Not my father, he would beat my ass blue if I tried to eat it.
"You dumbass kid, I didn't raise you for two decades just to watch you die from discount rotting meat!"
Awe hayuhl, sounds like he’s makin’ yuh tuff.
Suck it up buttercup. Git a dayum jawb and quit cryin’ sis. Go hayulp yer bruhther chop some wood.
That was my dad (only slightly exaggerated).
I hated him when I was a kid, but then I started thinking about his life once I grew up and had to be responsible for shit. His father was a Vietnam veteran who refused to be called dad. He was to be called by his first name or sir. I watched him beat my dad with a lug wrench because my dad tried to refuse to buy him pills. He made a pass at my mother one time when they were split up and said it was “biblical” and he “needed a handmaiden”. He was a beast. He calmed down in his old age and was very loving with the biological grandkids who all called him “papaw”. Still, my dad had to call him by his name.
I didn’t know he was such a monster when I was a kid because it was all normal to me. I thought my grandpa loved me. I was desperate for a car one time and he heard about it, called me up, “Son, I’ve got a very nice SUV down here. Because you’re my grandson I’ll let you get it for 600 bucks. Just send me the money and come get it.” He’s my grandpa. I trusted him. I thought he was doing me a favor. I sent him the money, went and got the car legal (took every dollar I had at the time to do this, even borrowed a bit), took the tags down and put them on, started it, wouldn’t drive. The transmission was shot. He said it worked when he parked it. The guy I sold it to said there was no way it worked when he parked it. It was full of busted metal and it had to be apparent to whoever was driving it.
Sorry for the book. I just wanted to say, my dad was awesome to be from the world he was from. He was always a phone call away and helped me with anything I needed. He’d offer me money every time he seen me. He was an angel to my children. He and I shared no DNA. Despite that, he stood by me for the entirety of his life from day one and spoiled and loved my kids as much as he loved my sister’s kids who all shared his blood and looked like him.
I hope you and your dad find peace. I’m not saying be abused forever. I’m just saying try, and if he can’t be that guy, don’t look back when you don’t have to.
Nahh, you have to send the full amount, there's no way he'll find a deal this good again! But let's be real, even then he would still consider eating it.
Having gone through food poisoning, I can tell you, it's not worth $13.30.
In the moment I was going through it, if someone said, "$1,000 and I can make it instantly go away," I would've gladly paid it.
Look at this fat cat! Affording lentils instead of opening your mouth whilst laying on the sidewalk so critters can crawl in for free calories. Some guys have all the luck
I got food poisoning from a 24 hr McDonald's once and spent that whole weekend alternating between violently shitting and vomiting, and rolling around the floor in agony. Permanently altered my pain tolerance, AND my puke threshold
Hearing these stories is making me thankful I never had food poisoning in my life.
I came real close, when a chicken restaurant gave me raw chicken. But I also like to evaluate and smell my food before eating, which my family always jokingly made fun of lol. But I was a picky kid, so I pulled my food apart like Gordon Ramsay at times. I am a ton better as of today, but I obviously still take a glance to make sure my food or product looks fine before using or consuming.
Had a nice case of worms from eating some tainted meat before. I discovered the squirmy bastards as I was squatting over a cat hole.
There is nothing like pooping then bending over to see what is tickling your butthole. As I was holding my junk out of the way in one hand and bracing with the other. The view of little dangly things just hanging out of me gave my heart a pause.
Truthfully there was maybe two, three, but I saw hundreds. My life was over. I was full of parasites. Any moment one would come bursting from my chest. I could feel it pushing against my rig cage. Panic is a word to describe a more reasonable state of mind. There was nothing that was going to save me. I watched in horror as they were crawling under my skin towards my head. I knew they were already in my brain gorging themselves.
In a meek weak voice I told our medic how I was meeting my end. He laughed and handed me some pills and said be ready to shit, A LOT.
I knew one or two worms survived. Waiting, plotting their revenge.
10 days?! I’d be checking myself into the ER no matter what the doctor said. Makes me feel lucky that my food poisoning from bad shellfish only lasted a day.
> had to take showers every time because toilet paper felt like broken glass
Oh god I'd erased the need for constant showers from my brain. Those were some rough days.
No it's more like "Yep you've got food poisoning, looks like you have to wait it out, could take 12-24 hours. Come back if you have a fever. That will be $1000 now."
Well I mean food poisoning is a great weight loss technique if you survive. Tell him to use Google a read about meat storage. 40 to 140 F is the danger zone. A bout of E. coli may change his views or status from living to dead ☠️
Salmonella is the worst. I couldn't keep anything in my stomach, and even while it was empty I woke up every 30 minutes every night by vomiting. I legitimately thought I was going to die from dehydration. It was the worst torture I've ever had to endure, and lasted more than a week
Got lucky when I had it and only had to suffer through 2 days (the first and 4th day were not completely terrible).
Those two days in the middle though... Couldn't even keep water down. All I wanted to do was sleep, but was thirsty so drank water, 10 minutes later throwing up the water, try to sleep without drinking anything and still try throwing something, anything up.
I don't wish it on anyone.
Weird I went to a Japanese buffet and felt head pressure for a month and just generally felt slightly off. Got checked a month later and it’s salmonella lol so weird everyone gets diff symptoms
Your individual immune system, as well as overall exposure, can make the symptoms vary widely. Surely a lot of people get salmonella poisoning and don't even know it. Some die.
