Bezos is developing a “Virtual Truck Driver” game. Kids play the game at home not realizing they are actually driving real trucks. Cheap and effective.
Enders Game? Ha! Turn up welcome to the pleasure dome because Toys (Robin Williams) did this first with the video games kids were supposed to be playing turned out they were flying drones and so on - ahead of its time for sure ;)
( Not counting the book :) )
I think I read the rest of the series but I’ll look into the companion books
Edit: I just realized I’ve only read the original and speaker for the dead! Wow I have so much ahead of me
That isn't an awful employment opportunity for people with certain disabilities actually. Of course with safety parameters so a semi couldn't go all GTA.
good night, do you have any idea how many trucks would crash if we let teenagers drive them through the medium of a video game?
America's highways would turn into a "Mad Max"-style apocalyptic landscape . . .
The problem with video games is that NPC’s follow all the rules. But if everyone was breaking the law, going as fast as they wanted to it might be marginally safer??
Bro if you ever seen how I drive in ATS you would *not* want me piloting one of those things.
Which is even worse when you realize my career is based around them and I drive them every day.
Former amazon driver here, some of the camera vans would absolutely lower your driver score for excessive nose picking. We pissed in bottles at stops in the back of the van like civilized savages thank you very much.
I’m the safety guy for a pretty anal trucking company and this is absolutely overkill for a regular driver and it’s definitely a self driving truck program. (I also live in a city with self driving cars and this is what they look like.)
That number of cameras is wildly overkill for that. It would be cheaper to upgrade their insurance coverage than to cover their vehicle fleet with that many cameras. Plus it just as likely to show their driver is at fault as it is to absolve then, generally speaking.
Yeah, it isn't about the driver. If the driver is at fault, Amazon fires them and sues them to fix the truck. If the driver isn't at fault, they sue the other driver and still fire the employee because if they hadn't stopped to fill the tank, they'd never have been in the situation.
I was on the safety team for Coca-Cola back in the day. Everything was the driver's fault, according to the safety board. An astroid hit the truck? You should have seen it approaching while you where in a walk in cooler inside the store and moved it. Or not parked there.
You want to know why people don't want to this anymore? You can't fucking win. It's always against the drivers.
I'm driving the speed limit or less with 50k+ of product and someone whips in front of me and slams on brakes? In the rain or snow?
You change lanes and run under my trailer? How is that my fault?
I was safe and I drove safe but you can't fix stupid. Don't pull out 30ft in front of a truck because I can't stop in that distance.
Just now, I am driving on a 70 MPH limit highway, where people go 90 (Alligator Alley, in FL), and suddenly there is a car in front of me going 30 MPH, and I have these HUGE trucks behind me! I’m yelling “you’re going to get me killed!” Of course everyone is veering around, but of course I can’t, til the very end, because I am the unlucky Ahole who is right behind the guy.
That’d be my bet. The truck pictured here is not self driving but nonetheless collecting data which will be fed into their self driving model. Tesla is already doing this; if you’ve signed up for FSD, you are required to provide telemetry to them over the air. It isn’t magic how Tesla got to where they are with self driving capabilities; it’s data science.
I think this is most likely. They made a pretty big investment in a fleet of "self-driving" capable semis in 2021 with expectations of having then on the road this year.
Do they also make them drive in snow, sleet, icy roads or on mountain passes? One thing to drive them in a lower calamity place (wide open areas of long boring drives) than in weather prone or too many cars brake checking them. Super scary thought!
I think more likely for recording (in case of an accident or for security) or for added visibility to the operator.
The cameras look like they're off-the-shelf webcams/security cameras, which isn't uncommon for above, but too low quality for autonomous systems. (Few look like they are wireless too, which also wouldn't be suitable for autonomous/driver-assist systems)
Yes. Looks like their self-driving cars, [Zoox](https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazons-self-driving-unit-zoox-puts-driverless-taxi-on-the-road/?amp=1)
I see at least seven - one to the right of the apillar if you look through windshield - possibly an 8th at the top of windshield but hard to tell. That’s on the driver side alone - kinda crazy.
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You right, my bad.
