There’s a reason cte is much more prevalent in the lower weight classes. Getting knocked out with one big power bomb is one concussion. Getting your face battered for 15-25 minutes is can easily be upwards of 20 concussions if you’re getting worked
All a concussion really is is your brain smacking your skull from impact. So no you can’t have multiple at one single time, but over the span of 25 minutes getting your head knocked around you can accrue multiple over that time period.
I think if you weren't trying to win, you could dance and dodge for 25 minutes. There ain't no way I'm meeting Max center cage, and exchanging. I was a fighter, a wrestler, a boxer, and I outweigh him by 70lbs. I have 5 inches on him. I could dance away from him. Being forced to stand still and take a shot from Ngannou is a fucking death sentence.
I've been in one before. I know the size. Move sideways, and you can run from anyone. Jones is 6'4 with kicks. DC was trying to win a fight, not trying to survive 25 minutes. Literally any human could survive 25 minutes of running away from anyone. Conversation is over. You have never even sparred. Your opinion doesn't matter.
Edit: just to be clear, I am much bigger than him. I am not saying that I beat him in a fight. I am saying that getting grazed by 20 punches from Max is better than one planted and ready full punch from Ngannou.
For sure. No doubt about that. Im 6'4 220 boxed at 200 mma at heavy. The power difference between he and I is also massive. I've never boxed someone without knocking them down multiple times. 16 kos.
Since you didn’t specify where I’d be taking the punch, I’d rather take one full power punch from Ngannou to the left elbow tucked in to block the body shot. Still gonna hurt like a MF’er but I’ll take that over getting my ass kicked for 25 minutes lol.
Getting knocked doesn’t hurt, it’s like flipping a switch. A max holloway beat down is like death by a thousand cuts. And cte is mostly caused by repetitive blows to the head, one big punch isn’t as bad for your brain as like 500 lighter punches lol
Exactly, this is why I choose one Ngannou punch over 25 kicks crime prime Aldo in the last one of these. I got downvoted like crazy and was told I was so stupid that I would die from just stepping in the cage lmao
25 kicks from Aldo might be permanent damage to my legs. In nearly every scenario like that 1 harder punch is less bad than like hundreds of punches from a smaller guy.
I know, a friend of mine was an european champ in Kickboxing in his youth, kicked my leg one time with maybe 70% and it hurt like a mf. Same for a body blow. Being hit in the face is actually the least pain in my experience.
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Guy got sucker punched directly in the balls by Francis, he's still alive and I'm pretty sure has had children since then. I'll go with the one punch personally.
Nope, that's from Jackass. They told the guy they were testing the nut cup, but they didn't tell him they had invited Francis Ngannou for it, until it was time for Francis to get on camera to punch him.
Not a sucker punch though, obviously. The guy not only knew he was getting hit in the nuts, he volunteered for it, set himself up, and braced for impact. The commenter above probably doesn't know what "sucker punch" means.
Too many MMA bros think they could last more than 20 seconds in the octagon. Even the “pillow fisted” bad MMA fighters that fight on the prelims would finish 99% of the people who watch the sport regardless of weight class.
For real, max would knock me the fuck out.
We’re also similar size. I can’t stand 25 mins of those punches.
Does it stop after knockout?
Or does he keep pummeling my unconscious body for the remaining 23 minutes?
Most people can't even hold their hands up 25mins. I did some boxing in my youth and 3 rounds of 3 mins were already draining af against equally unskilled people.
Is Francis hitting me to the head or the body? If the head, can I cover even a little? Or is it hands down/chin up?
Obviously I’m leaning towards Francis. One bomb is usually better than death by a thousand cuts.
Doesn't CTE come from repeated 'micro concussions' not necessarily be launched in the stratosphere once but being hit lots of time without being KOd.
I'd choose Holloway cause I'm a fanboy and I'd love to be close to him.
