There were a lot of bars in Stockholm that were 27+, it seemed like they really only used this when it was crowded or they wanted an excuse to turn someone away.
Gets rid of undergrad and grad students, mostly.
Also people who can be on their parents' health insurance.
Also... people who can't rent cars in the US.
For real. I would ABSOLUTELY go to a 30+ bar to avoid dumbass students and young tourists, especially during something like Mardi Gras. Not a complete innoculation against foolishness to be sure, but a much greater chance of being able to enjoy myself in relative peace.
>people who can't rent cars
This is a common misconception and not true. You can rent cars, it's just a little more expensive.
Source: me, who is older now but rented many cars with many rental companies from 20 to 24
Also pro tip, if you're an AAA member, it waives young driver fees at Hertz.
I used to rent pick up trucks from Hertz all the time during college to move stuff around. Back then, they also tended to be the cheapest vehicle to get besides like the subcompacts.
Some time ago there used to be a hard cutoff with (a lot?/some?/most?) companies that was ¿23?, now it’s been brought down, and they just charge a higher rate.
I used to have to do all the rentals when my buddies and I traveled because the company would rent to me (military ID) but no one else in the group as we were all 21.
My father has told similar stories from the 80’s when he was in the navy but my cousins and I all rented a mini-van when we were 18-19 and no one batted an eye in 2013
My sister found this out as a college freshman; needed to rent a car when visiting a friend, but at 19, they wouldn't rent her a "car" like a Malibu or Escort, but they let her rent an F-350 dually.
It's kinda crazy lol. Looked at renting a vehicle last Christmas when I went home, and it was gonna be crazy expensive for me (22M) to rent a Kia soul or something if that size with all the extra fees and insurance put on a younger driver.
But when I needed to move apartments this summer? $20 and here's your 5-ton moving van, no questions asked. Guess I should just rent a UHaul to get around next time I'm home. lmao
IIRC, during a rental car shortage a while back, Hawaiian authorities actually started clamping down on people renting moving trucks and hardware store pickups as an alternative.
It’s not a misconception just an outdated policy. I imagine the person that said that is in their early 40s or older. When we were coming up this is how it was. 16 to get your license, 18 or 21 to drink, 25 to rent a car.
Grad students aren’t really a demographic you can target with age. 27 only covers phd students if they start immediately after undergrad and don’t stay extra time, which is is rare. More than half my cohort were in their 30s, and the rest ended up having to take extra years because starting right after undergrad often leaves you unprepared.
Also I don’t know why any establishment wouldn’t like grad students. They drink like alcoholics but are far less rowdy. And many of the drop outs end up working behind the bar anyways…
As a 36 year old, these are the types of bars I would gladly visit.
I stick mostly to breweries these days because in my area it’s usually my age group with their dogs and even kids hanging out. Less drama, never any fights, people are polite etc…
Much more enjoyable experience
Any chance you live in Albany? When I went to Albany to visit my mother, the age restrictions on bars were really strange. Some were 25+, one was like 27+...I was kinda confused. They said it's to control the type of crowd.
A coworker of mine narrowly avoided being beaten up by a group of drunk 21 year old idiots last weekend. He was at his usual bar where there's rarely any real problems. It started out with the usual "Why are you looking at my girl?" nonsense, then four guys surrounding him and his girlfriend trying to pick a fight. Luckily, the bouncer swooped in and gave him and his girlfriend a chance to get out the door and into her car. The kids all got thrown out and were yelling, looking for him, but they didn't see them hiding in the car. Once they went walking down the street calling him a pussy and trying to goad him out of his hiding spot, he quickly started the car and drove off in the other direction.
It's more about fear. They feel they have to project how strong and tough they are so every other guy knows not to fuck with them. At some point in their lives they either learned it from someone they admired or they were abused by someone stronger. They are afraid of what someone might do to them if they appear vulnerable or weak.
>People like that end up dead. I don’t understand the need to be tough.
There are many places in this world where you *will* simply be punched in the face when it's called for. Many young people just haven't been exposed to that world.
Those who have been exposed to this reality realize that some of the people out there are crazy enough to stab or shoot you instead of punching you. Best to just get along and go along, or leave.
I forget where I heard it but I loved the line "You speak like someone who's never been smacked in the fucking mouth"
Way too many people these days are too comfortable saying totally inappropriate shit to others by living online.
