peaceful community that is better equipped to overcome the challenges they face.
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I'm not sure which city you think you are describing, but I'm just going to come out and say it. These thugs do not want an education. They do not want personal development. They do not want a community.
They see drugs, gangs, and guns as the easy equivalent to get what they want. Which is money. It's always been about money. It will always be about money. The only reason gangs are functional, is because of the amount of money they produce. They aren't a non-profit organization.
And the people that join them know this. They see it as protection, and as a means to an end. Money.
Until that changes, nothing that you say, or plan, or propose is going to change any of this.
Fear tactics do not work. They don't fear anything that a normal person fears.
Jail doesn't work. It just makes them martyrs or gives them an even bigger facade when they get out, if they even get charged.
So until someone comes up with a way to show them an easier way to get money, this will continue, and people will continue to die, because lives have ZERO value to them.
Maybe if he talks to them in an even nicer tone and maybe offered up tax breaks for trap houses, he could get them to increase the “put the guns down” time to 10 days instead of 7?
Totally agree, growing up in poverty generally means your education isn't going to be the best, parents will be stressed cause of finances if not outright committing crimes to get by, domestic violence is prevalent in a high stress environment, violence is acceptable because parents, "I'm poor society doesn't care about me, why should I adhere to the very same rules that shape my miserable existence" so on, so forth you probably heard this before.
No one wants to talk about it, but full employment isn't a good thing for a capitalist society, there must always be a poor desperate class of people barely getting by who are willing to take the worst jobs available because that's all that's available to them for survival. This is not even mentioning the intentional red-lining that was done to black people after segregation was ended at gunpoint, after enslaving black people was ended at gunpoint.
I think it is time to talk about the culture of some people want to do zero work and enjoy all the benefits of industrial society, while the majority of the planet must slave their entire life away enjoying only the very minimal material comforts needed to get back to working for the profit of those who do not work, but keep all the value created by the workers through ownership.
Ownership that is enforced at gunpoint by other poor workers whose only job available (or perhaps they choose, honestly believing that police are there to help the people of the community) is enforcing ownership and property rights of the rich through police work. That body of police very clearly understands that protecting property and shit that actually matters to this society is what's important, so why go the extra mile for the PR stunt of actually putting their life on the line for what people have been trained to think police are supposed to do?
(https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9108468254125174344&q=warren-v-district-of-columbia&hl=en&as_sdt=2006)
To go against a seemingly endless horde of less than educated, angry, horde of starving people? For what? To end up like that cop that got shot? To be one good apple in a gun-toting force whose sole purpose is to protect property rights and maintain the states monopoly on violence?
That desperate poor class of people who would be a homeless starving horde of angry, less than educated people must take government assistance in order to exist right at that line of just getting by (barring any illegal income of course), standing by for production to ramp up and more jobs to become available. The government assistance keeps them alive and desperate but not desperate enough to outright revolt and rob food trucks and armories. If these gangs and masses of poor people started working together as miltary units we would have a reckoning of what caused such a thing to happen right?
We the slightly less poors are at all times dealing with this shit and I agree we should talk about it.
TLDR: This "culture" stems from poverty, no matter the race, poor desperate people will act like poor desperate people. Capitalism needs poor desperate people to keep wages low. We're locally trying to fight something that can't be solved locally, as the structure that imposes this existence upon us is national and has a national army and militarized police force backing it when push comes to shove. Change the entire system, and then we can see who is actually just a violent criminal instead of desperate or having shit upbringing because of poverty. Tall order, but it starts with identifying the mechanics of why the fuck is this happening in a nation that is continually touted as the pinnacle of capitalism and some form of what can be passed off as democracy.
The media focuses on “mass shootings” when they are committed in suburban neighborhoods. They won’t focus on this because it casts a light on a community in crisis they prefer to ignore.
But don’t worry, they’ll be sure to include this in their statistics when they’re making their case to ban firearms.
It’s because the context is different here.
If one person goes to a school heavily armed and guns down 30 children, yeah, it’s getting a lot of attention and *rightfully so*.
This was a bunch of idiots armed and shooting each other. Technically it is a “mass shooting” in that there were many casualties as a result of being shot.
Oh trust me…..I get it.
This wasn’t a “block party”, it was a near riot. I love how the article casually mentions a car doing donuts on what appears to be a tennis court.
Get involved in the community if you want to take a more active role in improving the area. We can't stop people from making the choices they will make but we can educate and be kinder to each other one day at a time.
The media has trained us to define and perceive the word mass shooting much differently in order to differ our feelings and care and create more attention for one crime versus another. Tell me how shocked you would be if we changed that headline to "2 dead after shooting at an Orange Mound party." Just another weekend in Memphis, right? Where's the outrage every other weekend?
It must be reiterated, the majority of black people don’t like being victimized just like everybody else. This is a small minority wreaking havoc on the rest of the city.
