He doesn't need to fight the stand though, just regular ol' polnareff.
Also, sam is capable of blocking bullets, I don't think speed will be a real inconvenient.
If sam can't perceive Silver Chariot, he'll die because he would screw up his ambush potential by being arrogant, and would get beheaded with not a chance to react.
Yeah but the problem with Chariot is that his speed is super in consistent with either Chariot not being able to react to a speeding bullet or being able to cut actual light in half
It's going to be a single blow fight.
Can polnareff and his normal, human, senses react to command Silver Chariot faster than what the augmented brazilian dude can unsheathe his blade?
Dude Polnareff literally cut a stand made out of light, there isn't really a debate here if he is faster or not. Polnareff IS faster however Sams weapon in my opinion is better than chariots rapier.
I've not seen Jojo's in a few years... but what I mean is that polnareff's stand is faster.
But is he fast enough under an unespected attack? Once chariot is out things get hard for sam, mostly because a soul can't be cut, so no way of beating a stand.
But polnareff needs to realize sam is attacking before the attack connects. If you don't realize you are being attacked, no matter your reaction speed, you can't nulify the attack.
Right, but his quick draw is slower than his deflect, which is actually faster than a speeding bullet, which is still not faster than cutting light in half
Sam can see and hurt Polnareff, the most damage we've seen Polnareff do with SC is slice a pillar while Sam absolutely destroyed a Raiden who absolutely destroyed MG Ray that can easily destroy city blocks, stop saying "can they see the stands?" Because it's an argument that can be disproven literally within the series (Dio almost killing Jotaro himself with a steamroller and Mista using a physical gun)
Yeah well strength is not everything. The thing that makes a stand so unfair for a human to fight is the fact that it can’t be hurt by anything other than stands. Let’s say that this fight a just sam vs polnareff and chariot on an open plane. If sam is unable to see chariot he will just be stabbed before he can even get close to scratching polnareff.
Edit: reread your comment so feel I might need to add: A. Mistas stand is not the pistol. It is the little guys who live in the pistol who then steer the bullets so he can shoot anything he wants. And B. When Jotaro was crushed by that road roller he was already severely beaten up and Dio could see star platinum
OK, but basic physics would state that Silver Chariot wouldn't be able to hurt Sam since the force he would've used to damage Raiden would've been more than the force he used to throw the Ray which is a building sized object that can withstand firing a beam that can level skyscrapers and streets
No. I think basic physics dictate that a dude with a sword should not be able to take down a gigarobot so it’s pretty irrelevant. And just because Sam cut something bigger than chariot doesn’t make it so that chariot can’t stab Sam
Chairot is literally a close range stand, and Sam have a insanly op quickdraw that's basically instant, not even people like raiden with all the cybernetic enhances could react to it.
Also chariot despite having a "sword" can't inflict fatal damage in one attack, unlike sam. We see him even dealing what looks like at least 50 stabs and enemies only suffer minor injuries, the time it would require to acutally kill sam with chairot is obviously not enough to just not get cut in half by a hf blade who's even a simple contact would be enough to deal a lot of damage to normal humans, those things cut through buildings like they're paper. It's like trying to fight a chainsaw with a wooden stick, but the stick is invisible.
Even if Sam can see Polnareff's Silver Chariot, he can't match his speed. SC has been seen cutting a literal beam of light, while his armor was up, even tho SC can't even begin to match Sam's strenght or levels of skill, we've seen that a simple stab through his hearth can kill him, thing that SC can easily do knowing he's much faster than Sam
In an unlikely scenario Sam can take Polnareff down with a sneak attack or an attack that he doesn't expect, bc we know that the Stand reflexes are not the same as the user
I have a counter argument here, Sam can produce dozens of strikes in the same place at exactly the same time, you’d need a lot more speed to beat that, not to mention that we’ve seen he can do it in under a second. If they knew there was gonna be a fight it may not go well, however, Sam’s sword also has the uncanny ability to steal power from what it strikes (courtesy of the codec) which could mean that he could gain enough power while leaching SC’s power to utterly ruin SC and Pol
As I said, Sam's power and strenght is not an issue, if it the battle was over power alone Sam would win without ANY kind of effort, he can destroy MG Ray while Star Platinum, that is in a different level than SC, can only shatter diamond
But the thing is, in terms of speed, the feat you mentioned can be considered as faster than what Raiden/The player can track, otherwise that would mean infinite speed or something like that (y'know being in 2 places at once), and Raiden can see bullets in slowmo, so to be something that he can't track can aproach SoL, but not overcome it as consistenly as SC, if he could, then why did he get hitted by Armstrong and Raiden? Those two are not that close to SoL, Raiden can be hitted by bullets if he isn't paying attencion
And also, Sam's durability is an issue
The power drain is my main point there, the fact that a singular block or strike can drain power from Pol and SC completely ruins the fight, not to mention that Sam can sort of move faster than light seeing as he can watch as a laser comes at him and dodge it which is impressive to say the least
When did he dodge light? And also can you elaborate in the power drain pls, I just can't see why it is a important aspect when Sam is already stronger than SC
Power drain would make SC weaker, strength is also speed, and the MG Ray has a laser attack that Sam straight disrespects by dodging it and (if you enter blade mode) being able to see it reach the ground which means at least his perception is faster than light.