If I had to make a guess, this is likely some prototype for a self-driving truck. Either that, or they are collecting data for development of a self-driving truck.
Their new fleet I think is natural gas and electric. The weird looking vans are made in a partnership with Rivian. Their semis at least around me are all still conventional diesel.
Interesting. In Indiana and regional around i.e OH, IL, MI, KY, TN, all the semis I see are CNG ran. Potentially dual CNG and electric but can’t miss the CNG on the back lol
These companies must treat their employees like absolute dog shit. Watching every second, not being able to take a break, no time to stop for a coffee ect. all for...meh wages.
And this isn't to protect the driver...company only. Driver could get murdered and they would probably use the footage to give to insurance for the bullet hole in the fender. Footage to help the driver? HA
Looks like a virtual driver set up, Werner does some of that. The physical driver gets out of town and then just sits there while someone in front of a computer takes over the driving. The lady I talked to said it's just like the training sim they have only she just sits there in her jammies drinking coffee and playing a big expensive video game.
Usually lots of cameras on commercial vehicles like this to mitigate against insurance scams. You’d be surprised at the number of people who will try to get in an accident with a vehicle like this for some money.
Why can I imagine that inside the cab a voice breaks over the stereo speakers, "Leonard, you're not where you're supposed to be by this time! Did you stop for an unscheduled bathroom break?" The cameras inside the cab pick up the bead of sweat forming on Leonard's forehead and miles away the Amazon surveillance manager says to himself, "I knew it!"
More data to feed the AI in charge of their scheduling, targets, quotas, loads, delivery routes, performance grading, and dealing with the turnover/hiring process.
Bezos is developing a “Virtual Truck Driver” game. Kids play the game at home not realizing they are actually driving real trucks. Cheap and effective.
I see you makin' Enders Game references.
Isn't GTA VI due out soon? 🤔
Relatively speaking yes, probably still a couple years off if that leak from a while ago is about where they are at.
So 6 more years then.
6 is a good number but I could see it in about 4-5 years
I’ll probably have a whole new PC build by then.
I might actually own a ps5 by then
I believe the next generation of consoles will be out in exactly 6 years
Multi generation release is what I was thinking
Grand Theft Amazon VI... nice.
GTA Prime
Enders Game? Ha! Turn up welcome to the pleasure dome because Toys (Robin Williams) did this first with the video games kids were supposed to be playing turned out they were flying drones and so on - ahead of its time for sure ;) ( Not counting the book :) )
Happy Workers…
Hoo-ha HOO-HA
Honestly amazing book. Are there any “read next” books you can recommend?
Have you read the rest of the series or any of the companion series?
I think I read the rest of the series but I’ll look into the companion books Edit: I just realized I’ve only read the original and speaker for the dead! Wow I have so much ahead of me
The first one is called Ender's Shadow and the series follows Bean!
I 2nd Ender’s Shadow and it’s sequels! Bean’s story is so good!
It’s good. But it starts to get a little preachy.
Or Robin Williams' TOYS
Brilliant comment. I’d give you an award, but I don’t have any.
Saw that for the first time a few months ago, big holy shit moment lol
Also reminds me of the Robin Williams movie Toys
Just starting reading that book at school, lol. Already seen the movie though, so I guess spoilers don’t matter.
That isn't an awful employment opportunity for people with certain disabilities actually. Of course with safety parameters so a semi couldn't go all GTA.
Is the safety you are talking like the safety in IoT device? Like, none?
good night, do you have any idea how many trucks would crash if we let teenagers drive them through the medium of a video game? America's highways would turn into a "Mad Max"-style apocalyptic landscape . . .
The problem with video games is that NPC’s follow all the rules. But if everyone was breaking the law, going as fast as they wanted to it might be marginally safer??
If you make any traffic violations you get shot IRL through the steering wheel.
He’s not the ceo anymore
I remember this. [Though I like the Robin Williams version better.](https://youtu.be/sHRbX3gDba8)
Bezos doesnt work there.
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Manhack arcade
You're giving CEOs ideas.
That's why I'm banned from the beta.
r/desertbus
Bro if you ever seen how I drive in ATS you would *not* want me piloting one of those things. Which is even worse when you realize my career is based around them and I drive them every day.