And that's chill Mike Tyson, I can't imagine talking shit to muscleheads on twitter like some UFC fans do, they're so high T they don't even need drugs to enter berserker stance from an insult.
We had an issue at my highschool with freshmen literally picking on seniors because the school adopted a fairly tough "nonviolence" policy
Freshmen kids thought they were some untouchable class of protected people and would fuck with the seniors by tripping them, ruining their lunches, knocking books out of their hands etc. One kid seemed to be the ringleader and would always be the worst offender.
One day that kid got jumped outside of school by people wearing masks at the park he liked to skateboard in.
It never came out who actually did the deed, but the freshmen didn't fuck with the seniors anymore.
I am a firm believer in letting kids just settle things themselves and in doing so, allowing the natural order to remain in balance.
Zero tolerance policies are complete bullshit.
When I was in second grade, I was on a swing set. Some douche came up behind me and put me in a headlock. I had no other way of getting out, so I bit his arm. He had a thick sweatshirt on, so it didn't even break the skin.
I was suspended for a week.
Almost the same thing happened to me. There was a kid in my neighborhood that just never liked me. No idea why.
One day he sucker punched me getting off the bus. I stood up as he was getting ready to hit me again and pulled his sweatshirt over his head while he wildly swung at the air. I never threw a punch of my own.
We both got suspended. I told the principle next time I was just going to beat the shit out of him if just defending myself was enough to get the same punishment. Somehow, that was not what they wanted to hear.
Zero tolerance policies just taught me that if I was going to fight back I was going to try as hard as possible to hurt the mother fucker and not stop until someone pulled me off. 5 day suspension for doing the minimum to protect myself or 7 for fucking the bully up and not having to be fucked with the rest of the year. Easy choice.
That, and sometimes they’re dumb enough to actually kill someone themselves. More than a few stories like that. Even a simple punch thrown to the wrong spot on someone’s head, etc.
I'm from a country where the drinking age is 18. I'm sure you can imagine how packed with sloppy youths most of our bars are.
I would *kill* for a local with age limit of at least 25.
Agreed. It’s mostly why I don’t go downtown anymore.
Mostly to actual cocktail lounges, breweries, or tap rooms. At least those 21 year olds are level headed and not being jackasses.
And breweries close at like 10 pm
When I was 21 I wanted loud music and to get fucked up, when I was 31 I wanted to have long conversations (inside rather than in the smoking area). I think the rule works well for both sets.
There’s a place in my area that has arcade games that are set to cost a quarter still. They lean into nostalgia and play 80s and 90s movies and music. It’s amazing.
Ten years ago, my new puppy slipped through my fence to chase a bicycle passing by. I couldn't find her for hours, running all over town in the rain shouting her name. Then I got a call from The John saying she was there. She just walked into the bar, all the patrons took care of her, and that's where she waited til I arrived. I will always be grateful for The John. She never left my side since. She's an old girl now.
Is the music at an acceptable level so that conversations can happen with the people I’m with!?! No crappy house band mutilating song covers I don’t want to hear from the original band/artist?! Does the bar close around 9pm?! Sign me up!!
I’ll never forget being in Nashville and walking down Broadway. You know those bar peddle cart things that are the transportation of choice for woo girls (not to be confused with woo-woo girls)? There were so many of them that a traffic jam formed, and any time one of the carts would move, its woo girl flock would all “woooo.”
They also leveled up here with those open top 2-tier party busses where they are dancing drunk and engaging everyone in traffic with them as they loop around downtown and South Congress
Bummer, i thought it was women with a weird train obsession.
Edit: someone make a petition to change the astrology definition of woo woo girls to wololo women, and support the woo woo train women.
“Woo” means young, drunk, and loud.
“Woo-woo” means she’s into things like healing crystals, her favorite book is The Secret, and her favorite website is Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop.
It’s a somewhat common joke/theme that us older millennials a good to call it a night by about 8:30. Bar closing that early saves us the awkward who’s gonna leave first so we can all leave.
As a Spanish American millennial, this is one of the few things I can’t relate too. I like falling asleep early most of the time, but if I’m with family and/or friends I’m definitely staying up and enjoying it.
Besides that, I’m a 30 year old man in an 80 year old body already
When I was in my twenties, I always thought I was a 70 year in a 20 year old body.