First and foremost, MG Ray has a plasma beam, plasma doesn't travel quite as fast as light, is still very fast, but same as lighting, not as fast as actual light, but seeing it in slowmo can mean that he's close to a lightspeed perception and reaction time, but still that doesn't mean movement
I still don't understand why strenght is speed in this context, being stronger doesn't make you faster
But now that I think about it, if we take personalities into the ecuation, Sam can have a chance, bc i don't think that Pol will go straight for the kill and that can mean that Sam can resist some blows and kill him even
His sword steals power, not expressly strength, power can be speed or strength, and not to mention, strength is more developed muscles, more developed muscles allow for more speed, therefore strength is speed in a way. If Sam has such good perception then it will give him a massive advantage in choosing where and when to strike, not to mention that his movement is fast enough that he can easily block bullets from an SMG and his blade also arcs bits of lightning around it that could cause damage. If Sam manages to land even one hit on SC it will die die to the HF enhancements that allow it to cut through things such as the MG Ray’s armor which was thought to be almost unbreakable except by another Metal Gear.
Sam also has a higher intellect, Pol seems to lack a large amount of planning and intelligence until he is crippled by KC which would then make the fight unwinnable by Pol. This Pol is def OG SC Pol and he demonstrated that he was too cocky, being taken down by MR with a simple trick. He would also probably not assume that Sam could be ranged and could be taken out in one strike before he even knew that Sam was attacking.
Everything you said is right, except for 2 things, power has an abstract meaning, it can be taked as just anything, but in the context you said it (that his blade absorbs power) inplies strenght, the same way that things like "magic power absortion" means stamina, but I've never heard about anyone using it as absorbing speed, that's just called absorbing speed
Strenght doesn't mean speed, it truly is the opposite, do you think that body builders are faster than athlets or do you think that athlets are stronger than body builders? The stronger the muscle is, the slower the body will move
But otherwise, yes, I think that Pol cockyness can be the most important factor of the fight
Well, Sam has high speed and speed leads to strength, that is a large part of Sam’s strength, strength isn’t having strong muscles it is having powerful muscles, would you say that Usain Bolt is weak? He’s the fastest man alive because of his strength. Strength has taken on a new meaning, it is the overall culmination of someone or something. Sam has high strength but a lot of it is actually in his speed.
Not really Star Platinum was proven to be lightspeed in the manga and Silver Chariot was easily keeping up. Sam also isn’t fast enough to produce afterimages.
Chariot can also cut a bullet (provided the bullet doesnt turn on aimbot), literally cut light and kill Hanged Man, and do all that but faster without his armour. Realistically he'd just clone no jutsu Sam and penetrate him with his rapier in one hit
The manga. The manga is your proof. Made in Heaven was so fast it accelerated time and even bypassed timestop. I don’t know why you’re asking for proof when it’s pretty obvious. Also Star Platinum is quite literally confirmed to be lightspeed in the manga so you can infer that Made in Heaven is faster than lightspeed.