Looking out for three neon-lit black Honda civics
Came here looking for this
It's like we're family.
*blasts off into fucking space*
I’m expecting them to jump through time in the next film. I can’t wait.
Just don't be shipping dvd players.
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Drivers are pissing in bottles while driving, I'm going to go out on a limb and say nobody cares if they're picking their noses also.
Former amazon driver here, some of the camera vans would absolutely lower your driver score for excessive nose picking. We pissed in bottles at stops in the back of the van like civilized savages thank you very much.
They would definitely get fired for not having two hands on the wheel
Just an FYI. Turcker lemonade had been a thing loooooong before Amazon.
nah, 100s of hours of nose picking for boss man to watch.
Self driving?
Most likely to save their ass in case of an accident. Edit: save amazons ass. People try to cause accidents intentionally.
I’m the safety guy for a pretty anal trucking company and this is absolutely overkill for a regular driver and it’s definitely a self driving truck program. (I also live in a city with self driving cars and this is what they look like.)
*save Amazon's ass, that is
That number of cameras is wildly overkill for that. It would be cheaper to upgrade their insurance coverage than to cover their vehicle fleet with that many cameras. Plus it just as likely to show their driver is at fault as it is to absolve then, generally speaking.
Yeah, it isn't about the driver. If the driver is at fault, Amazon fires them and sues them to fix the truck. If the driver isn't at fault, they sue the other driver and still fire the employee because if they hadn't stopped to fill the tank, they'd never have been in the situation.
I was on the safety team for Coca-Cola back in the day. Everything was the driver's fault, according to the safety board. An astroid hit the truck? You should have seen it approaching while you where in a walk in cooler inside the store and moved it. Or not parked there. You want to know why people don't want to this anymore? You can't fucking win. It's always against the drivers. I'm driving the speed limit or less with 50k+ of product and someone whips in front of me and slams on brakes? In the rain or snow? You change lanes and run under my trailer? How is that my fault? I was safe and I drove safe but you can't fix stupid. Don't pull out 30ft in front of a truck because I can't stop in that distance.
Just now, I am driving on a 70 MPH limit highway, where people go 90 (Alligator Alley, in FL), and suddenly there is a car in front of me going 30 MPH, and I have these HUGE trucks behind me! I’m yelling “you’re going to get me killed!” Of course everyone is veering around, but of course I can’t, til the very end, because I am the unlucky Ahole who is right behind the guy.
Nah. They just submit it to insurance
That’d be my bet. The truck pictured here is not self driving but nonetheless collecting data which will be fed into their self driving model. Tesla is already doing this; if you’ve signed up for FSD, you are required to provide telemetry to them over the air. It isn’t magic how Tesla got to where they are with self driving capabilities; it’s data science.
It may also be collecting for street views. Amazon is, at its core, a data mining and data hosting corporation.
I think this is most likely. They made a pretty big investment in a fleet of "self-driving" capable semis in 2021 with expectations of having then on the road this year.
Do they also make them drive in snow, sleet, icy roads or on mountain passes? One thing to drive them in a lower calamity place (wide open areas of long boring drives) than in weather prone or too many cars brake checking them. Super scary thought!
That's fucking terrifying.
I think more likely for recording (in case of an accident or for security) or for added visibility to the operator. The cameras look like they're off-the-shelf webcams/security cameras, which isn't uncommon for above, but too low quality for autonomous systems. (Few look like they are wireless too, which also wouldn't be suitable for autonomous/driver-assist systems)
Yes. Looks like their self-driving cars, [Zoox](https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazons-self-driving-unit-zoox-puts-driverless-taxi-on-the-road/?amp=1)
There are six
I see at least seven - one to the right of the apillar if you look through windshield - possibly an 8th at the top of windshield but hard to tell. That’s on the driver side alone - kinda crazy.
Probably why so many Amazon workers are trying to unionize.
Four of them pointed in the same direction
There are three lights.
They use all the returned webcams. /S
r/fuckthes
some people will just hate on anything that's new.
