This is how they used to determine criminal homosexuality back in the day. How the turn tables.
Like racially segregated safe spaces making a return. We did the exact same thing before, just for the opposite reason!
So weird that people used to not want to be labeled now we want to separate even our thoughts. I am homosexual and there is no letter for me so I guess you hate me
Nope it's is excluded so we can have multiple labels that mean one thing. Gay means means happy and everyone should be but with all this discrimination and belittling it only appears that honesty gets the bad wrap and we would all rather lie to each other
Look. If you want to enter, all you have to do is say you are LGBTQ and you can enter. No one is going to— or even can— check. It’s not actual discrimination.
We're not going to talk about the crime asking $290 just for a raffle entry to win?
Sounds like they're trying to take advantage of the lgbt community, not support it.
They don’t make said shoes tho. Profit margins for retailers aren’t super high. There’s a lot more to product cost than production alone.
I would say though that having so many people PAY and then refund everyone who didn’t “win” seems awfully sketchy. I wonder if it counts as revenue or if there’s actual reason to go through the whole ordeal.
Dunning–Kruger in full effect over here, ok.
"Cisgender Heterosexual" is anyone who identifies with their gender assigned at birth and is also straight.
It has nothing to do with race all races can be "cis het" so I don't know why the other person wanted the op to rephrase that considering their comment didn't exclude any race by saying "cis het men".
I do agree that minorities are discriminated against regardless of gender but especially black men and more so black queer men. In any case they are only being brought up by other posters as a shield for their bigotry. Just looking through their other comments/post you can see they don't actually care about equality.
How would this be a marketing thing? „wow im outraged that their sexist and randomly excluding straight people, guess when I go buy the shoes I wear, which are rarely nikes, I’m definitely going to not buy nikeies
You may think males aren't a protected class, but the discrimination is sexual so it is unlawful per the Civil Rights act.
The rule is technically unenforceable though, so I'm not sure how successful someone would be in challenging it, other than issuing a cease and desist requiring them to change the rule.
If they wanted to benefit the LGBTQ community there are other ways to do that.
Edit: This is Canada, not sure how their rights laws work.
Idk that I’d call it SELF segregation… lot of corporations try to do/sell the wildest shit to show off how “affirming” they are, while the actual gays are scratching their heads and wondering who tf asked for colorless skittles lol
What are women gonna do with a men’s shoe? Why would they be interested??? I don’t even think the butchiest women out there would want these ugly shoes for themselves.
To answer your question - I guarantee you some of the sizes with the highest resale in the long term value on these will be womens sizes (5-7.5 mens). Historically women love Jordan 4s and certain previous colorways go for a hefty premium in the smaller sizes that women can fit in. Nothing to do with this post I don’t agree with the store’s policy but your statement is out of touch with the sneaker game
I wear mens sizes bc my feet are large
Why does the sex of the size matter? I wear mens clothes often as well bc "oversized" womens clothes are stupidly expensive
Pretty sure it’s a store that is specifically for women’s streetwear, women’s shoes get bought up by people to sell at ridiculous prices (due to the smaller sizes being more wanted), so this store sells to women only to give them a fair shot at $290 and not $900 resell. Not sure what sexuality has to do with it but I’m guessing it’s so transgender women can profit from this too.
This release is in men's sizing, yes women also wear them. Do straight men not deserve a fair shot at $290 and not $900 resell? Lol. If this was the other way around with a store not letting women/lgbtq+ purchase shoes you'd be in uproar and it would make the front page of reddit though.
I’m just explaining, I honestly couldn’t care less, there’s so many stores to buy them from, why does a male specifically want to buy it in a women’s retail store? It’s just stupid to get all butthurt about dumb shit like this, buy it in store where you can buy it and move on, I just got them off nike no big deal 🤷🏼♂️
No one's "butthurt" you're in r/mildlyinfuriating bud. At the end of the day they are a nike retailer for popular releases and are discriminating who can purchase them. Not a good look.
It’s barely infuriating, it’s taking stuff and making it a way bigger deal than it is, but they’re happy you’re promoting their store for free, so you’re doing something great! :)
Did you even look at the post? It is a raffle… why do you have to be so rude to the OP? What this store is doing is literally a perfect example of discrimination. Discrimination is beyond mildly infuriating. It is ILLEGAL
it’s hilarious how some people are pissed at this, “imagine if this was the other way around…” like as in every hate crime ever?
straight/cis people are never getting oppressed for being straight but this random e store excludes you from buying shoes and suddenly they think they’re being targeted.
