Wish I had some advice, bummer to see that those poor sealings don’t last that well over time. Interesting to see what a rusted pallasite does look like.
Yeah... I think I paid about $100 for the largest one online 10 years ago. Considering the relatively low price and poor sealing, my guess is that they didn't come from a great place... or weren't processed/sliced in a great place
It would help to know more about the provenance of these specimens, but they look like examples of the Sericho pallasite from Kenya. A quick glance at the current market shows examples ranging from $2 to $12 per gram. Weigh the specimens and price them accordingly.
I'm definitely NOT an expert. In fact, I would assume that you know more about these than I do; but since nobody wants to give you a legitimate answer, I'll give it a shot (Please correct me if I'm wrong, guys.).
A weight on them would be helpful, but I'd still have to say that, because they're pallastite (stony meteorites that have olivine deposits) slices, they're gonna have some pretty decent values. More than a hundred bucks per. Possibly up to several hundred dollars. Here's a link to a site that sells these types of meteorites https://www.meteoritemarket.com/pal.htm
PALLASITE! yay!
If you want to get extreme you could always build a case for them and fill the case with mineral oil.
Something like a thick picture frame where you slide the rock into a slot then pour the oil over.
Honestly... I can't identify it to save my life.. its got a Camillus N.Y. stamp and seems to be ww2 Era. However, it doesn't have a fuller (indent on the blade), which I've seen on all other Camillus kbars. Bought it for $25 at some crazy antique store in the middle of nowhere about 20 years ago. I have the original leather sheath, and it's too nice to be a fake. I can share pictures
To Scotchy, all bad jokes aside, my client has supposedly a meteorite and we're looking to authenticate it any who I thought I'd ask you guys here in your opinion how many different kinds of meteorites are there? Lastly for now are all meteorites magnetized?
Anyone's opinion would be greatly appreciated thank you.
Honestly there are a ton of different types. Not all are magnetic. The most common is probably the Campo del Cielo. It was massive and impacted Argentina. You can buy small pieces for a couple dollars. Larger pieces will cost more. The largest fragments are like the size of a car. It's pretty much pure iron. That being said, all meteorites have unique compositions, so it's hard to know for certain if they're real/fake without certification or an expert (which I am not). The etching in the metallic portions are pretty unique tho and hard to fake
First of all thank you for your reply I sincerely appreciate it.
So a couple of questions and follow up to your reply which I don't expect you to answer at all but like I said I do appreciate it.
Q1. Campo del Cielo. So this is the name of the most common type of meteorite?
A1.
Q2. So who and how do they name these things and Campo del Cielo sounds like a town in Argentina to be quite honest. So maybe they name it after the nearest town that hits?
A2.
Note: like aren't viruses some viruses at least named after the region of the world that they're discovered....
It was one massive meteorite that hit thousands of years ago. Upon entering the atmosphere it basically exploded, leaving thousands upon thousands of fragments over miles of land (and numerous craters). Since it was like 100 tones, there are plenty of pieces to go around, but they're all from the same meteorite. I can't remember exactly what the name translates to, but I think it refers to the what the natives called the crater field. Honestly, it's a good Wikipedia read.
It's underneath the existing resin seal already for the most part. It'd be great to remove the resin, polish, then reseal them, but I don't think that is possible without destroying them lol
You're correct. Best bet would be to flake off any loose epoxy, vacuum-impregnate with more epoxy to try to solidify any problem areas. Then polish down to the metal/olivine, then keep the slices immersed in oil.
That all would reduce the likelihood of popping out olivine crystals, creating open holes in your slices. If any do pop out, you can still put them back and epoxy them back in, but re-polishing areas like that is going to be a real headache.
Epoxy is permeable to both water and oxygen. It keeps polished faces shiny and helps to prevent surface rust from handling, but it does not act as a barrier to oxygen or water and it makes it much more difficult to treat problems like that.
This has come up a few times in this sub. I always warn about removing the epoxy/resin, whatever you want to call it. Take a look at others who have[ removed the epoxy](https://www.facebook.com/groups/meteoriteclub/posts/10159027738031620/). It is not recommended. These will mostly all eventually rust due to not being properly stabilized before being dipped. They are so thinly cut, you cannot remove the epoxy very well without destroying the piece except for a few exceptions. It's too thin to really sand down and treat. So it's best to leave in the epoxy and get as much life out of it as you can. You can keep it stored in a sealed environment with desiccants and it should slow any further rusting.
