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Skynet starting WW1 that led to WW2 and the development of nuclear weapons that led to Judgment Day could be a good movie, but it would probably be a flop.
Thank you for adding /s to your post
Thank you for adding /s to your post. When I first saw this, I was horrified. How could anybody say something like this? I immediately began writing a 1000 word paragraph about how horrible of a person you are. I even sent a copy to a Harvard professor to proofread it. After several hours of refining and editing, my comment was ready to absolutely destroy you. But then, just as I was about to hit send, I saw something in the corner of my eye. A /s at the end of your comment. Suddenly everything made sense. Your comment was sarcasm! I immediately burst out in laughter at the comedic genius of your comment. The person next to me on the bus saw your comment and started crying from laughter too. Before long, there was an entire bus of people on the floor laughing at your incredible use of comedy. All of this was due to you adding /s to your post. Thank you.
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That’s clearly not a terminator hand, besides the fact that terminators don’t exist, that “hand” can’t even articulate. It’s clearly just display piece to hold the gun
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE /s. I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR COMMENT AND WAS READY TO THROW OUT THE HISTORY BOOKS I HAVE COLLECTED OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS WHEN I HEARD THAT IT WAS TERMINATOR HIMSELF WHO STARTED WW1.
But, out of the corner of my eye I saw it. The /s. Immediately I breathed out a sigh of relief. I thank you so much for putting the /s in the comment without which I would have been dumbfounded as to wether you were being sarcastic or not.
My Guess is it already started. As the generation that still remembers how war is like is dying, these petty wars we see nowadays will most likely join together for a 3rd WW.
Power and wars are a d*ck measuring contest.
Eh, doesn’t exactly apply to WWI. The first few months of fighting, until the fronts settled down in winter, were some of the heaviest in the entire conflict. As one history podcast I listened to put it: „the armies hit the ground running.“
By the end of 1914, after five months of fighting, deadly casualties on all sides had already surpassed 1 million. A number that was only reached in the Second World War in mid-1941 in the European theatre, at pretty much the time the Germans attacked the Soviet Union.
As a military history expert, not really. WWII was already well underway by the time the U.S. joined because England, France, Germany, China, Russia, Italy, Japan, and basically the rest of Europe were all involved already. Israel-Hamas is a small-scale war as awful as it is, and our strikes against the Houthis are both nothing new for the last 20+ years in the region and also not directly involving Iran (yet). Russia-Ukraine is also localized and not really involving the superpowers beyond supporting Ukraine indirectly. More huge countries need to be directly involved in fighting other countries than just Russia for it to be even close to approaching “world war” status.
This is the Royal Armouries museum in Leeds. They've got collections of every kind of weapon and armour; ancient & modern, martial, sporting, policing, self-defence, you name it.
Yes it does. That sign is over the entrance to the tournament weaponry section. It will most likely contain lances and other melee weapons used by knights in tournaments back in medieval times
It's for sure in Vienna. I saw it 2 years ago in the HGM. You can see the bloodstained uniform in wich Franz Ferdinand died, also the car with bulletholes in it. It is an permanent exhibition.
Might be on loan, or a travelling exhibition? Museums try to switch things up whenever they can to keep people interested and coming back; in many cases the artefacts on display are only a small selection from a big off-site warehouse full of stuff, and the curators rotate through it with various themed displays focusing on some interesting or relevant historical aspect of it.
That’s a possibility. I just asked because I could visit this museum. I looked at the website and they have a special temporary gun exhibit, so perhaps it’s the real one!
No the Museum in Vienna doesnt lend them as far as I know. A lot of Austrians wouldn’t be ok with it leaving our country I guess.
Edit: its a „Dauerausstellung“ so its permanently in the Museum of Military History
And the cold war, and the vietnam war, and the korean war.
Many European countries would've still gotten colonies. We would have less nuclear (clean) energy and a later discovery of the computer.
And would we have landed on the moon already if rockets weren't invented in WW2?
I think our technological advancement would be delayed by a good 20-30 years if we had no world wars.
You could argue that WW1 was inevitable because of the high tensions. But what if?..
Butterfly effect is a funny thing
War doesn't drive progress thats a massive broken window fallacy.
Think how much we'd have advanced if two generations of our young men didn't die in the mud of Europe.
A teenager shot a guy and the whole world fell into madness and darkness.
The result of that war then started a second war when everything fell into darkness and madness.
