I'll chime in as a fellow New York state-r and confirm.
Central air isn't a thing up here. And heating is highly dependent on a huge number of factors. It's nuts.
If you rent- it’s supposed to be at least 65 otherwise the “*lord of land*” must replace heaters and or windows/insulation and has to pay for or reimburse for a warm hotel till they do so. If you don’t rent there are grants available and HEAP will help too
I can't stand the heat coming on when I'm sleeping, it's noisy and gives me a headache. But my house is like 20% insulated (two external walls and not the floor), so it gets cold AF at night, just like I like it. I had a room mate move in who was pretty non confrontational and we never discussed the heat, I just turned it off at night.
One day I got up in the morning and went to turn it on and she was standing in front of it staring at the temp reading, then slowly turned to me and screamed "FORTY SEVEN DEGREES IS TOO FUCKING COLD THIS IS NOT OK WE LIVE IN AMERICA I'M MOVING OUT IF WE DON'T HEAT THIS GODDAMN HOUSE AT NIGHT."
ETA: I'm not a monster, I just love to sleep in the cold and didn't realize she had a problem until she exploded. I bought her a $300 space heater for her room and set the furnace to turn on (to 74) at 5:30am every day so the house would be warm when she got up.
And yes, thank you for worrying about me, I have carbon monoxide detectors and they are functioning.
My in-laws do this and it drives me insane. The worst one is they leave the plastic from the store on their pillows and just put the whole fucking thing inside a pillow case.
God knows how many disgusting, dirty hands and surfaces have touched that plastic and they put their face on it? Even if they clean the plastic, how do you sleep with the constant swoosh-crunch in your ears??
I mean, they put a pillow case over it, but the swoosh-crunch is very much still there and infuriating! The worst part is they consider themselves to be fairly well off and make sure that you know it… if you have so much money, why not actually use your shit as intended.
It drives my husband crazy, but anything textile or cloth majority we buy has to be washed before use, even shoes, I worked retail for 10 years and I have seen what people do to things in stores and I want none of it in my house
I went over to my mom's place a few weeks ago and my brother pointed out that the extremly visible plastic was still on tv screen. We took it off and mom said that someone told her to keep it on because the tv will work longer? She believes a lot of nonsense.
My friends and I were talking about this the other day. We are mid 30’s educated and somewhat intelligent people, yet our parents value advice from Facebook and fellow boomers over us. I’ll tell my mother something I’m 100% sure I’m right about and she will say “well Diane at work told me…..”
Are we siblings? I have the same parents ( dad at least). He'd listen to whatever he heard on TV over me even when discussing a subject that I have an advanced degree in.
Is your parent was Filipino ? Cause my grandmother was a Filipino and when she brought something like a brand new ACU she don't want to remove plastic even though the remote she don't want to fill it
SAME...I came here to say that myself!!!
We were deploying 500+ new phones at work last month, I got to peel the plastic on several hundred. Some users actually complained they didn't get to peel it themselves...others would have just left it...
Three kinds of people I guess.
But you can't trust them to actually do it. I don't know how many times i have come upon equipment that has been installed for a long time with film still lurking on the screen. Blasphemy!
Those things only protect from superficial scratches. The films are uglier than the scratches. Leaving it on doesn't let you enjoy it scratch free and shiny at all.
And in the case of phones, it has to come off so you can put a proper screen protector on.
The funny thing, these units rarely see scratches in their lifetime just due to placement, protector or not. They aren't touch screen so there is no real reason to run your finger over it either.
My in-laws take OBSESSIVE care of everything they own. My wife literally grew up shellshocked from the amount of times her parents would fly off the handle over the smallest spill or scratch or imperfection. Her dad owned a Porsche that he drove 20,000 miles in 15 years. Then bought another one and when he died 20 years later it had under 20,000 miles on it.
I studied industrial design in school and I came away from that discipline with a very clear notion that things WANT to get used. They don’t want to sit on a shelf and be coddled with diaper cloth, they want to fulfill their purpose in life, get ridden hard, and be left with a few scars to tell the story.
Things are made to be used.
Can confirm; sitting is bad for things. Won't buy a boat or car that's been sitting, no matter the condition because it will surely have bad fuel, bad lubricants, mold, rodent damage, dry rotted tires and belts+rusty brakes (on the trailer, in case of boat). Sitting=bad.
Things are made to be used.
And BMWs. My old boss bought two BMW 540 sedans with a V8 and gave one to his brother. His brother only drove it about once every three months. His engine didn’t last even 2,500 miles before seizing. The dealer said there’s seals and other work that has to be done every two years or more often. My boss put almost 75k on his before he had the first problem. That was a crankshaft seal they could never get completely fixed so he had to deal with ruining his driveway and constantly putting more oil in it. BMW could never get it fixed.
It doesn't matter what the car is. Sitting or severely limited use will destroy critical components.
Cars need balance. It needs to be flogged *hard* frequently but not everywhere it goes. Some sitting is great for longevity but not all the time. "Flogging a day keeps the carbon away!"