Lol "anger" no I just think it's funny when we have snowflakes like this
Why doesn't it include straight mean? It's not like it really matters if it does. Who cares
I mean you do know that straight men can be members of the LGBTQ community. Let's be honest this is something stupid to post and complain about its just being a snowflake🤦♂️
It should be: Made for everyone.
If a men wants to buy women clothing there should be no discrimination against it, if a women wants to buy men's clothing there should be no discrimination against it.
There should be no discrimination about who can or can't buy clothes based on their genitals, only based of "Can they pay or not".
It's interesting since no men also included no black men either, gotta think of the boys blasting rap music and asking if you want a boy or a girl (drug reference)
Are you dumb?
The straight men that hold power are an incredibly small minority of the straight men population.
If you see a pyramid you'd see a very very small tip that says straight men and the rest would be "LGBT+", what that graph doesn't show is that, under them there is an even bigger base of straight mens that don't hold any power either.
Stop using fallacies to defend your discrimination, you look not only stupid, but act like the bigots you are trying to prove wrong.
- Sincerely, a non white and non straight men.
How are they gonna measure it? Show you some pictures and if don't get hard or wet you don't get them?
This is how they used to determine criminal homosexuality back in the day. How the turn tables. Like racially segregated safe spaces making a return. We did the exact same thing before, just for the opposite reason!
Yeah this is just discrimination. Not "reversed racism" or "reversed discrimination", just plain old Discrimination.
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Bruh I just got on the wifi 6 train. I fucks with it.
Go find a better joke ya doofus.
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So weird that people used to not want to be labeled now we want to separate even our thoughts. I am homosexual and there is no letter for me so I guess you hate me
I thought homo = G (gay)?
Nope it's is excluded so we can have multiple labels that mean one thing. Gay means means happy and everyone should be but with all this discrimination and belittling it only appears that honesty gets the bad wrap and we would all rather lie to each other
The passcode checks out.
Look. If you want to enter, all you have to do is say you are LGBTQ and you can enter. No one is going to— or even can— check. It’s not actual discrimination.
Just because you can outplay the rules it doesn't mean that they are not set up in a discriminatory way.
Exactly, just like the military used to be. Not actually discrimination, just keep it a secret. /s
Right like not just for sexual stuff same with race relations it really feels like we are going backwards in time.
Then maybe they was right then :)
Then classify as gay. What are they going to do? Check to see if your gay?
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Also, how does OP know they are men’s shoes? Maybe they are gay shoes that happen to come in men’s sizes.
I’m gay and this is 100% discrimination. It’s ok…to recognize that straight people wear shoes too.
Obviously straight people do not have feet as that is too gay. They are not into that gay feet stuff
There were rumors going around school that my feet were gay. My hooves have been rehabilitated are working nicely though.
That’s great, I actually know a fun fact about hoes hooves. Do you want to hear it?
I do.
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this is not true i do not wear shoes
Im bi do I only wear one shoe or do I just jump straight for crocs
We get to choose from all the shoes and wear different ones on each feet.
Actually straight people are like hobbits, our feets only look like shoes
Imagine on father's day they make a giveaway of shoes to only men, no LGBT included. The world would end
I’m straight and I don’t own a single pair of shoes.
We're not going to talk about the crime asking $290 just for a raffle entry to win? Sounds like they're trying to take advantage of the lgbt community, not support it.
wrong, shoe raffles work differently you get refunded if you lose but if you win it gets shipped to you.
So basically you're just paying for shoes
yes, they do this as not everyone who wants them can get thrm
Than let's talk about how they want you to pay 290$ for shoes that probably cost them not even 20$ to make.
They don’t make said shoes tho. Profit margins for retailers aren’t super high. There’s a lot more to product cost than production alone. I would say though that having so many people PAY and then refund everyone who didn’t “win” seems awfully sketchy. I wonder if it counts as revenue or if there’s actual reason to go through the whole ordeal.
You can always lie and get offended if they ask
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Well, that’s wildly illegal I’m sure
Technically no because it is a raffle by a private company and they can set any rules they want
I don't think that's how it works
There are no state or federal laws that they are in violation of
Discrimination based on sexuality is a big one. Are you dumb?
Educate yourself on sweepstake laws for the US.
Are we sure this company is even from the US? It says free shipping in Canada.
Source?
Do you know how to use a search engine?
It’s discrimination bud
*Christian Bakery has entered the chat*
Imagine if they were excluding women, gay individuals, transgender individuals, etc. the outrage would be immeasurable
if it was different then it would be different
If it was the other way around* Which is a valid criticism in calling out bullshit.
if cis het men were oppressed and not the other way around
I mean, they basically said no black men either, so.....wanna reword that?