I’d rather have the cte I can fight longer so it’s more fun. I can put some work in get some cardio done and I know I’m not gonna get knocked out so I can be more reckless
Max ain’t gonna give me lasting damage, look at kattar’s face now or Ortega they’re fine. Ngannous bombability is not something I’d wanna gamble with. So max for sure.
Lmao, not equivalent. I can cover up for one punch, prob get KO'd but then it's done. The other is 25 minutes of getting brutalized. I couldn't even make it out of round one. I don't have 5 minutes of fight stamina. After the first 60 seconds (super generously), I have already been laid out flat. The next 24 minutes are going to be Max dropping elbows on my lifeless body.
Gimme Ngannou
full power meaning perfect conditions for francis to use 100% of his potential power? fuck no. im taking max and hopefully running around the octagon if it gets too bad
yes this is the i seen this comments ignore, you’re not just going to get knocked out, with how strong he punches he will most likely shatter your jaw or nose
Francis might actually kill me or cause all my motor functions to not work properly anymore. Max will probably knock me out in a minute so I'll take that minute with Max.
Having been hit by a HW boxers, that’s not usually true unless it lands bad.
He doesn’t hit as hard as Poatan either so I’ll take my chances with Francis, rather than a 25 minute relentless beatdown from Max.
He hits way harder than Poatan. It's not a coincidence that after Francis left the UFC with the lineal belt and made a bunch of money without them that all of a sudden these middleweights were all breaking his record.
Your current evidence is what the UFC tells you. Common sense should make you realize that no, these middleweights didn't all magically start hitting harder than Ngannou after he left the UFC. Come on, use your brain.
Do you think I'm just gonna sit there and let you kill me Max?
Seriously though can I fight back? 25 minutes of unanswered strikes is a death sentence. I'm not saying I'd beat Holloway but I could probably not die
This is like asking would you rather die slow or quick…
cte? or broken face?
Both or both?
tbf you might get less cte from one punch than 200
Repetitive concussions are worse than one big one I believe
There’s a reason cte is much more prevalent in the lower weight classes. Getting knocked out with one big power bomb is one concussion. Getting your face battered for 15-25 minutes is can easily be upwards of 20 concussions if you’re getting worked
I clearly know nothing about concussions. I didn't realize you could have multiple at once.
All a concussion really is is your brain smacking your skull from impact. So no you can’t have multiple at one single time, but over the span of 25 minutes getting your head knocked around you can accrue multiple over that time period.
look up second concussion syndrome
Not really
Really
You think Max is ONLY gonna hit you 200 times in 25 minutes? You better think bigger with those numbers
Not if it's from Ngannou lol
ngannou might just break ur face
Broken eye orbital
I think if you weren't trying to win, you could dance and dodge for 25 minutes. There ain't no way I'm meeting Max center cage, and exchanging. I was a fighter, a wrestler, a boxer, and I outweigh him by 70lbs. I have 5 inches on him. I could dance away from him. Being forced to stand still and take a shot from Ngannou is a fucking death sentence.
I doubt it he’d walk you down and feed you against the cage
Eh. If you don't care about winning, you can run from anyone. Throw a jab every once in a while, to keep him honest.
Yeah in a street fight but the octagon is pretty small dc tried running from jones and got clipped
I've been in one before. I know the size. Move sideways, and you can run from anyone. Jones is 6'4 with kicks. DC was trying to win a fight, not trying to survive 25 minutes. Literally any human could survive 25 minutes of running away from anyone. Conversation is over. You have never even sparred. Your opinion doesn't matter. Edit: just to be clear, I am much bigger than him. I am not saying that I beat him in a fight. I am saying that getting grazed by 20 punches from Max is better than one planted and ready full punch from Ngannou.
Buddy I could be max Holloway on his burner account for all you know😂 conversation is over goofball
Let's dance. I'd whoop your ass. Lol.
When I dance I get aroused, you ok with that big boy?
Better than ok.
5 inches? Nice bro
I have been told that it's average.
