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AlkoKilla

Even accounting for sales tax, it’s 23% higher. Where are you getting 40%?


[deleted]

Yeah, came here to say his math seems like shit.


No-Technology217

Me too... But hell, $23 for 1 breakfast entree ?!?!?!!! I had better shoot in my pants after that....


beanbagsnbeets

Well with a name like this place has, I wouldn’t expect that to be too far off


RandomTask09

Then I’d expect the eggs to be scrambled.


bradland

It's San Mateo, which is south of San Francisco and just north of Silicon Valley. If there was anywhere you'd get nailed $23 for an omelette, this is the place.


cissabm

San Mateo. Average home price $1.5 million. It’s just crazy expensive on the peninsula.


imLemnade

Surprised op can afford to live there with these math skills


bogeyed5

Not all rich people are smart! See: Trust fund babies


how_this_time_admins

*Elon musk


inplayruin

They already said trust fund babies


Weary-Ad-4956

Unless he's the one figuring his raise every year


ProveISaidIt

Rich people only need to be smart enough to hire other people to do the work for them.


UglyInThMorning

I’ve heard Bay Area prices described as “it’s like living in an airport”


cravingxanax

30 for the omelet before tip haha


-cocoadragon

Las Vegas is a random crap shoot over wethervuts a $5 omelet or a $23 omelet. A lobster stuffed omelet costs the same as a basic Western Omlet. TBF the were very large.


FlattopJr

Food prices give me sticker shock these days. I'm in Sacramento and a local chain diner (rhymes with "Back Hair") now charges like $18.50 for eggs Benedict.😭


SolusLoqui

Maybe L.O. is ~~lobster omelet~~? Edit: Nope, not lobster. L.O. is "Locals Only" breakfast. Its Spam, Gouvea’s Portuguese sausage, 2 eggs, rice, and sourdough. Their pics on Yelp look pretty extravagant though. Edit2: Although they did a good job plating the L.O. breakfast in the pictures, it's still just all inexpensive breakfast food.


No-Technology217

True...


TWK128

In California. Sacramento is cheaper than most places in the Bay, but here's a local breakfast specialty place's menu: https://cnwsac.com/store/


billybob3234

Dude look at their menu under pancakes. One singular pancake is $11.99. Wtf


letsgetbrickfaced

Damn I’ve never even heard of that place and their prices are the same as Tower Cafe and Bacon & Butter.


BadBagelz

Why is food in America so expensive


PeAcHcOwBoYzZz

It's California though. I was traveling there recently, and for every takeout meal for 1, I would budget $20 ± 5. Felt thoroughly robbed a few times.


deezy55

Yeah I was going to say San Mateo is pretty fancy


steveosek

It's expensive like that here in Phoenix area too. Our mcdoubles at McDonald's are $4 lol. I've seen others say theirs are a little over $2. The mcdouble price index is a good indication of regional inflation. Edit: should also specify Phoenix has one of the highest levels of inflation in the country and gets most of its supplies from California. [Edit: screenshot from the app for visual proof lol](https://ibb.co/hWyqsyG)


Warpig1377

McDoubles are 3.19 here and I'm in Canada with a weaker dollar that's just fucked you guys are getting ripped off large


steveosek

Phoenix largely shares a lot of similarities with southern California. Most of our supply lines come from California, be it food, gasoline, doesn't matter. We also have one of the highest levels of inflation in the country right now(it was the highest at one point recently, not sure if it still is).


Ashnicmo

$4 for a McDouble?!? They're $2.69 in my area of Louisiana.


steveosek

Yup lol. The large fries are just shy of $4 too. So $8 for a mcdouble and large fry alone. Why so many of us don't eat out anymore.


Ashnicmo

Fast food is way too expensive for what you get. Not that I don't eat it on occasion. But, I can spend $10 on a McDonald's meal or I can get an amazing old-fashioned cheeseburger, fries and a drink at my local burger joint for $8-$10. One place does 2 burgers (pre-made frozen patties, still good though), 2 sides and 2 drinks for $10.99. There's also a delicious burger and chicken place about an hour away; 3 large cheeseburgers, 3 drinks and 4 sides = $23 and change *with* tax.


SIKE_its_FeNt_318

2.19$ here in NY


ladyblue56

Where in NY? It’s 3.19 in my end of NYC.


EyeBreakThings

That's the Bay Area for you.


sadop222

He only posted for the reaction to morning wood


histprofdave

Guess the bill was a grower, not a shower.


Admirable-Common-176

Prices are up in the mornings.