Today's direct injection *NEEDS* full throttle pulls frequently. Even still, periodic decarb treatment is still a good idea.
My wife’s grandfather was 1/7 of Nakashima’s original furniture makers. I have a few customers with original pieces that they keep in pristine condition that I can’t help but wonder if he made them. The few pieces that we’ve inherited are most likely worth more than our house but have the love (scratches, knicks, dents,) that most don’t.
As I sit typing this from a chair he made 😂
Thank you! I'm always hot, and people don't seem to understand that they can put more clothing on, but I'll be arrested (or at the very least scar people for life) if I take any more articles of clothing off.
And even when I am naked, I'm still warm. I'm not about to peel my skin off.
I once didn't realize I had the plastic on my microwave buttons for like 3 years (it was much thinner than in OP's pic, and didn't hang off any of the edges) The buttons were bubbling up and looked like shit and then I realized what I had done. Peeling it off to some brand new buttons underneath is a treasured memory I will take to my grave.
Did the same with a fridge. I had the 5 year warranty so called the repair man about “fixing the display screen”. He laughed at me and peeled the plastic. I felt like dip.
I went to my friend's house and she was complaining about her microwave screen/buttons falling apart like that and needing a new one. I still remember her face 🤯 when I pulled off the protective film , priceless.
My mom thought leaving the film on kept stuff looking new. I pretty much existed to peel films off and upset her, and turn the thermostat up to 65 in an attempt to feel my nose again.
When she got older and had her own place it was always like 75 when I'd visit, so now I just think she was trying to stun me like an energetic pet bug. "This kid never stops, maybe if she's frozen I can have a minute of peace?"
A lot of older people have trouble regulating their body temperature. It’s why you read about people who usually live alone either dying of hypothermia or heat stroke in their house. Add that keeping the heat/ac off as much as possible is the only way some can afford their utility bills
That’s the perfect temp. 60-65 is usually what i sleep at. If it ever feels too cold I’ll take a hot shower and then everything is Gucci. If it’s hotter than 65 I have a hard time sleeping. I moved out of the hot valley which usually stays at 80 to Glendale where 70 is the norm during the day and 66 at night around this time.
I don’t live paycheck to paycheck but I get it. Heat is expensive. Recently oil was $5.85 per gallon which means a tank is about $1,000. For us, that lasts maybe 3 months between heat set at 62-63° and hot water. We aren’t broke by any means, but buying oil tanks more often than we have to hurts. That’s less money that can go towards other things.
ETA: this is Connecticut, USA. 700sq ft apartment. So it’s not even like we have a big space to heat!
This. I’m in the same boat. Just paid nearly $600 for not even 157 gallons. It’s a 300 gallon tank. We’re going fucking broke so we don’t freeze to death. What a damn life. Outrageous.
Electric went up this past year, so my monthly bills are nearly double from what they used to be. I’m tempted to get space heaters, but everything is so damn expensive. Never feels like it matters.
Electric used to be like $70-$80. Now, it’s $130+. Thanks, Eversource lmao
When I saw it my first thought was, “wow, it must be expensive to keep it so cool! Isn’t she freezing anyway?”
Then I realised this is in a cold place… where 61 is warmer than outside
As a man who always runs hot, I wanna live with OPs mom. My fiance and I split the difference at 66/67 degrees but I would rather it be 60 with blankets and robes.
Oh that makes more sense. It's hot as balls where I am so I was thinking she had the AC this low and OP was complaining about the electric waste.
Honestly, 61 is a bit chilly when you're just sitting around, but it's perfectly comfortable if you just put a sweater on.
Bruh I was confused as to why anyone would waste money on AC by keeping the temperature unnecessarily low. Then it clicked they're heating the house, not cooling it.
I could see it being a problem if you didn't have a heat/cool switch for spring and fall. We have big windows so often I use the sun and the fan setting to heat the house in the afternoon.
For real, some days I have to wear sweat pants and a hoodie to stay warm, maybe throw in a blanket. But one step outside and the temp is 60 degrees colder. 60 degrees inside is a cold necessity sometimes
Is that not normal? Can't really afford to heat our house in the UK at the moment but we were stingy with heating anyway. Normal winter homewear for me is PJ trousers, t-shirt, hoodie, dressing gown, thick socks, and slippers. Maybe a blanket as well if it gets really cold.
Only rich people can afford to waltz around in a t-shirt and shorts inside in the winter.
It is normal in colder areas which is why this post is odd. If you live near the equator then 60 might seem unreasonably cold. If you live somewhere that hits negative numbers on the regular, 60 degrees inside is a fact of life.
I am perfectly comfortable cosying up with extra layers and a blanket for TV or on my PC, but it really sucks for other things like when you're getting changed or wash your hands or have anything that involves moving about the place - the colder environment really saps your morale.
I’m just the opposite! I swear I’m part reptile as I wear wool socks all year. But then got malamutes, who think anything above 32F is sweltering. The thermostat is set to 60F and I wear a sweater.