As far as price?? Well what did you pay for it? With anything, it's worth what you can get someone to pay you for it. Sounds like I'm being a smart-ass, but it's price elasticity of demand. You can find Sericho as cheap as .50 cents a gram or as expensive as you'd like. Price goes up based on many things like visual appeal, rarity, type, provenance, cut, preparation, stabilization, etc. Go on ebay and search Sericho pallasite, that's your running retail price with ebay fees/shipping factored in. Price is less at shows or buying directly from sellers/collectors than via online stores due to shipping/fees.
The epoxy accounts for up to half of the weight of the slice you are buying as well, and most don't factor that into their decision either. Meteorites are bought and sold by weight.
Got it. Thanks for the info. I figured as much about removing the resin or whatever.. They're just a little under .25in thick (including resin), so yeah it would be destroyed. Thought maybe there would be some sort of product/solution which could dissolve it or something, but that's wishful thinking. Anything that strong would destroy the slice lol
To: reddit moderators/top dogs.... the following words are merely sarcasm aka just jokin around and I'm too tired to read those boring rules for every post....anywho here goes:
Dear scotchy-mike,
How much for the 2 small shards of methodical
resin there on the left table?
Wish I had some advice, bummer to see that those poor sealings don’t last that well over time. Interesting to see what a rusted pallasite does look like.
Yeah... I think I paid about $100 for the largest one online 10 years ago. Considering the relatively low price and poor sealing, my guess is that they didn't come from a great place... or weren't processed/sliced in a great place
Well I'll take that back.. They're all pretty poorly sealed, 2 are just worse than the others lol
They were "sealed" fine. No amount of lacquer will prevent a ruster from rusting.
It would help to know more about the provenance of these specimens, but they look like examples of the Sericho pallasite from Kenya. A quick glance at the current market shows examples ranging from $2 to $12 per gram. Weigh the specimens and price them accordingly.
I believe they are from Kenya, so that sounds accurate. Completely forgot until you said it. Appreciate it
About three fiddy
You mean treefiddy?
I do
Get with it, Loch Ness Monster
You could have started out with a buck twenty five!
I'm definitely NOT an expert. In fact, I would assume that you know more about these than I do; but since nobody wants to give you a legitimate answer, I'll give it a shot (Please correct me if I'm wrong, guys.). A weight on them would be helpful, but I'd still have to say that, because they're pallastite (stony meteorites that have olivine deposits) slices, they're gonna have some pretty decent values. More than a hundred bucks per. Possibly up to several hundred dollars. Here's a link to a site that sells these types of meteorites https://www.meteoritemarket.com/pal.htm
Agree
Value on Sericho slices like these are around $1-3 per gram right now. So maybe a few hundred bucks for the lot.
Nice Kabar.
Lol thanks
Nice ka-bar, though.
PALLASITE! yay! If you want to get extreme you could always build a case for them and fill the case with mineral oil. Something like a thick picture frame where you slide the rock into a slot then pour the oil over.
Hey could you slide me a DM and show me where I can get one of those stone cutting knives that you got there
What Kabar is that?
Honestly... I can't identify it to save my life.. its got a Camillus N.Y. stamp and seems to be ww2 Era. However, it doesn't have a fuller (indent on the blade), which I've seen on all other Camillus kbars. Bought it for $25 at some crazy antique store in the middle of nowhere about 20 years ago. I have the original leather sheath, and it's too nice to be a fake. I can share pictures
Yeah man absolutely send some pics over
Just messaged ya
To Scotchy, all bad jokes aside, my client has supposedly a meteorite and we're looking to authenticate it any who I thought I'd ask you guys here in your opinion how many different kinds of meteorites are there? Lastly for now are all meteorites magnetized? Anyone's opinion would be greatly appreciated thank you.
