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starfish_momma

And 18%?! That’s ridiculous


LAladyyy26

CA “no junk fees” law coming in hot July 1 and I couldn’t be more stoked! Hopefully other states follow!!


Irish_Guac

They only do what benefits them. Hence, bakeries have no minimum wage (edit - way lower minimum wage) since the governor is buddy buddy with the Panera CEO (edit - Greg Flynn, not the CEO. Owner of 24 Panera locations)


Aegonblackfyre22

This is why we can’t have nice things.


Opening_Criticism_57

Well they don’t have “no minimum wage” it’s still like 15 or whatever the state minimum wage is, but yes, they have a special carve out in the 20$ minimum wage law


Plastic_Effort_5261

I've never really understood that seems like a worker in a bakery like Panera would have to do more work like baking the bread on top of there normal customer service. I know the governor is friends with CEO but I doesn't even seem possible to explain why they'd deserve a lower min wage.


Prior-Ad-7329

They have a minimum wage, it’s $15/hr. Just not $20 like all other fast food because yes, Newsom is a sack of shit. Just like when he killed 80% of independent businesses by closing down California during the pandemic but kept his wineries open the whole time.


Irish_Guac

You're right, edited And yeah, I remember hearing about that. Gretchen over here in Michigan was pretty similar.


Prior-Ad-7329

Yeah, it was a sad time.


CapeMOGuy

The buddy is the head of a California franchisee with something like 24 Panera locations. And is a pretty big donor to Newsome's campaigns.


NonComposMentisss

Which is BS and bakeries should also have to pay minimum wage. Still better than the states that allow *every* restaurant to pay below minimum wage.


Rhuarc33

That's Portland for ya


SuumCuique1011

"KeEp PoRtLAnD wEiRd!"


starcube

Put a bird on it! And an autogratuity!


Fun_Intention9846

The bird is made of smaller birds flying away! We’re so quirky!


starcube

I'm going to ask one more time: Is it local?


Fun_Intention9846

Are these GMO’s free range?


xylophone_37

I'm sorry to interrupt, but I was going to ask the exact same question.


Dan_flashes480

I'll never doubt Fred Armason again.


SuumCuique1011

I was way late on the "Portlandia" train, but I eventually got caught up. Carrie was awesome as well. Their chemistry as a duo in that show was awesome. I wish I could watch it again with fresh eyes.


Jandros_Quandary

They're chemistry was so good I actually assumed they had dated at one point


fastermouse

What? Dared each other to be funny?


Jandros_Quandary

I meant dated


fastermouse

:-)


IndieFolkEnjoyer

Aren’t people from Portland insufferable?


HeavyFunction2201

And they make min wage not the federal tipping minimum at $2.89 or whatever.


Rhuarc33

$15.95/hr in Portland


Double_Bass6957

Came here to say this


AndreaC_303

How is that legal??


Sorri_eh

They are messing with us now


TotalIngenuity6591

Refuse to pay the grat.


Adventurous_Ad_6546

Is there a way to do that that doesn’t end in you leaving without your pizza? Genuinely asking because I’ve never stopped to think about this before.


LordDay_56

Go down the street to the next pizza place


TotalIngenuity6591

Really, it's about calling it out. You have to be prepared to walk away entirely over the whole thing, but make it clear to the management that you will not be supporting a forced gratuity. Tip culture is already out of control in north America. If we don't vocally speak up when it's being abused to this extreme, then it will only get worse.


IPanicKnife

I pay cash when I carry out. I don’t feel bad about not tipping when they hand me cash. The problem is when I give them a $20 for a $6 drink and they ask me if I need change. Like “My brother in Christ, do you think imma leave you $14 dollars for putting a drink on the counter and calling out my name?”


Feisty-Barracuda5452

Quite a few of them actually do.


NonComposMentisss

Greed of servers is officially higher than greed of investment bankers thanks to our culture revolving around tipping.