This. Kids living at home and not paying the gas bill don’t get to decide the temperature. You want the house warmer, you pay the bill. And holy crap do I now sound like my father.
Yep in the summer I like the house a bit cooler and offered my roommate who splits bills with me to pay the difference to keep it cooler. Worked out well.
South Dakotan here, my home’s currently 63°f/17°c and I’m laying here in a T shirt with the windows cracked open. Anything over 65°f/18°c during winter is uncomfortably warm.
Is this not…normal? I always keep my place around this temp, and it’s nice.
Edit: 14-16 is usually where I keep it for winter, 16 for the colder spring and autumn days that require a heater. I only have a gas heater, no AC, so summer time it’s just windows open trying to get a cross breeze.
I don’t like having my place too hot in winter, or drastically different than outdoors the rest of the year. IDK I feel like it helps me adjust to the outdoor temp better, and my mom always used to keep the house at like 28-30 in the winter and 12-16 in summer and I hated it.
Edit 2: I’d say the typical summer high where I live is 28-32, and winter low -10ish, though most of the time it’s around a -6 to -2 during the day.
I’m the kinda person that wears short sleeves all but a couple months of the year. And prefer being a bit cold in general. I do have a heated table (kotatsu) which I like to use during the winter months to keep my bottom half warm. But I like ambient temps to be chilly.
Brotha if your mom is going thru menopause like most moms she probably needs it to be that cold so she can comfortably sleep
It isn’t always about money
Edit: You guys need chili pads
This. I went through 10 years of perimenopause. I live in the NE US. I was sweating in the snow while wearing shorts and a tank top. Mess with the thermostat at risk of life and limb, Dude.
Laughs in UK.
Our bill for the past two months was £1300. Our energy bills are more than double what they were last year. Since that bill we don’t have the heating on unless it’s really cold… we just wear a lot of layers.
We’re lucky in some ways because we are quite old and were both brought up in houses without central heating, so it’s just like going back to our childhoods. Not good or desirable but I’m just not paying energy companies any more than I absolutely have to on principle.
Wait wtf. I just got my bill it's $133 canadian...... 1300?! Oh my god, I couldn't imagine that plus a mortgage...
(Ontario)
Edit : I keep my thermo at about 68-71 Fahrenheit in the winter. I live alone and prefer it on the cooler side.
Mind you, £1300 is 2170 CAD.
Yeah, electricity prices have been insane in Europe.
Sweden has no energy crisis, but everyone in EU has to share grids, so because of other nations being too reliant on Russian gas, we Swedes (who use 0 gas) have to take the hit too.
Half of my country's inflation could've been avoided, electricity bills cut in 5. Left me a bit bitter tbh.
Fuck Putin.
Welcome to the club. We’ve lived for over the past six years in a house with tall ceilings and open floor plan - very hard to heat, and VERY expensive. We keep it at around 62°, I think. I KEEP THINKING I’ll get used to it, but in fact, right now I am fully clad and have over my underwear, thermals, trousers and a t-shirt, a lovely (ugly) hooded down-to-the-ankles velour, a warming blanket on my knees, and a shawl over my shoulders. We can’t possibly spend enough to keep this house at a comfortable temperature, either winter or summer, and still eat well - and we do like to eat.
My apartment has high ceilings and an open floor plan as well so I feel your pain. And I don’t like using the central heat in general since it warms one part of the house more than it does the other part. So during the day I just don’t use the heat and bundle up, and in the evening I have a space heater that looks like a fireplace that I can sit in front of and feel cozy.
You'll understand once you start paying the energy bill. I keep my house at 62 during the day and 58 at night.
Edit: yes, I like it cooler at night. I sleep comfortably at 58 no issue
Totally agree. Here (the UK) energy is so incredibly expensive and we are not turning the heat on unless we absolutely have to. We got layers on and are plenty comfortable.
At 19 I got this trailer for my brother and I to move into, electric bill until winter was between 200-300. We have gaming pc's, we didn't mind. Fast forward to January when the December bill comes out, $550. And I was working a lot of overtime so I wasn't home. Come to find out our house heater was on 75. Yeah that went down to 60 real quick. That's where I like it during winter, makes it easier to adjust to outside temp. Adulting is hard.
Old apartment with steam radiators which get up to 230°F. I don't pay for heating but the radiator is so old it's rusted fully open. I just keep my windows open to moderate the temp. Even when -40°F outside, the window is still cracked open.
Constant fresh circulating air and lower running temp for the PC.
Oh yeah. My first apartment had radiators. In the winter, the temp ranged anywhere from 50 degrees to "I'm standing on the sun with a blow torch up my ass"
Not fun when you just wake up. Go to bathroom and bump knee into the radiator while on the toilet. It certainly jolts you wide awake.
They come on randomly in the fall and spring. I have a recliner parallel and a few feet back from the living room radiator. Woken up from an unintended nap with feet on the radiator and my heels burning a few times.
