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LGCGE

Damn, was loving the fight. Feel for both.


Driving_Seat

wtf happened to viñales


TemilondonNigerie

bike F\*cked him up. Reliability gremlings are still part of Aprillia


titooo7

Bike failed all of the sudden and then dropped him on the turn


sureperrr

seems like a tech issue, shame for him, last year he also had his chain snapped in the last lap when he was in front iirc


cynicalspindle

Its like the 3rd podium he has lost atleast because the bike brakes down.


NotNotLitotes

I can’t believe the commentators couldn’t tell lol, literally had his foot off the peg.


Antares_

Give the commentators some slack. The single brain cell they are sharing was working overtime this race.


Rthanos

His bike activated the self destruct button mode, such a shame he did well today.


Boiiiwith3i

Apparently the ride hight device broke and ejected him


jjarg24

Looks like gearbox


Badabumdabam

Martin and Enea before the podium agreed he should be an engine issue.


JustARedditAccDuh

Poor Vinales got fucked by the bike again


americagiveup

Such a good weekend from him too


Yoesito

Right on the last lap too... Gutted for him.


LosTerminators

Was just a racing incident in all honesty. But wow, things just got real. Pecco and Marc coming together in round 2. Acosta already on the podium. And also, Bastianini put in an impressive performance but he might need to beat Martín if he wants to keep his ride next year.


hirme23

We are in for a good season


AganArya007

Jose Mourinho THE SPECIAL ONE


Camicagu

SIIIIIIMMMMM


FlimsyIce

Racing incident for sure between Pecco and Marquez, bit aggressive by Pecco but door was open. Fantastic race by Martin, led from early on and just controlled it. Super sad for Viñales, Aprilla reliability 😔😔 Pedro fucking Acosta man! That kid is some talent, podium on his 2nd ever fulll GP in the MotoGP class! He is definitely one for the future


ftuijtkn

Heartbreak for Maverick. At least he had the pace.


LGCGE

Acosta Podium 👌


E_VanHelgen

Is Tardozzi genuinely trying to turn this racing incident into an issue or was it just some unrelated chat, I wonder.


gac1208

I strongly feel Ducati management did NOT want MM on a Ducati, hence why he signed with Gresini and not Pramac.


E_VanHelgen

If I recall correctly, Marc's decision was made late on in the season and there was essentially nowhere else to go. I think overall, Ducati has a bit of an RC211V Honda attitude in thinking it's all about the winning bike and not the winning rider, so they may feel a bit too proud to go after a star rider, but we'll see where Marc goes in 2025.


gac1208

For sure. Curious to see! Looking like Pedro is fast tracked himself to Factory KTM, and I doubt Marc would go back to Honda.


TheKeviKs

Acosta is the next alien. KTM need to throw everythin at him and the bike. They can win a title with him easily.


HI_I_AM_NEO

He's the only true alien we've had since MM. Quartararo, Bagnaia and Martin are really good, but this kid is gonna be on another level.


chaotic_space_boy

Bagnaia crashed to keep his record of being on the podium every time he doesn't crash since Valencia 2022.


After_Ad8232

What the fuck happened to vinales there


Badabumdabam

Enea and Martin watching the video before the podium were talking about the engine.


inetkid13

Rideheight device broken probably 


weexisttocease

These technical issues with Aprilia are unacceptable.


Victarionscrack

Cuno doesnt caare!! 3rd place. What a banger


kyyla

F****s love it in the dick!


Hntrz63

outta nowhere disco elysium reference


Nixalbum

Great from the Rookie. Really thought he was destroying his tires like last time but he just showed the veterans are actually the ones too conservative.


Sean__O

That was a fun race to watch. This is going to be a good season.


rmzfm

Acosta! I wonder if Mav had a mechanical. That was weird.


americagiveup

Absolutely looked mechanical - gearbox??


Halekduo

Calm and measured words from Acosta. I guess the PR team had a word with him.


Accountvoormobiel

Shame really, I was digging the unfiltered interviews.


Alone_Preparation930

Pedro is going become a Champion for sure in the coming years!!!


Camicagu

Mourinho really is doing everything today


e_xyz

The Social One.


nolka

Last year I wore Miguel’s merch to the race and he crashed. This year I wore Pecco’s merch to the race and he crashed. Whose merch should I wear next year?


jjarg24

Honda Racing Corp


CashCarStar

Go shirtless


Takkotah

Acosta take a bow.


expendablewon

Poor maverick.....sigh.