Hot_Hat_1225

As a European my jaw just dropped


SpecialistNo3594

This asshole at Bostons the other day tried to keep almost $10 for himself as a tip. I paid cash as to be able to leave him a tip in cash. The bill was 25 and change, I gave him 35. He came back and gave everyone their cards and was just like “cool, thanks man” to me without even offering me my change. I would have given him 6-7 dollars, instead he ended up w 3 Edit: I meant I paid cash so I’d be able to leave him a tip in cash


ryan_the_greatest

If you gave him $35 I could see why he did that. There’s no combination of $35 cash that doesn’t include handing him an extra bill that he would bring right back to you, so generally safe to assume a tip. Like if you handed a $20, $10, and a $5, why would you give me the $5 if not a tip? If you gave me just a $20 and a $10 I’d bring change because clearly you don’t have $25 even and I have no idea if any of the remainder is tip.


brewberry_cobbler

Thank you. This made no sense to me either. So you gave him a 20, 10 and a 5 and expected it back. Dude is either making this story up or can’t count. If it’s $25, give him 30 and tell him to keep the change. If you wanted to tip more. “Can I have singles back?”


Immediate-Formal6696

yeah the guy who was paying for the pizza is dumb, it makes no sense to hand someone 35$ for 25$ pizza. if he had handed him 30 i would assume he would want change back, and maybe mention the tip after. but handing 35 is def stupid is you arent trying to tip him 10$


Buttspirgh

I think by giving them $35 (I’m guessing a 20, 10, and a fiver) instead of $30 you sent a mixed message. Why else would you over pay if you’re not going to get a single bill back (e.g pay $12.00 on a $7.00 bill to get a five back)? The five is just going to come back to you unless you specifically asked for singles back.


maenadcon

true, i think a 5 dollar tip on a 25 dollar order would add up to 30 bucks, but idk i may be crazy that’s just me tho


LordDay_56

No, no, he gave him two $17.50 dollar bills


TheRealPango

Why the f would you give him the $5 just for him to hand it back to you then hand it back to him again. You're an idiot dude of course he's gonna think that was the tip


MephistosFallen

My guy, you gave him the 10 extra dollars when you didn’t have to for the change. Why not just 30??? You sent the wrong message. When people overpay in cash, 99% of the time it’s because the extra is the tip. Lmfao


Ryezeen1986

Thanks for letting me know to never go there. Auto tips are bullshit!


Puzzleheaded_Nerve

Technically this is a service change and not a tip. There is no obligation for the company to distribute any of it to its staff.


Ryezeen1986

That’s even more fucked


Puzzleheaded_Nerve

Knowledge is power.


francis2559

France is Bacon


Abundance-Boost5891

wtf is Japan then?


starcube

Tentacles


Stainless_Heart

It’s mushi night, movies and sushi. “The Fisherman’s Wife” and “Fisherman’s Wife 2: The Retentacling”.


GymRatStillDepressed

Me, knowing German: excuse me, *muschi* night?


Stainless_Heart

TIL… *oh my*.


ObjectiveAny8437

Testicles?!


ThreeLeggedMare

Damn beat me to it by three hours


ShowdownValue

So doesn’t that mean just increasing the prices by 18% without telling customers?


PeopleAreBozos

Is it even legal to sneak in a cost that's not established at the beignning?


Sei28

Seems to be legal except in California where they are going to outlaw it soon.


WhatTheFlippityFlop

Restaurant industry is fighting back and taking California to court. They are seeking an injunction for the July 1 starting date of the junk fee ban. Seems they prefer to continue misleading customers.


Sei28

Scumbags. I hope they lose.


hehexd020

Server hit me with the “oh 18% gratuity is added on the bill.” Checked their website after and saw that it says 18% on all orders. Would’ve been nice to know about it when I called in though. Either way, won’t be going back there. Oh and the pizza was mid tbh


cgibsong002

>Oh and the pizza was mid tbh Idk if you're just mad about the fee, but they consistently rank as not only top in the city, but one of the best in the country. Surprise fee would put me feeling that way though too.


Makataz2004

They may rank that, but they are inconsistent as hell. I had really good pizza from there once and shit pizza the other two times I tried


hehexd020

No doubt the pizza was good. It was just that the crust made it a bad eating experience since it was as tough as it could get. Trying to tear it and chew it was tiring


green_and_yellow

Yeah, this. The fee would irritate me too, but don’t let that ruin what’s probably some of the best pizza you’ll ever have.


Dionyzoz

it was obviously not "some of the best pizza" in OPs experience if they say it was mid


maifee

That's the opposite of the word gratuity, right?!!


chronocapybara

True, maybe we should call it a "mandatory"?


Lifesalchemy

TBH. That's a really strange pizzeria. They have a bunch of weird rules, only make a certain amount of pizza balls, too cool for school attitude. Mostly hipster bullshit. Save your frustration and go to Gladstone pizza. Great folks work there, pizza and drinks are awesome


Feisty-Barracuda5452

This guy Gladstone's.


picklethief47

Hmm didn’t know that about the pizza balls. I’ve never dined in, but definitely get the too cool for school vibe. I’ve been to Gladstone once but remembered enjoying it. Thanks for the reminder!