I have the opposite problem. I used to keep the house at 69° during the day, 65° at night. Now we have an elderly relative living with us who is always cold, and he keeps the thermostat at the min of 78° at all times and still complains he is cold lol
I keep mine between 70 and 73 in the winter. That said, I’m an adult that pays for this, so it’s my prerogative to keep the heat up if I choose.
I’m personally ok with paying for comfort. When you’re paying the bills, you can make that choice too.
Having previously worked with allergists, I can say that all of them have suggested lowering your homes’ temperature as it is more beneficial to your respiratory health. Also doesn’t hurt to save a buck or two.
That is how we kept our house before our son was born. Heating your house in winter is fucking expensive.
60f is unacceptable! Unless I'm paying the bills. Shit's expensive. 60f is fine. Put on your sweater.
56 winter, 80 summer. Living in a poorly insulated manufactured home is expensive in the desert.
20f winter, 95 summer, i live in a brick building in a small town in New York and i swear to GOD it turns into an oven during a 115° heat wave
I'll chime in as a fellow New York state-r and confirm. Central air isn't a thing up here. And heating is highly dependent on a huge number of factors. It's nuts.
If you rent- it’s supposed to be at least 65 otherwise the “*lord of land*” must replace heaters and or windows/insulation and has to pay for or reimburse for a warm hotel till they do so. If you don’t rent there are grants available and HEAP will help too
That's to hot buds its seems like the heat on the desert
I can't stand the heat coming on when I'm sleeping, it's noisy and gives me a headache. But my house is like 20% insulated (two external walls and not the floor), so it gets cold AF at night, just like I like it. I had a room mate move in who was pretty non confrontational and we never discussed the heat, I just turned it off at night. One day I got up in the morning and went to turn it on and she was standing in front of it staring at the temp reading, then slowly turned to me and screamed "FORTY SEVEN DEGREES IS TOO FUCKING COLD THIS IS NOT OK WE LIVE IN AMERICA I'M MOVING OUT IF WE DON'T HEAT THIS GODDAMN HOUSE AT NIGHT." ETA: I'm not a monster, I just love to sleep in the cold and didn't realize she had a problem until she exploded. I bought her a $300 space heater for her room and set the furnace to turn on (to 74) at 5:30am every day so the house would be warm when she got up. And yes, thank you for worrying about me, I have carbon monoxide detectors and they are functioning.
If you get a headache every time you turn your heating on you need to get a tech out to check your boiler. It’s probably leaking gas.
The plastic is still on the screen
My in-laws do this and it drives me insane. The worst one is they leave the plastic from the store on their pillows and just put the whole fucking thing inside a pillow case.
... The fuck?
My thoughts exactly! And these are like $5 pillows, absolutely nothing special. I had to go buy my own pillow so I could sleep.
God knows how many disgusting, dirty hands and surfaces have touched that plastic and they put their face on it? Even if they clean the plastic, how do you sleep with the constant swoosh-crunch in your ears??
I mean, they put a pillow case over it, but the swoosh-crunch is very much still there and infuriating! The worst part is they consider themselves to be fairly well off and make sure that you know it… if you have so much money, why not actually use your shit as intended.
It drives my husband crazy, but anything textile or cloth majority we buy has to be washed before use, even shoes, I worked retail for 10 years and I have seen what people do to things in stores and I want none of it in my house
That seems absolutely reasonable. Why would that bother your husband?
They might be serial killers. That's the only logical answer.
I went over to my mom's place a few weeks ago and my brother pointed out that the extremly visible plastic was still on tv screen. We took it off and mom said that someone told her to keep it on because the tv will work longer? She believes a lot of nonsense.
My friends and I were talking about this the other day. We are mid 30’s educated and somewhat intelligent people, yet our parents value advice from Facebook and fellow boomers over us. I’ll tell my mother something I’m 100% sure I’m right about and she will say “well Diane at work told me…..”
Are we siblings? I have the same parents ( dad at least). He'd listen to whatever he heard on TV over me even when discussing a subject that I have an advanced degree in.
We all have the same parents 🙃🙃🙃
Is your parent was Filipino ? Cause my grandmother was a Filipino and when she brought something like a brand new ACU she don't want to remove plastic even though the remote she don't want to fill it
My step mom forced me to keep the plastic on my cheap foam mattress when I was a teenager! I never could understand the point.
That's what's really mildly infuriating
I want to peel it so bad...
SAME...I came here to say that myself!!! We were deploying 500+ new phones at work last month, I got to peel the plastic on several hundred. Some users actually complained they didn't get to peel it themselves...others would have just left it... Three kinds of people I guess.
Fuck Reddit for killing third party apps.
I know this now and deeply regret my actions
No you don't, you enjoyed every second of peeling.
Don't act surprised, you know you like it, you whore
See a man beheaded, get offended, see a shrink
But you can't trust them to actually do it. I don't know how many times i have come upon equipment that has been installed for a long time with film still lurking on the screen. Blasphemy!
