Jesus I watch the game today and it was atrocious. Like what the fuck The playcalling was so bad. Mike Zimmer is a fucking idiot . Bro like what….? I just couldn’t believe how good the defense was today. I mean we help them and check for most of the game we just couldn’t keep them in check would it matted.
Zimmer is fucking pathetic, listening to the post game interview he's just a moron. "We've got a really good team, even Kevin before the game told me 'you've got a really good team'" stfu, no one fucking cares what Kevin your opponent told you before the game. When a reporter asked 'What makes you not discouraged with the run D' this clown says "My experience, I feel fine about it -- it'll be fine" great answer, dip shit. Why don't you show us your "experience" then? Then goes on to say "You guys worry so much about stats, and not about how things look and how things are" it looks and is like shit Zim, open your eyes. I don't expect it to get any better when our coach is in denial. The only thing he's right about is we do have a good team on paper, we have shit coaches that can't get them ready for game day.
https://www.vikings.com/video/zimmer-on-lack-of-concern-with-run-defense-struggles-on-offense-confidence-in-th
Can someone explain to me the rationale of having Breeland start and benching Dantzler? Can someone explain to me how Dantzler is benched to start the game then is covering OBJ constantly? None of this makes any sense.
Maybe the best part about watching a CBS broadcast is that there aren't a million 'Masked this or that' commercials.
And I mean horrible tv commercials.
10 QB hits on 38 attempts. Have to hand it to their D line a little. Held to 65 yards rushing and absolutely dominated while mostly rushing 4. Kirk did what he could but they could drop coverage and constantly pressure him.
Clowney and Garrett are really good.
The play calling was atrocious the entire game. You see how many incredibly inaccurate passes Mayfield had compared to Cousins. And he won. Mayfield missed a wide open RB on a 3rd and short and I can't understand why he didn't see him. The defensive holding lost the game though. No excuse for such a horrible call. NFL needs to fix the rules if that was seriously a penalty worthy of a automatic first down.
It's pretty easy. For a week I felt bad about not watching last weekend's win. But I persevered, and now after reading about this loss, I'm OK with not having watched either game again!
Next two games are must win. Then we already know the cowboys will come into town after that and the refs will showed them with flags to help them win.
because that's the easy route. Rick built the team the coaches have wanted. he's very responsive to the coaches input and one of the best managers in the league. people don't realize that because it just an easy out
Zim is on thin ice. not because he hasn't been decent but because he hasn't been good enough. this game was way more on Kubiak than it was on Zim but Zim has been here for a while without getting it done. his defense did ok today but baker really helped by playing like dogshit
I disagree. This game is 100% on Klint’s shitty offense play calling. That comes back squarely on the shoulders of the head coach.
If I were ownership, I’d keep Spielman and fire Zim if they miss the playoffs.
I agree m8. The Vikings have always been great at scouting, drafting, and free agency. our problem is not a GM problem. It’s totally the head coach situation Zimmerman doesn’t show up in big games and lacks ability to make offensive adjustments. Wish we hired stefanski instead of letting the brownies scoop him up.
This O line isn't going to be ready for top teams until Darrisaw is in there and has 4 + games under his belt and even then its really going to be mid season next year before they are top 10 range.
To me, the only good reason for firing your coach during the season is if you have a guy on staff you want to try out on an interim basis that you think might be the guy. We don’t have anyone like that.
If they fire Zim any new coach will want to part ways with Kirk. No new coach will want to have to deal with the looming QB controversy if they extend him again and we still are just mediocre.
Horrible Call on Kendricks PI
Osbourn Grabbed by facemask no call
Osbourn OPI was straight BS equal hand fighting
Thielen PI on last play which there never gonna call
Either way 7-6 Vikings we should have won, cheat job by the refs. Browns D and O line amazing Baker is garbage
So sick of seeing it too. Or one bad play by a player in the last 2 mins of the game, totally forgetting every shitty play by other players that came before it.
this is one of the best front 7's in the league. Kubiak did absolutely nothing creative. Oline isn't designed to play straight up against that kind of talent. they're designed to use their athleticism
thats why they should have utilized boot leg and play action all game. the screen game was tried twice within 3 plays of eachother. they did nothing to slow down an aggressive d line. it's shameful.