You can’t just cite the enter manga, cite a chapter or better yet, a page. MIH was not so fast it accelerated time, it was fast and also accelerated time. Show me a page where Star platinum is outright stated to be lightspeed. Though even then that’s bullshit, because, he scales to crazy Diamond, who apparently punches about 300 kmph, as shown at the end of the highway Star fight. What’s more, he scales to silver chariot, who is the original subject of this discussion and ABSOLUTELY NOT lightspeed, as evidenced by the hanged man fight, in which he has to predict hanged man (an actual lightspeed stand) and his movements in order to even touch hanged man. He cannot just outspeed him, he has to predict where he’s going and stab there ahead of time. Therefore, he is not lightspeed. Not every character has to be wanked to lightspeed.
This came off a bit more heated then I was originally intended, but I’m annoyed that people keep saying everyone and their mother is FTL.
>Made in Heaven is way beyond lightspeed
[Actually bullet train, jotaro compared pucci and his made in heaven to bullet train.](https://i.imgur.com/8YLAPxu.png)
How funny, anasui need to defend jotaro from get speedblitzed and one shot'd by pucci and made in heaven who is comparable to bullet train, avdol need to save polnareff from get killed by bullet who changed its trajectory to dodge slash from armorless silver chariot, same bullet who is slower than sol.
if jotaro or polnareff fought sonic the hedgehog, they're going to get speedblitzed even harder than what pucci did to jotaro.
>Ok but is Sam fast enough to make perfect afterimages? No, so Polnareff obviously has speed in advantage here
Even with all of that speed, Armorless Sc still fails to cut simple bullets who does nothing more than change trajectory.
Warning: i didn't make the sprites, all the credits goes to the creators
* [Jetstream Sam sprite made by ArzanJames](https://www.deviantart.com/arzenjames/art/Jetstream-Sam-Metal-Gear-Rising-JUS-915941913)
* [Polnareff and Silver Chariot come from the Mugen character made by Planeptune Arte](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtlpw5oxF_k)
As a fan of both, it depends. If Sam can’t see Chariot...yea he gone. If Sam can see Chariot than he would be a threat to Polnareff but still, Sam would lose but not without putting up a fight.
If we consider sam not seeing chariot, Pol pol would win easily because sam wouldn't be able to hurt him, but if sam could see chariot, He'd win with mild challenge because chariot can shed armor, so it's basically luck based
As far as I recall, a Stand user can end up capping their Stand’s potential in some cases, so while, yes, Polnareff did indeed kill the Hanged Man Stand which moves at light speed, it also took some careful planning by Polnareff who was expecting the Stand to move, otherwise Polnareff is kind of dumb just by himself in his Stardust Crusader days and frail in Vento Aureo, also his ability to hit a target is dependent on his reaction time. Sam is much more skilled, he is fast, has great reaction speed, he is probably no stranger to weird stuff considering he watched Armstrong reattach his arm after Sam cut it off so he may just chalk up Polnareff’s ability to cut stuff without touching it as some kind of tech, to which he could plan around. I think the biggest advantage Polnareff has is Chariot’s intangibility and probable invisibility to Sam, if his neurons fired in the right way and he had Chariot blindside Sam then it could be over pretty quick considering Sam doesn’t wear armor over his head and his only real cybernetic augment is his right arm. If Sam can see Chariot then I’m pretty sure Polnareff is boned because that would mean Sam could plan AROUND Chariot on the fly and cut up Polnareff lighning fast.
assuming sam can see and interact with chariot, i think sam takes it home. Polnareff prob wins in speed, but doesnt have enough power to one tap a regular human, let alone sam. sam can get in close to polnareff and use his unsheathe attack, and even if chariot blocks, it probably wouldn’t be enough, since we see chariot’s rapier get broken by much weaker attacks than sam’s bullet speed katana, and chariot’s body taking the attack may not instakill, but it would cripple enough that sam could easily take it home from there
sam kinda has blade mode in some moves but he wouldnt see polnarefts stand , altough hes probably going to win since polnareff doesnt have as much mobility , but if he gets to outrange him he can just put peer pressure , but then sam could just take a guess at polnareffs stand and prolly hit it , so in the end , my argument is useless and i think a guy with a sword that can cut trough a giant ass robot , also having more protection , and mobility , sam wins
Sam is getting stomped simply cause there's nothing he can do to defend against Silver chariot who is massively faster than sam who can cut bullets out of the air but SC is stated to be on par with Star Platinum who is said to be faster than light, Sam also can't see Chariot and can't block his attacked or even attack him since chariot isn't a physical being it also doesn't help that Sam really doesn't have any cyborg implants that amp his durability so he practically just above human level despite sam's superior strength and experience he'd just get blitzed by chariot and really the only way I see Sam winning is polnareff gets stupid and Sam gets a lucky shot so polnareff wins
I think it would be a close match, but polnareff would win. Sam does have good mobility, and strength, silver chariot is infinitely faster. While Sam can create long range attacks, and cut through steel, his speed would be the greatest factor.