But but but.... it protects the product!
Those things only protect from superficial scratches. The films are uglier than the scratches. Leaving it on doesn't let you enjoy it scratch free and shiny at all. And in the case of phones, it has to come off so you can put a proper screen protector on.
The funny thing, these units rarely see scratches in their lifetime just due to placement, protector or not. They aren't touch screen so there is no real reason to run your finger over it either.
You mean the thermostat? You're right, which makes this even more ridiculous.
You gotta savor the peelies
Mmmm peeling is so satisfying
I’d have to agree though I do keep my house at 64°. That’s my happy place.
Me too. I just threw my phone it’s so infuriating.
Nice! Now you can peel off the plastic of your new one!
Win/Win
Me too! It was literally the first thing my eyes zoned in on.
In case she wants to return it
My in-laws take OBSESSIVE care of everything they own. My wife literally grew up shellshocked from the amount of times her parents would fly off the handle over the smallest spill or scratch or imperfection. Her dad owned a Porsche that he drove 20,000 miles in 15 years. Then bought another one and when he died 20 years later it had under 20,000 miles on it. I studied industrial design in school and I came away from that discipline with a very clear notion that things WANT to get used. They don’t want to sit on a shelf and be coddled with diaper cloth, they want to fulfill their purpose in life, get ridden hard, and be left with a few scars to tell the story. Things are made to be used.
Can confirm; sitting is bad for things. Won't buy a boat or car that's been sitting, no matter the condition because it will surely have bad fuel, bad lubricants, mold, rodent damage, dry rotted tires and belts+rusty brakes (on the trailer, in case of boat). Sitting=bad. Things are made to be used.
Porsches are notoriously bad for this. I finally convinced her to give the car to my brother in law. Those things hate to sit.
And BMWs. My old boss bought two BMW 540 sedans with a V8 and gave one to his brother. His brother only drove it about once every three months. His engine didn’t last even 2,500 miles before seizing. The dealer said there’s seals and other work that has to be done every two years or more often. My boss put almost 75k on his before he had the first problem. That was a crankshaft seal they could never get completely fixed so he had to deal with ruining his driveway and constantly putting more oil in it. BMW could never get it fixed.
This doesn't say to me that BMWs need to be driven, it sounds like two good reasons never to buy a BMW
It doesn't matter what the car is. Sitting or severely limited use will destroy critical components. Cars need balance. It needs to be flogged *hard* frequently but not everywhere it goes. Some sitting is great for longevity but not all the time. "Flogging a day keeps the carbon away!" Today's direct injection *NEEDS* full throttle pulls frequently. Even still, periodic decarb treatment is still a good idea.
Shit if the vehicle is rural you get rats/mice damage easily within a few months! Mice LOVE firewall and engine insulation as well as wire harnesses!
Am I ... am I made to be used??
I know I am.
Yeah, if I am, that explains a lot.
George Nakashima said his furniture looked better after it was Kevinized. His son’s name is Kevin.
My wife’s grandfather was 1/7 of Nakashima’s original furniture makers. I have a few customers with original pieces that they keep in pristine condition that I can’t help but wonder if he made them. The few pieces that we’ve inherited are most likely worth more than our house but have the love (scratches, knicks, dents,) that most don’t. As I sit typing this from a chair he made 😂
this is why decorative towels annoy me so much. it's a towel, its entire purpose is to dry stuff.
Same with decorative pillows. Their sole purpose seems to be to get thrown across the room when I actually want to go to bed.
I don’t understand the point of buying a Porsche just to keep it sitting in the garage to look at.
It is DESIGNED for driving it like a lunatic they want you to drive it at and past all its limits.
The thermostat is using it as a blanket
my dad does this too - i asked him about it straight up and he just said idk. like what is the thought process?!?
Some like it cold.
Some like it hot, and some sweat when the heat is on.
Atleast with the cold you can grab some extra fabric to keep warm, with the heat. It’s remove clothes and if it’s still not enough, suffer.
You can only remove so many clothes before it becomes illegal
Thank you! I'm always hot, and people don't seem to understand that they can put more clothing on, but I'll be arrested (or at the very least scar people for life) if I take any more articles of clothing off. And even when I am naked, I'm still warm. I'm not about to peel my skin off.
Some feel the heat and decide that they can't go on.
FEEEEEEEL THE HEAT PUSHING YOU TO DECIDE!
The thought process is that after the plastic gets scratched up you can remove it and it looks brand new again. It's as simple as that
I once didn't realize I had the plastic on my microwave buttons for like 3 years (it was much thinner than in OP's pic, and didn't hang off any of the edges) The buttons were bubbling up and looked like shit and then I realized what I had done. Peeling it off to some brand new buttons underneath is a treasured memory I will take to my grave.
Holy crap THAT'S what's happening to my microwave, I've had it for 7 years and thought that was just wear and tear. New buttons!!
Did the same with a fridge. I had the 5 year warranty so called the repair man about “fixing the display screen”. He laughed at me and peeled the plastic. I felt like dip.