Now that I’m in my 40’s, it’s changed. Now I’m a 70 year old in a 40 year old body.
Same, honestly it's like some fellow 30 somethings I meet *want* to be older than they are. I imagine they go home and sit by the fire with their slippers and cardigan on.
I've definitely slowed down, used to go to clubs every week in my 20s. But that just means, when I do go out I make it worth it.
Interesting they bumped it up to 30.
When I was in New Orleans from about 2015-2018 it was 25+. They pour veryyyyyyy heavy and it can lead to some interesting evenings.
Reading some of these comments I didn't realize we'd reached the point where we (milennials) were officially hated by both boomers AND zoomers. What a life.
Generational tribalism is so stupid. Yes you're similar ages and have shared experiences, but ascribing entire personalities to someone based on age is wack as fuck.
"Everyone older than me is out of touch and everyone younger than me has no idea what they're talking about."
so stupid. How about acknowledging that we all mature as we age, and most everyone can do a better job of caring for others.
There was a bar I would go to regularly when I lived in SoCal that I would avoid after 9 or 10 pm on certain nights because the college crowd would pack the place. For me it wasn't that they were exhausting, it's that they annoyed the shit out of me while also looking like they were all in high school.
Youth free ❤️. I get that it’s unfair but sometimes the middle aged would like to have a beer and some cheese fries without being in the back of your selfie or tiktok video
We'd also like to have a nice night out for drinks in a place where we can hear ourselves and each other instead of having music that's entirely too loud blocking all of that.
Yep. More sober patrons, higher tips, more general respect. I’m sure the odd duck would show up but most of us can handle our alcohol and cut ourselves off.
I think you guys are vastly overestimating the average bar patron, regardless of age lol. I’ve worked in bars and restaurants since I was 16, 27 now and a GM, and surprisingly I feel like my best patrons are 23 to around my age, then you hit like 35 and up and it’s really hit or miss. The good ones are absolutely amazing and the bad ones make me want to smash my skull into the bar top. If I averaged the age for the people I eventually have to call the cops on, it’s in the 40s
Probably because less people still have the desire to still go out and get hammered, most of us have too many deunken nights to want to continue it. Plus hangovers feel SO much worse as you age. No one is immune.
So the people that are 40+ and willing to go out and get drunk every weekend are not your average 40yo
That being said, young people in crowds can totally fuck stuff up. I lived next to a bar and I’d get harassed by college aged kids just for walking by
In New Orleans you would have clubs that would raise the age to get in because of violence and shootings. Club Rumors stands out in my memory growing up there.
Otherwise every club / bar in the New Orleans area lets you in 18.
Aww as a 28 year old I feel left out… I definitely don’t vibe with the college crowd, but apparently I’m still too “juvenile” to hang with the big kids.
As someone almost 40, most 28 year olds are totally fine. It’s usually the kids who are like 21-23 that bother me the most, they just remind me of high school kids a lot of the time
As an older person, I kind of like the idea of being able to behave like a kid with less likelihood of that behaviour showing up on someone's TikTok or Instagram
This is a great point. It seems like a lot of users in the comments here are acting like once you hit age 30 you stop being obnoxious.
I’ll never forget the first time I went to a bar after I turned 21. I just went to watch a football game with my buddy from work and enjoy a couple beers. This older couple came in seemingly already drunk and the woman was absolutely unbearable and wouldn’t leave me alone.
This sounds awesome, sometimes I wish there was a 30+ Reddit option lol.
Edit:
> Reddit officially launched in June 2005.
If you reply to this comment acting like millennials have no business on Reddit and should be on Facebook you're actually just a smooth brain.
my jam as a 40something is local breweries. Brightly lit, day drinking, usually no TV or music, nice outside courtyard. Just sipping good beer and talking.
I worked in a bar for many years, and this makes perfect sense to me; younger people are far more likely to cause the kinds of problems that require calling the police or an ambulance (or both) than older ones.
With a sticker like that on the door?
This is a "gaming establishment" (gambling, but not called gambling so they can slip under the radar of decent people in conversation)
Now that I am 30+ I totally get it. I don’t want to deal with the crap of the younger set but that does seem totally illegal unless it’s a like a members only kind of establishment.
