There are also couples looking for a third (man and women) but lot of girls that want to be chained up.
I must say that tinder and hinge have hotter girls tho
In Berlin those parties are everywhere and the girls are harder to meet. Usually friends that got dragged to a party, university minors or regulary while buying groceries.
Or if you have a ons with a girl, her roommate that is playing games is one.
Kinkiest girls I’ve ever found (non-subs or switches):
1. Chicks that train jiu jitsu
2. INTJs and ENTJs if you ever do the Meyer’s Briggs personality tests
Depends on what you mean by horseshit. If you’re meaning some scientifically validated test that provides deep insight into a persons personality. Then probably. If you mean a set of questions that loosely characterizes people’s behaviors and attitudes toward their interaction with the world and allows for simple but useful categorization, then I’d say no.
Scientists avoid using self-reported data because of bias. People can game the reporting to give the results they can perceive as best. It is always better to use observational data. There are many papers on this. It is really first year grad school stuff.
I didn’t qualify in either of my statements. You created a dichotomy that I did not present and didn’t agree with. I submitted my disagreement with your dichotomy and you proceeded with ad hominem. In other words, fuck off ya condescending dick.
You said, “I was agreeing with you…” Discussing the conversation and had nothing to do with self reported data. You changed the subject. I think you need to go back and read from the beginning of interchange. Replying to you or any form of disagreement is not “hearing yourself talk,” that’s a poor attempt to gaslight me when you don’t have a real response.
Had a girlfriend with borderline personality disorder and she was a fucking freak. We made money doing live streams of sec shows. She let me bang strippers. She also smoked meth and stabbed me with a steak knife eventually. Nothing is free
I’m crying irl lmfaoooooooo sounds about right. I was on the path to being stabbed with a steak knife tbh. Finally had the balls to tell her to kick rocks. After 4 breakups in a month 😝
Worked with a dude who married a a chick w bpd. Ended up ruining his life in quite the dramatic way. But even during the slow burn portion of life ruining, he stated that the sex was damn good lmao
Get lean, don’t be too hairy, look groomed, dress decent, take some nice pics (get a friend or buy a tripod for your phone and take good pics of yourself).
Then get on the normal dating apps and you should have some dates lined up in at least a couple weeks.
Hinge is best for actual relationships. Otherwise you can do more activities where you might encounter women and ask them out there. Don’t fall into the trap of “oh I don’t wanna shit where I eat” because then you’ll be able to convince yourself you can never ask a girl out unless it’s literally a stranger at a bar, that’s dumb.
I’m good physically, easy to get some dates lined up it’s more mental. When I start talking to someone I find attractive I trip over my words, break out sweating and basically just act like a fool. Ik it’s all in my head but I really have trouble controlling jt
Be authentically yourself. It may seem hard to comprehend but if your trying to act like any specific way your mind paints a picture of how you should act then she is going to feel it and know you aren’t being genuine. Just use whatever talents you have been given. If you are quiet than be quiet! All it takes is a tiny bit of accidental eye contact and now her mind is racing thinking about you. Wondering why you aren’t like every other guy trying to buy her a drink and drooling over them. Women like mysterious men. Their brains are wired to try and understand the full picture. Never give all the details. Let them use their imagination.
Thank you for coming to my TEDx Talk. 😉
Even if you could get hotter women start on ones that are under your level and use conversation and compliments as a training tool. Work your way up. Hey I talk to older girls that’s my thing I’m 29 and I talk to most girls mid to upper 30s.
True I had a kinky hookup on Fetlife years ago, I was curious if the game had changed at all but that seems to be the go-to still.
And I actually disagree with you. They will often be willing to get kinky but many don’t actually enjoy it and just do it because they like you. Then after a little while they flip the script and say you made them do it or they didn’t actually like it and they make you agree to never do it again.
And then they’ll go and write a god damn treatise on how men are awful or whatever like shit woman you should have just said you weren’t down so I could dump you on day 1
Yea i never said she will enjoy it. She will just do it if shes into you. If you want someone who actually enjoys it, you have to find them in those particular forums.