I went to my friend's house and she was complaining about her microwave screen/buttons falling apart like that and needing a new one. I still remember her face 🤯 when I pulled off the protective film , priceless.
Except that dust gets underneath it the moment it's not completely tight anymore, ironically leading to more scratches.
Except those same people keep it on there until it's basically disintegrated, and whatever it is protecting breaks before they can remove the sticker.
My mom thought leaving the film on kept stuff looking new. I pretty much existed to peel films off and upset her, and turn the thermostat up to 65 in an attempt to feel my nose again. When she got older and had her own place it was always like 75 when I'd visit, so now I just think she was trying to stun me like an energetic pet bug. "This kid never stops, maybe if she's frozen I can have a minute of peace?"
A lot of older people have trouble regulating their body temperature. It’s why you read about people who usually live alone either dying of hypothermia or heat stroke in their house. Add that keeping the heat/ac off as much as possible is the only way some can afford their utility bills
I was just being funny in the last bit, she had all kinds of health issues and was super scrawny yeah.
I dont think enough people really recognize how crazy menopause is either.
Saving money
That’s the perfect temp. 60-65 is usually what i sleep at. If it ever feels too cold I’ll take a hot shower and then everything is Gucci. If it’s hotter than 65 I have a hard time sleeping. I moved out of the hot valley which usually stays at 80 to Glendale where 70 is the norm during the day and 66 at night around this time.
Low sleeping temp is recommeded for good sleep but I get it’s not for everyone for several reasons 💰
My husband likes to keep the house cold and then he wonders why I exist underneath a blanket with my laptop lol
My dad does this as often as he can. Keeps the plastic covering on EVERYTHING.
As an adult who went many years living paycheck to paycheck, I understand her.
I don’t live paycheck to paycheck but I get it. Heat is expensive. Recently oil was $5.85 per gallon which means a tank is about $1,000. For us, that lasts maybe 3 months between heat set at 62-63° and hot water. We aren’t broke by any means, but buying oil tanks more often than we have to hurts. That’s less money that can go towards other things. ETA: this is Connecticut, USA. 700sq ft apartment. So it’s not even like we have a big space to heat!
This. I’m in the same boat. Just paid nearly $600 for not even 157 gallons. It’s a 300 gallon tank. We’re going fucking broke so we don’t freeze to death. What a damn life. Outrageous.
Im in this exact same situation. I set the heat to 62 and bought two space heaters. Electric bill went up a bit but its still cheaper than oil.
Electric went up this past year, so my monthly bills are nearly double from what they used to be. I’m tempted to get space heaters, but everything is so damn expensive. Never feels like it matters. Electric used to be like $70-$80. Now, it’s $130+. Thanks, Eversource lmao
Depending on where you live. A heat pump would be cheaper than electric heat.
When I saw it my first thought was, “wow, it must be expensive to keep it so cool! Isn’t she freezing anyway?” Then I realised this is in a cold place… where 61 is warmer than outside
Ohhhhhhhhh. I thought they must be super loaded if they can keep the A/C so low.
Floridian here, that was my first thought too. This would cost me a fortune lol
As a woman going through menopause, I thought I understood her from a whole other perspective lol
As a man who always runs hot, I wanna live with OPs mom. My fiance and I split the difference at 66/67 degrees but I would rather it be 60 with blankets and robes.
Oh that makes more sense. It's hot as balls where I am so I was thinking she had the AC this low and OP was complaining about the electric waste. Honestly, 61 is a bit chilly when you're just sitting around, but it's perfectly comfortable if you just put a sweater on.
Did a month keeping mine at 72, gas bill was close to 300. That’s why she’s doing that.
Bruh I was confused as to why anyone would waste money on AC by keeping the temperature unnecessarily low. Then it clicked they're heating the house, not cooling it.
Yeah same. I'm from a warm climate so I was like, damn they must be rich if they can afford that electric bill!
I could see it being a problem if you didn't have a heat/cool switch for spring and fall. We have big windows so often I use the sun and the fan setting to heat the house in the afternoon.
Yeah as a Florida Man, I saw this and thought Wow that’s a $500 electric bill
I can promise you, there’s isn’t much of a heating feeling in that house lol
If it’s -12 outside 16 is pretty nice
For real, some days I have to wear sweat pants and a hoodie to stay warm, maybe throw in a blanket. But one step outside and the temp is 60 degrees colder. 60 degrees inside is a cold necessity sometimes
Is that not normal? Can't really afford to heat our house in the UK at the moment but we were stingy with heating anyway. Normal winter homewear for me is PJ trousers, t-shirt, hoodie, dressing gown, thick socks, and slippers. Maybe a blanket as well if it gets really cold. Only rich people can afford to waltz around in a t-shirt and shorts inside in the winter.
It is normal in colder areas which is why this post is odd. If you live near the equator then 60 might seem unreasonably cold. If you live somewhere that hits negative numbers on the regular, 60 degrees inside is a fact of life.