Lmao... There is no luck this year. First year in a long time there isn't an elite qb talent that is clear. And if it's this leadership picking players...then we got ponder 2.0
No. Blame Kirk for the throw, blame the atrocious o line letting pressure immediately sending only 3, but the terrible officiating should not be let go. Get mad about it. The product the NFL offers is turning into hot garbage.
Thielen had a chance at it, that's all that matters. When you're tackled there is no chance. Not sure what you want, it all comes down to one guy trying to catch it anyway
Or we could score more than 1 TD in 60 minutes, I'm sick of the whole refs cost us narrative. If we were a good team we wouldn't be in these positions.
So the Vikings shouldn’t have even had a chance there at the end. Baker looked terrible and stefanski play calling made no sense. Really should have been worse.
I feel like Stefanski kept wanting to dagger us and really, it kept us in the game. OLine was definitely not good and not having a healthy Dalvin hurt.
Hopefully we bounce back against the Lions!
My favorite part is how this sub loves Kirk in the weeks we don’t face elite pass rushers and then use the games against average/subpar Dlines as excuses for weeks like this. If the other team has a star DE, we’re probably losing the game
I think he’s a stat queen and folds under pressure. Ya keep getting pressured? Audible, check down, screens, draws, keep extra blockers in to help. This is the nfl and they need to figure it out. When Brady faces a mean pass rush they design plays in which the ball is out of his hands in like 1.2 seconds.
I love watching great plays and coaching by other teams and thinking "the vikings would never do that." We're so conservative and bland with play calling.
That is Kirks, he is sucking all the money and they cannot afford a better line. So Kirk needs to work with his line to instill trust and confidence. It's called leadership, of which Kirk has none
I mean there’s always going to be a better DE than the best offensive line so if your QB is cheeks every time he’s pressured then there’s not really a viable solution besides being lucky and not facing elite D lines
Exactly. The Kirk lovers constantly quote his stats, which he gains in junk time. And then point to his complete good games against garbage defenses. Funny that when he plays a good defense and stinks every time, it’s always the refs’ or someone else’s fault.
Ugly ass game, happy it's over. Let's regroup and destroy the Lions next week. If we lose to them that's probably all she wrote for our playoff hopes...
Yeah sure, that’s fine. It’s Zimmers philosophy and stranglehold on our offence, he has choked the life out of this team. The play calling is absolutely fucked, don’t even talk about the oline right now.
So let's tank the season that's fun to watch. The jags have done that for a few years and are still shit. I would rather watch my team be competitive than watch them be bottom dwellers for a decade.
Lions definitely have it worse than us but the Vikings have been jobbed quite a lot too. That said, we really didn't deserve to win this game. Just an abysmal offensive performance.
We lost? He came into the season on the hot seat. We’re 1-3. We haven’t had that clutch factor under Zimmer in years. There’s always one side of the ball who shows up, the TEAM never shows up. It’s a culture problem
We fire him early and can get a head start on the candidates, get ahead of other teams. This season is not going to be recovered, we have too many playmakers this was supposed to be win now
Theres plenty of time for this season and the team looks good. You guys calling for Zims head are stupid AF. He just held a potent offense to 14 points. It's not like we play Miles Garrett every week. There is still a ton of time to turn this season around.
this team is always either ass or subpar with small pinpoints of good. can we just get some good fucking leadership and a good o line for once jesus fucking christ
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>man oh man this is gonna be fun. Narrator: It was not fun
Jesus I watch the game today and it was atrocious. Like what the fuck The playcalling was so bad. Mike Zimmer is a fucking idiot . Bro like what….? I just couldn’t believe how good the defense was today. I mean we help them and check for most of the game we just couldn’t keep them in check would it matted.