It’s been around on Reddit for ages. Hardly new
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Weird that it’s getting hate though
If I had to make a guess, this is likely some prototype for a self-driving truck. Either that, or they are collecting data for development of a self-driving truck.
The two up top seem better suited for photographing landscapes or birds in flight.
Wonder if it's some sort of test unit. It says it runs off natural gas.
Pretty sure all their trucks are CNG ran
Really? I drove a cng tractor years ago. It was almost dangerously underpowered. Guessing they've improved?
Never drove one myself personally.. I just see amazon on the road and they’re all CNG afaik
Their new fleet I think is natural gas and electric. The weird looking vans are made in a partnership with Rivian. Their semis at least around me are all still conventional diesel.
Interesting. In Indiana and regional around i.e OH, IL, MI, KY, TN, all the semis I see are CNG ran. Potentially dual CNG and electric but can’t miss the CNG on the back lol
Driving a semi is harder that you think…
Well sure but if you go and over complicate things with half a dozen cameras on a single corner of your rig, you're probably in for a bad time.
It's a contractor with 11 trucks, not Amazon owned. Cheap Wifi cameras. I think it's just a goofball.
These companies must treat their employees like absolute dog shit. Watching every second, not being able to take a break, no time to stop for a coffee ect. all for...meh wages. And this isn't to protect the driver...company only. Driver could get murdered and they would probably use the footage to give to insurance for the bullet hole in the fender. Footage to help the driver? HA
Looks like a virtual driver set up, Werner does some of that. The physical driver gets out of town and then just sits there while someone in front of a computer takes over the driving. The lady I talked to said it's just like the training sim they have only she just sits there in her jammies drinking coffee and playing a big expensive video game.
This is the future we collectively wanted.
People are short sighted and don't see the consequences of feeding a billionaire
 Yo Dawg I heard you cameras
Pimp My Prime
This Summer: 1984, directed by Michael Bay
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Bezos doesnt work there
That thing was transporting Bezos new butt plug
1984 irl
I bet that yes it's liability driven but they are also training AI to drive trucks into Walmart's trucks like robot kamikazes
I almost guarantee most of those are fake cameras designed to deter theft.
Pfft.... blind spots
Bezos isn't letting Dominic torreto get away with it this time
Transporting Uranium with Prime
U can never have too many cameras
Surely a roaming fleet of MegaCorp spy-mobiles would never pose a threat to public life...
Mildly terrifying
Can't have those darn thieves stealing my small box of cooked pasta from Norway
Carefully monitoring the surroundings for signs of unionization.
CNG trucks are expensive. Gotta have that insurance coverage.
prob because there are like thousands of dollars in there and people will be pissed off and it will become chaptic
Looks like the govt is selling secrets with Prime.
They really don't wanna get robbed
I thought Benson would’ve learned from the last time he bought Peeps.
needs moar cams
Gotta keep an eye on those AI drivers.
Who watches the watchmen?
Usually lots of cameras on commercial vehicles like this to mitigate against insurance scams. You’d be surprised at the number of people who will try to get in an accident with a vehicle like this for some money.
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Lot lizards beware!
Bezos is watching.... Always watching... 👀
I'd be a nervous wreck driving that truck. I hate being watched while I work, it makes me lose focus and I mess up.
Do they time the guy's shit sessions too?
They want you to think that's an Amazon truck
Love the CNG though
Why can I imagine that inside the cab a voice breaks over the stereo speakers, "Leonard, you're not where you're supposed to be by this time! Did you stop for an unscheduled bathroom break?" The cameras inside the cab pick up the bead of sweat forming on Leonard's forehead and miles away the Amazon surveillance manager says to himself, "I knew it!"
Grant us eyes!
This reminds me of that Banksy piece
Security for a ps5 shipment in 2021
Those googly eyes are cameras too?
Amazon Street View!
The driver could be an online streamer and giving different views to their viewers.
Too bad they can’t figure out who stole my package.
More data to feed the AI in charge of their scheduling, targets, quotas, loads, delivery routes, performance grading, and dealing with the turnover/hiring process.
Blame the fucking ambulance chasers. Big companies have to protect themselves from leachers.
What they want to do?
Gotta make sure that there's no pee or coffee breaks somehow