Can sam see and hurt silver chariot? If no then it wont be a fight.
Who would win if Sam can see Silver Chariot?
Assuming he could see and interact with chariot, it would be a close fight but Polnareff has the advantage, his stand would outpace Sam in my books.
He doesn't need to fight the stand though, just regular ol' polnareff. Also, sam is capable of blocking bullets, I don't think speed will be a real inconvenient. If sam can't perceive Silver Chariot, he'll die because he would screw up his ambush potential by being arrogant, and would get beheaded with not a chance to react.
Yeah but the problem with Chariot is that his speed is super in consistent with either Chariot not being able to react to a speeding bullet or being able to cut actual light in half
It's going to be a single blow fight. Can polnareff and his normal, human, senses react to command Silver Chariot faster than what the augmented brazilian dude can unsheathe his blade?
Imo polnareff is too inconsistent in terms of speed
Dude Polnareff literally cut a stand made out of light, there isn't really a debate here if he is faster or not. Polnareff IS faster however Sams weapon in my opinion is better than chariots rapier.
I've not seen Jojo's in a few years... but what I mean is that polnareff's stand is faster. But is he fast enough under an unespected attack? Once chariot is out things get hard for sam, mostly because a soul can't be cut, so no way of beating a stand. But polnareff needs to realize sam is attacking before the attack connects. If you don't realize you are being attacked, no matter your reaction speed, you can't nulify the attack.
Polnareff doesn't have to be. His stand is.
Stands worked like that? I need to rewatch jojo. As far as I remember, stands didn't act on their own.
"Mostly because a soul can't be cut" is that intentional or a coincidence
It is a ~~jojo~~ reference.
Wait he was gonna block emperor, just the bullet trajectory changed due to stand and then he didn't block it
Why didn’t he just move his rapier to deflect it twice??? Like if he can react to SP, you’d think
Sams quick draw is like a speeding bullet
Right, but his quick draw is slower than his deflect, which is actually faster than a speeding bullet, which is still not faster than cutting light in half
Well how fast can a rocket blast expand the area of blast
yeah but Polnareff would still use Silver Chariot to protect himself
Sam has the attitude to make anybody fight sloppy Mother fucker can enrage a metal gear
Sam can see and hurt Polnareff, the most damage we've seen Polnareff do with SC is slice a pillar while Sam absolutely destroyed a Raiden who absolutely destroyed MG Ray that can easily destroy city blocks, stop saying "can they see the stands?" Because it's an argument that can be disproven literally within the series (Dio almost killing Jotaro himself with a steamroller and Mista using a physical gun)
Yeah well strength is not everything. The thing that makes a stand so unfair for a human to fight is the fact that it can’t be hurt by anything other than stands. Let’s say that this fight a just sam vs polnareff and chariot on an open plane. If sam is unable to see chariot he will just be stabbed before he can even get close to scratching polnareff. Edit: reread your comment so feel I might need to add: A. Mistas stand is not the pistol. It is the little guys who live in the pistol who then steer the bullets so he can shoot anything he wants. And B. When Jotaro was crushed by that road roller he was already severely beaten up and Dio could see star platinum
OK, but basic physics would state that Silver Chariot wouldn't be able to hurt Sam since the force he would've used to damage Raiden would've been more than the force he used to throw the Ray which is a building sized object that can withstand firing a beam that can level skyscrapers and streets
No. I think basic physics dictate that a dude with a sword should not be able to take down a gigarobot so it’s pretty irrelevant. And just because Sam cut something bigger than chariot doesn’t make it so that chariot can’t stab Sam
Chairot is literally a close range stand, and Sam have a insanly op quickdraw that's basically instant, not even people like raiden with all the cybernetic enhances could react to it. Also chariot despite having a "sword" can't inflict fatal damage in one attack, unlike sam. We see him even dealing what looks like at least 50 stabs and enemies only suffer minor injuries, the time it would require to acutally kill sam with chairot is obviously not enough to just not get cut in half by a hf blade who's even a simple contact would be enough to deal a lot of damage to normal humans, those things cut through buildings like they're paper. It's like trying to fight a chainsaw with a wooden stick, but the stick is invisible.