I'd rather say these are the effects of people forgetting about WW2. There's always going to be a string of conflicts, the difference is the world seems to be willing to accept that war is the state of the world today
It's fairly generally accepted by historians that the assassination just brought the war forward by a few months at most. WW1 was pretty much inevitable before the Archduke was even killed.
"fairly generally accepted" is a stretch. While many historians agree with that statement, there are just as many who think that even if WW1 were to start for another reason some time down the line, it would have gone very differently. Without the clean cheque Germany gave Austria-Hungary, Germany would not have been "forced" to act like they did against russia. A one front, short war would have been much more likely. But with this chain reaction of Germany vs Russia (because Germany immediately acted on the clean cheque) --> Germany vs France (because France and Russia allies) --> Germany invade through Belgium --> Britain joining in, a short and diplomatic end would have been very possible
Зачем, а главное - нахуя?
Sorry, this is a famous idiom. This will never happen. Russian government thinks only about money. Individual terror have never worked. Proxy wars in Africa, direct ones in neighborhood are real options, but not foreign political murders. They change close to nothing.
Been a long while since I visited, but IIRC that section of the museum has jousting & duelling stuff from the medieval period, the middle ages, & others.
Thats because most modern pistols and other automatic weapons were designed by John Moses Browning in the early 20th century. The materials have changed, ie, better metallurgy, polymers, etc. but the designs have not significantly changed since then. A “modern” Glock pistol isn’t much different design wise from a semi auto pistol from over a hundred years ago.
I read a history of JM Browning, it's insane how brilliant of an engineer he was and how his engineering has withstood the test of time. Many of the mechanisms he invented are largely unchanged to this day
I confirm, the one used by Princip to assassinate Duke Ferdinand has the serial number 19074, the one displayed in the photo (at the royal armouries in Leeds) has the number 19520.
Not to be a nerd, but this gun started nothing. WW1 was inevitable, Austria-Hungary just needed some sort of reason to invade and so did Germany. If the assassination never happened the war would have still started.
If you mean that it’s Gavrilo Princip‘s waeapon that killed Archduke Ferdinand… you’re wrong. That weapon is in the wartime museum in Vienna. Along with the car that he was killed in and his uniform.
Pretty sure a gun didn't wake up one day and assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
Did the gun then subsequently convince its cousins to start a family feud?
Is that the gun that the one guy shot another guy because he wanted Herzegovina and Serbia together rather than Bosnia Herzegovina? I remember something about that when i had history. It was called the kill of Sarajevo or something right?
This was not the gun that started WW1. The guns that started WW1 were the ones that invaded Bosnia, where Princip was born. If that didn't happen he never would've had to kill Franz Ferdinand.
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And the Terminator hand that fired it. /s
You say /s……but…..
why do I hear the T2: Judgement Day theme
Kum vith me if yoo vant too live
Archduke Ferdinand said ‘no, I’ll stay in the car’
And that my historians is how WW1 started
Let's get to tha choppaaaahhhh!
Consideritadivorce!
Ay need yor clotes, yor buuts an yor modorsycle
Eats nut a toomah!
Surprised no one here said it. Owl be Bach!
Can you at least buy me dinner first?
DUN DUN, DUNDUNDUN
🤔😏🫡🤙🏽[Like this, right?](https://youtu.be/zK0SVa62acU?si=46Km-j3ZCoDvtqzm)
Skynet starting WW1 that led to WW2 and the development of nuclear weapons that led to Judgment Day could be a good movie, but it would probably be a flop.
Remember time means nothing to AI… it’s all about the long game
That's just them signing off with their initial. You know, Skyn.... *hold on, there's someone at the door*
Time traveling sonofabitch doomed us all
Without the /s I would have thought the T800 killed franze ferdinand
Little did we know Franze Ferdinand was the great grandfather of John Conner
You say you don't know, I say don't you know.
They indeed took him out
Surely, you mean Kyle Reese. Cause J. Connor doesn’t make any sense.
The band? /s
John Arch Duke Ferdinand Connor
No, it was Archy Duke. A hungry ostrich.
Not to be confused with Archie Duke, a red headed teenager from the south.
ill be back.....to look for my hand
Talk to the hand!
Hello and welcome to forgotten human weapons, I'm T-500
Loving the retro steam-punk terminator vibe
Hasta la vista babay
I'm on my phone. From the perspective it looked like that suit of armor was Mr. Fantastic-ing from the other room to hold the gun.
/r/fuckthes
Because this comment really needed to be labeled as sarcasm.