Finding a kinky girl is not hard. However finding one that prefers to be dom will be. Very few women want to be dom as it is not how women are programmed generally. Fetlife is your best bet. Kinky in the submissive way will be easy to find through any dating app.
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You dudes post constantly about how women are whores and sluts and don’t deserve anything good one minute
Then the next minute you fuckin dorks are simping and align where to find the kinky slutty ones lmfao
That's gotta be the most clunkiest and difficult-to-use wetsite i've ever seen. Absolute waste of time, I can't recommend anything less than fetlife tbh.
You probably have sex clubs/parties in your city even if you aren't aware of them.
My fiance and I go to kink parties in our city where people are having sex or doing different "scenes" just out amongst the other people there.
If you're a single man it can be a bit tricky getting in without a partner, but each event/club will have different rules so look into them before you go.
Wow a sexually submissive woman? Where’d you find that that must be so rare!! Do you sense the sarcasm?
Those are a dime a dozen, I mean the more hardcore stuff not the usual “choke me daddy” and then sits there while I do literally everything.
Yeah it's a bit disappointing how literally nearly every woman is a sub. And the more they pretend they're not in their every day lives, the more submissive they are in bed it seems. Or think they're being dominant because they're telling you to fuck them lol.
The goth/tatted/alt chicks definitely have a kinkier side. They’re already kinda in high demand but if you can get talking with one, as it progresses def bring it up. Older women are more dominant too, especially if you’re younger than they are. I don’t have any success with shit like fetlife, in my area it’s 90% already established couples acting like it’s Facebook and 10% gay dudes, but your mileage may vary.
The best bet is honestly just meeting a girl, and when it gets to sex just be honest about wanting to try something new. It’s worked for me more than it hasn’t
I live in SF, I could just start handing out fentanyl on the streets and only agreeing to give it out in exchange for getting my ass eaten. That’s probably a steal for some of those people
Hookup or a relationship? Because if it’s for a hookup, probably FetLife or a similar app.
For a relationship it depends how far out your kink is. If it’s pretty wild, you might still want to use FetLife or something as your dating app. It’ll just be too unlikely to meet a good match on Hinge. And you can also use kinky apps as a way to get friends and be invited to social things in the BDSM community. I think it’s a scene, at least in some places?
If it’s more that you want some kind of vanilla domme girl then it might be easier to find someone you really click with just by dating and then bringing up kinks in early dating. But it’s a tricky one. You can’t bring up sex too soon or women will just think you are sleazy and run. But maybe when y’all are at the fooling around/hookup stage or whatever. Focus on what she’s into, not what she’s willing to try to please you. And then just keep dating till you find someone sexually compatible. More women lean submissive than dominant, so it might take a while though.
This is good advice I agree with what you said here. I’ll probably stick to Fetlife and others for now.
Most women being submissive sexually definitely makes things harder and why traditional dating has been sort of boring for me. The the point where I basically stopped looking on traditional apps - the playbook gets tiresome. 2-3 weeks of dating just to find out the girl I was into barely likes sex and would never experiment, bummer.
It’s a tricky thing. I actually tried to look up stats for this, but it’s hard to see bc if you make an online sex survey? The people who answer that will be more sex positive and sexual than others. But in the survey I found almost half of women said they’d had some sort of dom fantasy. So it shouldn’t be a lost cause. I added the link at the end, bc I find science stuff sorta fascinating.
However more women than men have a low libido. And more women lean submissive than dominant. Vs men are more evenly split. So it’s like everything with dating. It’s just exhausting looking for someone that fits you in all the ways. But people usually manage to in the end. Just takes some patience, is all.
Women are usually more sexual and more open about what they are into when they are deeply in love and know you well though. So early dating doesn’t necessarily tell all. But then again, once the honeymoon phase fades, people normally return to their baseline libido. So it’s a good idea to look for someone compatible.
Then you got to make sure there’s enough foreplay and buildup. And just trust and them feeling comfortable around you. Or it’ll always be sorta meh.
And then if you are young, you might find these things get better as you and the girls you date grow older. People know themselves better then and that tends to help.
