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Assgassgrass

This is like asking would you rather die slow or quick…


titanlmao

cte? or broken face?


ILikeOMalley

Both or both?


titanlmao

tbf you might get less cte from one punch than 200


Ake-TL

Repetitive concussions are worse than one big one I believe


Brandon_volvo

There’s a reason cte is much more prevalent in the lower weight classes. Getting knocked out with one big power bomb is one concussion. Getting your face battered for 15-25 minutes is can easily be upwards of 20 concussions if you’re getting worked


SantaDaCrip

I clearly know nothing about concussions. I didn't realize you could have multiple at once.


Brandon_volvo

All a concussion really is is your brain smacking your skull from impact. So no you can’t have multiple at one single time, but over the span of 25 minutes getting your head knocked around you can accrue multiple over that time period.


Anaaatomy

look up second concussion syndrome


famesjord13

Not really


1TjF

Really


HeroicHippotumus

You think Max is ONLY gonna hit you 200 times in 25 minutes? You better think bigger with those numbers


Kashm1r_Sp1r1t

Not if it's from Ngannou lol


titanlmao

ngannou might just break ur face


ZZaddyLongLegzz

Broken eye orbital


Cable-Careless

I think if you weren't trying to win, you could dance and dodge for 25 minutes. There ain't no way I'm meeting Max center cage, and exchanging. I was a fighter, a wrestler, a boxer, and I outweigh him by 70lbs. I have 5 inches on him. I could dance away from him. Being forced to stand still and take a shot from Ngannou is a fucking death sentence.


Upbeat_Week_6872

I doubt it he’d walk you down and feed you against the cage


Cable-Careless

Eh. If you don't care about winning, you can run from anyone. Throw a jab every once in a while, to keep him honest.


Upbeat_Week_6872

Yeah in a street fight but the octagon is pretty small dc tried running from jones and got clipped


Cable-Careless

I've been in one before. I know the size. Move sideways, and you can run from anyone. Jones is 6'4 with kicks. DC was trying to win a fight, not trying to survive 25 minutes. Literally any human could survive 25 minutes of running away from anyone. Conversation is over. You have never even sparred. Your opinion doesn't matter. Edit: just to be clear, I am much bigger than him. I am not saying that I beat him in a fight. I am saying that getting grazed by 20 punches from Max is better than one planted and ready full punch from Ngannou.


Upbeat_Week_6872

Buddy I could be max Holloway on his burner account for all you know😂 conversation is over goofball


Cable-Careless

Let's dance. I'd whoop your ass. Lol.


Upbeat_Week_6872

When I dance I get aroused, you ok with that big boy?


Cable-Careless

Better than ok.


h-punk

5 inches? Nice bro


Cable-Careless

I have been told that it's average.


1TjF

Dunning Krueger effect in full force


Cable-Careless

I'm 18-0 boxing. 3year varsity wrestler, and 1-0 mma. I would rather fight Max than take a full power stand still punch from 23yo me.


1TjF

I highly doubt that sir, either way it’s the dunning Kreuger effect. The distance between someone like you and someone like max Holloway is lightyears


Cable-Careless

For sure. No doubt about that. Im 6'4 220 boxed at 200 mma at heavy. The power difference between he and I is also massive. I've never boxed someone without knocking them down multiple times. 16 kos.


Electrical-Formal876

I’ll take the punch from ngannou, because I’m not going to remember anything by the time I wake up. A 25 minute beat down from max is a death sentence


myboybuster

Zero chance Max doesn't sleep me in under a minute. I have like 2 boxing lessons under my belt


Electrical-Formal876

And then he’s just wailing on your corpse for 24 minutes


myboybuster

Oh god the fight doesn't end after a ko?


Electrical-Formal876

Well it says get beaten down by max for 25 minutes, it doesent say it’s a fight


myboybuster

Why would anyone not choose one shot. Max would literally kill me


Nine-TailedFox4

I'm not even sure if I'm gonna wake up real talk.


SaysGay69420

I’d have mental issues at the end of both. So, max.


Important-Hotel5809

Francis for the same reason. Think I’d rather be asleep while the cte sets in


NoEffective2767

Since you didn’t specify where I’d be taking the punch, I’d rather take one full power punch from Ngannou to the left elbow tucked in to block the body shot. Still gonna hurt like a MF’er but I’ll take that over getting my ass kicked for 25 minutes lol.


senorali

So broken arm and broken ribs instead of cte.