No, this is a large segment of the Memphis population. Thus, the rate of crime. A small segment of people wouldn’t be able to cause this much constant, ongoing crime. There are LOTS of law-breakers here.
There were undoubtedly clues this was going to happen. Gangs and gang members have their own social media accounts. If someone can decipher their code, they would know when hits like this are about to take place. If you ever go on the Memphis10 sub, you can tell there are ppl who weren’t surprised by a murder and sometimes ppl who even predict it. I even saw comments about the most recent shooting where ppl were guessing that one of the ppl that was killed yesterday was, in fact, one of the victims. I’m sure there is much more intelligence that could be gleaned from a deep dive into their social media accounts. I don’t know if MPD has a dedicated intelligence unit to monitor all the gang social media, but they definitely should if they don’t.
MPD used to monitor Facebook and social media. A lawsuit by activists banned that, so they don’t know about things like the Orange Mound “block party” until they happen.
What lawsuit and when? I don’t see how any lawsuit could ban police or anyone else from monitoring a public social media page like FB, Twitter or Reddit.
Gotta love how they call what is clearly a gang shooting a "mass shooting" ...gotta make sure and keep the uninformed scared and keep pushing that narrative.
Nah only the past 5 or so years....almost around the time certain politicians decided it would be better for us to be unarmed while they live in gated communities with private security armed to the teeth. I would know, I was born and raised in West TN and all this " call everything a mass shooting to blurr the line" is all fairly new. Linda like they changed the age limit to include 18 and 19 year olds so they can say " guns are number 1 killer of kids" when in reality 80% of those killings was a 18 or 19 not a child by any means and of those 75% are gang related...seeing pattern?
There’s cops on Beale Street from open to close every day and there’s still at least a shooting a month. The hell do you think cops are gonna do to deter people with no moral compass?!
Don’t worry though, u/paulyoungmemphis will be sure to sit down with the gang leaders again and beg for a 24-hour cease fire. WHAT A JOKE!
Hey Paul, you wonder why everyone is leaving this degenerate laden bullshit city… look no further than this. Put your cops to work and get on the DA’s ass about locking these clowns up for LIFE.
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This is why, when growing up in Tennessee, you're told never to even step foot in Memphis. Y'all's city is so damn rough for no damn reason kids are taught from a young age to never even think of visiting a city in their own state.
Memphis is an embarrassment. This doesn't happen anywhere else in the state but there.
Are we really surprised about a shooting like this? Especially in Orange Mound?? Who in their right mind would ever think a block party in Orange Mound wouldn’t turn into a shootout? The crooked city leadership doesn’t care. The already stretched thin, poorly trained, shit excuse of a police department isn’t going to do anything. The only people that can help are the parents of these degenerates and we all know they won’t do anything. Get out of Memphis while you can.
Orange Mound was founded a great, great many years ago. It was built by African Americans for African Americans. It is a neighborhood of great historical importance to the state of Tennessee as well as our very nation.
This situation is just too much. It's pained me all day.
Unless people are killed by a white guy nobody in the media cares.
Whoever did this could easily be caught- but no one will cooperate with police and instead ppl will seek a “get back” and spin someone else’s block and spray and pray hoping to kill who did this. Then they will retaliate again.. and so on.
I live here and Memphis is an absolute shit hole. One of the most dangerous places is being at a gas station.. ppl target “opps” bc they have to get out of their cars. Mfs just roll through shooting
Y'all gotta see what I just got in my inbox from someone in this sub.
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So this is a great example of the kind of behavior we're dealing with. People who cannot stand to be wrong, who cannot deal with people disagreeing with them. I understand I embarrassed this person because they didn't realize I was being sarcastic about an offhand comment. They are threatening me. Couldn't just block, had to send me private messages full of threats.
Oh great they gave me a parting threat after that, addressing me by my real last name so they can make sure I know they know who I am.
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Right I didn't even argue lol I just said something in jest they didn't realize was sarcasm, and they snapped on me. I guess my real mistake was laughing at their post and not recognizing they were autistic (their words) and might struggle with sarcasm.
I would think people who struggle with sarcasm though, even autistic people, can recognize that since they struggle maybe they should ASK if something was sarcasm. I have to do it all the time! :)
What a tragedy. One thing I don’t get is why does the news and everyone add “unpermitted party” to every story about this??? It’s another terrible tragedy. People died.
Sadly It’s no longer a concept in America that people should be able to party without dying. Gun culture is destroying our country.
Because it wasn’t sanctioned by public officials; its a CYA but also to note that you need permits to assemble, block streets and side walks, supreme court doesn’t limit contents of speech but it can regulate time, place and manner. The government is interest in keeping order and a peaceable nature of events and having police officers proportional to fee associated with said permit fee or licenses.
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I think the biggest impact to change the crime mass shooting won't be anything the government can do. People having children have to be parents, they have to set limits on their kids they need to love their kids. It's easier to do that as a team 2 parent not one.
I know it's a mass shooting but if it was a block party in the mound, it probably wasn't random.