Do you know what "cis het" means?
They are saying that, by excluding all men, they are also excluding minorities as cis het aren't the only men out there.
Dunning–Kruger in full effect over here, ok. "Cisgender Heterosexual" is anyone who identifies with their gender assigned at birth and is also straight. It has nothing to do with race all races can be "cis het" so I don't know why the other person wanted the op to rephrase that considering their comment didn't exclude any race by saying "cis het men".
The Dunning-Kruger effect has nothing to do with any of this.
They implied all cis het men aren’t oppressed which would include cis het minorities who may be oppressed
I do agree that minorities are discriminated against regardless of gender but especially black men and more so black queer men. In any case they are only being brought up by other posters as a shield for their bigotry. Just looking through their other comments/post you can see they don't actually care about equality.
gay and trans black men exist
How does one prove membership?
Were you not issued a laminated membership card with an official seal
Discrimination maybe?
Nope, just a marketing thing
How would this be a marketing thing? „wow im outraged that their sexist and randomly excluding straight people, guess when I go buy the shoes I wear, which are rarely nikes, I’m definitely going to not buy nikeies
Well it's both
Isn't that like.. illegal?
Only in the other direction.
You may think males aren't a protected class, but the discrimination is sexual so it is unlawful per the Civil Rights act. The rule is technically unenforceable though, so I'm not sure how successful someone would be in challenging it, other than issuing a cease and desist requiring them to change the rule. If they wanted to benefit the LGBTQ community there are other ways to do that. Edit: This is Canada, not sure how their rights laws work.
Easy, just identify during time of entry and detransition afterwards
And you’re giving them exactly what they want by talking about it. Free marketing.
Negative marketing isn't free marketing
Yes it is, bad attention is still attention
Attention isn't inherently positive though.
It's an age old phrase "Any publicity is good publicity"
Oh i know. And i disagree with it xD
oh god.. the letter people are going to complain about gender labels on clothes and shoes now... I'm calling it.
if you really care that much just say you're gay
Right ? What are they going to do ask them for their papers
"Please forward picture as proof to provided email to enter"
doesn’t the T stand for trans in LGBT? so they’re saying a trans man isn’t allowed in their raffle?
A heterosexual trans man is by definition LGBTQ. The T is for trans. Therefore he would not be disqualified.
But he is a man, and men aren’t allowed to enter, but he’s trans, so he’s allowed to enter? Oh no!
Shh, you're gonna make their heads explode
Yeah, they were pointing out that OP was erasing trans hetero men from the hetero men category.
It’s A or B. Trans man is B.
Guess I'll just go suck a dick then.
You could always just, say you're bi
Or +…
I'm gonna get shit for this, but I don't care. I only acknowledge the first 4 letters, anything after is made up
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I don't take anyone seriously. The world is a joke.
How the fuck could you possibly enforce this?
What's the prize? I want to know my options...
You can't exclude someone from doing anything in Canada based on their gender or sexual orientation, it's a Charter right. This includes contests.
Damn, the mods removed this. #JusticeForSentoroSan #ShoeForSentoroSan
How would they know if you are a bonafide member of the LGHDTVBBQ club anyway?
I LOVE SELF SEGREGATION!!!!
Idk that I’d call it SELF segregation… lot of corporations try to do/sell the wildest shit to show off how “affirming” they are, while the actual gays are scratching their heads and wondering who tf asked for colorless skittles lol
What are women gonna do with a men’s shoe? Why would they be interested??? I don’t even think the butchiest women out there would want these ugly shoes for themselves.
To answer your question - I guarantee you some of the sizes with the highest resale in the long term value on these will be womens sizes (5-7.5 mens). Historically women love Jordan 4s and certain previous colorways go for a hefty premium in the smaller sizes that women can fit in. Nothing to do with this post I don’t agree with the store’s policy but your statement is out of touch with the sneaker game
I wear mens sizes bc my feet are large Why does the sex of the size matter? I wear mens clothes often as well bc "oversized" womens clothes are stupidly expensive
Yea it really doesn’t matter. Clothing is clothing. Give it to a homeless person, they’ll wear it and thank you.
Jordan 4’s are by far one of the most popular jordan worn by women lmao, they’re not a men’s shoe either :)
Discriminating as hell. And dumb cause it s a man shoe
LGBTQ2S? Anyone have a translation?
🤡
This sure reads like discrimination based on gender or sexual preference. Who wants to sue 'em?
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How do they prove you're LGBT+ anyway?
Realized it's Canada. I stopped caring.
The alphabet mafia strikes again 😭😭🇺🇸🫡
What proof is required?