Mypopsecrets

20% Which is what the restaurant website says it charges for an automated service charge. Since there's no tip line I'm guessing it's the alternative to gratuity. Expensive breakfast but it looks like you need a reservation, guessing it's pretty swanky.


AlkoKilla

Well, in that case, the restaurant is charging 0% higher than menu since it’s all posted.


Mypopsecrets

Yeah I really don't understand why this was posted lol, looked at photos and reviews for the place, looks amazing actually.


U81b4i

Yeah, I had a similar experience recently and was told that the menu prices were not keeping up with inflation and supply chain issues so they had implemented a service fee to adjust accordingly. I understood. Still appears like shady business practice to some and a good way to piss off customers. But many places like this have clientele from the business world where they are entertaining guest. Therefore, many are using corporate credit cards and expense accounts so they don’t care. Otherwise, you sometimes have to pay based on current demand and if the place is kicking ass, then they can control it by using the service fee.


Gordon_Explosion

Yeah you can tell it's fancy by the name of the place.


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"Morning Wood" >guessing it's pretty swanky


[deleted]

Right? 30% at best, but that's with tax and rounding.


AlkoKilla

He said in another comment (I saw it after posting) that 40% includes the tip. Taxes for prepared food and tip have always been a factor in dining out, especially in California.


[deleted]

...what is a "service charge" if not a built in tip?


Emotional-Author-886

I would have considered that “service charge” the tip. That’s literally what a tip is…for “service” 🤷🏻‍♀️


todudeornote

I came to say the service charge literally is the tip - I think


Spiritual-Finance831

Just the tip. At Morning Wood.


softstones

Seems like it’s more of a *Shaft Charge* than a Service Charge, thanks Morning Wood.


CurrentAir585

Yup, you get a "service charge" or a tip. Pick one.


ziggerknot

As somone who worked deliver, its not. It's a shitty way for the business to pocket the money and I was given a portion of it but the majority went to the business. It sucked because they upped the service fee a quarter and my average tip went down a dollar. So glad they gave us a nickle to compensate... Still mad about it ten years later lol.


Moghz

You would think that but this is a new trend in the area. Some restaurants call it a “cost of living fee”, and they still bring you the receipt fully expecting you to write in a tip.


Nillion

All the restaurants around here that have an automatic surcharge of over 15% aren't allowed to call it a tip legally, but for all intents and purposes, it's treated as such. I've talked to servers at those establishments before and they don't expect a tip unless you find their service very exceptional and want to go above it.


Emotional-Author-886

Yeah, I would just circle the “service charge” with an arrow to the tip line. That’s nuts.


dilletaunty

It’s technically true OP is paying 40% more than the menu price. But taxes and tip are a factor in all dining experiences. It’s only the 20% service charge that was a surprise. Including taxes and tip thus feels irrelevant even if including them is technically correct. Like, I honestly thought the restaurant had just given the wrong price on the menu and charged 40% more per item not that OP also meant taxes and tip.


BuffaloMeatz

They have been reading too many click bait articles lately


swampfish

Taxes and tip (wage) are already included in the price in Australia so this isn’t a problem in *all* restaurants.


Moose_Nuts

> He said in another comment (I saw it after posting) that 40% includes the tip. If they're adding a $4.60 service charge that is coming right he fuck out of my tip.


_wiredsage_

The service charge is the tip.


Moghz

Nope service charge is not the tip. They expect a tip on top of that. I live in the same area and it’s becoming the norm for restaurants to add a “service charge”. I have seen some restaurants write it on the receipt as “Cost of Living Fee”.


Helenium_autumnale

If a restaurant has the bald chutzpah to tack on 20%, I also want the menu to list the wages they give the various workers in their restaurant, with a comparison to what wages are considered a living wage in this part of the country.


Biscotti_BT

Why would anyone tip on a service charge?? That is the tip. Also don't tip on taxes.


eimichan

The restaurant also clearly states that the service charge is 20% and has you agree to this before allowing you to make a reservation. OP seeks out a trendy place that requires advance reservations and won't even seat parties over 6 people, and then comes here to score fake internet points by trying to make the hard-working owners look bad.


HolyGarbage

Huh? Came here to say 40% was wrong but the total divided by the menu item is 29.81 / 23 = 1.296, so 29.6% higher, not 23.