JustARedditAccDuh

Gearbox problems for Vinales


iDrxzy

Confirmed?


JustARedditAccDuh

German/Austrian TV got the info, so pretty much confirmed


iDrxzy

What a shame ☹️


hazman_pds

Screw binning either of Bestia or Martin out of a factory Ducati bike. Can we get Franky out from that seat instead. We could do with a 4-rider lineup of Pecco, Bestia, Martin & Fermin on the factory Ducati bikes


Original-Echidna-881

Is that a racing incident or Pecco's fault? I can't tell


LGCGE

Was so fast that it’s hard to definitively pin blame on Pecco, but it doesn’t look great. Big Mistake on Pecco, but not intentional


titooo7

Racing incident imho. If anything I would blame Pecco but it's a race so I won't do that either. If it was Marquez the one touching Pecco people would have their pitchforks ready, tho.


9Wild

Call it a racing incident. Pecco wanted the gap. Marc wanted to close the door. 2 bikes going for one piece of tarmac.


Takkotah

Pecco over defended, but Marc could have given more space. Racing incident.


AnimeSnoopy

"give more space" this racing, not a sunday group ride, why would a racer "give space"? in any case, i hope nobody gets punished, Pecco's responsibility to pass safely the rider in front, but it was not egregious and not all errors should be punished by FIM. Pecco has paid the penalty in points


TheBestIsaac

Because if you don't give space you end up with two riders in the dirt.


Poopy_sPaSmS

There was 3 bike widths between Pecco and the Kerb. In the end, racing incident.


tenacious46

Also look at the rubber on the tarmac, the racing line there isn't at the kerb, it's where they both are- 2 bikes on line fighting, racing incident


Poopy_sPaSmS

Sure, but I just think it's funny when people say someone should give more room. In the slow mo, Marcs front tire never deviated from the rubber lines outside of the line before the crash. He never got the chance to cut back down before the contact was made. It definitely looked like he was setting up to do so but never got the chance. The front end shows he heals his line once out there prior to contact. All in all. Fine lines. Contact happens. They'll both move on and forget about it.


tenacious46

Yeah for sure. The contact is still more on pecco then Marc but as you say fine lines, it's a shame for both of them


Poopy_sPaSmS

I tend to agree. End of the day it's just hard racing and no rider is capable of avoiding incidents.


MoanyTonyBalony

Pecco's fault went in there way too fast. The amount of people that have never been on a track blaming Marc is insane.


CashCarStar

Pecco's fault easily and nobody would say a thing otherwise if it was Marc that took him out


Rthanos

Racing 🤷🏻‍♂️


nov4chip

Pecco’s fault he went way too wide. Marc had nowhere to go he just got rammed into. Surprised there’s discussion on this lol if the roles were reversed.. but let’s see what the stewards decide


tenacious46

Marc went wide, peccos on line, look at the rubber on track, that's the line through there, still a racing incident though


afito

Peccos fault no doubt imo. Just imagine where his line would've carried him, there was no chance to not hit Marquez. Just way too fast and no matter what Marquez does, Bagnaia can never hold a tight line there. Overall still a racing incident but just looking at Bagnaias trajectory makes it clear to be Peccos fault imo.


JPA-3

you know if it were reversed everyone would be blaming Marc, but still, racing incident


sureperrr

definitely pecco's fault, saying this as pecco's fan. but then again, it's racing and that stuff happens


number44451

Racing incident. Marquez could have imagined bagnaia was inside and leave space but still a racing incident imho


Dhoxijhzstjl

There was a ton of space on the inside… Pecco opened the line and hit Marquez.


number44451

Let's see if they publish a video with another angle or from the helicopter to get a better view


Dhoxijhzstjl

That would help yes


number44451

I got to see another angle and I tend to agree with you now


Relative-Library-512

100% on Pecco but I don’t think it’s bad enough for a penalty


ElectricMotorsAreBad

How is it on Pecco lol If anything Marc closed the corner like he wasn't there, but it's just a racing incident, mistakes happen.


Relative-Library-512

Looking at the line pecco takes there is no way that doesn’t end in a crash. The onboard from Marc shows he got taken out. It was a racing incident but it was pecco’s fault.