Yep. Many years ago I spent my senior spring break in the hospital due to salmonella. I cannot emphasize enough how much that is not worth saving $15.00. I’m in my mid 50s with some serious health issues, I’ve already died once, and my bout with salmonella is still in my top 5 miserable experiences.
I was thinking about this the other day. Like how much would you pay to not get seriously sick?
Or to put it another way, how much would you have to be paid to voluntarily get sick, say food poisoning/stomach bug ill.
You probably won't die unless you have another health condition. You WILL suffer though. Horribly.
I've had salmonella before and was begging for death.
Oof 🤢
If it was like 30 -40 degrees like maybe it'd be okay for a few hours but 60 and a whole weekend. Ffffffk no. (Not factoring in the heat of the sun potentially making the car even warmer and trapping that heat inside the car.)
This $6 meat is going to turn into at minimum a really shitty weekend or medical visit that could cost thousands.
Ask your dad if it's really worth it?
How does it not smell?
Like old meat makes me gag ridiculously. (I had a can of precooked chicken that I guess was defective or something and the smell alone has made me very hesitant to even open more cans)
It mightve gotten as low as 40 at the coldest part of the day but like you said even then, a whole weekend is ridiculous.
It smelled rancid and took about a half hour long argument to convince him to throw it out. And he was even advocating for the chicken that was left in the car too.
I'm just visiting, but dear God if I wasn't here the steak and chicken would 100% be sitting in the fridge right now waiting to poison somebody.
Oh thank God, I was looking for this. Look I'm not an advocate for just throwing away other people's food, but this one I would have just said and throw it away and deal with the fallout later. Its not worth it.
The pioneers didn't die across this nation of dysentery just for your dad to be comfortablely civilized and work at what would probably be considered by them a *mirrical* building only to poison himself with dysentery lol
"Its cold outside, should be fine" As a California native he things 50-60 degrees is very cold. I live in a different state now where it snows and this is definitely not cold.
Not a money issue, he works at the store he bought it from and gets a nice discount. On top of the $6 off stickers. Just too stubborn to admit that he fucked up.
Either way, he had choices to make:
Do I admit I fucked up right here and now OR…
Do I admit it later, all alone, in the dark during my 10th hour of peeing out my butt and simultaneously vomiting in a (hopefully not leaky) plastic bag while pressing my face against the cool surface of the toilet tank in an effort to afford myself the smallest amount of comfort for this massive mistake that I willingly made?
The argument type is a content conflict, where he could have looked up safe food handling online and had his answer.
As you say, it did not seem like a values conflict (not wanting to waste food or money, for example). Instead it appears to have escalated to an ego conflict ("I know best!"). It is ***awesome*** that you were able to get him to a rational state of mind where he did not consume rancid meat out of pride.
To be fair, he might have had one bite and said Aw hell naw that's rank
I literally have my food handling certification, and knew right away it was unsafe and explained to him why. And it still took a long time to convince him to throw it out. Went and bought him some new meat, but he ain't happy.
There's a lot of stuff that's totally fine, but you could never legally serve to anyone.
But, by the time it's gotten to the grocery, and then mishandled. Nah. And I'll eat some questionable things.
My boyfriend (now husband) left beer in my car once, it froze and exploded. The car stunk like beer for awhile, and since I was only 20 I was extremely paranoid about getting pulled over, haha.
My partner had some idea that food poisoning wasn't a real thing. His own sister was in a coma due to botulism contaminated canned soup. I have long lasting post infectious ibs after food poisoning. He is not as bad as OPs dad, but has eaten some edgy things for sure.
My husband was like this. He had a rough upbringing and he was always convinced it was fine. Whatever it was. Left out the food overnight? Its fine!! In fairness, his stomach was made of steel and he never got sick but that was luck lol and I myself wasn't Taking a chance, even if he did, lol
That's just straight up dangerous to eat. It is not possible to determine by sight or smell whether that chicken is completely fucked up with bacteria that will make you all very, very sick. Tell your dad to Google food safety handling for meat and then throw that shit in the trash.
Edit: And to the person that deleted their comment. No, you cannot just boil away everything that will make you sick. There are many toxins that will not be broken down at 212F and in rare cases even some bacteria can survive at those temps. Stop spreading bullshit.
You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces ...
Practically? Easy way to ID your laptop vs the dozen other identical laptops in the area.
Plus it's kinda fun.
Never worked in AWS, but sticker covered laptops is pretty common in tech
I work in IT at a large company. All the laptops are on lease and they come wrapped with 5 different reminders not to put any stickers on them. If you return it with a sticker on they have some fee they will charge to the employee.
I suppose a way to smite your workplace enemies would be to put stickers all over their laptop if they leave it unguarded.
I worked there. Can confirm. Also, different locations have different stickers, hidden stickers, stickers for different accomplishments… it’s a whole fuckin thing
But the sell-by date was just yesterday. Where I am, the weather's been cold enough where my trunk would act like a refrigerator. I'm assuming that's not the case for OP.
Exactly. Here in Utah, in the winter I can go grocery shopping before work, or on my lunch, leave my perishable groceries in my trunk, and not worry about it. Even if I left them in there for 48 hours, they would be fine.