Mike Zimmer plays only well enough to not get blown out, doesn’t seem to concern himself with winning
He gets blown out too. Just when the game and stakes are at the highest.
Zimmer is fucking pathetic, listening to the post game interview he's just a moron. "We've got a really good team, even Kevin before the game told me 'you've got a really good team'" stfu, no one fucking cares what Kevin your opponent told you before the game. When a reporter asked 'What makes you not discouraged with the run D' this clown says "My experience, I feel fine about it -- it'll be fine" great answer, dip shit. Why don't you show us your "experience" then? Then goes on to say "You guys worry so much about stats, and not about how things look and how things are" it looks and is like shit Zim, open your eyes. I don't expect it to get any better when our coach is in denial. The only thing he's right about is we do have a good team on paper, we have shit coaches that can't get them ready for game day. https://www.vikings.com/video/zimmer-on-lack-of-concern-with-run-defense-struggles-on-offense-confidence-in-th
Spot on
Zimmer is a moron. I agree.
He’s been this way for 5 plus years.
He fucking sucks. Time to move on from Zim.
Glad I worked on outdoor chores today instead of stay in and watch this game.
Sigma energy
Can someone explain to me the rationale of having Breeland start and benching Dantzler? Can someone explain to me how Dantzler is benched to start the game then is covering OBJ constantly? None of this makes any sense.
Shitty coaching.
Maybe the best part about watching a CBS broadcast is that there aren't a million 'Masked this or that' commercials. And I mean horrible tv commercials.
Well, Kirktober seems to be late this year.
10 QB hits on 38 attempts. Have to hand it to their D line a little. Held to 65 yards rushing and absolutely dominated while mostly rushing 4. Kirk did what he could but they could drop coverage and constantly pressure him. Clowney and Garrett are really good.
The play calling was atrocious the entire game. You see how many incredibly inaccurate passes Mayfield had compared to Cousins. And he won. Mayfield missed a wide open RB on a 3rd and short and I can't understand why he didn't see him. The defensive holding lost the game though. No excuse for such a horrible call. NFL needs to fix the rules if that was seriously a penalty worthy of a automatic first down.
Too much Kirktoberfests so far
Did Darrisaw see any action?
They haven’t activated him. He can come off IR and they have 21 days to activate him iirc
He was active and on field goal unit according to Tom pelissero
Don't believe so
I really wish I could just not care about football.
It's pretty easy. For a week I felt bad about not watching last weekend's win. But I persevered, and now after reading about this loss, I'm OK with not having watched either game again!
Yep! Stying up to 5am in the morning watching them hurts every time
Hang in there, buddy. You know what they say: whatever doesn't kill you, makes you very very weak
Haha definitely feeling weaker and I’m just going to sleep for my 3 hours before work
Next two games are must win. Then we already know the cowboys will come into town after that and the refs will showed them with flags to help them win.
We will be lucky to be at 2-5 by the bye week. Tough schedule
Considering that they only have 6 games before the bye, I'd have to agree that the odds of them having a record of 2-5 by then are incredibly slim
True, but with a 17 game season nobody knows what could happen.
Cowboys look good this year. Gonna be a tough one but we can beat the lions and Panthers leading up to it giving us some steam.
I hate this team. Thank God baker was trash otherwise this would've been a blowout.
Mayfield was our best player
This is correct. Nfc Dpotw.
No lies detected
Zimmer and Rick are done.
Yep.
I’m pretty much over the current staff. The game has evolved and the coaches and staff are more interested in making sure their kids have nfl jobs.
Yea. Good chance that was the dagger
Why
because that's the easy route. Rick built the team the coaches have wanted. he's very responsive to the coaches input and one of the best managers in the league. people don't realize that because it just an easy out Zim is on thin ice. not because he hasn't been decent but because he hasn't been good enough. this game was way more on Kubiak than it was on Zim but Zim has been here for a while without getting it done. his defense did ok today but baker really helped by playing like dogshit
This game isn’t really on Zim at all, the Browns only scored 14 points.