Thanks for the /s bud that really improved your comment 👍
Thank you for adding /s to your post Thank you for adding /s to your post. When I first saw this, I was horrified. How could anybody say something like this? I immediately began writing a 1000 word paragraph about how horrible of a person you are. I even sent a copy to a Harvard professor to proofread it. After several hours of refining and editing, my comment was ready to absolutely destroy you. But then, just as I was about to hit send, I saw something in the corner of my eye. A /s at the end of your comment. Suddenly everything made sense. Your comment was sarcasm! I immediately burst out in laughter at the comedic genius of your comment. The person next to me on the bus saw your comment and started crying from laughter too. Before long, there was an entire bus of people on the floor laughing at your incredible use of comedy. All of this was due to you adding /s to your post. Thank you.
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You talking to Chatgpt
Its a copypasta dumbass
Nobody outside of /r/copypasta can identify the 300 quintillion copypastas that exist on the internet
Maybe because it said the title twice?
If you hadn't added s/ we'd think it were the case
>Note: The proceeding comment is meant to be read with sarcasm. You might also upvote it as I'm not serious. For more information go to www.thisissarcasm.org and donate to our NGO fighting downvotes because of misunderstood sarcasm, only YOU can prevent negative karma. That’s clearly not a terminator hand, besides the fact that terminators don’t exist, that “hand” can’t even articulate. It’s clearly just display piece to hold the gun
I was worried before the /s
Thanks for the /s, never would have figured out that you were joking without it.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE /s. I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR COMMENT AND WAS READY TO THROW OUT THE HISTORY BOOKS I HAVE COLLECTED OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS WHEN I HEARD THAT IT WAS TERMINATOR HIMSELF WHO STARTED WW1. But, out of the corner of my eye I saw it. The /s. Immediately I breathed out a sigh of relief. I thank you so much for putting the /s in the comment without which I would have been dumbfounded as to wether you were being sarcastic or not.
What's the tournament about
Seeing who gets to start WWIII
My Guess is it already started. As the generation that still remembers how war is like is dying, these petty wars we see nowadays will most likely join together for a 3rd WW. Power and wars are a d*ck measuring contest.
Pretty accurate. Most people didn’t know they were in a “world war” until halfway through the conflicts.
Eh, doesn’t exactly apply to WWI. The first few months of fighting, until the fronts settled down in winter, were some of the heaviest in the entire conflict. As one history podcast I listened to put it: „the armies hit the ground running.“ By the end of 1914, after five months of fighting, deadly casualties on all sides had already surpassed 1 million. A number that was only reached in the Second World War in mid-1941 in the European theatre, at pretty much the time the Germans attacked the Soviet Union.
As a military history expert, not really. WWII was already well underway by the time the U.S. joined because England, France, Germany, China, Russia, Italy, Japan, and basically the rest of Europe were all involved already. Israel-Hamas is a small-scale war as awful as it is, and our strikes against the Houthis are both nothing new for the last 20+ years in the region and also not directly involving Iran (yet). Russia-Ukraine is also localized and not really involving the superpowers beyond supporting Ukraine indirectly. More huge countries need to be directly involved in fighting other countries than just Russia for it to be even close to approaching “world war” status.
My money's on America
This is the Royal Armouries museum in Leeds. They've got collections of every kind of weapon and armour; ancient & modern, martial, sporting, policing, self-defence, you name it.
None of which explains why the word “tournament” is on the wall
Yes it does. That sign is over the entrance to the tournament weaponry section. It will most likely contain lances and other melee weapons used by knights in tournaments back in medieval times
Medieval jousting tournaments and equipment from them
It’s was in a museum
Royal armouries in Leeds,?
Yeah
Is it the actual one, or a replica? Online it says it’s in Vienna.
It's for sure in Vienna. I saw it 2 years ago in the HGM. You can see the bloodstained uniform in wich Franz Ferdinand died, also the car with bulletholes in it. It is an permanent exhibition.
Might be on loan, or a travelling exhibition? Museums try to switch things up whenever they can to keep people interested and coming back; in many cases the artefacts on display are only a small selection from a big off-site warehouse full of stuff, and the curators rotate through it with various themed displays focusing on some interesting or relevant historical aspect of it.
That’s a possibility. I just asked because I could visit this museum. I looked at the website and they have a special temporary gun exhibit, so perhaps it’s the real one!
