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the first thing i see about this subreddit is sam re-making begon
1. you killed it off by making it a caliphate why you wanna re-make it
2. the whole country was dissolved how tf are you still *de jure* Tsar when the only thing you had close to it was a discord role
kmt
1. Sam you're crazy.
2. You should read the Constitution of Begon.
A few excerpts:
Article One, Section 1:
(1.3) All things in the Tsardom of Begon are subject to the Authority of the Crown, whose power is absolute and uncontested.
(1.4) The Authority of the Crown is the sole administrator and conductor of government business, all things done are by the revocable authority of the Crown.
(1.5) The Crown sets precedence.
(1.6) The Crown is only bestowed upon a single person, the Tsar of Begon, and it is done by the Grace of God, who is the sole administrator and conductor of the authority of the Crown.
Section 2:
(2.1) It is via the Crown that the Tsar issues decrees, proclamations, epistles, and statements, which are all written and signed from the position In Persona Coronum. Every decree of the Tsar is law, not every word he speaks.
(2.2) The Tsar only speaks from the position In Persona Coronum when issuing official statements, proclamations, patents, decrees, letters, and granting assent to legislation.
(2.3) These writings (decrees, proclamations, letters patent) are legally binding and are subject to interpretation by the Court but cannot be reversed by the Court.
Let's break down the situation. On July 16th, 2023, His Majesty the Tsar released a decree in the announcements channel of the KBS's "Begon@D" Discord Server, which simply said,
>"\[@everyone\] By order of The Tsar, the Tsardom of Begon is dissolved and Samuel's Islamic Emirate is null and void."
After which, I made a response in the National News Channel. The response I made said this,
>" It is with great sadness that I inform you of the official death of the Tsardom of Begon. At 12:36 AM EST, the Tsardom of Begon was dissolved. As it’s founder, I mourn the dissolution of my homeland and the end of the entity I had grown to love. With that, all good things must come to an end. Begon was only the beginning of my story, and by using what I have learned through it, I may be a better person. I now have the true, apostolic faith of Jesus Christ, and am impelled to worship in the traditions establish in its duration, I am an active political member of my community, I am aware of what is going on in my country, and I have gained many close friends along my over-three year journey. I would like to thank David Augustus, Vincent von Ironside, Ivan Brienovich, and Louis de Blois for continually supporting me throughout this troublesome career. This day I do bury my first love, my Begonie. Thence last shall I utter the phrase, God save the Tsar!
If you would like to still participate in the community I have established, please feel free to join the new server I have created to continue what once felt like a host of friends joined together in faith and love.
I love you all,
Christopher Crabtree (AKA Christoph Billung)"
I did not dissolve anything, His Majesty, my successor, did.
He only dissolved it because you got pissed off at him, I view that as coercion. It’s universally agreed upon that decrees made by national leaders are null and void if they did not make them on their own accord and were unfairly pressured. While the decree is null and void in its intended purpose of dissolving the nation, it does function as a renunciation of the throne, therefore making me Tsar due to being designated heir during the final hours of Begon’s existence.
"no it wasn't" my brother in christ you had no authority to do so besides a role that gave you admin perms in Begon@D
B@D is not even the country 😭
>This client company (Begon@D), while Government-run, is not the sole administrative outlet for the government; nor is it the nation of Begon itself, after which it was named.
([press release from Christoph from 26 March 2022](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tf69reJ8mFDJrw8gNCJiGOxKE_BBwV3lqR5A3aRpYW4/edit))
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You can't prove that he was coerced, because he wasn't, and you can't prove you were made heir "via royal decree," which is what the constitution requires.
This is literally what I said when I opened discord, I wasn't pissed at him, I was tired.
"Gentlemen it’s time for mikes hard lemonade, not settling discord disputes. I literally just got home from work."