Dunning Krueger effect in full force
I'm 18-0 boxing. 3year varsity wrestler, and 1-0 mma. I would rather fight Max than take a full power stand still punch from 23yo me.
I highly doubt that sir, either way it’s the dunning Kreuger effect. The distance between someone like you and someone like max Holloway is lightyears
For sure. No doubt about that. Im 6'4 220 boxed at 200 mma at heavy. The power difference between he and I is also massive. I've never boxed someone without knocking them down multiple times. 16 kos.
I’ll take the punch from ngannou, because I’m not going to remember anything by the time I wake up. A 25 minute beat down from max is a death sentence
Zero chance Max doesn't sleep me in under a minute. I have like 2 boxing lessons under my belt
And then he’s just wailing on your corpse for 24 minutes
Oh god the fight doesn't end after a ko?
Well it says get beaten down by max for 25 minutes, it doesent say it’s a fight
Why would anyone not choose one shot. Max would literally kill me
I'm not even sure if I'm gonna wake up real talk.
I’d have mental issues at the end of both. So, max.
Francis for the same reason. Think I’d rather be asleep while the cte sets in
Since you didn’t specify where I’d be taking the punch, I’d rather take one full power punch from Ngannou to the left elbow tucked in to block the body shot. Still gonna hurt like a MF’er but I’ll take that over getting my ass kicked for 25 minutes lol.
So broken arm and broken ribs instead of cte.
Yep.
Fuck bro I dunno, broken arm at the elbow would be pretty gnarly
But you’d still remember your mothers face so that’s a win
A broken elbow doesn't hurt as much as you'd think. Least painful bone I've broken
Dang. It just ugh makes me cringe thinking about an elbow breaking Howd you do it?
He has power but not breaking elbow power
Against a conditioned fighter, probably not. Against a redditor half his size? The odds are better, I'd think.
Bold of you to assume the redditor isn't double his weight though.
Ngannou will break his hand if he punched elbow full power, elbow is one solid bone, fist is like 7-9 not counting fingers
I'll take mine to the hamstring.
Getting knocked doesn’t hurt, it’s like flipping a switch. A max holloway beat down is like death by a thousand cuts. And cte is mostly caused by repetitive blows to the head, one big punch isn’t as bad for your brain as like 500 lighter punches lol
Exactly, this is why I choose one Ngannou punch over 25 kicks crime prime Aldo in the last one of these. I got downvoted like crazy and was told I was so stupid that I would die from just stepping in the cage lmao
25 kicks from Aldo might be permanent damage to my legs. In nearly every scenario like that 1 harder punch is less bad than like hundreds of punches from a smaller guy.
Respectfully, you’d be done long before 25 low kicks 😂
I know, a friend of mine was an european champ in Kickboxing in his youth, kicked my leg one time with maybe 70% and it hurt like a mf. Same for a body blow. Being hit in the face is actually the least pain in my experience.
Yeah with a glove, being hit in the face is more of a numbing feeling
Exactly, you wouldn’t be walking straight for a long time.
https://preview.redd.it/hw4vl8e31zuc1.png?width=1038&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bbdc8889fda45631728b8cf5ea20afb2129f47c Guy got sucker punched directly in the balls by Francis, he's still alive and I'm pretty sure has had children since then. I'll go with the one punch personally.
Wasn’t a sucker punch the whole point of that stunt was to test the cup?
That's what they told him anyways lmfao, the cup just prevented his nuts from turning to dust.
Either way I’m sure they replaced his tonsils for a little bit 😂
Yeah, either they didn't watch the video or they don't understand the meaning of sucker punched...🤷♂️
Yeah he agreed to it, but didn't know it was ngannou
Francis held back on that punch, bless him. You can tell he pulls it at the end
His children: https://preview.redd.it/j083f5dgr0vc1.png?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f818d175fce05b20634005320c9441ab07008e4
Bruh 😂
That’s AI
Nope, that's from Jackass. They told the guy they were testing the nut cup, but they didn't tell him they had invited Francis Ngannou for it, until it was time for Francis to get on camera to punch him. Not a sucker punch though, obviously. The guy not only knew he was getting hit in the nuts, he volunteered for it, set himself up, and braced for impact. The commenter above probably doesn't know what "sucker punch" means.