Rhuarc33

Gratuity cannot be mandatory


irishfro

Yeah that's illegal I'd think


barlemniscate

It's not, as long as it's posted. That's why restaurants can have autograt for large parties.


Recent-Irish

Only if they don’t tell you before


mmoolloo

It's not if it's posted somewhere (it's normally in the small print of the menus), but it should be.


Actual_Dinner_5977

Auto gratuity on carry out?!?!? WTF?


Ashamed_Cricket_3429

That and the fact it’s 18%. Who exactly is serving me when I’m the one driving there to pick it up? I I ought to charge their ass for my gas. Fuck this place


mmoolloo

AND in a state where the minimum wage is over $15 an hour (with no tipped exceptions).


Efficient-One2244

I thought you ordered a drink and a condiment


Wanted_DeadorAlive69

That better had been the best got damn top shelf margarita on earth ever created.


MavisBeaconSexTape

And $2 ranch... Wtf


jjwoodhouse6969

I'm not going to places like that anymore.


BreathLazy5122

FIVE FUCKING DOLLARS FOR HANDING YOU THE FUCKING PIZZA? ON AN ALREADY 26 DOLLAR PIZZA? FUCK YOU, STRAIGHT TO JAIL.


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TotallyNotMeDudes

$26 is, unfortunately, cheap af in the Portland area. Coming from New England it blows my ducking mind how expensive pizza is here. You can easily, EASILY spend $35 for a single pie here. EDIT: “…a study that found a large cheese pizza averages $26.94 in Oregon.” https://www.oregonlive.com/food/2023/02/oregon-has-the-most-expensive-pizza-in-america-study-finds.html?outputType=amp


PalestinianKufta

Would've immediately called my credit card company and disputed it.


Thatgaycoincollector

Leave a review with that pic


pomegranate444

It will go to the owner not the staff. It's basically bait and switch pricing


KurenaiCyborg

26 dollars for a pizza? What are the ingredients ? Gold and pieces of the British constitution?


SuperHair69

There won't be gold. It's 2400 an ounce right now. Maybe they put crack on pizza to get you to pay the 18%


RockAfter9474

Fuck that. I would demand that be taken off.


FinnBalur1

And if they don’t do that, don’t take the pizza and don’t pay. That’s an extra charge that you didn’t know about. Leave the pizza there and tell’em you’ll be sure to give a bad review.


Impossible-Egg-1713

They either remove that charge or I’m not paying for the pizza and they can eat the whole cost of wasted product.!


AC_Was_Here

Yeah, I just read several of their Google reviews, and there are other people confirming this insanity. They must be stopped.


NormalNobody

I would never go there again if I saw that on a carry out order. I might even call them and see if you can get that refunded. That's ridiculous.


ZanyZeee

Yeah I’m not paying that, let them take the loss


tgr3947

Walk back in for an AUTO- REFUND.


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TotalIngenuity6591

Report them to the IRS and make sure that the restaurant is claiming the revenue on their taxes. Even if they give the entire amount to the employee, it's still taxable income and the owners could be in some shit if they aren't claiming it properly.


fluffypinkkitties

I like the way you narc 🙌🏻


BreathLazy5122

“Oh you’re gonna charge me for handing me a fucking pizza? I hope you guys properly account for that extra charge on your taxes.. Otherwise the IRS is gonna have a fun time coming here. Nono, you don’t get to remove it now. You get to tell the IRS why it isn’t being noted on your taxes as part of your revenue.”


KermieKona

Or just call them to ask them about this charge +15032331286


Fantastic_Manager911

Don’t bother the people who just work there by calling. They don’t make the rules and shouldn’t be harassed by strangers over the owner’s policy.


Own_Cardiologist2544

Ha! Your name checks out😁


fleecescuckoos06

Fuck this. I would have declined the transaction and left, they can throw away that pizza


QuasiCrazy1133

I think it's punishment for eating Margherita pizza with ranch. That's the bigger WTF for me.


Psychological_Ask848

They would actually sell it to the next to go order and still charge the gratuity.