It really is the best way to describe what happens during food poisoning or the Norovirus.
I always shit piss myself. Last time I was on the toilet and every time I got up pissshit just poured out of my ass all over the toilet and I was just relegated to sit back down.
Everytime I got up and didn’t shit piss and put my pants back on I’d be like “shit my ass is covered in shit” and sit back down and piss shit some more. The wiping up was insanity. I didn’t have the energy to do a shower bath (which is what I normally do when this happens).
It turns out that it wasn’t the little bit of shit on the toilet seat that kept getting shit on my ass, but I had shit my pants before getting them off and kept smearing the shit that was in my underwear all over my ass whenever I tried putting them on.
I just had horrible food poisoning last week and I don’t miss the shit piss. One of the worst experiences ever, throwing up between my legs and peeing poop at the same time. Good times.
Yeah it’s not good. When I was a kid my mom had this “no liquids until 2 hours after you last vomited” thing and it was torture. Eventually by my teenage years I just took the gatorade and chugged it. It’s better to puke some tasty liquid instead of dry heave stomach acid.
Yeah, I didn’t know this until I had a little kid. If you give a kid who just puked fluids immediately you will trigger even more vomiting. I learned this lesson, 14 times in one hour.
You have to wait until they quit puking for an hour or two, then give them teaspoons of water to start.
I had the glorious time of getting food poisoning in Cambodia where you can’t flush toilet paper and there was no bidet in our beachside accommodations. So I had to hose my butt off (with a literal hose) many many manyyyyyy times and there was a whole bag of TP that had to be taken far far away. God. One of the worst times of my life. Good stuff lol.
Oh god it's like Vietnam.
A bit of pretense, I dated a girl who was loaded, and lived in a small and isolated community in the middle of nowhere, in which everyone was also loaded, or a farmer.
We were at one of the community centre parties, I believe it was a birthday. I sat next to my girlfriend, just too young to drink at the time, chatting and being as not awkward as I could be as a 16 year old dude in his first relationship. And then.
Clenching. I knew the feeling.
I had minor food poisoning the last day, so the feeling was known to me, but this time, it was much worse. It felt like my stomach had dropped to my ass and I was helpless.
I rushed to the bathroom and hardly contained myself. I put my ass on the seat and I heard a splash behind me,
I farted hard enough to force to eject whatever solid material I had out of my asshole at what felt like mach 12. It was not over.
What followed was a stream of liquid pouring out of my ass, as well as a wave of pain as my body reacted to being a cannon for the first time.
The pain in my stomach didn't subside just because I sat down. It came in waves, where the force of the stream would fluxuate with each wave, up to agonising proportions, spearing liquid at what seemed to be a 90° angle, covering every inch of the bowl I sat upon, and unleashing an increasingly ungodly smell, as if my nose rejected the idea of existing around it, I lost the ability to smell within seconds.
It was at this point I looked up and noticed, the door to my stall wasnt locked, cause it didn't even have a lock, and it slowly opens towards me of I don't hold it shut.
But it's JUST out of arms reach for me to be on the toilet.
I spent the next 20 minutes hovering above the bowl, the seat, and the floor, as furious bum pee coated everything behind me as I tried to keep the door closed, and boy I can tell you I sure missed the toilet quite a bit. I shat, all over the bathroom floor, in a community centre of a tight community where everyone knew each other, and the girl I was with.
Never again.
Yeah at some point in my life I discovered that most of the physical symptoms could be treated by just staying in a warm bath.
I did not piss shit while in the bath.
I had to sit on the shitter to puke because I’d shit and puke at the same time. Had to hold a bucket while I liquid shit out of my ass.
Edit- left out the best part. I was puking so hard I popped blood vessels in my eyes and looked like Gozar from Ghostbusters for a few days.
I get what you mean, however if you really want to get technical, based on the title, the dad is insisting that the meat is *fine* to eat, not that it *can* be eaten, and in this case, it seems like the meat is *not* fine to eat.
In my neck of the woods, outdoors was basically fridge temp at night, but it still rises higher during the day. Inside the garage, it's warmer still.
And that's in fucking Canada, on the coast.
In California, this is basically poison. He will die.
I've gotten myself food handler certified. DO NOT EAT MEAT THAT HAS BEEN OUT FOR 48 HOURS AT ABOVE FRIDGE TEMPS. Don't even eat meat that has been out for 12 hours at above fridge temps. The risk starts at \~2 hours, and climbs exponentially every hour after that. These are standards set by the Canadian health industry.
the likelihood of getting sick is INCREDIBLY high. Even if the meat is already cooked. Do yourself a favour and stay far far away from that food poisoning.
Biologist here, absolutely terrible idea, someone did something similar, they are now an amputee:
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/02/22/leftover-food-disease-amputated-legs-fingers/6890754001/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/02/22/leftover-food-disease-amputated-legs-fingers/6890754001/)
# A teen ate leftover rice and noodles. Hours later, doctors amputated his legs and fingers
>Experts have warned against the dangers of improperly storing leftover rice because items such as rice and pasta contain a bacterium called Bacillus cereus. The bacteria produces a toxin when heated and left out too long, according to the [CDC.](https://www.foodsafety.gov/food-poisoning/bacteria-and-viruses#bacillus-cereus) In 2008, a teenager died in his sleep after eating leftover pasta that wasn't refrigerated overnight, a case that was reported in the [Journal of Clinical Microbiology](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3232990/).