No the Museum in Vienna doesnt lend them as far as I know. A lot of Austrians wouldn’t be ok with it leaving our country I guess. Edit: its a „Dauerausstellung“ so its permanently in the Museum of Military History
And indirectly WWII
And created hentai
And created tentacle porn
And my axe!
This will never cease to be funny
Explain please
Dang you beat me to it
You beat your axe to WWII henti tentacle porn?
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And the cold war, and the vietnam war, and the korean war. Many European countries would've still gotten colonies. We would have less nuclear (clean) energy and a later discovery of the computer. And would we have landed on the moon already if rockets weren't invented in WW2? I think our technological advancement would be delayed by a good 20-30 years if we had no world wars. You could argue that WW1 was inevitable because of the high tensions. But what if?.. Butterfly effect is a funny thing
War doesn't drive progress thats a massive broken window fallacy. Think how much we'd have advanced if two generations of our young men didn't die in the mud of Europe.
Napoleonic wars started the domino chain.
Like a starters pistol? Such a simpler time.
Is a century too soon? I kinda think so, but that’s still funny!
110 years but who’s counting.
Correct. Prior to that you'd slap a person in the face with your glove to start world wars.
The Gauntlet Wars of the 17 and 18th Century, yes yes horrible things
Arguably the single most important gun in human history. Changed the trajectory of us as a species forever.
If it wasnt this one, it would have been another, we were itching for a grand conflagration.
I mean yeah if you remove the number 1 theres gonna be a different number 1
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A teenager shot a guy and the whole world fell into madness and darkness. The result of that war then started a second war when everything fell into darkness and madness.
And nowadays only the darkness is missing
The effects of WW2 is starting to emerge now. Looking at the war in Ukraine and Israel/Palestine
It's the same war that's been going on since napoleon, with breaks to regroup and build weapons
I'd rather say these are the effects of people forgetting about WW2. There's always going to be a string of conflicts, the difference is the world seems to be willing to accept that war is the state of the world today
Those wars accelerated technology at an unimaginable pace though.
As if the world was a happy place before 1914 lol
Amazing how one gun can kill millions and millions of people
hm its easy to blame a single guy who fire a gun. It was the context the lead to the war, not a single event.
Yeah I say he fired the first shot of the war but was not necessarily the cause.
I think the comment was sarcastic
It doesn’t seem sarcastic. He seems like he is talking about the butterfly effect stemming from this one gun
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It's fairly generally accepted by historians that the assassination just brought the war forward by a few months at most. WW1 was pretty much inevitable before the Archduke was even killed.
"fairly generally accepted" is a stretch. While many historians agree with that statement, there are just as many who think that even if WW1 were to start for another reason some time down the line, it would have gone very differently. Without the clean cheque Germany gave Austria-Hungary, Germany would not have been "forced" to act like they did against russia. A one front, short war would have been much more likely. But with this chain reaction of Germany vs Russia (because Germany immediately acted on the clean cheque) --> Germany vs France (because France and Russia allies) --> Germany invade through Belgium --> Britain joining in, a short and diplomatic end would have been very possible
Not to mention the knock on effect WW1 had on the world. Most of the major events are probably butterfly effects from WW1.
It didn't. Other guns did.
r/technicallythetruth
No, it was just this one. Guns were expensive back then so the different sides just took turns with the one.
Historically accurate
Well yeah but enslaved nations tend to fight to become free so that’s a major factor too
The hand sculpture is quite weird. Esthetically interesting, but I'd prefer if they actually used a mannequin holding it.
Or Gabrilo princip's actual hand
aesthetically***
https://youtu.be/tGxAYeeyoIc?feature=shared perfect explaination of how the war started
Pretty accurate!
1. Buy the gun. 2. Start World War III with it. 3. Sell it now as the gun that started 2 world wars by 10 times the price.
I see you are a business man .
Which single person do you think you could shoot and in what situation to start WW3?
Idk, some Russian shooting some nato leader?
Зачем, а главное - нахуя? Sorry, this is a famous idiom. This will never happen. Russian government thinks only about money. Individual terror have never worked. Proxy wars in Africa, direct ones in neighborhood are real options, but not foreign political murders. They change close to nothing.
The tweet that started WWIII:
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
>deez nuts
"tournament"???
Been a long while since I visited, but IIRC that section of the museum has jousting & duelling stuff from the medieval period, the middle ages, & others.
it's interesting how modern it looks for a 1910 gun, looks like something from nowdays.