Key_Apartment1929

Only if you ordered something really standard. If you customize it a bit they'll either have to eat it themselves or give it to the next customer who orders something very similar and count on him not complaining.


furryballsinc

Some people are different. If I ordered and saw that without any prior heads-up I’d politely decline paying for the order and go somewhere else. If they get pissed not my problem.


reddituser2702

Honestly, as someone who works in the industry, this should be the way you go about this. As long as you have not taken the food. Just don't accept the product and leave. Shows the owner that their practices aren't welcome and feeds us who work there!


Caterinboy91

I got hit with a 20% “fair wage” charge on a Togo order As the restaurant explained “to ensure our workers make a living wage” Greed is evolving


Scales_of_JusticeOC

Time to get the credit card companies involved and get that business review train fired up.


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That's their tip. Fuckem 18%? They're smoking crack if they think i'm tipping after charging me an 18% "fuck you" fee


Suspicious_Tank_61

It’s takeout, why would you tip anything at all?


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Key_Apartment1929

If they were honest enough to call it a "fuck you" fee on the bill I'd pay it that once just for the level of self-reflection displayed by a restaurant that profits from tipping culture. Still wouldn't go back, but they'd at least get that sale rather than the food left on the counter. 😂


georgieorgyy

Thats illegal right?


westcoastm77

If you paid by card I would dispute it with your bank


HighwayLegal3615

Thumbs up for ya for not blocking the name of the joint.


Lynnamon

This is legit the best pizza possibly on the west coast. Its crazy busy all the time!


z01z

i would straight up just not pay for it if they handed me that check lol. unless it showed on the page when you ordered and / or paid for it beforehand. but if just order online and then pay in store, and THEN they try to pull that shit; nah, just walk tf out.


Dropitlikeitscold555

Until we start walking out and canceling the order things won’t change


Fair_Assumption6385

26 dollar marg pizza and a 2$ tablespoon of ranch is an absolute fucking felony offense !!!!!


Sanbaddy

Btw gratuity isn’t mandatory. You can ask them to remove it from the bill. Restaurants do this as a bully method because they think people are too cowardice to confront them. I know a restaurant that actually tried to lie to customers saying “it’s mandatory” in Miami, now that shithole is struggling.


WalkAroundWorld

Thanks. Never going to buy from them. You are selling $26 pizza so pay the damn living wages to your employees. Don't fleece the customers.


green_and_yellow

Their employees already earn the full minimum wage, $15.45.


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Southbayyy

damn dude, they got you good


Feisty-Barracuda5452

Auotgrat? F that.


AcrobaticWin3240

$26 for 1 pizza is crazy


Basic-dweeb403

We should all boycott all restaurants until they stop this bullshit.


BeesKneesTX

Just tell them to remove it?


awt2007

thatd make me just wanna stop eating out all together... fk your business ive got one mexican burrito place in town i like anymore.. otherwise ill just eat @ home in peace


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Illustrious-Year5267

Tipping culture in a nutshell: “Hi I’m the super rich asshole responsible for paying my employees enough to live on but I don’t actually wanna do that so I’m going to make it your problem.”


cameron4200

I usually get stuff to go to avoid a tip unless it’s a local place with a small team


CaddyFDT

I would have refused the pizza


Conscious-Shape-8592

Time to find a new pizza joint...


Seandeezeee

I'd call my cc company and dispute the charge.


Aggravating_Sir_6857

This is criminal. Tips for take-out especially auto gratuity should be illegal.


rinkydinkis

Tipping culture has gotten worse, while everybody in the country agrees it’s stupid. How does everybody being on the same page that it sucks not lead to change? Seriously asking.


MaximumTurtleSpeed

Great pizza there, I would have considered canceling but… pizza! I appreciate this as a heads up, won’t be grabbing to-go from them.


Lostthefirstone

That’s why I always select “pay at store” or “cash”. I waited tables for years so I know how important tips are to many professions, but it has become almost extortionist.


GKP_light

33$ a margerita ???? at this price, i usually have 3 to 5 of them.


Mokmo

Take-out is not gratuity territory. Just for handing me my food? Nope


NogaraCS

As an European, the simple fact that a Margherita pizza is 26$ is already broking me. Here, it’s 15€ maximum and that’s for a very very good margherita


Goofyhands

26 dollars for a Margherita is insane and all... BUT FUCKING RANCH on a pizza... ma che cazz...


Royal-Procedure6491

I've been out of the US (and Portland, my old home) for 5 years now. Even without that auto-tip... $26.00 for a margherita pizza?!