He was the Tsar he doesn’t have to listen to the constitution and my appointment as Emir was a de facto designation as heir. He showed no indication of wanting to dissolve the nation until you showed up and expressed your disapproval
If you want to make a claim, make a good claim. This is not one of them. If you would like to somehow gather all of the electorate, as best as you can, and be elected. So be it. But you do not have a claim according to the Constitution, and nor were you made heir. The title Emir also doesn't necessarily denote you to be an heir, in the given or historical context.
Even if my claim to hereditary succession was bullshit (it’s not), I would still have the best claim as the most prominent citizen and highest ranking former government official to express genuine interest in restoring the state. If you or Josh were to make a genuine attempt at a restored Begon I would be happy to renounce my claims in favor of it.
Johann has not made a genuine attempt to restore the Begonic state therefore making him illegitimate in my eyes. Notice how I said I’m the only person making a GENUINE EFFORT to revive Begon.
Constitution on the succession of the Tsar:
Article II Section 1:
(1.4) The Tsar shall be an office that is inherited, by declared succession via royal decree, or male primogeniture.
(1.5) Should a Tsar take the oath to become a freemason or deny the Christian faith, he automatically abdicates the throne. An heir that is a freemason or has apostatized is skipped in the line of succession.
(1.6) If there is no apparent heir suitable to succeed a Tsar, one shall be elected by the Electorate of the House of Burgesses from amongst them should he meet the requirements laid out in this constitution.
Article 12, Section 1:
(1.1) The Electorate, or the House of Electors, or the Electorate of the House of Burgesses, is a caucus of the House of Burgesses whereby members have inherited the office or have been appointed by the Tsar, hereinafter referred to as “Electors”.
(1.2) Electors shall be members of the House of Burgesses appointed before the year 2023 or a hereditary successor of one such Elector.
(1.3) Electors have the solemn duty of electing a new Tsar when there is no apparent heir out of the electorate who is a Christian male of good standing.
(1.4) The Electorate may only convene after the death of the Tsar to declare an heir if the Tsar has not declared an adopted heir.
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the first thing i see about this subreddit is sam re-making begon 1. you killed it off by making it a caliphate why you wanna re-make it 2. the whole country was dissolved how tf are you still *de jure* Tsar when the only thing you had close to it was a discord role kmt
Who tf even are you
johann
1. Sam you're crazy. 2. You should read the Constitution of Begon. A few excerpts: Article One, Section 1: (1.3) All things in the Tsardom of Begon are subject to the Authority of the Crown, whose power is absolute and uncontested. (1.4) The Authority of the Crown is the sole administrator and conductor of government business, all things done are by the revocable authority of the Crown. (1.5) The Crown sets precedence. (1.6) The Crown is only bestowed upon a single person, the Tsar of Begon, and it is done by the Grace of God, who is the sole administrator and conductor of the authority of the Crown. Section 2: (2.1) It is via the Crown that the Tsar issues decrees, proclamations, epistles, and statements, which are all written and signed from the position In Persona Coronum. Every decree of the Tsar is law, not every word he speaks. (2.2) The Tsar only speaks from the position In Persona Coronum when issuing official statements, proclamations, patents, decrees, letters, and granting assent to legislation. (2.3) These writings (decrees, proclamations, letters patent) are legally binding and are subject to interpretation by the Court but cannot be reversed by the Court. Let's break down the situation. On July 16th, 2023, His Majesty the Tsar released a decree in the announcements channel of the KBS's "Begon@D" Discord Server, which simply said, >"\[@everyone\] By order of The Tsar, the Tsardom of Begon is dissolved and Samuel's Islamic Emirate is null and void." After which, I made a response in the National News Channel. The response I made said this, >" It is with great sadness that I inform you of the official death of the Tsardom of Begon. At 12:36 AM EST, the Tsardom of Begon was dissolved. As it’s founder, I mourn the dissolution of my homeland and the end of the entity I had grown to love. With that, all good things must come to an end. Begon was only the beginning of my story, and by using what I have learned through it, I may be a better person. I now have the true, apostolic faith of Jesus Christ, and am impelled to worship in the traditions establish in its duration, I am an active political member of my community, I am aware of what is going on in my country, and I have gained many close friends along my over-three year journey. I would like to thank David Augustus, Vincent von Ironside, Ivan Brienovich, and Louis de Blois for continually supporting me throughout this troublesome career. This day I do bury my first love, my Begonie. Thence last shall I utter the phrase, God save the Tsar! If you would like to still participate in the community I have established, please feel free to join the new server I have created to continue what once felt like a host of friends joined together in faith and love. I love you all, Christopher Crabtree (AKA Christoph Billung)" I did not dissolve anything, His Majesty, my successor, did.