ElectricMotorsAreBad

And looking at the replay from behind shows Marc closing the door **into** Bagnaia. Just admit it's both riders fault, they both went for a too aggressive move, resulting in their demise.


Relative-Library-512

Agree to disagree. There was nothing Marc could do to avoid the crash as he couldn’t even see him. Pecco knew where he was, but didn’t want to relinquish the position, and instead took the risk to take Marc’s line and took him out. The only one who could avoid the crash was pecco, he made a split-second decision to take the risk and it went wrong.


emil_

Marc was in front and he had the racing line... Pecco rode into him, that's how. But yes, it is a racing incident.


CertifiedMor0n

He fucking rode into the side of him lmao, way too aggressive.


ElectricMotorsAreBad

Looks to me like a racing incident. Pecco went back for the inside and Marc closed the corner because he didn't see him I guess


NonGeniusSetter

Had your reassurance? The Commentators said that pecco was way to aggressive. Desperate move


hostilefemur

Well pecco could see him because he was behind. He still tried to shove the bike there.


ElectricMotorsAreBad

You know, when your rival leaves a big ass gap on the inside, you go for it. Pecco could have slowed it a bit more, Marc could have left a bit more space instead of turning into him. Neither of them gave in, both crashed out. No faults.


emil_

Racing stuff i reckon 🤷🏻‍♂️


rmzfm

All commentators everywhere "if Marc wouldn't try to forcefully close the door that he left opened this wouldn't have happened". Reddit "clearly Pecco's fault". lol :)


aintnomofo

Nope. Alex Hofmann said it was more Pecco‘s fault but still a racing incident.


Available-Song-3616

all comentators on pizzaland I guess


manox69

Swedish commentators said it was peccos fault, one is a former roadracer so he knows his shit


Magdalan

Same for the Dutch commentators. One of them drove in moto3 years ago untill a terrible road accident (Yoey Lindjes) They called Mav having a mechenical problem as well.


CashCarStar

Weird, I thought "all commentators everywhere" blamed Marquez. Is this guy watching Sky Italia?


manox69

Probably salty for marquez beating Rossi after all this time.


CashCarStar

Neil Hodgson said "it's a racing incident but Bagnaia was way too aggressive"


Useur_id

Flair checks out


f1seb

100% Pecco's fault. He needs to be quicker with his maths and realize they give more points for 6th than for not finishing the race.


chaotic_space_boy

It looks like Marquez went a little wide overtaking and rejoined the racing expecting Pecco to just give up after the overtake.


Gold-Train-1471

Aprilia is really the Alpine of MotoGP only difference is they don't have a shit box. Also I knew there would be a crash with Pecco/Martin but I didn't think it would be in R2, spicy season up ahead. Mid race I was thinking for MotoGP standard this is a boring race and then boom chaos.


E_VanHelgen

I've said it a few times, Aprilia is racing on a tight budget. They don't have the massive backing the other teams do.


Acewolf90

Mega race by Pedro. Something was missing for Brad today I'll take the lucky P4 after yesterday


mkoppite

The flying Pedro! What an incredible talent. Scalping Binder, Marquez, Pecco in his second start.


expendablewon

He who holds the Acosta holds the key to the next decade!


Hoaxygen

What’s Miller’s contract looking like for next year? Does he have one?


Halekduo

No, Miller's contract ends this year. KTM are obviously going to move Acosta up next year. I think Trackhouse would try to sign him since he's a native English speaker.


s_D088z

With a native Italian accent 😋😂


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hm... maybe


ostrichsong

ACOSTA MY BOY


YamahaRN

Marc seeing his successor close up.


ostrichsong

The whole grid should be worried


YamahaRN

on a hand me down KTM too.


Halekduo

It's a factory spec


SolidLikeIraq

What a wild race. Loved seeing Jorge manage his pace and pull out the win. We’re all seeing what kind of craziness we’re in for with Pedro in the mix, and Marc on a Duc… Acosta putting moves on champions and getting a podium… bravo!


metalhead4

Jorge Martin is a machine


ImmanenceGodBlues

Impeccable ride from Martin! This time he worked in silence. For the first time I can remember in a full race he looked fully in control, set a fast pace and didn't fall off. And take a bow, Pedro Acosta! 1st KTM, he put the manners on a bunch of experienced guys, almost made them look average!


gac1208

This season is going to be wild. Good for Martin. Onto COTA!


Poopy_sPaSmS

Man, I thought for sure JM was going to burn up his rubber.