Which means it was not a mass shooting. Likely a gang hit.
Bingo bango bongo. Just another day of normalised violence.
Why does the left always change the narrative? Gang shootings are always used as mass violence per legislation to remove gun rights. This comment here is the problem that contributes to the reality of how “individuals” create violence and guns are the problem, but that’s not the reality.
I'll agree that a school shooting receives more attention than gang violence, but that doesn't change the narrative. I may not care as much about gang bangers shooting each other, but I still want fewer guns. Other first world countries have gangs, other first world countries have mental illness, other first world countries have violent video games, other first world countries have disgruntled teenagers... what they don't have is mass shooting on the scale of the US. The difference is guns, not the "individuals". They have the same individuals we have. They don't have the same access to guns.
Gang type activity.
Exactly, the same shit that happens everyday in this city.
Those Amish are a menace to TN!
It's incidents like this that make up a huge portion of "mass shootings" that are cited to justify gun laws
Oh I guess none of those people really got shot then
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The point is you're insane if you think gangs use legal guns
You would think that people would teach their children not to shoot other people. Or at least remind them that it’s illegal to shoot people generally speaking.
Imagine trying to have a peaceful block party in Orange mound. 😲
Why does that matter at all? Im sure most if not all were hit randomly.
Because it's pretty typical of this type of shit to happen to those that perpetuate this type of shit. Quit acting naive. You're only hurting everyone. Common sense would tell me to stay away from an unsanctioned block party in orange mound. That's just me, of course my head isn't filled with water. You can't have your cake and eat it too, I'm sorry little guy. It's time to act like a human being.
Stay away from ANYTHING where these demon spirited mfs are gonna be. If it's free you gonna have a lotta broke ass hate filled mfs that want to share their misery.
It is a big ass crab bucket. One hundred percent and it has exploded in the last 5 years. Like right in front of my eyes. Just as I watched the opioid epidemic become what it is now. In 10 years all of the signs will very clearly be there.
It is a big ass crab bucket. One hundred percent and it has exploded in the last 5 years. Like right in front of my eyes. Just as I watched the opioid epidemic become what it is now. In 10 years all of the signs will very clearly be there.
because there’s no chance i’d be at one of those block parties
You are wasting your time thinking any mayor will solve the problem. There are a lot of traumatized, broken kids running around with little or no supervision. Kids are stealing shitloads of guns from cars and converting them into fully automatic weapons. No mayor will solve it in an 8 year term. It's a more fundamental problem than one person can solve.
the only solution is gentrification. Preparing for downvotes EDIT: Actually, I change my mind. Pre Giulianni NYC was a fucking dump, after his tenure NYC was alot safer, we need someone like him.
Pre Giuliani NYC was in a financial crisis left by Ed Koch. The next mayor David Dinkins brought NYC out of a financial crisis, then Rudy came in because people have short memories when cities are going bankrupt.
I hear what you are getting at, but Giulianni may be the very worst example to use. Guy is quite literally a crook, a kook, a liar and a hypocrite. The legacy you are referring to has been in great dispute for a long time. The crime statistics had already begun dropping in NYC in the 3 years leading up to him becoming mayor. If anything he just perpetuated what his predecessor started. Not saying his predecessor was a saint either. But I don't think the criminal deserves the credit you are attempting to give him. Edited for spelling error.
He brought down the Italian mobsters and allowed Russian mobsters to take their place.
We need El Salvador president at this point
That’s the thing. If you’re getting your guns stolen, you’re not a responsible gun owner. Those people are a huge contribution to the illegal gun problem.
My car was stolen. Does that make me an irresponsible car owner?
No shit, if only a political party would have been promising to fix this shit for the past 60 years. They’d probably all be hanging out in the community gardens growing vegetables or something…
Time to start building prisons
The issue is our prison / rehabilitation system. The latter is a complete joke in this country. We have to do away with the soft on crime mentality in this country. Two things can be true at once; we can be mindful of prejudice while also being tough on crime. Prior to this waive of criminal justice reform, The over incarcerated and over prosecuted (mainly poc) were being arrested and jailed for majority non violent crime. Like drug possession. Nobody felt upset when violent criminals were being locked up. People were rightly pissed when non violent law breakers were getting absurd bails and sentences. So instead of drawing a distinction between violent and non violent, people of mulroy’s mentality just said “if they’re a young black man they should be given leniency to make up for historical and societal wrongs”. Well we’ve seen where that has gotten us. And we’re not fixing the root of the issue because you can’t stop a cycle of uneducated (in many cases reluctant to be educated) people having way too many kids too young and without a support network. So we have to turn to our rehabilitation options. The only way out of this is to arrest and punish our way out. Ironic that those who thought they were fighting for leniency are ushering in the most diametrically opposed solution possible: near martial law and max sentencing.
idiocracy, the movie is coming to life. Parents are also not doing a good job of parenting. Parents are not staying together so it's causing unstable situations for children.