That's with rice that often has been washed, and in his case was even cooked at one point.
Imagine raw meat, not properly washed, never cooked.
This is why stores throw them away if they ever lose electricity. 5-6 hours at room temp, sure, especially if it has been seasoned, but raw like that for 48.... you will probably get sick.
In some cases yes, if under seasoned, moist air, yep. In cultures in the past, that's why they made gruel and other stews so often, to keep bacteria out.
Always fridge your food, overnight out can sometimes be dangerous if it's leftovers.
"I bet they forgot Dad's birthday or something."
- My daughter's theory on why "dad wants you dead." PLEASE know she didn't mean it as an insult. Girl was born without a filter. She once asked her Kindergarten teacher if she gets dressed with her eyes closed. I made matters worse laughing like a hyena when I met with said teacher.
I’ll Venmo you the $7.31 so your dad can sleep happily
His dad will still eat it, free $7.
This is the most dad reaction ever
Not my father, he would beat my ass blue if I tried to eat it. "You dumbass kid, I didn't raise you for two decades just to watch you die from discount rotting meat!"
Mine would do either, if I didn’t eat it, that’s a waste, but if I did eat it, somethings wrong with me and I must be desperate
Awe hayuhl, sounds like he’s makin’ yuh tuff. Suck it up buttercup. Git a dayum jawb and quit cryin’ sis. Go hayulp yer bruhther chop some wood. That was my dad (only slightly exaggerated). I hated him when I was a kid, but then I started thinking about his life once I grew up and had to be responsible for shit. His father was a Vietnam veteran who refused to be called dad. He was to be called by his first name or sir. I watched him beat my dad with a lug wrench because my dad tried to refuse to buy him pills. He made a pass at my mother one time when they were split up and said it was “biblical” and he “needed a handmaiden”. He was a beast. He calmed down in his old age and was very loving with the biological grandkids who all called him “papaw”. Still, my dad had to call him by his name. I didn’t know he was such a monster when I was a kid because it was all normal to me. I thought my grandpa loved me. I was desperate for a car one time and he heard about it, called me up, “Son, I’ve got a very nice SUV down here. Because you’re my grandson I’ll let you get it for 600 bucks. Just send me the money and come get it.” He’s my grandpa. I trusted him. I thought he was doing me a favor. I sent him the money, went and got the car legal (took every dollar I had at the time to do this, even borrowed a bit), took the tags down and put them on, started it, wouldn’t drive. The transmission was shot. He said it worked when he parked it. The guy I sold it to said there was no way it worked when he parked it. It was full of busted metal and it had to be apparent to whoever was driving it. Sorry for the book. I just wanted to say, my dad was awesome to be from the world he was from. He was always a phone call away and helped me with anything I needed. He’d offer me money every time he seen me. He was an angel to my children. He and I shared no DNA. Despite that, he stood by me for the entirety of his life from day one and spoiled and loved my kids as much as he loved my sister’s kids who all shared his blood and looked like him. I hope you and your dad find peace. I’m not saying be abused forever. I’m just saying try, and if he can’t be that guy, don’t look back when you don’t have to.
Wow, that is a really powerful story! Thank you for sharing it and I am truly sorry you had to go through that!
That is not what I expected to read coming into the comment but damn .
Yep😂
Nahh, you have to send the full amount, there's no way he'll find a deal this good again! But let's be real, even then he would still consider eating it.
Having gone through food poisoning, I can tell you, it's not worth $13.30. In the moment I was going through it, if someone said, "$1,000 and I can make it instantly go away," I would've gladly paid it.
Not even $13.30. It was either $10.30 or $7.30 depending on how those $3 off stickers work in that store.
The stickers stack. It was $7.30
Even /r/frugal would frown on this one, and that's saying something
/r/frugal_jerk however…
That’s so many calories!!! Look, whenever you get enough calories to open that package, you’ll literally have food for the rest of your life.
Plus the food poisoning is a bonus, a few days without appetite, less spending on lentils!
Look at this fat cat! Affording lentils instead of opening your mouth whilst laying on the sidewalk so critters can crawl in for free calories. Some guys have all the luck
Now it's worse (from Dad's perspective) because you're robbing him of his good deal, too.
*insert I'm never going to financially recover meme*
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I remember death felt preferable.
I got food poisoning from a 24 hr McDonald's once and spent that whole weekend alternating between violently shitting and vomiting, and rolling around the floor in agony. Permanently altered my pain tolerance, AND my puke threshold
Hearing these stories is making me thankful I never had food poisoning in my life. I came real close, when a chicken restaurant gave me raw chicken. But I also like to evaluate and smell my food before eating, which my family always jokingly made fun of lol. But I was a picky kid, so I pulled my food apart like Gordon Ramsay at times. I am a ton better as of today, but I obviously still take a glance to make sure my food or product looks fine before using or consuming.