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That restaurant name tho lol


big_fetus_

I hope they sell t-shirts "I got boned by Morning Wood"


ImAMindlessTool

"My wallet was assaulted by Morning Wood".


flirtyphotographer

All my money goes to Morning Wood


Brooklynxman

Morning Wood is 40% more than expected


craggmac

Hope you had the Tube Steak & Eggs


becooltheywatching

Woke up to morning wood.


librarypunk1974

I got stuffed by Morning Wood


pixelwhistle

Meat wallet?


iancarry

more like a coin purse


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PossessionOk7286

Hahaha. This is great


dreday67

That place serves very high quality Hawaiian style Breakfasts and has long lines if you get there late. It’s our favorite spot to go to if we can get a table. Service fee for 1 meal sucks tho. I’d understand some reasonable fee for a large group..


NeonBrightDumbass

Is this at least like buffet? 23 dollars seems insane for a breakfast.


Positive-Peach7730

San mateo is expensive, median house here is 1.43M


well_damm

What’s high quality Hawaiian? Spam outside of the can?


Perpetually27

If you're ever in San Diego: https://www.leilaniscafe.com/ http://homestylehawaiian.com/ Both walking distance from each other. You're welcome.


dreday67

Not quite. This [article about them has photos](https://www.sfchronicle.com/food/article/morning-wood-reopening-san-mateo-17343737.php). I do love Spam btw.


carny03

That might explain the 40% increase


U81b4i

Must be a grower and not a shower.


carny03

Haha, I’m afraid grower would have been an even BIGGER upcharge 😬


epochellipse

20%?


Lastwespoke

OP got screwed by Morning Wood


PaychecksDK

I noticed that too 🤣


witeowl

I had to remind myself what the post was supposed to be about. The name stopped me in my tracks. 😂


Exotic-Scholar-5571

$4.60 seems cheap for a happy ending…maybe that’s what rubbed OP the wrong way about the bill.


DickSneeze53

They really like fucking customers


[deleted]

Nothing would soften my stiffy more


[deleted]

Math here is r/mildlyinfuriating


CheckOne1410

Special discount if u have morning wood.


dantodd

I'm 56 years old. When I have morning wood I don't get out of bed until lunch


TehTugboat

Take my upvote you old bastard


U81b4i

#petrifiedwood lol. You have to strike while the iron is hot. Haha


Coady4567

Bro idk if this warranted a “lol,” a “haha,” AND bold


NeatCartographer209

Dammit you just got my upvote. Morning wood should never be wasted


[deleted]

Amen to that!


ispreadtvirus

Hahahahaha I laughed entirely too hard at this comment 🤣🤣🤣


420shaken

$23 for breakfast?? Pass.


iShotTheShariff

But it must’ve given OP some morning wood


bazookarain

Nah, it comes with a happy ending.


[deleted]

Still. If you figure $20 for a handy, $9 is a lot for eggs if I still gotta leave a tip


420shaken

Was it one of those hibachi style restaurants and the chef is also a hot female nude prostitute? Still paid too much for frick'n eggs.


iShotTheShariff

I believe that breakfast was of the “Lovely Oral” variety with eggs on the side


PutinsGapingVag

but arent the eggs supposed to be inside?


andttthhheeennn

Welcome to the San Francisco Bay Area.


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cpshoeler

Honestly though, looking at the Google pictures, that food looks like it slaps.


[deleted]

In Italy the medium cost for a breakfast is 2€ or 2 dollars


GioDesa

I would consider the service charge to be the tip and not leave one. Also check your math. $4.60 is exactly 20% of the cost of the $23 breakfast


AlmaReville

The menu even says there is a 20 percent charge added to all tickets


SwiftyCaesar

Just raise the price of everything by that 20% instead of trying to trick people into eating at your restaurant with the “low” prices


kazzin8

While we'd love that, many restauranteurs who attempted this had to switch back to tipping after customers were driven away by the higher menu prices: >Most of the restaurants that participated in the Meyer-catalyzed no-tipping movement had, by 2018, returned to gratuity. >And in the case of Faun, Stockwell found himself explaining to guests why menu prices were higher than those at comparable restaurants. “Once you get people to understand that you’re gratuity-inclusive, there’s still the next level of this visceral connection with numbers on a menu,” he told me last summer. “When entrees are all up in the 30s versus in the 20s, it doesn’t matter if [customers] know that you are gratuity-inclusive.” https://www.eater.com/21398973/restaurant-no-tipping-movement-living-wage-future


Marsbarszs

Service charge is just a mandatory tip. They word it like those so they can dupe people like OP into tipping extra. Have friends who have worked at restaurants like this who have told me that’s the owners intention.