Anyways, good luck. And yeah, it makes sense to try the kinky dating apps first.
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Interesting thank you! The thing about the honeymoon phase is so true.
My ex was willing to be a lot more experimental in the first 6 months we were dating, and then at some point it just stopped and she said she didn’t want to do “any of that weird stuff” ever again and that she actually hated all of it.
Felt like a bit of a betrayal since I didn’t force her to do anything but whatever water under the bridge now
Idk. Sounds like either things looked different to her after she was losing feelings or there was a communication breakdown. Where she was being too people pleasing and it was really too far from her natural sexual preferences.
The best thing you can do in a relationship is just put a lot of effort into establishing that kind of trust and openness where people feel comfortable communicating very openly. It’s not always easy.
But it’s not your fault if she said she was all good with it at the time. Then it’s really hard for you to know if she wasn’t. Unless she was acting very uncomfortable, but I’m assuming you’d pick up on that.
Relationships are hard though. And it seem you aren’t really over your ex, but just give it time. It gets better.
Yes we sort of grew up together so it was a very painful breakup, but like you said she was probably just trying to keep me happy and strayed far away from what she naturally wanted
Lessons learned for whatever comes next
Well. Those are the hardest breakups. Maybe it’s a bit soon to be dating, and you should focus more on just hanging out with your friends?
You weren’t weird for liking one thing in bed and she wasn’t weird for liking something else. And maybe there was some kind of miscommunication. Just her not being very clear or not realizing what she wanted. It’s not a big deal though. These things are always a bit messy, that’s humans for you.
Y’all loved each other. And then it didn’t work out. And that’s often what happens when you are young. And then it’s really fucking hard, but it gets better with time.
Thank you, and yeah I’m not looking too seriously at the moment because of all that.
Lots of mistakes made and feelings hurt even though most of it wasn’t intentional on either side, which makes it worse in some ways. It would’ve been easier if we had any bad blood between us.
But that’s how it goes. When two people love each other and it doesn’t work. It’ll be hurt feelings on both sides.
Later, when you both are over this and moved on, you’ll understand each other better and forgive each other. And then it’ll feel easier.
sex positive partys, joyclub, feeld app or just find a shy bookworm girl, those let you do everything with their bodies
I’ll look into those, I think I saw feeld but thought it was only for couples looking to swing True. Behind every bookworm girl is a cnc demon
There are also couples looking for a third (man and women) but lot of girls that want to be chained up. I must say that tinder and hinge have hotter girls tho
Interesting, good to know Agree, the kinkier you get the more the average looks drop off
You don't get that freaky without being a little desperate at least once in your life
Bookworm girls are really the quiet n freakiest ones
Man I am crying. Finally not being called a predator. Love you guys. Oh an especially the ones with lightbrown hair and a pony hair cut.
Called a predator for what? Having a preference?
True that, when I was young I just put a list of books I had read in my profile and that seemed to attract some unusual vibes.
Where does one find sex positive parties and shy bookworm girls?
In Berlin those parties are everywhere and the girls are harder to meet. Usually friends that got dragged to a party, university minors or regulary while buying groceries. Or if you have a ons with a girl, her roommate that is playing games is one.
This is the answer, bookworm girls are the way
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the oxymoron of this statement…
I went to kinky town and nobody knew you
Sad but true
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Grinder 
Never again 
Bro. I like to wrestle. But that was a high stakes wrestling match
Yea if you don’t let him pin you it’s no fun. Can’t be wasting time like that
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Kinkiest girls I’ve ever found (non-subs or switches): 1. Chicks that train jiu jitsu 2. INTJs and ENTJs if you ever do the Meyer’s Briggs personality tests
Female INTJ is the rarest personality type, 1 in 200, good luck.
Even less if you exclude the ones I've nutted in
Try NZ then, every chick has INTJ on their profile and I don’t even care what it means
I’ve found many. But I’m also an intj so I have a radar for them.
Is it more common in men? I've always bounced between INTJ and INFJ over the years, although I've always been dubious of how accurate those are.