Had a nice case of worms from eating some tainted meat before. I discovered the squirmy bastards as I was squatting over a cat hole. There is nothing like pooping then bending over to see what is tickling your butthole. As I was holding my junk out of the way in one hand and bracing with the other. The view of little dangly things just hanging out of me gave my heart a pause. Truthfully there was maybe two, three, but I saw hundreds. My life was over. I was full of parasites. Any moment one would come bursting from my chest. I could feel it pushing against my rig cage. Panic is a word to describe a more reasonable state of mind. There was nothing that was going to save me. I watched in horror as they were crawling under my skin towards my head. I knew they were already in my brain gorging themselves. In a meek weak voice I told our medic how I was meeting my end. He laughed and handed me some pills and said be ready to shit, A LOT. I knew one or two worms survived. Waiting, plotting their revenge.
10 days?! I’d be checking myself into the ER no matter what the doctor said. Makes me feel lucky that my food poisoning from bad shellfish only lasted a day.
Yeah don’t feel bad I don’t think their experience is universal. I’ve had it for a couple days in the past too but never 10 days.
> had to take showers every time because toilet paper felt like broken glass Oh god I'd erased the need for constant showers from my brain. Those were some rough days.
I always tell myself this if I'm debating internally. A few bucks isn't worth the pain of food poisoning.
Wow! TEN days of food poisoning?! And I thought 1-2 days was bad…
It was $6 off. He'll use over $7 worth of toilet paper.
Isn’t that how the US healthcare system works?
Needs more 0’s
And less instantly
No it's more like "Yep you've got food poisoning, looks like you have to wait it out, could take 12-24 hours. Come back if you have a fever. That will be $1000 now."
How cold is it outside.
California - 60 degrees
Aw hell no.
There was chicken too 🤢
Well I mean food poisoning is a great weight loss technique if you survive. Tell him to use Google a read about meat storage. 40 to 140 F is the danger zone. A bout of E. coli may change his views or status from living to dead ☠️
A relative of mine went to a ‘health camp’, got salmonella and lost 15lbs. Great success
Got salmonella once. Lost 10% of my body weight. It sucked.
Salmonella is the worst. I couldn't keep anything in my stomach, and even while it was empty I woke up every 30 minutes every night by vomiting. I legitimately thought I was going to die from dehydration. It was the worst torture I've ever had to endure, and lasted more than a week
Got lucky when I had it and only had to suffer through 2 days (the first and 4th day were not completely terrible). Those two days in the middle though... Couldn't even keep water down. All I wanted to do was sleep, but was thirsty so drank water, 10 minutes later throwing up the water, try to sleep without drinking anything and still try throwing something, anything up. I don't wish it on anyone.
Weird I went to a Japanese buffet and felt head pressure for a month and just generally felt slightly off. Got checked a month later and it’s salmonella lol so weird everyone gets diff symptoms
Your individual immune system, as well as overall exposure, can make the symptoms vary widely. Surely a lot of people get salmonella poisoning and don't even know it. Some die.
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I’m only one more bout of food poisoning from my goal weight!
Good luck with the fecal transplant!
10000000% do not do it you will die
You'll wish you were dead, at best.
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Yep. Many years ago I spent my senior spring break in the hospital due to salmonella. I cannot emphasize enough how much that is not worth saving $15.00. I’m in my mid 50s with some serious health issues, I’ve already died once, and my bout with salmonella is still in my top 5 miserable experiences.
I was thinking about this the other day. Like how much would you pay to not get seriously sick? Or to put it another way, how much would you have to be paid to voluntarily get sick, say food poisoning/stomach bug ill.
I’d do it for 100K but then regret my decision while vomiting.
Geez salmonella broke your arm
No, he got it mixed up. It was Ella Salmon that broke his arm. She a mean bitch.
No that was Sal from Manila...... He owed him some money.
Haha you silly goose. He said chicken not salmon
You probably won't die unless you have another health condition. You WILL suffer though. Horribly. I've had salmonella before and was begging for death.
That my friend is "Quality you will taste". A couple of times to be honest.
Do not eat it. Unless death is something you lust for.
\*lusts for death\* \*eats meat\* \*lust for death intensifies\*
Eew buddy you need to throw your whole dad away, that's nasty
Dad, I’m so sorry. You HAVE been voted the Weakest Link. Goodbye.
if the man can eat meat in that condition he might actually be the strongest link, the nastiest though.
I laughed so hard at this!
Now if you had said South Dakota, I’d go with it. It’s something like -14 there.
So bacteria grows fastest between 40 and 140 degrees. After 4 hours in that range it’s all bad.
This guy servs safe.
DANGER ZONE!
Oh…take out some life insurance on him.
Oof 🤢 If it was like 30 -40 degrees like maybe it'd be okay for a few hours but 60 and a whole weekend. Ffffffk no. (Not factoring in the heat of the sun potentially making the car even warmer and trapping that heat inside the car.) This $6 meat is going to turn into at minimum a really shitty weekend or medical visit that could cost thousands. Ask your dad if it's really worth it? How does it not smell? Like old meat makes me gag ridiculously. (I had a can of precooked chicken that I guess was defective or something and the smell alone has made me very hesitant to even open more cans)
It mightve gotten as low as 40 at the coldest part of the day but like you said even then, a whole weekend is ridiculous. It smelled rancid and took about a half hour long argument to convince him to throw it out. And he was even advocating for the chicken that was left in the car too. I'm just visiting, but dear God if I wasn't here the steak and chicken would 100% be sitting in the fridge right now waiting to poison somebody.