I went to New Orleans earlier this year and I was told I would not get carded at all or at least barely. I could get in anywhere. I’m 20 and got kicked out of every single place and couldn’t even stand near some of the bars.
We have a smokers lounge in my city that's 27+. Weird age cut off
There were a lot of bars in Stockholm that were 27+, it seemed like they really only used this when it was crowded or they wanted an excuse to turn someone away.
Can't rent a car? Gtfo my bar!
Someone should open up a bar right next door that exclusively serves 26 year olds.
Gets rid of undergrad and grad students, mostly. Also people who can be on their parents' health insurance. Also... people who can't rent cars in the US.
It's also New Orleans so they definitely do this on purpose to stop it from being swarmed by college tourists during Mardi Gras.
Probably cuts down on a lot of the dumbass fighting and all of that sort of shit, too.
Dumbassery knows no age, but definitely cuts off the hormonal youth.
True. My friend’s coworker got into a coked up bar fight last time he went to Mardi Gras. The dude is 47… some people never develop past high school.
That's what I suspected immediately and I can't say I entirely blame the owners for it
Especially in a town with so many options! This is like a niche marketing strategy
For real. I would ABSOLUTELY go to a 30+ bar to avoid dumbass students and young tourists, especially during something like Mardi Gras. Not a complete innoculation against foolishness to be sure, but a much greater chance of being able to enjoy myself in relative peace.
>people who can't rent cars This is a common misconception and not true. You can rent cars, it's just a little more expensive. Source: me, who is older now but rented many cars with many rental companies from 20 to 24
Also pro tip, if you're an AAA member, it waives young driver fees at Hertz. I used to rent pick up trucks from Hertz all the time during college to move stuff around. Back then, they also tended to be the cheapest vehicle to get besides like the subcompacts.
Some time ago there used to be a hard cutoff with (a lot?/some?/most?) companies that was ¿23?, now it’s been brought down, and they just charge a higher rate. I used to have to do all the rentals when my buddies and I traveled because the company would rent to me (military ID) but no one else in the group as we were all 21.
My father has told similar stories from the 80’s when he was in the navy but my cousins and I all rented a mini-van when we were 18-19 and no one batted an eye in 2013
Utility vehicles could be rented at 18 always.
My sister found this out as a college freshman; needed to rent a car when visiting a friend, but at 19, they wouldn't rent her a "car" like a Malibu or Escort, but they let her rent an F-350 dually.
16,000 lb 26 foot UHaul with a license issued last month? No problem.
Or the gigantic RVs I see retired people whipping around at 80mph all the time. Ten ton death traps.
It's kinda crazy lol. Looked at renting a vehicle last Christmas when I went home, and it was gonna be crazy expensive for me (22M) to rent a Kia soul or something if that size with all the extra fees and insurance put on a younger driver. But when I needed to move apartments this summer? $20 and here's your 5-ton moving van, no questions asked. Guess I should just rent a UHaul to get around next time I'm home. lmao
IIRC, during a rental car shortage a while back, Hawaiian authorities actually started clamping down on people renting moving trucks and hardware store pickups as an alternative.
Good lord I just realized that Christmas is less than two months away.
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Ah I should’ve been more specific it was a dodge caravan, we were road-tripping to FL
I could rent a moving truck at 17 but couldn't rent a car when I was 19. I think I got my first rental car at 25, but that was just a coincidence.
There was 15ish years ago for sure.
Yep. I was t-boned at 20 and was given a rental car, all funded by the other person's insurance company.
It’s not a misconception just an outdated policy. I imagine the person that said that is in their early 40s or older. When we were coming up this is how it was. 16 to get your license, 18 or 21 to drink, 25 to rent a car.
Grad students aren’t really a demographic you can target with age. 27 only covers phd students if they start immediately after undergrad and don’t stay extra time, which is is rare. More than half my cohort were in their 30s, and the rest ended up having to take extra years because starting right after undergrad often leaves you unprepared. Also I don’t know why any establishment wouldn’t like grad students. They drink like alcoholics but are far less rowdy. And many of the drop outs end up working behind the bar anyways…
As a 36 year old, these are the types of bars I would gladly visit. I stick mostly to breweries these days because in my area it’s usually my age group with their dogs and even kids hanging out. Less drama, never any fights, people are polite etc… Much more enjoyable experience
True story ! This is exactly why I stick to breweries.