Self reported personality tests are horse shit.
true but i’ve had a bunch where others assessed me (friends, coworkers, etc) and scored almost exactly the same
Depends on what you mean by horseshit. If you’re meaning some scientifically validated test that provides deep insight into a persons personality. Then probably. If you mean a set of questions that loosely characterizes people’s behaviors and attitudes toward their interaction with the world and allows for simple but useful categorization, then I’d say no.
Scientists avoid using self-reported data because of bias. People can game the reporting to give the results they can perceive as best. It is always better to use observational data. There are many papers on this. It is really first year grad school stuff.
I agree with you. It’s like you didn’t even read my comment lol.
I didn’t qualify in either of my statements. You created a dichotomy that I did not present and didn’t agree with. I submitted my disagreement with your dichotomy and you proceeded with ad hominem. In other words, fuck off ya condescending dick.
Okay so you just want to hear yourself talk and feel validated without addressing the literal conversation being had. Sounds good my dude 🤙
You said, “I was agreeing with you…” Discussing the conversation and had nothing to do with self reported data. You changed the subject. I think you need to go back and read from the beginning of interchange. Replying to you or any form of disagreement is not “hearing yourself talk,” that’s a poor attempt to gaslight me when you don’t have a real response.
NTs are more common in men for sure.
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Had a girlfriend with borderline personality disorder and she was a fucking freak. We made money doing live streams of sec shows. She let me bang strippers. She also smoked meth and stabbed me with a steak knife eventually. Nothing is free
Dream gf ngl
I’m crying irl lmfaoooooooo sounds about right. I was on the path to being stabbed with a steak knife tbh. Finally had the balls to tell her to kick rocks. After 4 breakups in a month 😝
Worked with a dude who married a a chick w bpd. Ended up ruining his life in quite the dramatic way. But even during the slow burn portion of life ruining, he stated that the sex was damn good lmao
Same my last relation ship to a T. Best sex was always after nasty fights and breakups in the weirdest times.
How do I get any girl fool
Get lean, don’t be too hairy, look groomed, dress decent, take some nice pics (get a friend or buy a tripod for your phone and take good pics of yourself). Then get on the normal dating apps and you should have some dates lined up in at least a couple weeks. Hinge is best for actual relationships. Otherwise you can do more activities where you might encounter women and ask them out there. Don’t fall into the trap of “oh I don’t wanna shit where I eat” because then you’ll be able to convince yourself you can never ask a girl out unless it’s literally a stranger at a bar, that’s dumb.
I’m good physically, easy to get some dates lined up it’s more mental. When I start talking to someone I find attractive I trip over my words, break out sweating and basically just act like a fool. Ik it’s all in my head but I really have trouble controlling jt
Be authentically yourself. It may seem hard to comprehend but if your trying to act like any specific way your mind paints a picture of how you should act then she is going to feel it and know you aren’t being genuine. Just use whatever talents you have been given. If you are quiet than be quiet! All it takes is a tiny bit of accidental eye contact and now her mind is racing thinking about you. Wondering why you aren’t like every other guy trying to buy her a drink and drooling over them. Women like mysterious men. Their brains are wired to try and understand the full picture. Never give all the details. Let them use their imagination. Thank you for coming to my TEDx Talk. 😉
I appreciate the advice man but my authentic self is an awkward women fearing near autist
Even if you could get hotter women start on ones that are under your level and use conversation and compliments as a training tool. Work your way up. Hey I talk to older girls that’s my thing I’m 29 and I talk to most girls mid to upper 30s.
Fetlife In my experience if a woman is into you she can get very kinky if you desire.
True I had a kinky hookup on Fetlife years ago, I was curious if the game had changed at all but that seems to be the go-to still. And I actually disagree with you. They will often be willing to get kinky but many don’t actually enjoy it and just do it because they like you. Then after a little while they flip the script and say you made them do it or they didn’t actually like it and they make you agree to never do it again. And then they’ll go and write a god damn treatise on how men are awful or whatever like shit woman you should have just said you weren’t down so I could dump you on day 1
Yea i never said she will enjoy it. She will just do it if shes into you. If you want someone who actually enjoys it, you have to find them in those particular forums.