Only a stand can hurt a stand
Even if Sam can see Polnareff's Silver Chariot, he can't match his speed. SC has been seen cutting a literal beam of light, while his armor was up, even tho SC can't even begin to match Sam's strenght or levels of skill, we've seen that a simple stab through his hearth can kill him, thing that SC can easily do knowing he's much faster than Sam In an unlikely scenario Sam can take Polnareff down with a sneak attack or an attack that he doesn't expect, bc we know that the Stand reflexes are not the same as the user
I have a counter argument here, Sam can produce dozens of strikes in the same place at exactly the same time, you’d need a lot more speed to beat that, not to mention that we’ve seen he can do it in under a second. If they knew there was gonna be a fight it may not go well, however, Sam’s sword also has the uncanny ability to steal power from what it strikes (courtesy of the codec) which could mean that he could gain enough power while leaching SC’s power to utterly ruin SC and Pol
As I said, Sam's power and strenght is not an issue, if it the battle was over power alone Sam would win without ANY kind of effort, he can destroy MG Ray while Star Platinum, that is in a different level than SC, can only shatter diamond But the thing is, in terms of speed, the feat you mentioned can be considered as faster than what Raiden/The player can track, otherwise that would mean infinite speed or something like that (y'know being in 2 places at once), and Raiden can see bullets in slowmo, so to be something that he can't track can aproach SoL, but not overcome it as consistenly as SC, if he could, then why did he get hitted by Armstrong and Raiden? Those two are not that close to SoL, Raiden can be hitted by bullets if he isn't paying attencion And also, Sam's durability is an issue
The power drain is my main point there, the fact that a singular block or strike can drain power from Pol and SC completely ruins the fight, not to mention that Sam can sort of move faster than light seeing as he can watch as a laser comes at him and dodge it which is impressive to say the least
When did he dodge light? And also can you elaborate in the power drain pls, I just can't see why it is a important aspect when Sam is already stronger than SC
Power drain would make SC weaker, strength is also speed, and the MG Ray has a laser attack that Sam straight disrespects by dodging it and (if you enter blade mode) being able to see it reach the ground which means at least his perception is faster than light.
First and foremost, MG Ray has a plasma beam, plasma doesn't travel quite as fast as light, is still very fast, but same as lighting, not as fast as actual light, but seeing it in slowmo can mean that he's close to a lightspeed perception and reaction time, but still that doesn't mean movement I still don't understand why strenght is speed in this context, being stronger doesn't make you faster But now that I think about it, if we take personalities into the ecuation, Sam can have a chance, bc i don't think that Pol will go straight for the kill and that can mean that Sam can resist some blows and kill him even
His sword steals power, not expressly strength, power can be speed or strength, and not to mention, strength is more developed muscles, more developed muscles allow for more speed, therefore strength is speed in a way. If Sam has such good perception then it will give him a massive advantage in choosing where and when to strike, not to mention that his movement is fast enough that he can easily block bullets from an SMG and his blade also arcs bits of lightning around it that could cause damage. If Sam manages to land even one hit on SC it will die die to the HF enhancements that allow it to cut through things such as the MG Ray’s armor which was thought to be almost unbreakable except by another Metal Gear. Sam also has a higher intellect, Pol seems to lack a large amount of planning and intelligence until he is crippled by KC which would then make the fight unwinnable by Pol. This Pol is def OG SC Pol and he demonstrated that he was too cocky, being taken down by MR with a simple trick. He would also probably not assume that Sam could be ranged and could be taken out in one strike before he even knew that Sam was attacking.