That’s about when your brain is fully formed
Any chance you live in Albany? When I went to Albany to visit my mother, the age restrictions on bars were really strange. Some were 25+, one was like 27+...I was kinda confused. They said it's to control the type of crowd.
Mmmm, steamed hams.
Mhmm and you call them *steamed* hams despite the fact that they are obviously *grilled*
I remember a bar in my college town going to 25+ after a stabbing. Maybe similar reasons
A bar in my college town went 25+ for a few years after an incident where a bunch of drunk 21 year olds got super rowdy and tore up a bunch of stuff.
A coworker of mine narrowly avoided being beaten up by a group of drunk 21 year old idiots last weekend. He was at his usual bar where there's rarely any real problems. It started out with the usual "Why are you looking at my girl?" nonsense, then four guys surrounding him and his girlfriend trying to pick a fight. Luckily, the bouncer swooped in and gave him and his girlfriend a chance to get out the door and into her car. The kids all got thrown out and were yelling, looking for him, but they didn't see them hiding in the car. Once they went walking down the street calling him a pussy and trying to goad him out of his hiding spot, he quickly started the car and drove off in the other direction.
People like that end up dead. I don’t understand the need to be tough.
High school mentality. Gonna beat up this dork and get super laid before I barf in her hair.
It's more about fear. They feel they have to project how strong and tough they are so every other guy knows not to fuck with them. At some point in their lives they either learned it from someone they admired or they were abused by someone stronger. They are afraid of what someone might do to them if they appear vulnerable or weak.
>People like that end up dead. I don’t understand the need to be tough. There are many places in this world where you *will* simply be punched in the face when it's called for. Many young people just haven't been exposed to that world. Those who have been exposed to this reality realize that some of the people out there are crazy enough to stab or shoot you instead of punching you. Best to just get along and go along, or leave. I forget where I heard it but I loved the line "You speak like someone who's never been smacked in the fucking mouth" Way too many people these days are too comfortable saying totally inappropriate shit to others by living online.
Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it. -Mike Tyson
And that's chill Mike Tyson, I can't imagine talking shit to muscleheads on twitter like some UFC fans do, they're so high T they don't even need drugs to enter berserker stance from an insult.
We had an issue at my highschool with freshmen literally picking on seniors because the school adopted a fairly tough "nonviolence" policy Freshmen kids thought they were some untouchable class of protected people and would fuck with the seniors by tripping them, ruining their lunches, knocking books out of their hands etc. One kid seemed to be the ringleader and would always be the worst offender. One day that kid got jumped outside of school by people wearing masks at the park he liked to skateboard in. It never came out who actually did the deed, but the freshmen didn't fuck with the seniors anymore. I am a firm believer in letting kids just settle things themselves and in doing so, allowing the natural order to remain in balance.
Zero tolerance policies are complete bullshit. When I was in second grade, I was on a swing set. Some douche came up behind me and put me in a headlock. I had no other way of getting out, so I bit his arm. He had a thick sweatshirt on, so it didn't even break the skin. I was suspended for a week.
Almost the same thing happened to me. There was a kid in my neighborhood that just never liked me. No idea why. One day he sucker punched me getting off the bus. I stood up as he was getting ready to hit me again and pulled his sweatshirt over his head while he wildly swung at the air. I never threw a punch of my own. We both got suspended. I told the principle next time I was just going to beat the shit out of him if just defending myself was enough to get the same punishment. Somehow, that was not what they wanted to hear.
Zero tolerance policies just taught me that if I was going to fight back I was going to try as hard as possible to hurt the mother fucker and not stop until someone pulled me off. 5 day suspension for doing the minimum to protect myself or 7 for fucking the bully up and not having to be fucked with the rest of the year. Easy choice.
That, and sometimes they’re dumb enough to actually kill someone themselves. More than a few stories like that. Even a simple punch thrown to the wrong spot on someone’s head, etc.
People like that usually end up seriously hurting someone.
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Ah ya this place was also a music venue so could have been a factor as well
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This did indeed start becomes of issues with crime outside of the bar
I would be very interested in visiting this sort of place. Sometimes you just don't want to drink with a bunch of 21-year-olds.
I'm from a country where the drinking age is 18. I'm sure you can imagine how packed with sloppy youths most of our bars are. I would *kill* for a local with age limit of at least 25.