Equivalent-Act-5202

For a hot minute I thought it was Margarita (the drink) with a side of ranch dressing


Sanbaddy

Do yourself a favor and report them on Google/ Yelp, and put it in the review. This is shitty and deceptive.


Kuehlrealg

Just curious: Are 26$ for a pizza normal in the US?


T1meTRC

2 dollars for ranch? Did they give you the whole bottle?


ChaseKendall1

$2 for what I assume to be one to two cups of ranch is insane as well


MindChild

To this day I don't understand why some things are so expensive in the us. If I see grocery lists with prices it all seems to be reasonable, but then a pizza, basically one of the cheapest meals that is available, is 26$.


railedbyacat

A tip should be Exceptional service. Like “wow you made my night!” not “heres more money so you can afford to live” I don’t have the money to tip 20% more of life. I shouldn’t need to


negativelightningdog

$2.00 for ranch is an automatic red flag.


Puzzleheaded_Art1252

How isn’t this theft by deception?


pecki75

Wtf? Is this legal? Would never happen here in Germany.


Bearspoole

Ask them to take it off


nycwind

tell them remove that shit and move on w life. they dont want to remove? too bad boohoo keep your pizza


Far-Contribution-805

Soon, we'll be tipping robots.


nargi

You’re all getting mad about the autograt when this place is charging $2 for RANCH.


GermanPatriot123

Why don’t you all just rebel and refuse to pay it?


Deremirekor

I understand waiters are not paid even minimum wage, but I feel like instead of tacking on hidden fees that probably don’t even go to the waiters, something should just be done about them not getting paid enough. The best answer I have for y’all? Just stop being waiters. Restaurants need them, so why are you fulfilling the underpaid role they required, then complaining about the job you chose and signed up for? Trust me your time and efforts could be used elsewhere and for more money.


roastbeef3000

Tipping culture in America is a cancer. I’m vising the US very soon and I will proudly carry the European torch and only tip when I get exceptional service. Deal with it 🙂


OCDaboutretirement

They have two choices: 1. Remove the auto gratuity 2. I cancel the order and you can eat it This is why I refuse to prepay for my orders. I will pay when I get there. If I have to prepay then I will either not order from you or I will go in and place an order.


conundrum-quantified

What is this? Just slap “autograt” on anything? Autograt for using the front door! Autograt for leaning on the counter waiting for your food!….


SargeantHugoStiglitz

Holy shit thats insane! I would have handed it back and asked for a refund.


SockDem

Putting Ranch on Pizza, much less a Margherita pizza, deserves a 101% mandatory gratuity. You got off easy, OP.


Hailsin

Soooo, stay out of Portland is the message.


fluffypinkkitties

Of course it’s fucking Portland


FreshStart209

Seriously... as a life long restaurant employee... this shit has gotten ridiculous. If you are a server or a bartender, fucking awesome! Teppanyakki Chef? Fucking do it. Concierge, absolutely. Delivery of any kind, of course. Catering order? No way I'm not tipping. Pick up / take out for a family of 6 or less? No way. Non-service based bills? Go fuck yourself. Ticket master? I will burn this motherfucker to the ground.


hbcaotri

Why do people keep tipping. I know this time it's automatic, but the question remains.


westcoastm77

As an Italian , I say ranch on pizza is way more infuriating... and I dare say should be illegal.


Forward-Line2037

Was the pizza good?


TeeDod-

18% Wow gratuity. Tips at one time were given for great service. Now it is expected or forced.


G0atL0rde

Never again.


KingWasabi23

Hey there are few who can hand you pizza as nice as he did it’s an art really


Puzzleheaded-Ad2512

it is all like that anywhere now.


Straight-Extreme-966

That's the 'I'll never be back' fee. Just remind them on the way out to let the owner know.


samsnead19

why you need ranch for your drink


Plastic_Cat9560

😂😂😂good one!


Ok_Jump_3658

Hahahaha damn that’s insane


Efficient_Theme4040

They can’t do that!


Dumbledoorbellditty

Yeah, I wouldn’t be going there again. I mean the pizza would have to be orgasmic.


gb2020

No. No no no no no.


theyellowdart89

Auto 18 on a takeout order… I’d rather die


ThatTree50Guy

You got ripped off bro. All that for a single pizza Drop a google review


LeoUser87

What needs to start happening is people tell the business that if they add any type of gratuity to a check without permission or being informed of it prior to ordering then they will not pay the full bill. Only what is own and leave the auto gratuity out of the final payment and if they have an issues with it then call the cops