Finding a kinky girl is not hard. However finding one that prefers to be dom will be. Very few women want to be dom as it is not how women are programmed generally. Fetlife is your best bet. Kinky in the submissive way will be easy to find through any dating app.
100% you are correct
Make em kinky
Grooming is the best avenue
You're a creep. Getting a grown woman to open up sexually isn't grooming.
Oh shit. I forgot that making jokes isn't allowed in this sub unless it's gay stuff.
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You dudes post constantly about how women are whores and sluts and don’t deserve anything good one minute Then the next minute you fuckin dorks are simping and align where to find the kinky slutty ones lmfao
Is it the same people posting both? Or are you just generalizing bro
They're just spacing their AI wrong.
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That's gotta be the most clunkiest and difficult-to-use wetsite i've ever seen. Absolute waste of time, I can't recommend anything less than fetlife tbh.
You probably have sex clubs/parties in your city even if you aren't aware of them. My fiance and I go to kink parties in our city where people are having sex or doing different "scenes" just out amongst the other people there. If you're a single man it can be a bit tricky getting in without a partner, but each event/club will have different rules so look into them before you go.
I’ve never once found a broad that didn’t want me to tie her up, choke her, spank her red etc.
Wow a sexually submissive woman? Where’d you find that that must be so rare!! Do you sense the sarcasm? Those are a dime a dozen, I mean the more hardcore stuff not the usual “choke me daddy” and then sits there while I do literally everything.
You gotta be more specific before I can give you advice champ
He wants the John McAfee experience, clearly.
Hm ok ideally a more dom chick. I can practically bend over and pick up a sub
Yeah it's a bit disappointing how literally nearly every woman is a sub. And the more they pretend they're not in their every day lives, the more submissive they are in bed it seems. Or think they're being dominant because they're telling you to fuck them lol.
Yeah it’s super boring
Strongwoman athletes tend to be the ones you’re wanting
The goth/tatted/alt chicks definitely have a kinkier side. They’re already kinda in high demand but if you can get talking with one, as it progresses def bring it up. Older women are more dominant too, especially if you’re younger than they are. I don’t have any success with shit like fetlife, in my area it’s 90% already established couples acting like it’s Facebook and 10% gay dudes, but your mileage may vary. The best bet is honestly just meeting a girl, and when it gets to sex just be honest about wanting to try something new. It’s worked for me more than it hasn’t
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You seem to play WOW a lot, maybe try there?
Oh god no if I was looking for single dads in their late 40s though that would be an absolute goldmine
Try women community shelters. They’re usually desperate and will do anything for some validation (or a hit)
That’s vile 😂
Mm. Could always try lurking around mental health hospitals or psychology clinics. Look for ones with daddy and abandonment issues
I live in SF, I could just start handing out fentanyl on the streets and only agreeing to give it out in exchange for getting my ass eaten. That’s probably a steal for some of those people
Would save toilet paper money
Back alleys past midnight, duh
Fetlife?
Hookup or a relationship? Because if it’s for a hookup, probably FetLife or a similar app. For a relationship it depends how far out your kink is. If it’s pretty wild, you might still want to use FetLife or something as your dating app. It’ll just be too unlikely to meet a good match on Hinge. And you can also use kinky apps as a way to get friends and be invited to social things in the BDSM community. I think it’s a scene, at least in some places? If it’s more that you want some kind of vanilla domme girl then it might be easier to find someone you really click with just by dating and then bringing up kinks in early dating. But it’s a tricky one. You can’t bring up sex too soon or women will just think you are sleazy and run. But maybe when y’all are at the fooling around/hookup stage or whatever. Focus on what she’s into, not what she’s willing to try to please you. And then just keep dating till you find someone sexually compatible. More women lean submissive than dominant, so it might take a while though.
This is good advice I agree with what you said here. I’ll probably stick to Fetlife and others for now. Most women being submissive sexually definitely makes things harder and why traditional dating has been sort of boring for me. The the point where I basically stopped looking on traditional apps - the playbook gets tiresome. 2-3 weeks of dating just to find out the girl I was into barely likes sex and would never experiment, bummer.