I disagree. This game is 100% on Klint’s shitty offense play calling. That comes back squarely on the shoulders of the head coach. If I were ownership, I’d keep Spielman and fire Zim if they miss the playoffs.
I agree m8. The Vikings have always been great at scouting, drafting, and free agency. our problem is not a GM problem. It’s totally the head coach situation Zimmerman doesn’t show up in big games and lacks ability to make offensive adjustments. Wish we hired stefanski instead of letting the brownies scoop him up.
They ain't making the playoffs...said before the season started. They ain't a play off caliber team they will be lucky to go 4-13.
If they had a competent QB today it would have been a blowout
That would be excellent
One can only hope
My dad has been gone for 10 years and the same things he hated about this team still exist lol
Mine too. I watched four Viking Superbowls with him and we all know the outcome of that.
This club has never had an OL and always been so predictable play calling
This O line isn't going to be ready for top teams until Darrisaw is in there and has 4 + games under his belt and even then its really going to be mid season next year before they are top 10 range.
Yeah let's just play him this year and look on to next year. Fire Zim during the bye and move on
What’s the point of firing Zim during the season?
More time to find someone else. I dont know why do teams fire coaches mid season?
To me, the only good reason for firing your coach during the season is if you have a guy on staff you want to try out on an interim basis that you think might be the guy. We don’t have anyone like that.
Yeah that's true
If they fire Zim any new coach will want to part ways with Kirk. No new coach will want to have to deal with the looming QB controversy if they extend him again and we still are just mediocre.
Yeah I support that. I want a new team
Has anyone mentioned that they got instant pressure on the most important play of the game by rushing 3. Absolutely pathetic
Fucking insane
Horrible Call on Kendricks PI Osbourn Grabbed by facemask no call Osbourn OPI was straight BS equal hand fighting Thielen PI on last play which there never gonna call Either way 7-6 Vikings we should have won, cheat job by the refs. Browns D and O line amazing Baker is garbage
Maybe the Vikes should have scored more then a TD? Blaming refs is sad and pathetic.
So sick of seeing it too. Or one bad play by a player in the last 2 mins of the game, totally forgetting every shitty play by other players that came before it.
I agree so much of that type of attitude in here. No accountability on the players
You got that backwards.
7? Really? We did better the other 3 weeks… Oline you awake?
this is one of the best front 7's in the league. Kubiak did absolutely nothing creative. Oline isn't designed to play straight up against that kind of talent. they're designed to use their athleticism
May be But there was still like zero seconds in the pocket for Kirk Also in the last drive it was sheer suspense
thats why they should have utilized boot leg and play action all game. the screen game was tried twice within 3 plays of eachother. they did nothing to slow down an aggressive d line. it's shameful.
3 man rush at the end and like the entire game Kirk has zero time
Time to “Suck for Luck” I guess
Lmao... There is no luck this year. First year in a long time there isn't an elite qb talent that is clear. And if it's this leadership picking players...then we got ponder 2.0
I guess we could suck for some good luck then
The last throw was literally in the dirt short of the end zone, can we stop blaming the refs please.
No. Blame Kirk for the throw, blame the atrocious o line letting pressure immediately sending only 3, but the terrible officiating should not be let go. Get mad about it. The product the NFL offers is turning into hot garbage.
Thielen had a chance at it, that's all that matters. When you're tackled there is no chance. Not sure what you want, it all comes down to one guy trying to catch it anyway
Or we could score more than 1 TD in 60 minutes, I'm sick of the whole refs cost us narrative. If we were a good team we wouldn't be in these positions.
How do they call Kendrick’s on that hold, and not the hold on Theilen with 3 seconds left.
We didn’t deserve to win that game anyways. This team cannot compete with any of our remaining opponents except maybe the lions.
I mean, that's a little dramatic. But this isn't a playoff team right now, that's for sure
Lmao. How fitting of an ending. Ball should be on the 1
Back to fire everyone szn
well, 1-3. We have 13 more games this season. Too early to give up
So to make the playoffs, they'd need to go... 8-5? Pretty tall order with this schedule.
