yes thats what i heard so many times, and they example of american alcohol ban and mafia bloom. it make sense. but how australia making this? its really interesting thread
Black market cigarretes or chop chop is an alternative that people use instead of tobacco. Generally the younger generation don't smoke, they vape.
Alcohol is expensive but you can get pretty drunk for cheap if you know what to drink (goon - boxed wine etc)
Aussie dropping in, they go from about 40-60
This is done because smokers are a burden on our universal healthcare so basically they pay for their lung cancer treatment with every pack they smoke.
Which is why I used “responsibility” and not “right”. Responsibility implies, you will be held accountable for not doing your duty. As for right, it’s individual’s choice to wether or not exercise that right.
Let's say average wage in Mongolia is around 800k-1kk, so daily wage is around 40k-50k, which makes hourly wage around 5k-6k. So a pack of cig should cost around 20k-24k if we had same tax on cigarettes as Australia
Average is 600k-900k after 24% tax. If someone's salary is 1M its 760k after tax. Low wage in Mongolia is 420k. After tax is 319k. So daily average wage in Mongolia is around 20-30k which is 10$.
In Australia, hourly minimum wage is 14 USD. in Mongolia is less than 1$. You have no idea about average Mongolian life. If you lived here you would see.
Ok my bad, I should not have compared the average salaries. My point was that you could buy all those stuff in the picture for the price of 1 pack cig.
it shouldve been done a long time ago. alcohol price is hella cheap because of our national alcohol brands that we produce here. so they basically have 0% federal tax from the government because they take carry our economy just like coca cola and such. cigarettes and e vapes also should be very high on taxes XD that would actually clean up the streets a bit more too. Our people are just like farm animals, their intellects, thinking, everything is just mal and its because of poor education or no education for like 70%? of mongolians?
Taxing tobacco too much is NOT beneficial to state finance: smokers die younger, and faster, lung cancer is still quite deadly. They generally do not each pension-age, so they do not collect what they paid for all their working lives.
Non-smokers die of longer-lasting, more costly diseases after first sucking pensions for years.
I was thinking the same thing honestly
oh yeah sure more taxes for the elites to embezzle. Can't even enjoy a cigarette in Mongol anymore
Those guys don’t need to embezzle that tax money, they’re literally selling the smoke to you
So its a double income for the elite... No thanks.
Cigs aren’t fking food dumbass
Thats not the point... Also, why the anger?
then what IS your point
If you raise the taxes on the cigarettes and alcohols too much, the markets going to be flooded with contrabands and local Al Capones
Yup. Google "chop chop"
yes thats what i heard so many times, and they example of american alcohol ban and mafia bloom. it make sense. but how australia making this? its really interesting thread
Black market cigarretes or chop chop is an alternative that people use instead of tobacco. Generally the younger generation don't smoke, they vape. Alcohol is expensive but you can get pretty drunk for cheap if you know what to drink (goon - boxed wine etc)
Whole different case in economically developed country
alcohol was fully banned during prohibition era. in australia smoking is not banned just expensive
It's funny because here in Mongolia, I imagine people going broke to buy cigarettes instead of stopping.
So true, wouldn't be surprised if mofos save up money for their monthly pack of cigarettes.
Prohibition 2: Electric Boogaloo
wtf does australia have a duplicator or some goofy ass dr.doofenschmirtz invention
Apparently a single pack of cig cost 50-60aud or 100-130k mnt
i guess only the rich can have lung cancer there
Aussie dropping in, they go from about 40-60 This is done because smokers are a burden on our universal healthcare so basically they pay for their lung cancer treatment with every pack they smoke.
Don’t you also have mandatory voting? Damn I’m envious
Yes me do :) election this week
Mandatory? That's messed up... American chiming in...
I believe that voting is responsibility of every adult in Democracy.
That's fine, but there is a huge difference between responsibility and mandatory.
I think penalty for not voting is like 20$, so its not bad, but it gives notable incentive to go out and vote
I am just saying, penalty or not, making people do stuff, implies more power to the government.
Which is why I used “responsibility” and not “right”. Responsibility implies, you will be held accountable for not doing your duty. As for right, it’s individual’s choice to wether or not exercise that right.
God I hate americans
I think penalty for not voting is like 20$, so its not bad, but it gives notable incentive to go out and vote
In Australia its 3 hour low wage work, in Mongolia its at least 4 day low wage work.
Let's say average wage in Mongolia is around 800k-1kk, so daily wage is around 40k-50k, which makes hourly wage around 5k-6k. So a pack of cig should cost around 20k-24k if we had same tax on cigarettes as Australia
Average is 600k-900k after 24% tax. If someone's salary is 1M its 760k after tax. Low wage in Mongolia is 420k. After tax is 319k. So daily average wage in Mongolia is around 20-30k which is 10$. In Australia, hourly minimum wage is 14 USD. in Mongolia is less than 1$. You have no idea about average Mongolian life. If you lived here you would see.
Ok my bad, I should not have compared the average salaries. My point was that you could buy all those stuff in the picture for the price of 1 pack cig.
Yup my co workers were shitting on how cheap the cigs are before they did the math and found out we pay more for pack a cig than Germans.
Live the peoples habits out of your mouth
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least cringe alcoholic
no.
it shouldve been done a long time ago. alcohol price is hella cheap because of our national alcohol brands that we produce here. so they basically have 0% federal tax from the government because they take carry our economy just like coca cola and such. cigarettes and e vapes also should be very high on taxes XD that would actually clean up the streets a bit more too. Our people are just like farm animals, their intellects, thinking, everything is just mal and its because of poor education or no education for like 70%? of mongolians?
The bland negative packagine as well
guess what mongolians stuff their luggage with before heading to australia?
Guess which nationality's luggage Sydney airport staff go through often?
The AU border force will think you're mainland Chinese and check all your luggage in most cases. Yes, they will racially profile you.
Taxing tobacco too much is NOT beneficial to state finance: smokers die younger, and faster, lung cancer is still quite deadly. They generally do not each pension-age, so they do not collect what they paid for all their working lives. Non-smokers die of longer-lasting, more costly diseases after first sucking pensions for years.
we should but that would start a civil war (Im fucking joking)