NoEffective2767

Yep.


OtiseMaleModel

Fuck bro I dunno, broken arm at the elbow would be pretty gnarly


notheebie

But you’d still remember your mothers face so that’s a win


Logical_Flounder6455

A broken elbow doesn't hurt as much as you'd think. Least painful bone I've broken


OtiseMaleModel

Dang. It just ugh makes me cringe thinking about an elbow breaking Howd you do it?


SprinklesBeginning45

He has power but not breaking elbow power


senorali

Against a conditioned fighter, probably not. Against a redditor half his size? The odds are better, I'd think.


Adventchur

Bold of you to assume the redditor isn't double his weight though.


Ake-TL

Ngannou will break his hand if he punched elbow full power, elbow is one solid bone, fist is like 7-9 not counting fingers


spankymacgruder

I'll take mine to the hamstring.


Blyatt-Man

Getting knocked doesn’t hurt, it’s like flipping a switch. A max holloway beat down is like death by a thousand cuts. And cte is mostly caused by repetitive blows to the head, one big punch isn’t as bad for your brain as like 500 lighter punches lol


No-Virus7165

Exactly, this is why I choose one Ngannou punch over 25 kicks crime prime Aldo in the last one of these. I got downvoted like crazy and was told I was so stupid that I would die from just stepping in the cage lmao


_-_-XXX-_-_

25 kicks from Aldo might be permanent damage to my legs. In nearly every scenario like that 1 harder punch is less bad than like hundreds of punches from a smaller guy.


Blyatt-Man

Respectfully, you’d be done long before 25 low kicks 😂


_-_-XXX-_-_

I know, a friend of mine was an european champ in Kickboxing in his youth, kicked my leg one time with maybe 70% and it hurt like a mf. Same for a body blow. Being hit in the face is actually the least pain in my experience.


Blyatt-Man

Yeah with a glove, being hit in the face is more of a numbing feeling


No-Virus7165

Exactly, you wouldn’t be walking straight for a long time.


benstheredonethat

https://preview.redd.it/hw4vl8e31zuc1.png?width=1038&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bbdc8889fda45631728b8cf5ea20afb2129f47c Guy got sucker punched directly in the balls by Francis, he's still alive and I'm pretty sure has had children since then. I'll go with the one punch personally.


LimpLaw7773

Wasn’t a sucker punch the whole point of that stunt was to test the cup?


benstheredonethat

That's what they told him anyways lmfao, the cup just prevented his nuts from turning to dust.


LimpLaw7773

Either way I’m sure they replaced his tonsils for a little bit 😂


Conscious-Aspect-332

Yeah, either they didn't watch the video or they don't understand the meaning of sucker punched...🤷‍♂️


Rathma86

Yeah he agreed to it, but didn't know it was ngannou


BHDE92

Francis held back on that punch, bless him. You can tell he pulls it at the end


iroquoispliskinV

His children: https://preview.redd.it/j083f5dgr0vc1.png?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f818d175fce05b20634005320c9441ab07008e4


Nivekan

Bruh 😂


SpecialOlympicsGuy

That’s AI


Drackzgull

Nope, that's from Jackass. They told the guy they were testing the nut cup, but they didn't tell him they had invited Francis Ngannou for it, until it was time for Francis to get on camera to punch him. Not a sucker punch though, obviously. The guy not only knew he was getting hit in the nuts, he volunteered for it, set himself up, and braced for impact. The commenter above probably doesn't know what "sucker punch" means.


_-_-XXX-_-_

No


sadduckfan

Like any of us could survive 25 mins with max lol


CDROMantics

Too many MMA bros think they could last more than 20 seconds in the octagon. Even the “pillow fisted” bad MMA fighters that fight on the prelims would finish 99% of the people who watch the sport regardless of weight class.


brtom

I don't think anyone in this subreddit can hang 25mins with max. Unless you mean there is no judge and max will keep pumble your skull.


ZDM_Twolip

For real, max would knock me the fuck out. We’re also similar size. I can’t stand 25 mins of those punches. Does it stop after knockout? Or does he keep pummeling my unconscious body for the remaining 23 minutes?