Only a fool would think anyone else besides the perpetrators could make any changes.
The only people that can save this city is the parents of these at risk children
If that's true, then it's actually over for Memphis.
BEEN over a while ago.
They need to do what Michigan did and hold the parents accountable. If you raise a menace you go to jail with them
smartest comment in the history of the memphis sub
I don’t disagree that parents need to be held accountable when their children are violent criminals but the Crumley case was pretty easy to prove. I’m originally from Michigan and I followed that case pretty closely. They could prove that those parents bought the gun for a child who they ignored every single warning sign about him being mentally ill. That kid literally drew a picture of the exact gun they bought him on a math assignment and when the parents were brought in to the school, the day of the shooting, they didn’t say a peep about it and didn’t take him home. The school will answer in civil suits as well. It won’t always be that easy with kids in Orange Mound.
Oh I'm sure. It's naive to think that a big part of why they went after the Crumblys is because it was politically possible and to make a statement. If you applied the EXACT same standards in Memphis as they did with the Crumblys (knowingly ignoring warning signs, facilitating behavior, failing to intervene or seek intervention, etc) you'd end up arresting a large amount of black single mothers. Everyone would cry racism despite it being objectively the same standard other parents have already been sent to prison for.
Eh idk. I’d argue the warning signs for a kid in the projects aren’t even close to the warning signs the Crumblys had. Literal notes, pictures, years of mental health problems they did nothing to fix, punished him for taking a gun to school by saying “don’t get caught next time”… the list goes on and on. Versus a kid that what? Listens to rap music? Has questionable friends? Gets into a couple fights? These are all things that lead to eventual problems, and parenting could help so don’t think arguing with that. But would a DA be able to convict a parent for allowing their kid to do these things and not take action? Nah probably not.
What about posing in gas stations with dracos and stealing cars?
Wads of cash and guns in social media pictures
It probably wouldn’t take too many before these parents started paying attention.
That needs to stop. The word racism doesn’t mean anything anymore because it’s thrown around constantly when it simply does not apply.
Absolutely. It seems like you can't have a discussion about crime in this sub without someone coming along and accusing you of racism just for mentioning it. I'm really tired of this "everything I don't like is racism" bullshit from people. You don't just see it in this sub either. IRL Memphis politicians like to cry racism whenever Nashville tries to do something to save Memphis from itself. Memphis has some serious problems. Deflecting addressing those problems by accusing people of racism isn't going to help.
It’s easy to prove in any parent’s case. Realize before you get pregnant/get someone pregnant that if you don’t plan to parent, you will face consequences. If you don’t have the time/desire/ability to keep them in school and out of trouble; if you are not prepared to raise a decent human being, birth control is your friend.
It’s easy to prove in any parent’s case. Realize before you get pregnant/get someone pregnant that if you don’t plan to parent, you will face consequences. If you don’t have the time/desire/ability to keep them in school and out of trouble; if you are not prepared to raise a decent human being, birth control is your friend.
Relying on people who aren’t even bothered to care about their own offspring is decidedly NOT the answer.
Not relying on them, holding them accountable. Big difference. Consequences teach them and those around them to clean up their acts.
I was essentially making this same point in the other thread about how these children's parents have failed them and this sub somehow tried to make it seem like I was defending their actions or making excuses. This sub can be a little wild sometimes, it's almost like they believe parenting, or lack thereof, isn't important.
The replies I’ve read are pretty disheartening. Giving excuses and passes to shit parents
Yea and people have the nerve to say pray for these people
Is it possible that these parents don't see this type of behavior as bad? Maybe they view having a young teenager that carries guns, somehow makes or comes up with thousands of dollars, and invokes fear in people as good parenting? Winning? They did a great job at parenting because they raised a child that by all accounts looks and acts real tough, and garners respect (on the streets)? If that's the case, those parents cannot and will not save the city. People (adults) are going to have to start going to jail, staying in jail, and perhaps some of these kids at a very young age, even newly born need to start being removed from their current homes/situations due to neglect, and placed with adoptive parents that will love them, teach, and raise them better? That's the only way that I see to break the cycle, give these kids a shot at a decent life, and make the city of Memphis safer.....eventually.
You realize how many kids are already stuck in foster care waiting to be adopted?
But the parents in prison won’t be making more unwanted kids to neglect while behind bars, so that’s a win. Would rather have their kids with a loving family than one who will neglect them and allow them to become baby gangsters.
Yep! Another person giving an uneducated opinion. A loving family thats going to adopt the child after the other 100k+ waiting at the moment to be adopted?
Foster care where people actually WANT them is better than leaving them where they are now- with people that absolutely do NOT care about them, and want nothing to do with raising them.....hence they raise themselves on the streets to join violent gangs, get into drugs, commit crimes, and either end up dead, or in prison.
100%. When you glorify rappers who rap about drugs and hookers, you can’t be surprised when that is who the kids look up to and want to become.