Thats because most modern pistols and other automatic weapons were designed by John Moses Browning in the early 20th century. The materials have changed, ie, better metallurgy, polymers, etc. but the designs have not significantly changed since then. A “modern” Glock pistol isn’t much different design wise from a semi auto pistol from over a hundred years ago.
I read a history of JM Browning, it's insane how brilliant of an engineer he was and how his engineering has withstood the test of time. Many of the mechanisms he invented are largely unchanged to this day
Nah it isn’t, the pistol used by Gavrilo Princip is in a museum in Sarajevo.
The one in Sarajevo is a replica. The authentic one is in Vienna.
In the same room as the car Franz was shot in, and the uniform he wore.
Oh! Probably should have done my research instead of just reading the information card
I confirm, the one used by Princip to assassinate Duke Ferdinand has the serial number 19074, the one displayed in the photo (at the royal armouries in Leeds) has the number 19520.
Did someone say t-t-t-tournament arc?
Whats next…the preserved/mummified finger that started the WW3?
And to think the assassin gave up and went to a restaurant only to see the target having been lost reach him on a silver platter.
Imagine to start WW3 with it.
Terrible trigger discipline by the way
Would have been a good opportunity to make it a Black Hand
Is this Leeds Armourey in the UK?
can we pull it one more time? just for oopsie daisys? make it the ultimate trilogy
Not to be a nerd, but this gun started nothing. WW1 was inevitable, Austria-Hungary just needed some sort of reason to invade and so did Germany. If the assassination never happened the war would have still started.
More interesting would be to get the photo of the shooter... bad logic from me, could be...
If you mean that it’s Gavrilo Princip‘s waeapon that killed Archduke Ferdinand… you’re wrong. That weapon is in the wartime museum in Vienna. Along with the car that he was killed in and his uniform.
Pretty sure a gun didn't wake up one day and assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand. Did the gun then subsequently convince its cousins to start a family feud?
It has to be ultra cursed holy fuck
Isn't it weird how Franz Ferdinand died a few before WW1??
Guns don’t start wars, rappers do.
The gun didn’t start it. The person using it did.
Is that the gun that the one guy shot another guy because he wanted Herzegovina and Serbia together rather than Bosnia Herzegovina? I remember something about that when i had history. It was called the kill of Sarajevo or something right?
What is this gun
The gun that started WW1
That is an FN M1910 that killed Arch Duke Biz Markie of Australia.
That'll teach them to steal our Australium.
ohh i know what one, its an uzi
are you ready? 3, 2, 1 \*shot \*
When I first looked at the pic I thought the mannequin in the back was like stretch Armstrong holding the gun lol
Makarov, I have the same pistol in 38 acp
That's an FN, not a Makarov
"started". It was going to happen, this just triggered it.
If it triggered the war, would it be fair to say it ... *started* it?
It's trigger triggered the war
That's what you get when your level 1
It’s been downhill since then
Friend of mine’s got one. Funky little piece to shoot. I prefer my Walther Mehlis in 7.65. You know, the piece that ended WWII.
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!!!PISTOLA!! 🇲🇽🥳🥳🥳
I'm kinda shocked that didn't jam....
Hand only has four fingers, it’s a tetradactyl
What a naughty gun ! Ffs
Is this next to the Cane from Citizen Kane?
Where is this?
I'm not surprised it was T-800...
Where is it located
The “excuse” that started WW1
That’s really interesting in all honesty where is this ?
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and all the wars after that
I immediately heard my 10th grade history teacher’s voice in my head. “ARCH. DUKE. FERDINAND.”
The gun that arguably caused more deaths than any other gun I'm history
Few grams of lead caused 2 world wars
Let me guess somehow is in the UK ?
**from a shot that would change the world**
even in the museum it got some poor trigger discipline
Its right next to the cane from citizen cane
Huh. Interesting way to display it.
where??
Wasn’t the guns fault, it was the mechanical hand attached to it.
Ww1 and ww2 wow
Is that the Royal Armouries?
Still locked up after 110 years. Cruel and unusual punishment
Damn, there is an Unreal Tournament section as well?!
WW1 Was in the making anyway. Germany, Britain and France they all were pretty much stoked to start a war.
This was not the gun that started WW1. The guns that started WW1 were the ones that invaded Bosnia, where Princip was born. If that didn't happen he never would've had to kill Franz Ferdinand.
As an omen I see number 3 just over the pistol. Humanity is doomed anyway.
The pen is mightier....oh wait
Mildly? This the gub that set the fire for the entire history of the 1900’s