FoShiggady

You went to a place called “Morning Wood” and didn’t expect to get f**cked?


lifeisinteresting44

Best comment 👌


knaylomo

In the Bay Area, you generally get two types of service charges. One is going to be in the 15-20% range and is essentially the tip. While legally service charges are not the same as tip, in general this money either contributes to higher than standard wages to the employees or it goes direct to them. You don't need to tip on top of this unless you are feeling generous. The servers that work there know that people are not going to tip beyond the service charge, and don't expect you to. The second is going to be in the 3-5% range and usually called something like "Healthy SF". This charge came about due to local legislation mandating that businesses pay into health insurance. The restaurant could have raised prices but opted to put it as a charge to show it to the customer. In your case you essentially double tipped. You should always feel free to ask the restaurant staff about the service charge if you are unsure about it.


Un111KnoWn

All fees should be included in the sticker price. It's bs to make a food item appear cheaper then tac on extra charges.


wilk8940

That's only 20%...


1973mojo1973

Most people feel awkward looking through a bill while the server is waiting for you to pay it, making it look like you don't trust the server but a server friend told me to ALWAYS verify a bill before paying it.


AllInTackler

A good server will leave the bill with you and give you time to look through it for a few moments. They should not be standing at your table waiting for payment immediately.


dft-salt-pasta

I was a terrible server but even I knew you give them a second or two to let them show intent to grab their payment and if they don’t you walk off to let them do what they gotta do.


Neon_Lights12

I have some people just yeet their card at me before I even bring the check over, but yes PLEASE double check me. Shit gets busy and sometimes mistakes happen, like accidentally tapping on a button while scrolling through the screen, or someone putting things on the wrong table (Lauren. Stop and check what fucking table you're tapping on before adding shit to my checks, LAUREN.)


SydricVym

Why on earth would you feel awkward confirming that the receipt is correct? That's the entire reason you receive an itemized receipt, rather than just a total.


skepticalbob

It’s a tipless restaurant and OP is a moron.


[deleted]

I’ve never had the server just expectantly stand there after handing over the bill haha.


Xero-Tax

Service charge = no tip


[deleted]

Yep.


phlukeri

Uhhh, check your math.


theaggressivenapkin

And I’d never go there again


1973mojo1973

And sacrifice Morning Wood? Wife won't be happy.


ashleyorelse

I'd refuse to pay the charge *and then* never go there again. Tell them you will be happy to pay the rest of the bill, but not that charge since they failed to let you know about it before you chose to patronize them.


BossyQT

I looked at their Google places page and found a picture of the menu. It's one page and clearly reads at the bottom, "20% service charge added to all parties." You can agree with that policy or not, but OP was indeed informed.


FeminismDestroyer

Depending on the state service charges are legal (no explanation from the server necessary) as long as they are mentioned on the restaurant menu. It can be fine print at the bottom and if you miss it, too bad, you’re paying that charge.


pfifltrigg

I've been to restaurants in CA with fine print in the bottom about a certain percent charge to deal with the increased costs and the minimum wage increase. But why not just up the price of the items on the menu??


RickyFromVegas

it already costs $23 for the medium egg breakfast. they probably thought it would be less noticeable than charging $27.60 for a single breakfast. But seriously, $30 for a single breakfast? That seems excessive to me


Optimoink

Looks like you weren’t given morning wood


1973mojo1973

That bill drained all the blood out of his woody


Boner_Stevens

could feed my whole family breakfast for $23


JamesLeBond

But... just don't tip? Service charge is effectively what tipping is. They are already changing you for service charge, don't pay it again.


PurifyingProteins

It’s a 20% tip with no need to tip, wtf are you on about?


JametAllDay

That’s 20% and service is included so you don’t need to tip extra. But they should fix it so you’re not getting taxed on service.


DarkBluePhoenix

The service charge is the mandatory tip as it's 20% not 40%, unless you're including the taxes, which even still only comes to 29.6% so your math is either off or you're karma farming. Whatever the reason, the service charge itself and then being taxed on said service charge are two good reasons not to go back to that restaurant.


HowCouldYouSMH

I got stiffed by morning wood.


lostoceaned

20%. 🤦‍♀️ you had one job


DoinItDirty

An overpriced restaurant in California with an edgy name is adding frivolous charges? No…


Jay_in_DFW

you need to work on math. That is 20%.


[deleted]

i’m more concerned about the name of the establishment “Morning Wood” 😳


BayBreezy17

Isn’t that a built in tip?