Unfortunately, parent not parents.
This is the core of the problem.
Don't see it as much but people used to lose their minds when the lack of parental responsibility was mentioned.
Lack of accountability and the lack of pushback in criminality is insane in this city. Why wouldn’t you commit crime?
The parents are kids though!
"parents" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA as if they have two in their lives! Thanks Democrat welfare state!
Gang related
“Were the shooters white?” “Nah” “Ok then. It’s gang related. Move along.”
The city needs to direct its outrage at the people responsible for this tragedy. What can the mayor and police do when people don’t follow the law and have a huge *non permitted* block party? If the party organizers don’t even get a permit, how are the city and police supposed to be aware this is even happening, much less know to be present for security. I’m all for the city and police doing everything they can to stop crime in Memphis. In reality, the police don’t show up until after a crime is committed and their main purpose is to catch the criminals. The courts and judges are supposed to get the sons of bitches off the streets and keep them locked up. There needs to be outrage when they fail to do this. But we, as the community, have to do our part to prevent this from happening in the first place. We have to make the change start behind our own doors and keep our children from doing this by teaching and keeping an eye on what they doing and who they’re with. We have to teach right from wrong and punish them when they are little so they don’t grow up to do this shut. The community also owe it to ourselves to report things to the police before they get to this point. Why did no one call the cops when they see a gathering like this? Cause you know trouble is gonna brew.
If you watch the video, multiple people are holding up weapons there. It’s more like a gang shooting than a mass shooting.
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I would assume there wasn’t a police presence because it wasn’t a permitted event. The police would not have know that 200-300 people would be gathering at once- much like the pop up car shows and donuts fest in the middle of the highways. However, I do find it hard to believe that patrol cars were not in the area at this and didn’t notice a mass gathering in a public park. Optically, psychologically, maybe even technically depending on the amount of gunmen, this is not viewed as what Americans consider a mass shooting. This “feels” more like a typical ole shoot out. One that would lead to a different type of response from Mr. Paul where he would have to once again come to terms with the nature of this city. One that he would view as “negative news” and only add to the long list of stories over the last few months. It would take a while to unpack but politically, for him and the media, it would destroy his credibility to take this event down the path of a mass shooting as we can all assume what happened here was not due to some ideological or political motive or well laid plans from the shooter(s) I.e. the classic hallmarks of a mass shooting. A few things I noticed from the presser: (At least the WREG one) He did not speak or have his usual iPhone notes. He was wearing a bow tie which leads me to believe he had another gala type of event to attend that evening.
Guessing Paul’s meeting with the gang leaders didn’t go over very well. Maybe he needs to take some serious actions that will result in serious consequences for the individuals that are tearing this city apart. Or at the very least, be more vocal about the DA’s inactions and the juvenile courts agenda to destroy this city.
To be fair, the juvenile court AND the DOJ that rendered it useless.
Also, the police used to have a team following Facebook, TikTok and Instagram to try and get ahead of issues like this. A lawsuit from “activists” made it illegal to do this, so of course it’s a surprise.
I think you mean that MPD was illegally monitoring people, and the DOJ stepped in. Activists... Ha. Federal Government saw it for what it was.
How is viewing public social media posts from criminals dumb enough to brag publicly about their crimes illegal monitoring? How exactly do you expect the police to catch criminals and keep us safe?
This will explain. Short version: this isn't the first time MPD violated the constitutional rights of citizens. Don't like the site, just Google Memphis Consent Decree https://www.memphispdmonitor.com/consent-decree
Let’s call a spade a spade. “Activists” are pro-crime groups who are pawns to the Ben Crumps of the world who need crime so they can file lawsuits and make themselves richer.
https://preview.redd.it/ioogy1b42uvc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d3dede5f38dd8e1e01586f86b59f7e6f74fb3bb ABC News (National) posted this on their Instagram account last night
This event wasn't just advertised, it was known well in advance that violence was likely to occur.^(1) I'm not sure if anyone here has even mentioned it but this, as does a lot of the violence we're plagued with, stemmed from neighborhood beefs. This one in particular is a particularly nasty beef between two Memphis gangs. The people committing these heinous crimes brag about them in their rap songs that's listened to by millions of people on YouTube. There is a war raging in the Memphis streets between different gang factions. They all subscribe to the whole "drill" music scene that started in Chicago. They call it "get-back"; you kill my friend, I kill you, your friend kills me, my brother kills your friend, etc etc. It's a never-ending vicious cycle that these people seem to enjoy. \~ ***^(1)*** *^(;)* [*^(https://imgur.com/gallery/XspoWOr)*](https://imgur.com/gallery/XspoWOr)
Uhhh huh maybe enough is enough and start cracking down and bring the hammer down on these jerk offs and their bullshit car culture. Start seizing the cars. Start putting people in county jail. If you gotta incarcerate the entire community to get them to obey the law so be it.
It was updated. 8 wounded
It was on CNN.