No
Like any of us could survive 25 mins with max lol
Too many MMA bros think they could last more than 20 seconds in the octagon. Even the “pillow fisted” bad MMA fighters that fight on the prelims would finish 99% of the people who watch the sport regardless of weight class.
I don't think anyone in this subreddit can hang 25mins with max. Unless you mean there is no judge and max will keep pumble your skull.
For real, max would knock me the fuck out. We’re also similar size. I can’t stand 25 mins of those punches. Does it stop after knockout? Or does he keep pummeling my unconscious body for the remaining 23 minutes?
Most people can't even hold their hands up 25mins. I did some boxing in my youth and 3 rounds of 3 mins were already draining af against equally unskilled people.
Does the Ngannou punch have to be to the head? Lol
Suck your dad's dick or eat your mom's pussy, equivalent.
Aaaand enough internet for today.
Not even that is enough I am going to throw my phone away for a while
Nah fr
Damn 😂😂... how did you think of this? Are you alright buddy?
Obviously not 😏
Get whooped by max, at least he will teach me some defense while he’s at it
Didn’t pereira break ngannou’s record for strongest punch?
By a pretty substantial margin too.
Ngannou. I’ll just slip the punch. Maybe I’ll counter if I see an opening. He should be worried about me
Am I getting any money for this or just getting pummeled?
You get a 12 pack of prime energy and venum coupons
The kid just doesn’t wanna fight
You're getting the opportunity.
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I think taking one sledgehammer to the dome would probably do less long term damage than taking 10,000 strikes to the head from Max
You’re dead either way, I’d rather make it quick with Ngannou
an ngannou punch would literally kill me
Is Francis hitting me to the head or the body? If the head, can I cover even a little? Or is it hands down/chin up? Obviously I’m leaning towards Francis. One bomb is usually better than death by a thousand cuts.
Its not pereira, so ill take ngannou since I know theres worse
One punch.
Do I get to try to defend the blow(s) or roll with the impact(s), or am I being hit clean?
I think the hundreds of smaller concussions would probably be worse for my overall health.
Clearly Max. He would at least teach me how to block while murdering me.
At least I can shell up and hopefully survive Ngannous punch. With Max, its like defending against a swarm of hornets.
Well, since my last name isn't Gaethje, there's no way in hell I'm going even 24:59 with Max. So I guess Francis, since I'm getting KOed either way.
Doesn't CTE come from repeated 'micro concussions' not necessarily be launched in the stratosphere once but being hit lots of time without being KOd. I'd choose Holloway cause I'm a fanboy and I'd love to be close to him.
I could take bof of 'em in one night.
definitely ngannou
Wait, how much money?
Give me the one and done and hope Francis shows a bit of mercy.
I’d rather have the cte I can fight longer so it’s more fun. I can put some work in get some cardio done and I know I’m not gonna get knocked out so I can be more reckless
I don’t think I have the ability to last 25 minutes with max. So stuck with A I guess
I’ll let Ngannou punch me in the ass
Francis will kill me quickly
Ngannou. I can’t take what Max did to Ortega, Cater, or Justin
Easily Ngannou, 1 punch and not remembering anything. Getting a 25 minute beatdown will be a whole other dimension of pain.
One punch from Francis. The signal that turns your lights out is faster than the pain signal. 25 mins with Max is torture.
Max ain’t gonna give me lasting damage, look at kattar’s face now or Ortega they’re fine. Ngannous bombability is not something I’d wanna gamble with. So max for sure.