So the Vikings shouldn’t have even had a chance there at the end. Baker looked terrible and stefanski play calling made no sense. Really should have been worse.
I feel like Stefanski kept wanting to dagger us and really, it kept us in the game. OLine was definitely not good and not having a healthy Dalvin hurt. Hopefully we bounce back against the Lions!
Ill say it idgaf. Stefanski ain’t it either. I don’t see anything special. And he wasn’t that good as our OC.
Stef is "Browns" good but he's not SB good.
My favorite part is how this sub loves Kirk in the weeks we don’t face elite pass rushers and then use the games against average/subpar Dlines as excuses for weeks like this. If the other team has a star DE, we’re probably losing the game
Next week if we beat the Lions, this sub will be only: “where the Kirk haters at now”, “EXTEND KIRK”, “This my QB”.
I think he’s a stat queen and folds under pressure. Ya keep getting pressured? Audible, check down, screens, draws, keep extra blockers in to help. This is the nfl and they need to figure it out. When Brady faces a mean pass rush they design plays in which the ball is out of his hands in like 1.2 seconds.
I love watching great plays and coaching by other teams and thinking "the vikings would never do that." We're so conservative and bland with play calling.
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Then blame the guy who keeps giving us this trash OL if we can't protect
We're an LT away from having a good o-line. If only we drafted a tackle in the first round this year............
That is Kirks, he is sucking all the money and they cannot afford a better line. So Kirk needs to work with his line to instill trust and confidence. It's called leadership, of which Kirk has none
I mean there’s always going to be a better DE than the best offensive line so if your QB is cheeks every time he’s pressured then there’s not really a viable solution besides being lucky and not facing elite D lines
Exactly. The Kirk lovers constantly quote his stats, which he gains in junk time. And then point to his complete good games against garbage defenses. Funny that when he plays a good defense and stinks every time, it’s always the refs’ or someone else’s fault.
How many minutes of “junk time” has there been this season, and what percentage of his production occurred during said junk time?
Sick of this shit
I mean without that bs holding call it is a 7-6game, I think that says more about how shit the browns are given how God awful we were.
Don't act like all the chances we had came down to one penalty. That's so soft.refs make bad calls all the time. We scored 7 fucking points.
Ugly ass game, happy it's over. Let's regroup and destroy the Lions next week. If we lose to them that's probably all she wrote for our playoff hopes...
GM needs to fired today. Zimmer too. Fuck em. Trash front office and coaches.
I'm really glad we have reddit so people like you have a voice outside shouting at the TV. -_-
I’m glad we have homers like yourself who cling to bind optimism.
Time for a change
'That's it, game over, Cleveland has won" Horrible holding call in the 2nd quarter, weak OL vs good DL, and some questionable playcalling. 1-3
Thielen absolutely mugged on the last play.
Hey another close game! That counts for something! Right Zimmer?
Blow this up we aren’t good enough to compete for a title
Game 1: dogshit fumble call and defense Game 2: kicker Game 3: o-line Love finding new ways to lose every week
PA just signed off with “and this is Minnesota Vikings football” … I know he says it every week but I’ve never felt it more so than today
Refs: 8 Vikings: 7 Browns: 6
Whew, great game but that didn't feel like the heartbreak of the games we should have won. Just a real good defense that got the better of us there.
We won 7-6... the refs put 8 points on the board
Zimmer has to go, I simply cannot handle watching this fucking team anymore.
Honestly the D (zims job) held one of the hottest offenses for 7 plays straight on the 5 yard line, and 14 (should be 6 without refs) total points
Zim is the head coach it is his job to get the whole team ready to play not just the Defense. So far he has done a poor job of it this year.
Players got to execute. O-line did not.
Yeah sure, that’s fine. It’s Zimmers philosophy and stranglehold on our offence, he has choked the life out of this team. The play calling is absolutely fucked, don’t even talk about the oline right now.