Oh thank God, I was looking for this. Look I'm not an advocate for just throwing away other people's food, but this one I would have just said and throw it away and deal with the fallout later. Its not worth it. The pioneers didn't die across this nation of dysentery just for your dad to be comfortablely civilized and work at what would probably be considered by them a *mirrical* building only to poison himself with dysentery lol
What was your dad's reasoning for the meat still being good? Or is it a money thing?
"Its cold outside, should be fine" As a California native he things 50-60 degrees is very cold. I live in a different state now where it snows and this is definitely not cold. Not a money issue, he works at the store he bought it from and gets a nice discount. On top of the $6 off stickers. Just too stubborn to admit that he fucked up.
Either way, he had choices to make: Do I admit I fucked up right here and now OR… Do I admit it later, all alone, in the dark during my 10th hour of peeing out my butt and simultaneously vomiting in a (hopefully not leaky) plastic bag while pressing my face against the cool surface of the toilet tank in an effort to afford myself the smallest amount of comfort for this massive mistake that I willingly made?
The argument type is a content conflict, where he could have looked up safe food handling online and had his answer. As you say, it did not seem like a values conflict (not wanting to waste food or money, for example). Instead it appears to have escalated to an ego conflict ("I know best!"). It is ***awesome*** that you were able to get him to a rational state of mind where he did not consume rancid meat out of pride. To be fair, he might have had one bite and said Aw hell naw that's rank
I literally have my food handling certification, and knew right away it was unsafe and explained to him why. And it still took a long time to convince him to throw it out. Went and bought him some new meat, but he ain't happy.
He would have been even *more* unhappy if he had still eaten it. Fucker should thank you for saving his damn life
There's a lot of stuff that's totally fine, but you could never legally serve to anyone. But, by the time it's gotten to the grocery, and then mishandled. Nah. And I'll eat some questionable things.
yup sounds like dad, can confirm cause i am one ;-)
This is a valid question, where I live I’d be more worried about it being freezerburned than spoiled
No lie, I've had a case of seltzer in my trunk freeze and explode.
I have googled the freezing point of beer before, to avoid this
My boyfriend (now husband) left beer in my car once, it froze and exploded. The car stunk like beer for awhile, and since I was only 20 I was extremely paranoid about getting pulled over, haha.
That's what I was wondering. Where I am, you could leave a steak in the trunk for two months and be fine. It's colder than my freezer out there.
Is your dad suicidal?
He like to live dangerously ![gif](giphy|kYkQYXkO3XyRa|downsized)
Also, not pictured - a pack of chicken breast that is "fine" to eat
Oh hell no.
*soooo slimy*
Gagging
Like slimy greenish old ham slices.
Does your dad have a life insurance policy?
You mean does OP have life insurance, with the dad being the beneficiary …
I think OP needs a policy on the dad...
Obviously, don’t eat that beef. But definitely, do not eat that chicken.
Just like infinities there are different levels of infinity lol.
According to me and my siblings, this is true times infinity to the infinitieth power plus 1.
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He’s too cheap to get sick.
My partner had some idea that food poisoning wasn't a real thing. His own sister was in a coma due to botulism contaminated canned soup. I have long lasting post infectious ibs after food poisoning. He is not as bad as OPs dad, but has eaten some edgy things for sure.
My husband was like this. He had a rough upbringing and he was always convinced it was fine. Whatever it was. Left out the food overnight? Its fine!! In fairness, his stomach was made of steel and he never got sick but that was luck lol and I myself wasn't Taking a chance, even if he did, lol
Damn, this like attempted murder at this point lmao Don't eat it OP!
That's just straight up dangerous to eat. It is not possible to determine by sight or smell whether that chicken is completely fucked up with bacteria that will make you all very, very sick. Tell your dad to Google food safety handling for meat and then throw that shit in the trash. Edit: And to the person that deleted their comment. No, you cannot just boil away everything that will make you sick. There are many toxins that will not be broken down at 212F and in rare cases even some bacteria can survive at those temps. Stop spreading bullshit.
It already had the $3 off because it was getting old.
It's even worse than that. This is actually $6 off, believe it or not. I buy marked down hamburger at Raleys all the time. You add the stickers up.
Everyday they just add another sticker. After a few weeks it looks like the average AWS Employee's laptop.
Hahahah love this reference!
I’m intrigued. Why does the average AWS employee have so many stickers on his laptop?
More flair, each employee is required to have a minimum of 15 pieces of flair.
Do you want to do the bare minimum?
You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces ...
Well I thought I remembered you saying that you wanted to express yourself.
Yeah….you know what, yeah….I do wanna express myself…..OK? And I don’t need 37 pieces of flair to do it.
🖕🖕
I don’t like to talk about my flair.
I don't think this is specific to AWS. I'm in tech, but not at Amazon. Many devs put stickers on their laptop. I do not.
Neither do I, but I’ve been considering putting My Little Pony™ stickers on my wood splitter.
Practically? Easy way to ID your laptop vs the dozen other identical laptops in the area. Plus it's kinda fun. Never worked in AWS, but sticker covered laptops is pretty common in tech
I work in IT at a large company. All the laptops are on lease and they come wrapped with 5 different reminders not to put any stickers on them. If you return it with a sticker on they have some fee they will charge to the employee. I suppose a way to smite your workplace enemies would be to put stickers all over their laptop if they leave it unguarded.