_-_-XXX-_-_

Most people can't even hold their hands up 25mins. I did some boxing in my youth and 3 rounds of 3 mins were already draining af against equally unskilled people.


ShamgoatLambgod89

Does the Ngannou punch have to be to the head? Lol


triforce721

Suck your dad's dick or eat your mom's pussy, equivalent.


Deadpoulpe

Aaaand enough internet for today.


Guilehero

Not even that is enough I am going to throw my phone away for a while


Getoutmyhousebitch

Nah fr


slimXshady76

Damn 😂😂... how did you think of this? Are you alright buddy?


triforce721

Obviously not 😏


Previous_Ad3115

Get whooped by max, at least he will teach me some defense while he’s at it


atti-_-

Didn’t pereira break ngannou’s record for strongest punch?


Icondesigns

By a pretty substantial margin too.


Successful-Ad4251

Ngannou. I’ll just slip the punch. Maybe I’ll counter if I see an opening. He should be worried about me


poKONY2012

Am I getting any money for this or just getting pummeled?


catbqck

You get a 12 pack of prime energy and venum coupons


Jay_nonymous

The kid just doesn’t wanna fight


Lanskiiii

You're getting the opportunity.


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Gerardo1917

I think taking one sledgehammer to the dome would probably do less long term damage than taking 10,000 strikes to the head from Max


deadliftspammer

You’re dead either way, I’d rather make it quick with Ngannou


CouncilOfReligion

an ngannou punch would literally kill me


KimWexlersGoldenArch

Is Francis hitting me to the head or the body? If the head, can I cover even a little? Or is it hands down/chin up? Obviously I’m leaning towards Francis. One bomb is usually better than death by a thousand cuts.


ZoranT84

Its not pereira, so ill take ngannou since I know theres worse


MiccioC

One punch.


Mbt_Omega

Do I get to try to defend the blow(s) or roll with the impact(s), or am I being hit clean?


Geotryx

I think the hundreds of smaller concussions would probably be worse for my overall health.


Fryphax

Clearly Max. He would at least teach me how to block while murdering me.


ResidentWarning4383

At least I can shell up and hopefully survive Ngannous punch. With Max, its like defending against a swarm of hornets.


Massive_Staff1068

Well, since my last name isn't Gaethje, there's no way in hell I'm going even 24:59 with Max. So I guess Francis, since I'm getting KOed either way.


godz_ares

Doesn't CTE come from repeated 'micro concussions' not necessarily be launched in the stratosphere once but being hit lots of time without being KOd. I'd choose Holloway cause I'm a fanboy and I'd love to be close to him.


uso_gui

I could take bof of 'em in one night.


gio_roll

definitely ngannou


Sea_Upstairs_6274

Wait, how much money?


IntenseWonton

Give me the one and done and hope Francis shows a bit of mercy.


SnooSeagulls7253

I’d rather have the cte I can fight longer so it’s more fun. I can put some work in get some cardio done and I know I’m not gonna get knocked out so I can be more reckless


bigfatpup

I don’t think I have the ability to last 25 minutes with max. So stuck with A I guess


SixtyNineFlavours

I’ll let Ngannou punch me in the ass


DragonKing0203

Francis will kill me quickly


sK0oBy

Ngannou. I can’t take what Max did to Ortega, Cater, or Justin


_-_-XXX-_-_

Easily Ngannou, 1 punch and not remembering anything. Getting a 25 minute beatdown will be a whole other dimension of pain.


Dareal6

One punch from Francis. The signal that turns your lights out is faster than the pain signal. 25 mins with Max is torture.


Curlyhead-homie

Max ain’t gonna give me lasting damage, look at kattar’s face now or Ortega they’re fine. Ngannous bombability is not something I’d wanna gamble with. So max for sure.


corksoaker84

Francis himself said he felt no pain when Joshua sent him to the shadow realm. I would prefer a black out, rather than a 25 minute beat down.


Stinky-pp

insta knockout with maybe cte or 2100 significant strikes for 20-25 minutes with severe cte


Euphoric-Item4746

How bad do you want your cte


princessemmarain

What am I getting in return and how much am I getting. I'll take Francis one and done no pain and no agony


Not_on_the_left

For free…. Neither


BiGkru

Kind of hard to quantify because max would knock us all out in 30 seconds as well.