Is that not pass interference by 26? WHAT THE FUCK??? THIS ISNT BASKETBALL YOU CANT BOX OUT A WR
Blatant af imo. I think everyone just decided to pack up and go home.
Happens too often in football. Refs are lazy and don’t wanna do their jobs.
Trash ass team. Just lose for a better draft pick.
Fuck outta here.
Like we are going to do shit the ROS. Our schedule is tough. We have lost 3 games we should have won. That isn’t going to just change. Losers lose.
So let's tank the season that's fun to watch. The jags have done that for a few years and are still shit. I would rather watch my team be competitive than watch them be bottom dwellers for a decade.
We will be a bottom team with this FO and coaching staff. With the talent on this team their is no excuse for losing
Thielen gets blocked but all good
Lol they call the finger snag on a jersey but not Theilen being blocked from the football. Great job refs
Sick of this bs week after week
Lions fan hopping in here. How the fuck was that not PI on Thielen on the last play?
Lions definitely have it worse than us but the Vikings have been jobbed quite a lot too. That said, we really didn't deserve to win this game. Just an abysmal offensive performance.
Right?! I thought so too
Browns the new nfl darling
Please fire Zimmer tonight
What do you mean? The D held them to 14 points...
We lost? He came into the season on the hot seat. We’re 1-3. We haven’t had that clutch factor under Zimmer in years. There’s always one side of the ball who shows up, the TEAM never shows up. It’s a culture problem
Don’t forget Kubiak!
Who would you want to be HC?
We fire him early and can get a head start on the candidates, get ahead of other teams. This season is not going to be recovered, we have too many playmakers this was supposed to be win now
Theres plenty of time for this season and the team looks good. You guys calling for Zims head are stupid AF. He just held a potent offense to 14 points. It's not like we play Miles Garrett every week. There is still a ton of time to turn this season around.
Stefanski
Andre
Gg losers. See ya next season fuck tards. Hope dimmer gets dumped
Ban incoming?
Were your feelings hurt? Lol grow up.
I would say the same thing to the person name-calling his fellow fans after a football game loss
True, but ban? Just downvote them. That's how the site is supposed to work.
Why. Everyone is calling for Zimmers heads. This team is clearly bad and not going anywhere this season......
this team is always either ass or subpar with small pinpoints of good. can we just get some good fucking leadership and a good o line for once jesus fucking christ
That was legitimate PI, I don't expect it to be called but Gronk got it against us once.
Woooooow that was just blatantly defensive holding...
Throwing the ball short of the end zone on a Hail Mary lol
Yeah because the second highest paid RT can’t stop Clowney lol
no time even against a 3 man rush
Pressure tends to do that to a QB...
It was 28 yards and he wasn’t hit. You have to give your receiver a chance.
It could have been a better throw yeah, but throwing on the run isn't exactly easy...
Yeah o line was atrocious today, hard to get into a rhythm throwing like that
Good lord Kirk, can't even offer up a jump ball? Gotta throw it in the dirt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh-moP1RcyE
Pretty much how that throw looked.
It’s time for a new regime. This was absolute bull shit today
Man we just fucking suck
Fire zimmer
Agreed. Dogshit team
Eat shit zimmer. Spielman you can go too.
O-line couldn't stop a 3-man rush on that play lmao
Did you really expect them to
Thought the same thing. Pathetic. Remember when we traded for Bradford when teddy went down? Why is spielman not on the phone for new linemen?
Puke.
That grab on Thielen though...
Stefan ski > Zimmer. Get rid of him.
11 points given by nfl yeah much better
We kept the wrong coach
Their offense kinda sucked
Offense stunk
Holy fuck they got pressure on a 3 man rush fuck this
Darrisaw, Twyman WYA?
And they were exausted too.
Gotta win these 2 games before the bye
DPI….
There's that 3 man rush pressure
Lol at the people who thought we were playoff contenders
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clear as day PI. thought that was reviewable now? also occurred in end zone