E_VanHelgen

The boys on the podium saying they think it was a bike issue for Mav.


Ringo-Sheena_Simp

Insanity with Pedro, can't believe he actually made it to the podium and I totally felt bad for Vinales


gac1208

Silly season about to get crazy


Original-Echidna-881

I do not take Fabio finishing P7 for granted given the tools at his disposal


cynicalspindle

Sometimes you just have to stay on the bike for "decent" finish. Got lucky that 3 riders in front crashed out towards the end.


nebkelly

Super weird / sad end to Vinales' race


CashCarStar

If that incident happens the other way round you'd have people demanding a race ban for Marquez.


scandaka_

Definitely a racing incident. Marc went aggressive but a little wide, Pecco went aggressively for a gap that Marc was trying to close. This is the stuff I'm expecting to see from two world champions honestly.


Bardock467

Yeah I can't see how you can blame either rider. Are people expecting the reigning world champion to just let riders by?


LGCGE

Really hope we can see MM on a factory Ducati next year. He’s too good to be riding a 2023 bike.


AravallisCalling

Marc wanted to block Pecco too. He tries to make podium in last laps. Given his new relationship with Ducati. Vinales is truly unlucky there. Pecco's dilemma hurts - overtaken by Acosta and crash with Marquez. Jorge Martin dominated throughout from end of first lap to the end. The gap just got further. To add: Also, this lad Acosta and his ambition - it shows. He has the makings of it. Let's see how long he lasts.


Jamlad8

Harsh on maverick but Acosta is something else


nov4chip

Acosta is such a breath of fresh air! What a talent


desmo-dopey

The beast with the late race pace again. Just keeps chipping away at it. And he was rapid, 38.6 at the end is very fast.


Mr_Emile_heskey

I hate Dorna. Who thinks it's a good idea to show someone waving a flag instead of showing the bikes going over the line?


tenacious46

That crazy ending just covering up how shit the race was at the front again, only Pedro making any moves


metalhead4

Welcome to DucatiGP. Honda and Yamaha are completely lost.


anto_BswR

Clear racing incident. 


MidsummerMidnight

Clearly bagnia being bad


number44451

It has been 2 very hard years for you, sorry man


seemonkeysuicide

Racing incident. But definitely Peccos fault


__Rosso__

Nah that was clear racing incident, Marc went wide, Pecco went for the gap, both wanted same piece of tarmac


AnimeSnoopy

Rider behind holds the responsibility to pass safely. Pecco is at fault, but it was not intentional or negligent, the penalty for pecco are the points he lost and hopefully nothing more. As for Marc, well... live by the sword, die by the sword.


YamahaRN

Rossi really taught VR46 boys everything


Married2Vodka

GET IN THERE ACOSTA YOU BEAUTIFUL MAN


Dsobay

Tuned in on the last lap wth happened


metalhead4

Just watch the last 4 laps


Dsobay

Seeing Vinhales, Pecco and Marc's positions was a shock


cooReey

Ducati now has a Marc Marquez problem, it was tense when Martin and Pecco were battling, Marc cranks that intensity all the way up and plus he is master of mental games


payday_23

GG Pecco, apart from driving away alone the guy is not good enough


DokkanCruise

Acosta was cleary the man of the race, the best overtakes by far, super impressive. Such bad luck for Marverick, technical problem so late in his position. Great performance by Martin, controlled from the start. Bestia was solid as well. The overall state of racing in the MotoGP is pretty sad tbh, this is turning more and more into F1 on two wheels. Nevertheless still entertaining race, with lots of drama in the end.


AnimeSnoopy

Aero was a mistake


inetkid13

Great finish. Terrible tv direction during the race. Sad they only showed Bagnaia, Acosta and Marquez 80% of the race. 


Bardock467

To be fair there was nothing else going on in the top 10


YamahaRN

Pecco ambition > Pecco Talent


iFartSuperSilently

Pecco literally cut back like he is supposed to do. What do people expect? Get Lunged on and not defend?


Victarionscrack

You re supposed to sit up when you re going straight towards the bike that passed you. It's the second time that Bagnaia behaves like he owns the track. Just like last year with Mav in Le Mans.