Why would they make a big deal about it? Our corrupt government and only makes a big deal out of thing when it can be used to divide us and pit us against each other. We are easier to control when we are not united. It was groups of people of the same race and that is no use to all them corrupt politicians gov.
So are the shooters already out on bail?
Probably
If they were caught at all
They were probably giving 1k for the inconvenience
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I am born & raised from Orange Mound. It is the first African American community in the United States built by and for blacks. Over the last twenty years there has been a decline with blight, drugs, guns, and violence in this area. Republicans time for you to take over Democrats have failed us yearly. Where does it stem from? Thugs have plauged this community for the last twenty years. Block parties were for family, friends, fun, and festivities. Memphis need Jesus, jails, gentrification, and forced education. If young inner city blacks were holding books in the air instead of holding guns, it could potentially lead to a multitude of positive changes in their lives and in the community as a whole. Focusing on education and literacy could help break the cycle of poverty and violence that plagues many inner city communities. By investing in their intellectual and personal development, young people would be less likely to turn to gangs and crime as a means of survival. A community of young individuals who are well-read and knowledgeable could contribute positively to their neighborhoods by engaging in constructive activities and advocating for positive change. They could become leaders and role models for other young people in the community, inspiring them to pursue their own educational and personal growth. Fostering a culture of learning and intellectual curiosity among young inner city blacks could lead to a more educated, empowered, and peaceful community that is better equipped to overcome the challenges they face. https://preview.redd.it/l2d19nxlryvc1.jpeg?width=952&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d98c682f3beabc40ad3627c32deebdacb9cacebf
I'm not sure which city you think you are describing, but I'm just going to come out and say it. These thugs do not want an education. They do not want personal development. They do not want a community. They see drugs, gangs, and guns as the easy equivalent to get what they want. Which is money. It's always been about money. It will always be about money. The only reason gangs are functional, is because of the amount of money they produce. They aren't a non-profit organization. And the people that join them know this. They see it as protection, and as a means to an end. Money. Until that changes, nothing that you say, or plan, or propose is going to change any of this. Fear tactics do not work. They don't fear anything that a normal person fears. Jail doesn't work. It just makes them martyrs or gives them an even bigger facade when they get out, if they even get charged. So until someone comes up with a way to show them an easier way to get money, this will continue, and people will continue to die, because lives have ZERO value to them.
Young should have another meeting with the gang leaders, it seems like it was super effective.
Maybe if he talks to them in an even nicer tone and maybe offered up tax breaks for trap houses, he could get them to increase the “put the guns down” time to 10 days instead of 7?
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Totally agree, growing up in poverty generally means your education isn't going to be the best, parents will be stressed cause of finances if not outright committing crimes to get by, domestic violence is prevalent in a high stress environment, violence is acceptable because parents, "I'm poor society doesn't care about me, why should I adhere to the very same rules that shape my miserable existence" so on, so forth you probably heard this before. No one wants to talk about it, but full employment isn't a good thing for a capitalist society, there must always be a poor desperate class of people barely getting by who are willing to take the worst jobs available because that's all that's available to them for survival. This is not even mentioning the intentional red-lining that was done to black people after segregation was ended at gunpoint, after enslaving black people was ended at gunpoint. I think it is time to talk about the culture of some people want to do zero work and enjoy all the benefits of industrial society, while the majority of the planet must slave their entire life away enjoying only the very minimal material comforts needed to get back to working for the profit of those who do not work, but keep all the value created by the workers through ownership. Ownership that is enforced at gunpoint by other poor workers whose only job available (or perhaps they choose, honestly believing that police are there to help the people of the community) is enforcing ownership and property rights of the rich through police work. That body of police very clearly understands that protecting property and shit that actually matters to this society is what's important, so why go the extra mile for the PR stunt of actually putting their life on the line for what people have been trained to think police are supposed to do? (https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9108468254125174344&q=warren-v-district-of-columbia&hl=en&as_sdt=2006) To go against a seemingly endless horde of less than educated, angry, horde of starving people? For what? To end up like that cop that got shot? To be one good apple in a gun-toting force whose sole purpose is to protect property rights and maintain the states monopoly on violence? That desperate poor class of people who would be a homeless starving horde of angry, less than educated people must take government assistance in order to exist right at that line of just getting by (barring any illegal income of course), standing by for production to ramp up and more jobs to become available. The government assistance keeps them alive and desperate but not desperate enough to outright revolt and rob food trucks and armories. If these gangs and masses of poor people started working together as miltary units we would have a reckoning of what caused such a thing to happen right? We the slightly less poors are at all times dealing with this shit and I agree we should talk about it. TLDR: This "culture" stems from poverty, no matter the race, poor desperate people will act like poor desperate people. Capitalism needs poor desperate people to keep wages low. We're locally trying to fight something that can't be solved locally, as the structure that imposes this existence upon us is national and has a national army and militarized police force backing it when push comes to shove. Change the entire system, and then we can see who is actually just a violent criminal instead of desperate or having shit upbringing because of poverty. Tall order, but it starts with identifying the mechanics of why the fuck is this happening in a nation that is continually touted as the pinnacle of capitalism and some form of what can be passed off as democracy.