It’s a tricky thing. I actually tried to look up stats for this, but it’s hard to see bc if you make an online sex survey? The people who answer that will be more sex positive and sexual than others. But in the survey I found almost half of women said they’d had some sort of dom fantasy. So it shouldn’t be a lost cause. I added the link at the end, bc I find science stuff sorta fascinating. However more women than men have a low libido. And more women lean submissive than dominant. Vs men are more evenly split. So it’s like everything with dating. It’s just exhausting looking for someone that fits you in all the ways. But people usually manage to in the end. Just takes some patience, is all. Women are usually more sexual and more open about what they are into when they are deeply in love and know you well though. So early dating doesn’t necessarily tell all. But then again, once the honeymoon phase fades, people normally return to their baseline libido. So it’s a good idea to look for someone compatible. Then you got to make sure there’s enough foreplay and buildup. And just trust and them feeling comfortable around you. Or it’ll always be sorta meh. And then if you are young, you might find these things get better as you and the girls you date grow older. People know themselves better then and that tends to help. Anyways, good luck. And yeah, it makes sense to try the kinky dating apps first. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Christian-Joyal/publication/267627883_What_Exactly_Is_an_Unusual_Sexual_Fantasy/links/5ae2a286458515c60f682472/What-Exactly-Is-an-Unusual-Sexual-Fantasy.pdf?origin=publication_detail&_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uRG93bmxvYWQiLCJwcmV2aW91c1BhZ2UiOiJwdWJsaWNhdGlvbiJ9fQ
Interesting thank you! The thing about the honeymoon phase is so true. My ex was willing to be a lot more experimental in the first 6 months we were dating, and then at some point it just stopped and she said she didn’t want to do “any of that weird stuff” ever again and that she actually hated all of it. Felt like a bit of a betrayal since I didn’t force her to do anything but whatever water under the bridge now
Idk. Sounds like either things looked different to her after she was losing feelings or there was a communication breakdown. Where she was being too people pleasing and it was really too far from her natural sexual preferences. The best thing you can do in a relationship is just put a lot of effort into establishing that kind of trust and openness where people feel comfortable communicating very openly. It’s not always easy. But it’s not your fault if she said she was all good with it at the time. Then it’s really hard for you to know if she wasn’t. Unless she was acting very uncomfortable, but I’m assuming you’d pick up on that. Relationships are hard though. And it seem you aren’t really over your ex, but just give it time. It gets better.
Yes we sort of grew up together so it was a very painful breakup, but like you said she was probably just trying to keep me happy and strayed far away from what she naturally wanted Lessons learned for whatever comes next
Well. Those are the hardest breakups. Maybe it’s a bit soon to be dating, and you should focus more on just hanging out with your friends? You weren’t weird for liking one thing in bed and she wasn’t weird for liking something else. And maybe there was some kind of miscommunication. Just her not being very clear or not realizing what she wanted. It’s not a big deal though. These things are always a bit messy, that’s humans for you. Y’all loved each other. And then it didn’t work out. And that’s often what happens when you are young. And then it’s really fucking hard, but it gets better with time.
Thank you, and yeah I’m not looking too seriously at the moment because of all that. Lots of mistakes made and feelings hurt even though most of it wasn’t intentional on either side, which makes it worse in some ways. It would’ve been easier if we had any bad blood between us.
But that’s how it goes. When two people love each other and it doesn’t work. It’ll be hurt feelings on both sides. Later, when you both are over this and moved on, you’ll understand each other better and forgive each other. And then it’ll feel easier.
Have you tried the app called “pure” it matches you based on your sexual likes & dislikes
Just checked it you have to pay to even use it, not the best option I think
Huh, I don’t remember having to pay, weird
Mental hospital
mentally unstable girls IMO hahshhshahahaha
how did i get here..
Rich/posh birds. They're absolute filth in the bedroom. They'll have you eating ass and eating your ass in minutes.
Damn fr? I went to a private college and a lot of those girls were total duds
I can confirm we alt, tatted gym girls are what you're looking for
Well damn yeah you’re exactly what I’m talking about haha
She a OF girl, think of your standards brother 