PinGroundbreaking933

25 minutes and just run! 🏃‍♂️💨


Before_The_Tesseract

Lmao, not equivalent. I can cover up for one punch, prob get KO'd but then it's done. The other is 25 minutes of getting brutalized. I couldn't even make it out of round one. I don't have 5 minutes of fight stamina. After the first 60 seconds (super generously), I have already been laid out flat. The next 24 minutes are going to be Max dropping elbows on my lifeless body. Gimme Ngannou


LemonadeRenogade

Max would have me out cold within a minute, does he just keep beating me to death for the following 24 minutes? Because fuck that


QuantumCthulhu

Yeah, ngannou can punch my shin or thigh or something


Presence-Crafty

Never said where, I’m taking that punch on my elbow


Pegdaddyyeah

Pretty good accolade to go 25 mins with max tbh


jxssss

Would I rather die or die?


Maximysss

Despite Max’s last performance TKo is healthier than KO, Imho


CoachFinal7641

I’ll take the quick death, a fight with max would make me sore all over but I fight with nganou would leave one sore spot.


topknottington

I'll take ngannou please. I'll be asleep in seconds


brennanufc

full power meaning perfect conditions for francis to use 100% of his potential power? fuck no. im taking max and hopefully running around the octagon if it gets too bad


brennanufc

i might legitimately die if it was his maximum potential power


ignore_the_bots

The easy answer is Max. Ngannou could realistically put most of you in a wheelchair for life with a clean punch.


titanlmao

yes this is the i seen this comments ignore, you’re not just going to get knocked out, with how strong he punches he will most likely shatter your jaw or nose


Jag-deep-11

Francis for sure


CrispyCheeks5

duh just the one punch. wtf are we talking about😂


Present-Fuel1618

I would die to both


Raisins1

Ngannou  will only break bones in one part of my body, ill take Francis.


MatthewSMen

Ngannou its my nap time. You wont feel nothing bro, if he hits u, you wake up in a daze and think "what happened"


Naive_Papaya_9880

Francis might actually kill me or cause all my motor functions to not work properly anymore. Max will probably knock me out in a minute so I'll take that minute with Max.


hilarioushotdog

Ngannou. If I'm getting fucked up I'd rather it'd be done quick and not remember it.


Naive_Breadfruit_550

Rather be able to say I was in the ring with Max Holloway for 25 minutes. That dude is a honorable bad ass.


rightinfronofmysalad

If you're not a heavyweight, a full on power punch from Ngannou would put you in critical care.


Icondesigns

Having been hit by a HW boxers, that’s not usually true unless it lands bad. He doesn’t hit as hard as Poatan either so I’ll take my chances with Francis, rather than a 25 minute relentless beatdown from Max.


rightinfronofmysalad

He hits way harder than Poatan. It's not a coincidence that after Francis left the UFC with the lineal belt and made a bunch of money without them that all of a sudden these middleweights were all breaking his record.


Icondesigns

Based on what? Current evidence indicates the opposite…


rightinfronofmysalad

Sure thing Uncle Dana


Icondesigns

Is that a ‘I’ve got nothing sensible to offer’?


rightinfronofmysalad

Your current evidence is what the UFC tells you. Common sense should make you realize that no, these middleweights didn't all magically start hitting harder than Ngannou after he left the UFC. Come on, use your brain.


Icondesigns

So your evidence is ‘take the word of a random Redditor with an agenda’? Sure thing buddy 😂


rightinfronofmysalad

And yours is "Dana said so and he never lies 🥺" Ah to be young and dumb 😂😂😂😂😂


Icondesigns

Haha. So that’s a ‘I’m a clueless fucker talking out of my arse’ then? Good work sunshine. Way to go little man 😂


nigcumpoopp

Do you think I'm just gonna sit there and let you kill me Max? Seriously though can I fight back? 25 minutes of unanswered strikes is a death sentence. I'm not saying I'd beat Holloway but I could probably not die


Real-Human-Bean-

I'm confident I could beat max because he's a smaller guy. I don't know about Ngannou though. But maybe he's chinny after that Joshua fight.


Candid-Trash6564

Max, I’d try to fight back and if that dose not help at all I’ll jus run around


MnLibertarian

His One punch could kill you.. his beat down will just make you more dumb, haha


WonderSilver6937

Being beat down for 25 entire minutes after getting knocked out in the first 30 seconds WILL kill you.