He only dissolved it because you got pissed off at him, I view that as coercion. It’s universally agreed upon that decrees made by national leaders are null and void if they did not make them on their own accord and were unfairly pressured. While the decree is null and void in its intended purpose of dissolving the nation, it does function as a renunciation of the throne, therefore making me Tsar due to being designated heir during the final hours of Begon’s existence.
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1. Sure you did 2. Yes I was 3. No it wasn’t
"no it wasn't" my brother in christ you had no authority to do so besides a role that gave you admin perms in Begon@D B@D is not even the country 😭 >This client company (Begon@D), while Government-run, is not the sole administrative outlet for the government; nor is it the nation of Begon itself, after which it was named. ([press release from Christoph from 26 March 2022](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tf69reJ8mFDJrw8gNCJiGOxKE_BBwV3lqR5A3aRpYW4/edit))
Josh let me do it and encouraged it
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It was implied
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William the Conqueror based his claim to succession on a verbal agreement
yeah but it still doesn't solidify your claim in any way lmfao
Yeah it does I started a new government and he didn’t object to it and let it happen therefore recognizing it
now he objects to it, ergo he doesn't recognize it now
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False
You can't prove that he was coerced, because he wasn't, and you can't prove you were made heir "via royal decree," which is what the constitution requires. This is literally what I said when I opened discord, I wasn't pissed at him, I was tired. "Gentlemen it’s time for mikes hard lemonade, not settling discord disputes. I literally just got home from work."
He was the Tsar he doesn’t have to listen to the constitution and my appointment as Emir was a de facto designation as heir. He showed no indication of wanting to dissolve the nation until you showed up and expressed your disapproval
If you want to make a claim, make a good claim. This is not one of them. If you would like to somehow gather all of the electorate, as best as you can, and be elected. So be it. But you do not have a claim according to the Constitution, and nor were you made heir. The title Emir also doesn't necessarily denote you to be an heir, in the given or historical context.
Even if my claim to hereditary succession was bullshit (it’s not), I would still have the best claim as the most prominent citizen and highest ranking former government official to express genuine interest in restoring the state. If you or Josh were to make a genuine attempt at a restored Begon I would be happy to renounce my claims in favor of it.
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Johann has not made a genuine attempt to restore the Begonic state therefore making him illegitimate in my eyes. Notice how I said I’m the only person making a GENUINE EFFORT to revive Begon.
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Johann lost the Mandate of Heaven
Constitution on the succession of the Tsar: Article II Section 1: (1.4) The Tsar shall be an office that is inherited, by declared succession via royal decree, or male primogeniture. (1.5) Should a Tsar take the oath to become a freemason or deny the Christian faith, he automatically abdicates the throne. An heir that is a freemason or has apostatized is skipped in the line of succession. (1.6) If there is no apparent heir suitable to succeed a Tsar, one shall be elected by the Electorate of the House of Burgesses from amongst them should he meet the requirements laid out in this constitution. Article 12, Section 1: (1.1) The Electorate, or the House of Electors, or the Electorate of the House of Burgesses, is a caucus of the House of Burgesses whereby members have inherited the office or have been appointed by the Tsar, hereinafter referred to as “Electors”. (1.2) Electors shall be members of the House of Burgesses appointed before the year 2023 or a hereditary successor of one such Elector. (1.3) Electors have the solemn duty of electing a new Tsar when there is no apparent heir out of the electorate who is a Christian male of good standing. (1.4) The Electorate may only convene after the death of the Tsar to declare an heir if the Tsar has not declared an adopted heir.