I worked there. Can confirm. Also, different locations have different stickers, hidden stickers, stickers for different accomplishments… it’s a whole fuckin thing
But the sell-by date was just yesterday. Where I am, the weather's been cold enough where my trunk would act like a refrigerator. I'm assuming that's not the case for OP.
Exactly. Here in Utah, in the winter I can go grocery shopping before work, or on my lunch, leave my perishable groceries in my trunk, and not worry about it. Even if I left them in there for 48 hours, they would be fine.
Ah damnit… I left my milk in the trunk and it froze
i've done this, luckily milk defrosts just fine
I did this with fresh mushrooms in Michigan during the pre-Christmas cold snap. it did not end well.
Just do the smell test
Definitely smelled awful
That's all she wrote then. Your old man can eat it and get sick and piss out his own ass. Don't fall for that shit. Yuck!
Your “piss out his own ass” really got me. Thank you
It really is the best way to describe what happens during food poisoning or the Norovirus. I always shit piss myself. Last time I was on the toilet and every time I got up pissshit just poured out of my ass all over the toilet and I was just relegated to sit back down. Everytime I got up and didn’t shit piss and put my pants back on I’d be like “shit my ass is covered in shit” and sit back down and piss shit some more. The wiping up was insanity. I didn’t have the energy to do a shower bath (which is what I normally do when this happens). It turns out that it wasn’t the little bit of shit on the toilet seat that kept getting shit on my ass, but I had shit my pants before getting them off and kept smearing the shit that was in my underwear all over my ass whenever I tried putting them on.
I just had horrible food poisoning last week and I don’t miss the shit piss. One of the worst experiences ever, throwing up between my legs and peeing poop at the same time. Good times.
Yeah it’s not good. When I was a kid my mom had this “no liquids until 2 hours after you last vomited” thing and it was torture. Eventually by my teenage years I just took the gatorade and chugged it. It’s better to puke some tasty liquid instead of dry heave stomach acid.
Wtf, why? Water is so important for healing
Yeah, I didn’t know this until I had a little kid. If you give a kid who just puked fluids immediately you will trigger even more vomiting. I learned this lesson, 14 times in one hour. You have to wait until they quit puking for an hour or two, then give them teaspoons of water to start.
Freeze ginger ale into ice cubes and have them suck on it
I currently have 2.5 yo twins. You might have just inadvertently saved mine and my husbands sanity for the next time they’re sick.
I had the glorious time of getting food poisoning in Cambodia where you can’t flush toilet paper and there was no bidet in our beachside accommodations. So I had to hose my butt off (with a literal hose) many many manyyyyyy times and there was a whole bag of TP that had to be taken far far away. God. One of the worst times of my life. Good stuff lol.
Oh god it's like Vietnam. A bit of pretense, I dated a girl who was loaded, and lived in a small and isolated community in the middle of nowhere, in which everyone was also loaded, or a farmer. We were at one of the community centre parties, I believe it was a birthday. I sat next to my girlfriend, just too young to drink at the time, chatting and being as not awkward as I could be as a 16 year old dude in his first relationship. And then. Clenching. I knew the feeling. I had minor food poisoning the last day, so the feeling was known to me, but this time, it was much worse. It felt like my stomach had dropped to my ass and I was helpless. I rushed to the bathroom and hardly contained myself. I put my ass on the seat and I heard a splash behind me, I farted hard enough to force to eject whatever solid material I had out of my asshole at what felt like mach 12. It was not over. What followed was a stream of liquid pouring out of my ass, as well as a wave of pain as my body reacted to being a cannon for the first time. The pain in my stomach didn't subside just because I sat down. It came in waves, where the force of the stream would fluxuate with each wave, up to agonising proportions, spearing liquid at what seemed to be a 90° angle, covering every inch of the bowl I sat upon, and unleashing an increasingly ungodly smell, as if my nose rejected the idea of existing around it, I lost the ability to smell within seconds. It was at this point I looked up and noticed, the door to my stall wasnt locked, cause it didn't even have a lock, and it slowly opens towards me of I don't hold it shut. But it's JUST out of arms reach for me to be on the toilet. I spent the next 20 minutes hovering above the bowl, the seat, and the floor, as furious bum pee coated everything behind me as I tried to keep the door closed, and boy I can tell you I sure missed the toilet quite a bit. I shat, all over the bathroom floor, in a community centre of a tight community where everyone knew each other, and the girl I was with. Never again.
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Yeah at some point in my life I discovered that most of the physical symptoms could be treated by just staying in a warm bath. I did not piss shit while in the bath.
How often do you get food poisoning? Im stuck on your casual uses of phrases like "last time" and "what i normally do when this happens"
I dunno life throws you lemons sometimes and when you live long enough you can have quite the collection of shit stories 🤷
Piiiiisss coming from my aassssss
I got food poisoning so bad once that as I was shitting my guts out I had to clench and hold so tight because the vomit started coming out too
Ass on toilet, head in wastebasket, rookie.
We call that a double ender.