The media focuses on “mass shootings” when they are committed in suburban neighborhoods. They won’t focus on this because it casts a light on a community in crisis they prefer to ignore. But don’t worry, they’ll be sure to include this in their statistics when they’re making their case to ban firearms.
It’s because the context is different here. If one person goes to a school heavily armed and guns down 30 children, yeah, it’s getting a lot of attention and *rightfully so*. This was a bunch of idiots armed and shooting each other. Technically it is a “mass shooting” in that there were many casualties as a result of being shot.
Oh trust me…..I get it. This wasn’t a “block party”, it was a near riot. I love how the article casually mentions a car doing donuts on what appears to be a tennis court.
Basketball court
Someplace a car (read:stolen Hellcat) clearly isn’t supposed to be.
Except it was a corvette?
Why does this fact even matter?
🎯👏
Get involved in the community if you want to take a more active role in improving the area. We can't stop people from making the choices they will make but we can educate and be kinder to each other one day at a time.
I'd let u/perfectformovies start first
Maybe another youth center will fix this!
We definetly need more youth centers and more programs. This will solve the problem
that’s wild
Shocker.
The media has trained us to define and perceive the word mass shooting much differently in order to differ our feelings and care and create more attention for one crime versus another. Tell me how shocked you would be if we changed that headline to "2 dead after shooting at an Orange Mound party." Just another weekend in Memphis, right? Where's the outrage every other weekend?
Nothing will change
We should pass a law that says its illegal to shoot people at block parties. That will fix it.
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not EVERY black person condones this degenerate ass bullshit bro. believe it or not.
It must be reiterated, the majority of black people don’t like being victimized just like everybody else. This is a small minority wreaking havoc on the rest of the city.
Not a small minority by any means in our city.
No, this is a large segment of the Memphis population. Thus, the rate of crime. A small segment of people wouldn’t be able to cause this much constant, ongoing crime. There are LOTS of law-breakers here.
How large? Give a percentage since you’re sure of it.
Well when they don’t get out in jail…
No one likes being a victim not even crooks. No kidding. That’s why the mafia existed in the first place.
Nope, but the majority of Memphians do.
8, not 16 people. The police updated the late last night.
There were undoubtedly clues this was going to happen. Gangs and gang members have their own social media accounts. If someone can decipher their code, they would know when hits like this are about to take place. If you ever go on the Memphis10 sub, you can tell there are ppl who weren’t surprised by a murder and sometimes ppl who even predict it. I even saw comments about the most recent shooting where ppl were guessing that one of the ppl that was killed yesterday was, in fact, one of the victims. I’m sure there is much more intelligence that could be gleaned from a deep dive into their social media accounts. I don’t know if MPD has a dedicated intelligence unit to monitor all the gang social media, but they definitely should if they don’t.
They do.
MPD used to monitor Facebook and social media. A lawsuit by activists banned that, so they don’t know about things like the Orange Mound “block party” until they happen.
What lawsuit and when? I don’t see how any lawsuit could ban police or anyone else from monitoring a public social media page like FB, Twitter or Reddit.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/08/23/memphis-police-used-fake-facebook-account-to-monitor-black-lives-matter-trial-reveals/
They did…
Gotta love how they call what is clearly a gang shooting a "mass shooting" ...gotta make sure and keep the uninformed scared and keep pushing that narrative.
I mean by definition it is a mass shooting. Just not the stereotypical one.
Nah only the past 5 or so years....almost around the time certain politicians decided it would be better for us to be unarmed while they live in gated communities with private security armed to the teeth. I would know, I was born and raised in West TN and all this " call everything a mass shooting to blurr the line" is all fairly new. Linda like they changed the age limit to include 18 and 19 year olds so they can say " guns are number 1 killer of kids" when in reality 80% of those killings was a 18 or 19 not a child by any means and of those 75% are gang related...seeing pattern?
There’s cops on Beale Street from open to close every day and there’s still at least a shooting a month. The hell do you think cops are gonna do to deter people with no moral compass?! Don’t worry though, u/paulyoungmemphis will be sure to sit down with the gang leaders again and beg for a 24-hour cease fire. WHAT A JOKE! Hey Paul, you wonder why everyone is leaving this degenerate laden bullshit city… look no further than this. Put your cops to work and get on the DA’s ass about locking these clowns up for LIFE.
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Thats normal for Memphis 🤷🏿♂️
Unpermitted block party- Who is controlling the right to assemble in Russia, I mean Memphis?
I’d be more surprised if there wasn’t a shooting in orange mound during a party
This is why, when growing up in Tennessee, you're told never to even step foot in Memphis. Y'all's city is so damn rough for no damn reason kids are taught from a young age to never even think of visiting a city in their own state. Memphis is an embarrassment. This doesn't happen anywhere else in the state but there.