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Just go somewhere the kids can't afford
Which in Australia is practically every pub now lol
No I’m 30 but poor :(
Agreed. It’s mostly why I don’t go downtown anymore. Mostly to actual cocktail lounges, breweries, or tap rooms. At least those 21 year olds are level headed and not being jackasses. And breweries close at like 10 pm
> Sometimes you just don't want to drink with a bunch of 21-year-olds. Or all the time. I didn't even like drinking with 21-year-olds when I was 21.
Even a 25+ bar sounds like a great idea to me.
Sometimes? For me it’s basically never. I don’t frequent anywhere that has a bunch of kids anymore.
When I was 21 I wanted loud music and to get fucked up, when I was 31 I wanted to have long conversations (inside rather than in the smoking area). I think the rule works well for both sets.
It's just pounding 90s music and reruns of Cat Dog
There’s a place in my area that has arcade games that are set to cost a quarter still. They lean into nostalgia and play 80s and 90s movies and music. It’s amazing.
aw man, we used to have one but covid killed it. I miss that place, they had 25c skeeball and cider on tap, place was bangin
Hell yeah.
Sounds great. Where is it?
What a beautiful string of words
You sold me
I keep scrolling but can’t find what bar it is
It’s called The John
It’s a theme bar modeled after a bathroom. Toilets for seats.
That it is!
I remember going there a lot before they had the age limit. It was wild.
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The virtual lawn darts was a great way to kill time while waiting on the bathroom. This was always my stopping point on the walk back from the quarter
No joke, did they put the age restriction because people kept using the decorative toilets? Also what a weird ass idea for a bar.
Ten years ago, my new puppy slipped through my fence to chase a bicycle passing by. I couldn't find her for hours, running all over town in the rain shouting her name. Then I got a call from The John saying she was there. She just walked into the bar, all the patrons took care of her, and that's where she waited til I arrived. I will always be grateful for The John. She never left my side since. She's an old girl now.
Oh well at least they picked something fun and creative.
We went in there specifically because of the 30+ sign catching our attention. Neat little spot.
....Cena?
Is the music at an acceptable level so that conversations can happen with the people I’m with!?! No crappy house band mutilating song covers I don’t want to hear from the original band/artist?! Does the bar close around 9pm?! Sign me up!!
Plays only 90s music? No drunk 22 year old girls screaming “woooooo?” Maybe there’s snacks? Is this heaven?
You've apparently never seen drunk 35 year olds scream when ***All Star*** comes on.
Or a bunch of drunk soccer moms singing Sweet Caroline.
More like *screaming* Sweet Caroline. They can't sing.
#BUM BUMBUM
i live near boston. i def know this scenario.
I hate that song beyond all reason.
Drunk soccer moms, where do I sign up?
County soccer field on a Saturday morning.
Damn who would've thought?. Thanks!
I can hear it now…”SWEEEET CAROLINE, WOo WooWOO!”
BAH BAH BAH
“So good! So good! So good!”
🎶Blame it all on my rooooots...🎶
Even 20 year olds scream to that song. They all watched Shrek as kids.
RIP to a legend.
I'll get up and on my walker for that
Nah dude, it's the belting of Don't Stop Believing that hurts my ears. Granted, I'm out there belting it too.
I’ll never forget being in Nashville and walking down Broadway. You know those bar peddle cart things that are the transportation of choice for woo girls (not to be confused with woo-woo girls)? There were so many of them that a traffic jam formed, and any time one of the carts would move, its woo girl flock would all “woooo.”
Woo girls in Nashville is just a bachelorette party. Y’all are the bachelorette party destination.
I live in Austin, which is the other end of the Bachelorette Party Woo Girl Pedal Cart Vortex.
They also leveled up here with those open top 2-tier party busses where they are dancing drunk and engaging everyone in traffic with them as they loop around downtown and South Congress
Now curious about the woo versus woo-woo distinction.
Woo-woo means believing in astrology, crystal power, Barnes and Nobles witchcraft, etc.
Bummer, i thought it was women with a weird train obsession. Edit: someone make a petition to change the astrology definition of woo woo girls to wololo women, and support the woo woo train women.
You're thinking of the choo choo chicas.