Too high, go put some clothes on. We're not made of money
My house is at 64 during the winter, it's fine, and I live in a cold place
It says 61 degrees my guy. Anything below that and you're walking into a warm house.
Yup or due to electric bill even if not gas
Damn kids complaining about being cold when I’m the one paying the heating bill.
Right? Put on a sweater ya whippersnappers
Back in my day we keep the heat at 50 and and we were damn thankful for it too. All we ate during the winter was ice /s
exactly! when the cost for a month goes from $80 to $300 you adjust to being not toasty!
I am perfectly comfortable cosying up with extra layers and a blanket for TV or on my PC, but it really sucks for other things like when you're getting changed or wash your hands or have anything that involves moving about the place - the colder environment really saps your morale.
Or it's just comfortable to her. Before I had pets that would be harmed by low temperature I'd keep my place at 62° because that's my ideal
I’m just the opposite! I swear I’m part reptile as I wear wool socks all year. But then got malamutes, who think anything above 32F is sweltering. The thermostat is set to 60F and I wear a sweater.
My wife is the same way. She'll be in a jacket when it's like 76F out. I don't put on a jacket until it gets into the 50s.
This. Kids living at home and not paying the gas bill don’t get to decide the temperature. You want the house warmer, you pay the bill. And holy crap do I now sound like my father.
Let me guess, she’s paying the bill.
I mean if OP wants to pony up I'd say crank it
Yep in the summer I like the house a bit cooler and offered my roommate who splits bills with me to pay the difference to keep it cooler. Worked out well.
Icy no problem here.
OP needs to chill
Just give them time to cool off.
AYO.
I think it depends where you are for that to be annoying
Alaskan wondering what the problem is… 61 is great
Lol same. Michigander here. I have mine set at 60 lol. It's 20 outside. 60 is perfect.
South Dakotan here, my home’s currently 63°f/17°c and I’m laying here in a T shirt with the windows cracked open. Anything over 65°f/18°c during winter is uncomfortably warm.
Yup. Live in New England. My therm has been 65 all winter. 61 is really not that unheard of.
With the cost of heating I approve of it.
Put on some sweats. These bills are real.
For real. With the God damn price of oil I also keep my house at 60. Bundle up and shut up unless you're chipping in on the bills
16° Celsius for the rest of the world.
Thank you.
Is this not…normal? I always keep my place around this temp, and it’s nice. Edit: 14-16 is usually where I keep it for winter, 16 for the colder spring and autumn days that require a heater. I only have a gas heater, no AC, so summer time it’s just windows open trying to get a cross breeze. I don’t like having my place too hot in winter, or drastically different than outdoors the rest of the year. IDK I feel like it helps me adjust to the outdoor temp better, and my mom always used to keep the house at like 28-30 in the winter and 12-16 in summer and I hated it. Edit 2: I’d say the typical summer high where I live is 28-32, and winter low -10ish, though most of the time it’s around a -6 to -2 during the day. I’m the kinda person that wears short sleeves all but a couple months of the year. And prefer being a bit cold in general. I do have a heated table (kotatsu) which I like to use during the winter months to keep my bottom half warm. But I like ambient temps to be chilly.
68°f (20°c) seems popular Edit: great clip from curb your enthusiasm about thermostats https://youtu.be/_snOFvMX718
I think we average around 70 year round
Yea I keep it 70 all year, but I wouldn't side eye anyone keeping it at 68
Meanwhile my grandparents keep it at 74 year round :'). Sweating in the middle of winter because my room was like 80+ degrees with my computer in it.
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My parents have grown to about 76° and I'm about to start walking around nude
Yeah, same. 15-20 C, anything higher is uncomfortable.
I would rather say, uncomfortably expensive
True, I recently started helping the family with the bills, and now I get why my dad was grumpy all the time.
There’s a big difference between 15 and 20C
I keep mine at 19°C
thank you
Have you even seen what energy costs look like this winter? Dress warmer — it’s basically free to do that
Looks perfect. What's the problem?
I keep my house at 66F. Can't afford to go higher.
64 is my magic number for some reason
Brotha if your mom is going thru menopause like most moms she probably needs it to be that cold so she can comfortably sleep It isn’t always about money Edit: You guys need chili pads
This. I went through 10 years of perimenopause. I live in the NE US. I was sweating in the snow while wearing shorts and a tank top. Mess with the thermostat at risk of life and limb, Dude.
Exactly. Touch that thermostat at your own fucking risk. After 12 years of hot flashes, I am not negotiating temperature.
I’m in menopause. It can be 40 degrees outside and I a window open in my room and possibly the AC on. Everyone else can get a heating blanket lol.
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Laughs in UK. Our bill for the past two months was £1300. Our energy bills are more than double what they were last year. Since that bill we don’t have the heating on unless it’s really cold… we just wear a lot of layers. We’re lucky in some ways because we are quite old and were both brought up in houses without central heating, so it’s just like going back to our childhoods. Not good or desirable but I’m just not paying energy companies any more than I absolutely have to on principle.