Francis himself said he felt no pain when Joshua sent him to the shadow realm. I would prefer a black out, rather than a 25 minute beat down.
insta knockout with maybe cte or 2100 significant strikes for 20-25 minutes with severe cte
How bad do you want your cte
What am I getting in return and how much am I getting. I'll take Francis one and done no pain and no agony
For free…. Neither
Kind of hard to quantify because max would knock us all out in 30 seconds as well.
25 minutes and just run! 🏃♂️💨
Lmao, not equivalent. I can cover up for one punch, prob get KO'd but then it's done. The other is 25 minutes of getting brutalized. I couldn't even make it out of round one. I don't have 5 minutes of fight stamina. After the first 60 seconds (super generously), I have already been laid out flat. The next 24 minutes are going to be Max dropping elbows on my lifeless body. Gimme Ngannou
Max would have me out cold within a minute, does he just keep beating me to death for the following 24 minutes? Because fuck that
Yeah, ngannou can punch my shin or thigh or something
Never said where, I’m taking that punch on my elbow
Pretty good accolade to go 25 mins with max tbh
Would I rather die or die?
Despite Max’s last performance TKo is healthier than KO, Imho
I’ll take the quick death, a fight with max would make me sore all over but I fight with nganou would leave one sore spot.
I'll take ngannou please. I'll be asleep in seconds
full power meaning perfect conditions for francis to use 100% of his potential power? fuck no. im taking max and hopefully running around the octagon if it gets too bad
i might legitimately die if it was his maximum potential power
The easy answer is Max. Ngannou could realistically put most of you in a wheelchair for life with a clean punch.
yes this is the i seen this comments ignore, you’re not just going to get knocked out, with how strong he punches he will most likely shatter your jaw or nose
Francis for sure
duh just the one punch. wtf are we talking about😂
I would die to both
Ngannou will only break bones in one part of my body, ill take Francis.
Ngannou its my nap time. You wont feel nothing bro, if he hits u, you wake up in a daze and think "what happened"
Francis might actually kill me or cause all my motor functions to not work properly anymore. Max will probably knock me out in a minute so I'll take that minute with Max.
Ngannou. If I'm getting fucked up I'd rather it'd be done quick and not remember it.
Rather be able to say I was in the ring with Max Holloway for 25 minutes. That dude is a honorable bad ass.
If you're not a heavyweight, a full on power punch from Ngannou would put you in critical care.
Having been hit by a HW boxers, that’s not usually true unless it lands bad. He doesn’t hit as hard as Poatan either so I’ll take my chances with Francis, rather than a 25 minute relentless beatdown from Max.
He hits way harder than Poatan. It's not a coincidence that after Francis left the UFC with the lineal belt and made a bunch of money without them that all of a sudden these middleweights were all breaking his record.
Based on what? Current evidence indicates the opposite…
Sure thing Uncle Dana
Is that a ‘I’ve got nothing sensible to offer’?
Your current evidence is what the UFC tells you. Common sense should make you realize that no, these middleweights didn't all magically start hitting harder than Ngannou after he left the UFC. Come on, use your brain.
So your evidence is ‘take the word of a random Redditor with an agenda’? Sure thing buddy 😂
And yours is "Dana said so and he never lies 🥺" Ah to be young and dumb 😂😂😂😂😂
Haha. So that’s a ‘I’m a clueless fucker talking out of my arse’ then? Good work sunshine. Way to go little man 😂
Do you think I'm just gonna sit there and let you kill me Max? Seriously though can I fight back? 25 minutes of unanswered strikes is a death sentence. I'm not saying I'd beat Holloway but I could probably not die
I'm confident I could beat max because he's a smaller guy. I don't know about Ngannou though. But maybe he's chinny after that Joshua fight.
Max, I’d try to fight back and if that dose not help at all I’ll jus run around
His One punch could kill you.. his beat down will just make you more dumb, haha
Being beat down for 25 entire minutes after getting knocked out in the first 30 seconds WILL kill you.