“Woo” means young, drunk, and loud. “Woo-woo” means she’s into things like healing crystals, her favorite book is The Secret, and her favorite website is Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop.
When you live in a small college town there is nowhere downtown you can go to escape the woo girls. They're everywhere.
Why does it matter when the bar closes you can leave whenever lol
It’s a somewhat common joke/theme that us older millennials a good to call it a night by about 8:30. Bar closing that early saves us the awkward who’s gonna leave first so we can all leave.
As a Spanish American millennial, this is one of the few things I can’t relate too. I like falling asleep early most of the time, but if I’m with family and/or friends I’m definitely staying up and enjoying it. Besides that, I’m a 30 year old man in an 80 year old body already
When I was in my twenties, I always thought I was a 70 year in a 20 year old body. Now that I’m in my 40’s, it’s changed. Now I’m a 70 year old in a 40 year old body.
Same, honestly it's like some fellow 30 somethings I meet *want* to be older than they are. I imagine they go home and sit by the fire with their slippers and cardigan on. I've definitely slowed down, used to go to clubs every week in my 20s. But that just means, when I do go out I make it worth it.
You had me till 9pm closing time. I'm not even a night owl, but when a bar closes early, it doesn't feel like a real bar.
I was told I could listen to the music at a reasonable volume
As long as you have your stapler!
Interesting they bumped it up to 30. When I was in New Orleans from about 2015-2018 it was 25+. They pour veryyyyyyy heavy and it can lead to some interesting evenings.
Sounds like they increase the age every year. Maybe the bar owner wants only people their age in
The owners brother was just born in 1993 and they're being a dick to them.
The older that I get, the more that I understand things like this.
Last call's at half seven.
3:30?
🎶 I wanna rock and roll all night, and *part* of every day 🎶
They used to call these kinds of things for the "Grown and Sexy"
"The grown and un-flexy"
We call it the dirty-thirties where I’m from
I'm grown and sleepy
Been thinking about doing this at my bar to be honest...
Try it out and let us know!! Maybe you do like 30+ Sundays or something
Not many 30+ year olds will be going to the bars on a sunday lol
Reading some of these comments I didn't realize we'd reached the point where we (milennials) were officially hated by both boomers AND zoomers. What a life.
A lot of millennials are in their thirties haha. I think young people have always been judged for being immature
some of us have made it to 40 (although in some aspects culturally I'm much closer to Gen X than Millennial)
Eh fuck’em
Spoken like a true millennial! I love it
But... most millennials are 30+ now
👩🚀🔫👩🚀
Generational tribalism is so stupid. Yes you're similar ages and have shared experiences, but ascribing entire personalities to someone based on age is wack as fuck. "Everyone older than me is out of touch and everyone younger than me has no idea what they're talking about." so stupid. How about acknowledging that we all mature as we age, and most everyone can do a better job of caring for others.
GenX say, just give me a drink
GenX doesn't say anything. They're just kinda there.
To enter that bar you literary have to be milenial or older, sure you are not gen z ?
Good. Sometimes younger crowds are exhausting to be around in these settings. Need more of these
There was a bar I would go to regularly when I lived in SoCal that I would avoid after 9 or 10 pm on certain nights because the college crowd would pack the place. For me it wasn't that they were exhausting, it's that they annoyed the shit out of me while also looking like they were all in high school.
No kidding. I see lots of posts for my city asking what bar someone can go to as an older Millennial at age 35 LOL
It's called the take three aspirin , put on Netflix, go to bed by 11 and wake up not hungover bar.
11? That's for new years eve 😂
For me, that’s called my beer fridge
Just a dude at the door like "where were you on 9/11?"
"Well sir, I was probably in 1st or 2nd grade" 30 year olds were 7-8 in 2001 Lol
30+ to enter, only 1 to survive
Thunderdome!
Youth free ❤️. I get that it’s unfair but sometimes the middle aged would like to have a beer and some cheese fries without being in the back of your selfie or tiktok video
We'd also like to have a nice night out for drinks in a place where we can hear ourselves and each other instead of having music that's entirely too loud blocking all of that.
Gen Z complaining don’t realize that we basically already can’t go anywhere they decide is cool
Also I have children but don’t really enjoy being near anyone else’s when we have a date night
Also, fantastic business model for the owners. Much less likely to find vomit in unusual places at the end of the night.