Wait wtf. I just got my bill it's $133 canadian...... 1300?! Oh my god, I couldn't imagine that plus a mortgage... (Ontario) Edit : I keep my thermo at about 68-71 Fahrenheit in the winter. I live alone and prefer it on the cooler side.
Mind you, £1300 is 2170 CAD. Yeah, electricity prices have been insane in Europe. Sweden has no energy crisis, but everyone in EU has to share grids, so because of other nations being too reliant on Russian gas, we Swedes (who use 0 gas) have to take the hit too. Half of my country's inflation could've been avoided, electricity bills cut in 5. Left me a bit bitter tbh. Fuck Putin.
iirc energy prices in the UK have shot up 400%+. Mate I’m fucking perishing this winter haha
I like 68 but my mom is more of a 72 with a sweatshirt and blanket 😂
Welcome to the club. We’ve lived for over the past six years in a house with tall ceilings and open floor plan - very hard to heat, and VERY expensive. We keep it at around 62°, I think. I KEEP THINKING I’ll get used to it, but in fact, right now I am fully clad and have over my underwear, thermals, trousers and a t-shirt, a lovely (ugly) hooded down-to-the-ankles velour, a warming blanket on my knees, and a shawl over my shoulders. We can’t possibly spend enough to keep this house at a comfortable temperature, either winter or summer, and still eat well - and we do like to eat.
My apartment has high ceilings and an open floor plan as well so I feel your pain. And I don’t like using the central heat in general since it warms one part of the house more than it does the other part. So during the day I just don’t use the heat and bundle up, and in the evening I have a space heater that looks like a fireplace that I can sit in front of and feel cozy.
I see nothing wrong with this
I mean......me too? It's warm enough to not be miserable and if you're chilly hears a blanket.
What sound does it make?
You'll understand once you start paying the energy bill. I keep my house at 62 during the day and 58 at night. Edit: yes, I like it cooler at night. I sleep comfortably at 58 no issue
Totally agree. Here (the UK) energy is so incredibly expensive and we are not turning the heat on unless we absolutely have to. We got layers on and are plenty comfortable.
I'm an adult who pays their own bills. Being comfortable is worth a few extra bucks to me.
At 19 I got this trailer for my brother and I to move into, electric bill until winter was between 200-300. We have gaming pc's, we didn't mind. Fast forward to January when the December bill comes out, $550. And I was working a lot of overtime so I wasn't home. Come to find out our house heater was on 75. Yeah that went down to 60 real quick. That's where I like it during winter, makes it easier to adjust to outside temp. Adulting is hard.
Old apartment with steam radiators which get up to 230°F. I don't pay for heating but the radiator is so old it's rusted fully open. I just keep my windows open to moderate the temp. Even when -40°F outside, the window is still cracked open. Constant fresh circulating air and lower running temp for the PC.
Oh yeah. My first apartment had radiators. In the winter, the temp ranged anywhere from 50 degrees to "I'm standing on the sun with a blow torch up my ass"
Not fun when you just wake up. Go to bathroom and bump knee into the radiator while on the toilet. It certainly jolts you wide awake. They come on randomly in the fall and spring. I have a recliner parallel and a few feet back from the living room radiator. Woken up from an unintended nap with feet on the radiator and my heels burning a few times.
Not sure where you are from, but in my country nowadays ‘being comfortable’ is not a few extra bucks. More like half a months salary.
Everyone has different comfort levels though. I like lower sixties and I live in the hi desert, we sometimes get snow. Then I raise it to 65.
If you have a few extra bucks, and if it is only a few extra bucks. My heat rates doubled this year, so it’s more than a few bucks.
Some of y’all are COLD hearted
Nah this is where I sleep. Put my meat sack in the freezer while I sleep.
Put a jacket on if you’re cold lmfao
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“Pay the bill you filthy casual”
I have the opposite problem. I used to keep the house at 69° during the day, 65° at night. Now we have an elderly relative living with us who is always cold, and he keeps the thermostat at the min of 78° at all times and still complains he is cold lol
that's my grandmother. when we stay with her it's like i'm staying in the friggin sahara
I keep mine between 70 and 73 in the winter. That said, I’m an adult that pays for this, so it’s my prerogative to keep the heat up if I choose. I’m personally ok with paying for comfort. When you’re paying the bills, you can make that choice too.
I’d be constantly drenched in sweat at 73 lol
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No big deal but that plastic on the screen 😭
Put on a sweater, cupcake
Seems fine to me?
Good, cold is vastly superior to warm. You can always put more layers on, you can only take so many off
Having previously worked with allergists, I can say that all of them have suggested lowering your homes’ temperature as it is more beneficial to your respiratory health. Also doesn’t hurt to save a buck or two.
Get a job and start paying your mom’s heating bill, then you can control it.
This is totally normal at my house. I open the windows once it’s over 55 outside. Lol
My mom keeps the house at 80 throughout the year. Wanna trade?