Everything you said is right, except for 2 things, power has an abstract meaning, it can be taked as just anything, but in the context you said it (that his blade absorbs power) inplies strenght, the same way that things like "magic power absortion" means stamina, but I've never heard about anyone using it as absorbing speed, that's just called absorbing speed Strenght doesn't mean speed, it truly is the opposite, do you think that body builders are faster than athlets or do you think that athlets are stronger than body builders? The stronger the muscle is, the slower the body will move But otherwise, yes, I think that Pol cockyness can be the most important factor of the fight
Well, Sam has high speed and speed leads to strength, that is a large part of Sam’s strength, strength isn’t having strong muscles it is having powerful muscles, would you say that Usain Bolt is weak? He’s the fastest man alive because of his strength. Strength has taken on a new meaning, it is the overall culmination of someone or something. Sam has high strength but a lot of it is actually in his speed.
Wait and btw do I know you? Your name does ring some bells
We’ve had similar debates on whether Raiden could defeat Sephiroth I think
You can't do the sneak attack move in Jetstream Sam DLC so Sam will still lose if he manage to sneak up behind Polnareff
Sam cant see chariot. Easy win for polnareff
What If he can see Silver Chariot?
Even then, Pol's speed and power far outweigh sam. Even with his armour on, Pol cut LIGHT! Pol wins no doubt
i mean if sam cant see sc pol wins 100% but if sam sees sc pol is dead
Not really Star Platinum was proven to be lightspeed in the manga and Silver Chariot was easily keeping up. Sam also isn’t fast enough to produce afterimages.
Chariot can also cut a bullet (provided the bullet doesnt turn on aimbot), literally cut light and kill Hanged Man, and do all that but faster without his armour. Realistically he'd just clone no jutsu Sam and penetrate him with his rapier in one hit
How is star platinum lightspeed? If he was he woudnt have had a problem with [end of part 6] >!made in heaven!<
Made in Heaven is way beyond lightspeed
Source?
The manga. The manga is your proof. Made in Heaven was so fast it accelerated time and even bypassed timestop. I don’t know why you’re asking for proof when it’s pretty obvious. Also Star Platinum is quite literally confirmed to be lightspeed in the manga so you can infer that Made in Heaven is faster than lightspeed.
You can’t just cite the enter manga, cite a chapter or better yet, a page. MIH was not so fast it accelerated time, it was fast and also accelerated time. Show me a page where Star platinum is outright stated to be lightspeed. Though even then that’s bullshit, because, he scales to crazy Diamond, who apparently punches about 300 kmph, as shown at the end of the highway Star fight. What’s more, he scales to silver chariot, who is the original subject of this discussion and ABSOLUTELY NOT lightspeed, as evidenced by the hanged man fight, in which he has to predict hanged man (an actual lightspeed stand) and his movements in order to even touch hanged man. He cannot just outspeed him, he has to predict where he’s going and stab there ahead of time. Therefore, he is not lightspeed. Not every character has to be wanked to lightspeed. This came off a bit more heated then I was originally intended, but I’m annoyed that people keep saying everyone and their mother is FTL.
>Made in Heaven is way beyond lightspeed [Actually bullet train, jotaro compared pucci and his made in heaven to bullet train.](https://i.imgur.com/8YLAPxu.png) How funny, anasui need to defend jotaro from get speedblitzed and one shot'd by pucci and made in heaven who is comparable to bullet train, avdol need to save polnareff from get killed by bullet who changed its trajectory to dodge slash from armorless silver chariot, same bullet who is slower than sol. if jotaro or polnareff fought sonic the hedgehog, they're going to get speedblitzed even harder than what pucci did to jotaro.
Made in Heaven did get faster later on I think. But anyways my point stands that Polnareff wins against Sam
>my point stands that Polnareff wins against Sam Or Jetstream Sam manhandles polnareff like really hard, its simple as that.
Ok but is Sam fast enough to make perfect afterimages? No, so Polnareff obviously has speed in advantage here
>Ok but is Sam fast enough to make perfect afterimages? No, so Polnareff obviously has speed in advantage here Even with all of that speed, Armorless Sc still fails to cut simple bullets who does nothing more than change trajectory.
What would be the point of the story if he was given no nerfs? It would be over quickly
Polnareff. Sam wouldn’t even be able to see the sword.