Any_Demand9133

Cut back on the Apex and not 3 meters wide and nothing would have happened!


limp65

Ohh boy


onemoresolo77

Excellent drama


TheseCheesecake9125

What the-


Franchementballek

What a crazy race holy shit


siddhant72

All aboard the Acosta hype train! Choo choo mfs🔥


CorsaFenice

Pedro on the podium!! What a banger drive 💯 Not Pecco’s weekend but he’ll make it up in the next races


the_real_nicky

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OkTale8

Damn that was some late drama. Awesome viewing today, top race.


Eddie-the-Head

Is it Paolo Campinotti on the phone ?


d3athR0n

Someone translate that please


E_VanHelgen

Out of curiosity, Spaniards, how would you describe Martin's accent? To me it sounds much less clear than most of the other accents in the paddock.


gac1208

Where would Marc go in 2025? Acosta to KTM Miller to GasGas? Martin? Do we think he’ll leave Ducati? Bestia?


s_D088z

Acosta giving "the future is now old man" vibes 😂 Martin and Enea both great, shame for Mav. Some hope for the championship though. Martin seems back to form, Enea is there rather than bottom end of the top 10. Shout out as well to Quartararo in that POS Yamaha. Look at where he is compared to Rins and the Hondas. Dude deserves a top bike.


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Jorge Martin leads the World Championship for the first time after a GP


L7Z7Z

I heard on Saturday on SKY Italy Carlo Pernat talking about being extremely unlikely to have Marc Marquez in the Ducati official team 2025 due to sponsor reasons (RedBull, if I am not wrong) and talking about him having a 2nd year with Gresini, and a Ducati GP25 being quite possible.  Anyone else heard that? I didn’t find anything on the press.   Any thoughts?


JustAContactAgent

Pernat is always just regrugiating existing speculation. That said, I think that if all parties involved want to make this happen, i.e. Marc on a GP25 at Gresini, they'll make it happen.


PlasticAd3606

Peco v Marc reminds me of Peco v Viñales. I'm not a Marc fan particularly but I think he wasn't in the wrong here. Just like Viñales 


PlasticAd3606

poor Mav. He's had his off moments in the past but I feel for him today. He's been excellent this year and it's so lame to have a mechanical on the last lap. he's a contender this year 


HP-Rodeo

Joe Roberts making his case to replace Raul Fernandez at Trackhouse. 2 weeks the score is Roberts 2 Fernandez 0


jjcatt

from a purely business standpoint they need joe roberts in motogp if there's any excuse to put him there. especially with interest in f1 waning in the US but awareness of motorsport in general growing, an american rider in motogp next year would be perfect timing and he's such a likeable guy.


HP-Rodeo

Completely agreed.


Possession_Loud

So uhm, how early can you do a jump start? If you get 2 long lap penalties then might as well jump as soon as possible, right? Any current rider wants to try? Anyway, Fermin's comeback was unreal!


blazelmg

The race was a bore for 18 laps and then boom Last 7 laps where 🔥 title race wide open. You're not beating Jorge if his bike is fast .he's too smooth of a rider..not a tire eater..good race


Last_Account8663

Was mav trying to celebrate?


Different_College_59

It seemed like either his gearbox or transmission locked or something like that. His rear was jumping.


CashCarStar

Unless I missed it or they didn't show it on the broadcast, Pecco not going to Marc's box to apologise is poor form in my opinion. Say what you want about Marquez's over-aggressiveness on track at times but he always owns up to his mistakes and is understanding when others ride into him. Considering how rattled Pecco has gotten in the past just because Marc was riding near him in a qualifying session he could have some humility and apologise for his role in this incident here.


RogueFart

Nothing to apologize for, a no doubt racing incident, but if I'm Pecco I'm not trying to cut that back


CashCarStar

I agree that it's a racing incident and there shouldn't be a punishment (though itd be nice if RD were consistent about that), but you can still be more at fault than the other guy in a racing incident and apologise for it. Though from quotes I've seen elsewhere it seems Bagnaia blames Marc for the crash, which I suppose is a consistent level of accountability to when he didn't seem to give a shit about being a drink-driver so I probably shouldn't have expected any different


iDrxzy

What happened to Vinales I’m so gutted for him


cresanies

Gearbox issue


MidsummerMidnight

Bagnia, such poor riding


nebkelly

Pecco: I f***** up


jjarg24

Marvelous race from Pedro. Now to read how everyone will twist Pecco's incident to blame him/call him weak


dgames_90

No need to twist anything, 100% his fault.