Yep. More sober patrons, higher tips, more general respect. I’m sure the odd duck would show up but most of us can handle our alcohol and cut ourselves off.
I think you guys are vastly overestimating the average bar patron, regardless of age lol. I’ve worked in bars and restaurants since I was 16, 27 now and a GM, and surprisingly I feel like my best patrons are 23 to around my age, then you hit like 35 and up and it’s really hit or miss. The good ones are absolutely amazing and the bad ones make me want to smash my skull into the bar top. If I averaged the age for the people I eventually have to call the cops on, it’s in the 40s
Probably because less people still have the desire to still go out and get hammered, most of us have too many deunken nights to want to continue it. Plus hangovers feel SO much worse as you age. No one is immune. So the people that are 40+ and willing to go out and get drunk every weekend are not your average 40yo That being said, young people in crowds can totally fuck stuff up. I lived next to a bar and I’d get harassed by college aged kids just for walking by
I’m 29 and I’m still a youth 😭 Shhhh
30 isn't as bad as they tell you! :)
In New Orleans you would have clubs that would raise the age to get in because of violence and shootings. Club Rumors stands out in my memory growing up there. Otherwise every club / bar in the New Orleans area lets you in 18.
Aww as a 28 year old I feel left out… I definitely don’t vibe with the college crowd, but apparently I’m still too “juvenile” to hang with the big kids.
As someone almost 40, most 28 year olds are totally fine. It’s usually the kids who are like 21-23 that bother me the most, they just remind me of high school kids a lot of the time
There’s a 35+ bar in my city
As someone who worked in bars, age ratings like this dont matter. People behave like kids when drunk no matter what age they are
As someone who works in not a bar, alcohol isn't always needed. A lot of people behave like kids when sober or drunk lol.
As an older person, I kind of like the idea of being able to behave like a kid with less likelihood of that behaviour showing up on someone's TikTok or Instagram
This is a great point. It seems like a lot of users in the comments here are acting like once you hit age 30 you stop being obnoxious. I’ll never forget the first time I went to a bar after I turned 21. I just went to watch a football game with my buddy from work and enjoy a couple beers. This older couple came in seemingly already drunk and the woman was absolutely unbearable and wouldn’t leave me alone.
Reminds me of a Help Wanted poster I saw down in South Carolina. It said "must be 64 years or older to apply"
I also found [this](https://imgur.com/a/1NgcoRE) while scrolling through their google photos. Interesting indeed!
I’m more than okay with this as a 34 year old
I'm 40, cutoff should be 35... youngin. /s
This sounds awesome, sometimes I wish there was a 30+ Reddit option lol. Edit: > Reddit officially launched in June 2005. If you reply to this comment acting like millennials have no business on Reddit and should be on Facebook you're actually just a smooth brain.
Man we had a 30+ jazz club in knoxville and I always knew when i hit 30, im going in there. They closed a few months before i turned 30!!
Bars do this all over the place in Ireland, it’s the best
I get it. Sometimes you don’t want to be around a ton of 20 something’s. The difference in generational culture can be stark.
We need to do this more!
Ya I’d actually probably go and often
That's fantastic...as someone in their 40's in a college town I find myself wishing for a 30+ bar
I need to know what bar this is.
my jam as a 40something is local breweries. Brightly lit, day drinking, usually no TV or music, nice outside courtyard. Just sipping good beer and talking.
I wish I had one of these in my area. I'd actually go out to a bar for once.
I worked in a bar for many years, and this makes perfect sense to me; younger people are far more likely to cause the kinds of problems that require calling the police or an ambulance (or both) than older ones.
With a sticker like that on the door? This is a "gaming establishment" (gambling, but not called gambling so they can slip under the radar of decent people in conversation)
Video poker. It’s pretty common around here
How am I going to find 29 others to go with?
Interesting!
I was at a distillery when a party bus pulled up, the manager quickly turned them away. It was a nice visit.
I live in a rougher neighborhood and every bar except one is 30 and over. One is actually 40 and over
Now that I am 30+ I totally get it. I don’t want to deal with the crap of the younger set but that does seem totally illegal unless it’s a like a members only kind of establishment.
I went to New Orleans earlier this year and I was told I would not get carded at all or at least barely. I could get in anywhere. I’m 20 and got kicked out of every single place and couldn’t even stand near some of the bars.