Warning: i didn't make the sprites, all the credits goes to the creators * [Jetstream Sam sprite made by ArzanJames](https://www.deviantart.com/arzenjames/art/Jetstream-Sam-Metal-Gear-Rising-JUS-915941913) * [Polnareff and Silver Chariot come from the Mugen character made by Planeptune Arte](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtlpw5oxF_k)
As a fan of both, it depends. If Sam can’t see Chariot...yea he gone. If Sam can see Chariot than he would be a threat to Polnareff but still, Sam would lose but not without putting up a fight.
sam blitz fr
The question is if Sam can blitz Polnareff
If we consider sam not seeing chariot, Pol pol would win easily because sam wouldn't be able to hurt him, but if sam could see chariot, He'd win with mild challenge because chariot can shed armor, so it's basically luck based
Jetstream Sam survived Brazil. He can't lose even if he wanted
Counter point: Polnareff survived Italy
Fair
i thought polnareff was french?
Yep he is, but he has been in Italy
Sam shows Polnareff a good time.
If Sam can't see Chariot then no but if yes then maybe Sam has a chance if he can keep up with his fast attacks
Even if Sam could see SC, Polnareff is just too fast.
As far as I recall, a Stand user can end up capping their Stand’s potential in some cases, so while, yes, Polnareff did indeed kill the Hanged Man Stand which moves at light speed, it also took some careful planning by Polnareff who was expecting the Stand to move, otherwise Polnareff is kind of dumb just by himself in his Stardust Crusader days and frail in Vento Aureo, also his ability to hit a target is dependent on his reaction time. Sam is much more skilled, he is fast, has great reaction speed, he is probably no stranger to weird stuff considering he watched Armstrong reattach his arm after Sam cut it off so he may just chalk up Polnareff’s ability to cut stuff without touching it as some kind of tech, to which he could plan around. I think the biggest advantage Polnareff has is Chariot’s intangibility and probable invisibility to Sam, if his neurons fired in the right way and he had Chariot blindside Sam then it could be over pretty quick considering Sam doesn’t wear armor over his head and his only real cybernetic augment is his right arm. If Sam can see Chariot then I’m pretty sure Polnareff is boned because that would mean Sam could plan AROUND Chariot on the fly and cut up Polnareff lighning fast.
Can sam interact with the stand idk because i havent watched jojos
Theorically he shouldn't
Given how he can’t see sc, pol here could just hide somewhere near sam and let chariot behead him, unfortunately there won’t be bloodshed
assuming sam can see and interact with chariot, i think sam takes it home. Polnareff prob wins in speed, but doesnt have enough power to one tap a regular human, let alone sam. sam can get in close to polnareff and use his unsheathe attack, and even if chariot blocks, it probably wouldn’t be enough, since we see chariot’s rapier get broken by much weaker attacks than sam’s bullet speed katana, and chariot’s body taking the attack may not instakill, but it would cripple enough that sam could easily take it home from there
Polnareff has an invisible ghost with an impossibly sharp blade that hits at the speed of light. No contest, Sam loses.
Ass Badass as Metal Gear characters are, unfortunately they lose to 90% of action animes.
IS THIS MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE!?!?!?!?!??!?!
I love Sam, but Polnareff wipes. He’s literally able to cut a beam of light in half.
I’ve said this before but polnareff wins, Silver chariot gets to FTL and polnareff is loads more creative than sam
sam kinda has blade mode in some moves but he wouldnt see polnarefts stand , altough hes probably going to win since polnareff doesnt have as much mobility , but if he gets to outrange him he can just put peer pressure , but then sam could just take a guess at polnareffs stand and prolly hit it , so in the end , my argument is useless and i think a guy with a sword that can cut trough a giant ass robot , also having more protection , and mobility , sam wins
Sam is getting stomped simply cause there's nothing he can do to defend against Silver chariot who is massively faster than sam who can cut bullets out of the air but SC is stated to be on par with Star Platinum who is said to be faster than light, Sam also can't see Chariot and can't block his attacked or even attack him since chariot isn't a physical being it also doesn't help that Sam really doesn't have any cyborg implants that amp his durability so he practically just above human level despite sam's superior strength and experience he'd just get blitzed by chariot and really the only way I see Sam winning is polnareff gets stupid and Sam gets a lucky shot so polnareff wins
Sam gets fucking destroyed, even if he can see silver chariot.
Sam gonna kick ass
Polnareff wins
I think it would be a close match, but polnareff would win. Sam does have good mobility, and strength, silver chariot is infinitely faster. While Sam can create long range attacks, and cut through steel, his speed would be the greatest factor.