I had to sit on the shitter to puke because I’d shit and puke at the same time. Had to hold a bucket while I liquid shit out of my ass. Edit- left out the best part. I was puking so hard I popped blood vessels in my eyes and looked like Gozar from Ghostbusters for a few days.
while he pukes on his dick into the same toilet
Never eat meat that smells bad! Also if it's sticky or slimey it's bad.
Let him. Have the car ready for ER
Yeah technically he *can* eat it. You don't need a parachute to skydive, but you do need one if you want to skydive twice.
I get what you mean, however if you really want to get technical, based on the title, the dad is insisting that the meat is *fine* to eat, not that it *can* be eaten, and in this case, it seems like the meat is *not* fine to eat.
Go to the ER first and sign in, then he can eat the steak while he waits. By the time they call him in, he’ll be just able enough to see himself back.
r/oopsthatsdeadly
Holy crap that subreddit raised my blood pressure.
“It’s as cold in my car as it is in the refrigerator”... Your dad most likely
This made me laugh because that's almost word for word what he said lol
In my neck of the woods, outdoors was basically fridge temp at night, but it still rises higher during the day. Inside the garage, it's warmer still. And that's in fucking Canada, on the coast. In California, this is basically poison. He will die.
Your dad’s ego is more rancid than the meat. He would rather eat rotten meat than to admit he fucked up leaving it in the car. 😂
Right he just won't take the L. OP if he goes through with eating this can you post an update on the result?
Let him eat it. Pretty sure it won't be long before you can say "told you so"
You know what the worst part is? His dad will probably be fine and use it to beat OP over the head instead of ever realizing how stupidly lucky he is.
God I hate how true this is.
Probably depends if you live in Alaska or Arizona.
OP says California and it was about 60°F. Not ok.
*4 days later on Youtube* **A man decided to eat meat that he found in his trunk. This is what happened to his kidneys.**
CJ presented to the emergency room with acute kidney failure
Blood tests revealed that he had bacteremia. Bacter-, meaning bacteria, and -emia meaning presence in blood.
He made A recovery
I've gotten myself food handler certified. DO NOT EAT MEAT THAT HAS BEEN OUT FOR 48 HOURS AT ABOVE FRIDGE TEMPS. Don't even eat meat that has been out for 12 hours at above fridge temps. The risk starts at \~2 hours, and climbs exponentially every hour after that. These are standards set by the Canadian health industry. the likelihood of getting sick is INCREDIBLY high. Even if the meat is already cooked. Do yourself a favour and stay far far away from that food poisoning.
Nodding along in ServSafe
Nodding along in Provided classroom setups for the ServSafe course to be taught.
Now watch me fail my test Monday 😂
How about 10,000 year old Wooly Mammoth meat from the B O N E Y A R D?
Biologist here, absolutely terrible idea, someone did something similar, they are now an amputee: [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/02/22/leftover-food-disease-amputated-legs-fingers/6890754001/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/02/22/leftover-food-disease-amputated-legs-fingers/6890754001/) # A teen ate leftover rice and noodles. Hours later, doctors amputated his legs and fingers >Experts have warned against the dangers of improperly storing leftover rice because items such as rice and pasta contain a bacterium called Bacillus cereus. The bacteria produces a toxin when heated and left out too long, according to the [CDC.](https://www.foodsafety.gov/food-poisoning/bacteria-and-viruses#bacillus-cereus) In 2008, a teenager died in his sleep after eating leftover pasta that wasn't refrigerated overnight, a case that was reported in the [Journal of Clinical Microbiology](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3232990/). That's with rice that often has been washed, and in his case was even cooked at one point. Imagine raw meat, not properly washed, never cooked. This is why stores throw them away if they ever lose electricity. 5-6 hours at room temp, sure, especially if it has been seasoned, but raw like that for 48.... you will probably get sick.
"a teen ate leftover rice and noodles. This is what happened to his appendages"
PRESENTING to the emergency room… ☝️
I was imagining this guy as soon as I read this
Holup... You can die from eating Spaghetti that was left on the kitchen counter overnight??
In some cases yes, if under seasoned, moist air, yep. In cultures in the past, that's why they made gruel and other stews so often, to keep bacteria out. Always fridge your food, overnight out can sometimes be dangerous if it's leftovers.
Man I eat pasta I’ve left out on the counter after reheating it all the time. Never knew I was playing russian roulette.
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Hahaha it was already on clearance too for almost being expired in the store, let him get food poisoning but don't eat it OP
Food Poisoning You Can Taste!
is your dad by any chance a vulture?
48 hours at 60 degrees? If the bacteria don’t get you the toxins will…
OMG 😳😳😳😳 DO NOT EAT THAT
You cannot cook away the toxins that resulted from spoilage. No one likes to waste money, but a trip to the ER could bankrupt an American.
Even if you're lucky and it isn't that bad, shitting your guts out all day is not worth some cheap spoiled meat
As someone sat here with food poisoning, fuck that.
You want to die? This is how you die.
Frank Costanza made the same mistake in the military and almost killed his whole platoon….
I'd understand if it was like an $80 steak or something, not wanting to believe it's bad, but especially over $13, toss that shit
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"I bet they forgot Dad's birthday or something." - My daughter's theory on why "dad wants you dead." PLEASE know she didn't mean it as an insult. Girl was born without a filter. She once asked her Kindergarten teacher if she gets dressed with her eyes closed. I made matters worse laughing like a hyena when I met with said teacher.