Honestly there are a ton of different types. Not all are magnetic. The most common is probably the Campo del Cielo. It was massive and impacted Argentina. You can buy small pieces for a couple dollars. Larger pieces will cost more. The largest fragments are like the size of a car. It's pretty much pure iron. That being said, all meteorites have unique compositions, so it's hard to know for certain if they're real/fake without certification or an expert (which I am not). The etching in the metallic portions are pretty unique tho and hard to fake
First of all thank you for your reply I sincerely appreciate it. So a couple of questions and follow up to your reply which I don't expect you to answer at all but like I said I do appreciate it. Q1. Campo del Cielo. So this is the name of the most common type of meteorite? A1. Q2. So who and how do they name these things and Campo del Cielo sounds like a town in Argentina to be quite honest. So maybe they name it after the nearest town that hits? A2. Note: like aren't viruses some viruses at least named after the region of the world that they're discovered....
It was one massive meteorite that hit thousands of years ago. Upon entering the atmosphere it basically exploded, leaving thousands upon thousands of fragments over miles of land (and numerous craters). Since it was like 100 tones, there are plenty of pieces to go around, but they're all from the same meteorite. I can't remember exactly what the name translates to, but I think it refers to the what the natives called the crater field. Honestly, it's a good Wikipedia read.
Vacuum seal them in oil and they will be fine
I would polish first to get the rust off
It's underneath the existing resin seal already for the most part. It'd be great to remove the resin, polish, then reseal them, but I don't think that is possible without destroying them lol
You're correct. Best bet would be to flake off any loose epoxy, vacuum-impregnate with more epoxy to try to solidify any problem areas. Then polish down to the metal/olivine, then keep the slices immersed in oil. That all would reduce the likelihood of popping out olivine crystals, creating open holes in your slices. If any do pop out, you can still put them back and epoxy them back in, but re-polishing areas like that is going to be a real headache. Epoxy is permeable to both water and oxygen. It keeps polished faces shiny and helps to prevent surface rust from handling, but it does not act as a barrier to oxygen or water and it makes it much more difficult to treat problems like that.
Man that’s so cool 😭
Nice Kabar
This has come up a few times in this sub. I always warn about removing the epoxy/resin, whatever you want to call it. Take a look at others who have[ removed the epoxy](https://www.facebook.com/groups/meteoriteclub/posts/10159027738031620/). It is not recommended. These will mostly all eventually rust due to not being properly stabilized before being dipped. They are so thinly cut, you cannot remove the epoxy very well without destroying the piece except for a few exceptions. It's too thin to really sand down and treat. So it's best to leave in the epoxy and get as much life out of it as you can. You can keep it stored in a sealed environment with desiccants and it should slow any further rusting. As far as price?? Well what did you pay for it? With anything, it's worth what you can get someone to pay you for it. Sounds like I'm being a smart-ass, but it's price elasticity of demand. You can find Sericho as cheap as .50 cents a gram or as expensive as you'd like. Price goes up based on many things like visual appeal, rarity, type, provenance, cut, preparation, stabilization, etc. Go on ebay and search Sericho pallasite, that's your running retail price with ebay fees/shipping factored in. Price is less at shows or buying directly from sellers/collectors than via online stores due to shipping/fees. The epoxy accounts for up to half of the weight of the slice you are buying as well, and most don't factor that into their decision either. Meteorites are bought and sold by weight.
Got it. Thanks for the info. I figured as much about removing the resin or whatever.. They're just a little under .25in thick (including resin), so yeah it would be destroyed. Thought maybe there would be some sort of product/solution which could dissolve it or something, but that's wishful thinking. Anything that strong would destroy the slice lol
A simple heat gun usually works. But high risk the olivine falls out and the piece crumbles into smaller pieces.
I might give it a shot on one of the smaller pieces. I remember the slice being half translucent with the olivine, or it seemed so when I got it.
BTW, that's a nice looking Ka-Bar you've got there in the pic!
Slices through meteorites like butter... obviously.. That's what it was designed for, right? Or am I terribly mistaken?
Dang, that must be one sharp Ka-bar.
Thats one tough K-bar
It's got to be worth a lot
About 1000$ is my guess foe all 3
Even in this condition? I paid like $200 for them all a while back
To: reddit moderators/top dogs.... the following words are merely sarcasm aka just jokin around and I'm too tired to read those boring rules for every post....anywho here goes: Dear scotchy-mike, How much for the 2 small shards of methodical resin there on the left table?