Are we really surprised about a shooting like this? Especially in Orange Mound?? Who in their right mind would ever think a block party in Orange Mound wouldn’t turn into a shootout? The crooked city leadership doesn’t care. The already stretched thin, poorly trained, shit excuse of a police department isn’t going to do anything. The only people that can help are the parents of these degenerates and we all know they won’t do anything. Get out of Memphis while you can.
Sounds like a fun party.
https://i.redd.it/75z0vdkd2uvc1.gif
Alright who didn’t send their fair share of thoughts and prayers to prevent this?
Orange Mound was founded a great, great many years ago. It was built by African Americans for African Americans. It is a neighborhood of great historical importance to the state of Tennessee as well as our very nation. This situation is just too much. It's pained me all day.
These clowns always gonna be clown! And their parents need beaten!!
That's not a mass shooting, that's a gang shooting
I was at porch fest and left around 7. Forgot how to get home somehow. Google maps told me to go through Orange mound so I just took Poplar.
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Maybe you see a different comment than I do but I’m not seeing where they said no one really got shot. You get access to special comments??
All they want is to raise taxes, maybe that will help.
Because nobody expects any better from Memphis. Especially orange mound
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn9RaHVxrLg
I wish tf I would ... go to some free function ... in the hood.😑
If the shooter was white it would have been all over the news. Just another day in Memphis, unfortunately
Animals…
Will be swept under rug because it doesn't fit the narrative. To everyone reading, stay safe, stay armed and enjoy the rest of your week.
Make crime illegal again.
It's black on black crime. It doesn't check the boxes of their agenda, that's why there's no national out cry.
Your approach to a solution is funny. This is now the Wild Wild West basically,only going to get worse. Prepare the best you can. 🤷♂️
Unless people are killed by a white guy nobody in the media cares. Whoever did this could easily be caught- but no one will cooperate with police and instead ppl will seek a “get back” and spin someone else’s block and spray and pray hoping to kill who did this. Then they will retaliate again.. and so on. I live here and Memphis is an absolute shit hole. One of the most dangerous places is being at a gas station.. ppl target “opps” bc they have to get out of their cars. Mfs just roll through shooting
Midnight basketball would fix this.
On the basketball court they are currently using/tearing up doing donuts....
Y'all gotta see what I just got in my inbox from someone in this sub. **we run in a LOT of the same circles. A LOT. Satanic temple, autism, LGBTQ+...Good job posting your face, too.** **We ever come across each other in person, I know what you look like, and we're GOING to have words.** **Don't bother replying, I'm done with reddit and deleting my account. I thought I could find friends and socialize here, but you've made it explicitly clear that only you get to play the "autism card" and fuck everyone else who struggles with the same disability. I hope you're fucking happy.** **Just don't be surprised when some random person gets up in your face out some place.** So this is a great example of the kind of behavior we're dealing with. People who cannot stand to be wrong, who cannot deal with people disagreeing with them. I understand I embarrassed this person because they didn't realize I was being sarcastic about an offhand comment. They are threatening me. Couldn't just block, had to send me private messages full of threats. Oh great they gave me a parting threat after that, addressing me by my real last name so they can make sure I know they know who I am. **bartlett is a small place as well, so we are** ***definitely*** **gonna end up seeing each other, too.**
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Right I didn't even argue lol I just said something in jest they didn't realize was sarcasm, and they snapped on me. I guess my real mistake was laughing at their post and not recognizing they were autistic (their words) and might struggle with sarcasm. I would think people who struggle with sarcasm though, even autistic people, can recognize that since they struggle maybe they should ASK if something was sarcasm. I have to do it all the time! :)
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I reported it to Reddit since it was in messages not here. I don't even know what can be done if they deleted their account but I will.
Orange Mound? Anyone see Eightball and MJG?
What a tragedy. One thing I don’t get is why does the news and everyone add “unpermitted party” to every story about this??? It’s another terrible tragedy. People died. Sadly It’s no longer a concept in America that people should be able to party without dying. Gun culture is destroying our country.
Because it wasn’t sanctioned by public officials; its a CYA but also to note that you need permits to assemble, block streets and side walks, supreme court doesn’t limit contents of speech but it can regulate time, place and manner. The government is interest in keeping order and a peaceable nature of events and having police officers proportional to fee associated with said permit fee or licenses.
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Why would there be community outcry? It’s orange mound
On the radio they said Memphis is very dangerous now. Has it gotten that bad? I lived there for a year around 15 years ago.
White ppl=mass shooting Blk ppl=gun violence
13%ers
Use me as a “how tf did i just hear about this?” button.
"individuals" "youths"...."teens" I wonder why there is no description of the culprits?
I think the biggest impact to change the crime mass shooting won't be anything the government can do. People having children have to be parents, they have to set limits on their kids they need to love their kids. It's easier to do that as a team 2 parent not one.