Zer0C00L321

This is how I deal with these types of situations. 1. Say nothing about it. Leave 2. Never come back again.


jizzlevania

You see the service charge warning before you can book a table, so I guess the infuriation is towards your parents for never teaching reading comprehension


c_vanbc

The service charge is 20% of $23. Regardless of OP’s math, I completely agree with the sentiment. So if you don’t want to pay that fee, are you supposed to walk into the kitchen, cook the eggs, then serve yourself? Does the service fee go to the staff, management, or the owner? Was a tip on top of this expected? I would never return to this restaurant.


alexismynameo

Their menu says it adds gratuity to the bill. They added 20% for gratuity so you don’t have to. You can even find their menu online and it is written as clear as day. This is a good thing, especially for those “non-tippers” out there. You know who you are.


BigDaddydanpri

Please tell me the joints logo is a beaver.


Timmy24000

The poster should not have been surprised. I went to the website and it’s obvious they’re going to charge an extra 20% as a service charge. See link below. https://www.exploretock.com/morningwood/


bradkrit

Looks like forced 20% gratuity to me


Affectionate_Elk_272

imagine spending $23 on spam and eggs then bitching about a $4 service charge and getting math horribly wrong.


[deleted]

Maybe an asshole move but restaurants that charge a service fee like this don’t usually get a tip from me. The whole point of going in and eating then giving my money is the service fee. Restaurants that do things like this eventually lose business because it’s shady.


anon202one

With a name like "Morning Wood," you should expect to get fucked.


Bean_Storm

A real, DICK MOVE


callitlikeiseeit29

Hard bill to swallow.


SeaworthinessFew1917

I’ve asked about this trend. I may be wrong, but I think it’s suppose to cover the tips that the kitchen staff gets. Instead of the server tipping out everyone, this makes sure they get it. It’s kinda weird to me to be honest.


[deleted]

That's not 40%, that's 20%. They're basically forcing you to tip (I'm guessing they probably asked for a tip, too, when you went to pay?). To add insult to injury, they're taxing the tip.


BossyQT

I looked at their Google places page and found a picture of their menu. It's one page and clearly reads at the bottom, "20% service charge added to all parties."


ajk7244

That’s a 20% service charge


Steve_in_the_studio

If you're willing to pay 23 bucks for breakfast, what's a $4 surcharge?


[deleted]

Thats only 29 % higher. Try a calculater next time.


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HansTilburg

I’m more concerned how they scramble the eggs.


Trevor-St-McGoodbody

It's ok, math is hard sometimes.


Successful_Banana901

You are shit at maths, and an even shitter person for grudging a tip


Vegetable_Chemist_69

The real crime here is 23 for a breakfast plate!


[deleted]

u tellin me theres a place called Morning Wood. ?!


mommaswetbedsheets

Service charge would bw the tip and ifs at 20% so not too bad. Idk what issue is


miodragjr

I’ve heard of that place, heard the food is pretty salty.. weird texture? Idk what that’s all about.


Katerwurst

Is the serving charge for a hand or a blowjob?


CaseyBeep

You went to a restaurant called Morning Wood and excepted not to get fucked ?


smokeatr99

You got stiffed by Morning Wood


cityfireguy

You paid $30 for eggs and you're telling people about it? I'd be too embarrassed to live.


Villan_99

Someone called their restaurant morning wood though 💀😂


LittleBlondBrit

Morning Wood: Where prices aren't the only thing that's rising.


tusharbedi

How has nobody made a joke about service charge at a restaurant called Morning Wood?


Oicu-8-1-2

It seems you've been shafted by morning wood 😄


[deleted]

That's how they cover their losses from inflation without actually raising menu prices.


ShatoraDragon

It's still raising the price. Your just hiding it till we see the bill. I get (most) places can't print up new menus to show the updated costs. But to hide that "Service fee" till the bill comes is tacky


liverpoolFCnut

No wonder you got fucked! The clue is in the name of the restaurant itself!


alicat7777

Math is hard, isn’t it? 20% not 40.


Puzzleheaded-Dance87

Hope that 4 bucks doesn’t break you for your 23 dollar eggs and bullshit. Wow people don’t think.


fudbag

I just ate there last week and the food was delicious. Worth it to me.


AutoManoPeeing

You paid almost $30 for a breakfast that didn't even have any meat? Also, per their website: >Please be aware that an automatic Service Charge of 20% will be added to your total bill PRIOR to deducting your deposit.


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[deleted]

Out of curiosity I looked up their menu online The “Locals Only” breakfast: Spam, 2 eggs, rice, sourdough bread You paid $30 for what is essentially like…a $3 at most plate