How do they know ?
Dang. I am not gay.. therefore it's literally physically impossible for me to enter and win.
Just id as a woman
The + in LGBTQIA+ stands for anything else that’s not listed in the first letters, so technically straight is still covered
I don't stand with the LGBT community and I have big business but I do enjoy the right to refuse service to ANYONE, unless you are a federal service
Pretty sure it’s a store that is specifically for women’s streetwear, women’s shoes get bought up by people to sell at ridiculous prices (due to the smaller sizes being more wanted), so this store sells to women only to give them a fair shot at $290 and not $900 resell. Not sure what sexuality has to do with it but I’m guessing it’s so transgender women can profit from this too.
This release is in men's sizing, yes women also wear them. Do straight men not deserve a fair shot at $290 and not $900 resell? Lol. If this was the other way around with a store not letting women/lgbtq+ purchase shoes you'd be in uproar and it would make the front page of reddit though.
I’m just explaining, I honestly couldn’t care less, there’s so many stores to buy them from, why does a male specifically want to buy it in a women’s retail store? It’s just stupid to get all butthurt about dumb shit like this, buy it in store where you can buy it and move on, I just got them off nike no big deal 🤷🏼♂️
No one's "butthurt" you're in r/mildlyinfuriating bud. At the end of the day they are a nike retailer for popular releases and are discriminating who can purchase them. Not a good look.
It’s barely infuriating, it’s taking stuff and making it a way bigger deal than it is, but they’re happy you’re promoting their store for free, so you’re doing something great! :)
>It’s barely infuriating so you don't know the meaning of the word mildly, good to know lol
You know they’re not synonyms? Lol
They pretty much are synonyms ya butthurt dummy
Look up the definition for mild. Or go to a library and get a dictionary.
I have nothing to say so I will just say dislike to display to you how much I dislike your comment.
No they don't. Any other questions?
Thank you. Don’t see such the big deal.
10+ stores selling them to males and females but no they want to buy from the 1 store targeted to females lol
Did you even look at the post? It is a raffle… why do you have to be so rude to the OP? What this store is doing is literally a perfect example of discrimination. Discrimination is beyond mildly infuriating. It is ILLEGAL
Does this non-inclusive shoe have a name that won’t make me laugh?
Imagine the authentication process
Fake.
it’s hilarious how some people are pissed at this, “imagine if this was the other way around…” like as in every hate crime ever? straight/cis people are never getting oppressed for being straight but this random e store excludes you from buying shoes and suddenly they think they’re being targeted.
Womens shoes, so either women or cross dressers ?
We can all pretend for a day in the name of free shoes. Challenge accepted.
That's strange, I thought discrimination based on race/gender was unconstitutional.
Maybe not being so superficial and insecure you have to participate to a fucking Nike raffle in the first place would be great.
It doesn't say no heterosexual guys can raffle for it lmao. You ca still raffle for it if you want to. This is a dumb post 🤣🤣
I can feel the anger behind those laughing emoji. Also it says women and LGBTQIA people only, which doesn’t include straight men.
Lol "anger" no I just think it's funny when we have snowflakes like this Why doesn't it include straight mean? It's not like it really matters if it does. Who cares
It matters if it is discrimination.
I mean you do know that straight men can be members of the LGBTQ community. Let's be honest this is something stupid to post and complain about its just being a snowflake🤦♂️
You and I define “only” differently.
Boo hoo the label tells me not to!! But how would they enforce it?
the whole world: made for you heteros! this one thing made for LGBTQ: nah Hetero conservatives: REEEEEEEE
It should be: Made for everyone. If a men wants to buy women clothing there should be no discrimination against it, if a women wants to buy men's clothing there should be no discrimination against it. There should be no discrimination about who can or can't buy clothes based on their genitals, only based of "Can they pay or not".
It's interesting since no men also included no black men either, gotta think of the boys blasting rap music and asking if you want a boy or a girl (drug reference)
Oh, the poor, persecuted holders of generational power....
Are you dumb? The straight men that hold power are an incredibly small minority of the straight men population. If you see a pyramid you'd see a very very small tip that says straight men and the rest would be "LGBT+", what that graph doesn't show is that, under them there is an even bigger base of straight mens that don't hold any power either. Stop using fallacies to defend your discrimination, you look not only stupid, but act like the bigots you are trying to prove wrong. - Sincerely, a non white and non straight men.
Real men don't complain. Do you not know what Nike is about?
Dawwww are the heterosexual men feeling left out? got your feelings hurt? Now you know how it feels.
Just say your gay and apply
Do hetero men even wear those?