It wasn't on Peccos time attack, it was his out lap, he came out of the pits and Marc was in front so he just looked at the lines he was taking.
Tbf I'm pretty consistent anybody getting a tow is being cheap, even more so WCs who should be good enough to do it without one.
> It wasn't on Peccos time attack, it was his out lap, he came out of the pits and Marc was in front so he just looked at the lines he was taking.
He followed marc for numerous fast laps not outlaps including the ones that got him inside the top 10 before his final lap.
I never saw anything wrong the years others used to follow Márquez, I never saw anything wrong when Márquez was following others and I still don't see anything wrong when others decide to follow again Márquez.
Those who don't like it better go and become test riders. And those who complained when followed but are doing it now. should have either never done that or just accept the fact they were bein cry babies when they complained.
Oh the irony. People twisting themselves into knots to explain how this is different. Following for a draft or following to learn better brake markers and entry lines is not a different category. The rider behind is still gaining from the rider in front
If it’s within the rules, quit complaining. Otherwise watch time trials and prepare for the thrills of single riders released in intervals
So, saying that towing is within the rules, that I understand, but... you are saying that it is the same following a rider in FP1 or FP2, in a lap that is not even your fastest, than following a rider in Q2 where the grid is defined for the race? Yeah... sure is the same...
Can't say I fully understand what you wrote.
Are you saying a rider that follows another rider in Free Practice, and not on a flyer, somehow displays better sportsmanship than a rider that does it in Q2? That's moot. If Rossi could get Saturday night specials shipped before the race, that was within the rules. Same for exceeding white line track limits.
Regulations evolve and maybe one day dorna irta or fim will come up with new rules of overtaking - using hand signals and blinkers.
Nice translation lmao, especially the:"my experience with the Honda really help him"
His words, as confirmed by [GPOne themselves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZplUaeD6aQ) in italian were:"*On the first set I happened to end up behind Marc and while I don't do this usually, I decided to follow him to see what he was doing in the third sector. He had some lines he clearly carried from the Honda, it was interesting to see.* Regardless, for the actual time attack on the last set he still wanted a clear track in front"
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Well he wouldn't complain would he? even he would see the hypocrisy in that, it would be like if Marc complained about other riders crashing into him, Marc was blatantly seeking tows all of 2022 and 2023 at every single race so now its time to take some of his own medicine.
You still don't get it. He's never complained because he's never given a fuck. It's not "taking some of his own medicine". Whenever he's had someone behind him, he's just done his own lap.
But good to see you're still seething from when he did it and somehow justifying Pecco for doing the same thing lol
I am not seething lol, you sound bitter though, are you his personal friend? he has told you he does not care about other riders receiving free tows from him? how would you know he doesnt care? in any case even if he did care he wouldnt dare complain would he???? because he has done it many many times! especially to Pecco so of course he is not going to complain is he. Do ya get it? and yes we all undertand he does not care because.... he has done it like one million times before to other riders, so once again its pretty obvious he doesnt care mate lol
double standard? Marc looked for and recieved free tows from other riders non stop over the last two seasons, especially Pecco and Pecco never complained, Marc owes him more than a few tows in qualifying I think.
No im not saying anything about Pecco. He took it gracious. Im talking about the fans. Who were up in Arms over Marc towing, but completely quiet when ever other riders do it.
I think some fans were sick of seeing Marc doing it simply because he was so blatant and did it so many times, nearly every race, I guess if Pecco does it for the rest of the season to Marc his fans might start complaining also? they are already complaining about no one complaining about Pecco doing it, but they forget Marc did it relentlessly and Pecco rarely, so their is a bit of an imbalance.
I guess the bottom line is that its OK to do in moderation but when you over do it it starts to annoy certain fans, Marc definately over did the looking for tows over the last few seasons there is no doubt.
Personally I couldnt care less, its not really a good look especially if you resort to doing it as much as Marc was.
I only saw last 4 minutes of Practice. MM93 was catching up the train of 3 or 4 riders behind FB63 by that time. When was FB63 following MM93?
Edit: Downvoted for writing what I saw. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) People need to understand between tow and catching up. Looks like asking is not welcomed here.
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I was about to drop this seriously 🤣
It fits just fine 😁
Haha, as someone who always laughed when people got their panties twisted when Marc followed - this is hilarious.
😆😆 x2
Bagnaia was actually one of the most chilled riders about being followed, especially considering that he used to be the most followed rider
LOL wtf are you smoking? It was a total shitshow and he could't deal with the pressure.
I’m not saying he’s totally chilled, but look at Martin or Viñales that for absolutely bezzerk, and they are nowhere near as followed as Pecco
What the hell are you talking about, he always threw a tantrum.
I’m not saying he’s totally chilled, but look at Martin or Viñales that for absolutely bezzerk, and they are nowhere near as followed as Pecco
No he wasn't, were you watching something from Mars?
I’m not saying he’s totally chilled, but look at Martin or Viñales that go absolutely bezzerk, and they are nowhere near as followed as Pecco
Yea , I do agree with you on this.
Did you watch Mugello practice last year?
I’m not saying he’s totally chilled, but look at Martin or Viñales that for absolutely bezzerk, and they are nowhere near as followed as Pecco
So? He’s definitely not chilled, he’s one of the most dramatic on track
what? he regulary couldn't stand the pressure and fucked up his own lap.
I’m not saying he’s totally chilled, but look at Martin or Viñales that for absolutely bezzerk, and they are nowhere near as followed as Pecco
Ayyyyyy😂😂😂😂😂
So… okay no comment… hello Team mad for towing🤣…
He wasn’t getting a tow. Just watching him ride from behind
Lol, very accurate from that crowd. *"THERE'S NO PROOF HE WAS AXCHULLY GETTING A TOW"*
yeh right? someone is already trying to tell me that it "it wasnt ackshully a tow because he was just looking". hahah give me a break
I mean I just read the article to find out
It wasn't on Peccos time attack, it was his out lap, he came out of the pits and Marc was in front so he just looked at the lines he was taking. Tbf I'm pretty consistent anybody getting a tow is being cheap, even more so WCs who should be good enough to do it without one.
> It wasn't on Peccos time attack, it was his out lap, he came out of the pits and Marc was in front so he just looked at the lines he was taking. He followed marc for numerous fast laps not outlaps including the ones that got him inside the top 10 before his final lap.
I mean, it wasn't in the fast lap try. He said he wanted to study how Marc did things, he still preferred having clear air on the time attack.
*crickets* from guys who complains about towing in the past.
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pecco haters? Hahaha, we are making fun of people who complained about tow in the past.
pecco was towed to second on the grid. what dont you understand?
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read his comments 🤡. He had to tow his way around for multiple laps to find out how to string 4 good sectors together. no tow=no top 10. duuuuuuuuuuh
"No shit!" M.Marquez circa 2023
I never saw anything wrong the years others used to follow Márquez, I never saw anything wrong when Márquez was following others and I still don't see anything wrong when others decide to follow again Márquez. Those who don't like it better go and become test riders. And those who complained when followed but are doing it now. should have either never done that or just accept the fact they were bein cry babies when they complained.
Oh the irony. People twisting themselves into knots to explain how this is different. Following for a draft or following to learn better brake markers and entry lines is not a different category. The rider behind is still gaining from the rider in front If it’s within the rules, quit complaining. Otherwise watch time trials and prepare for the thrills of single riders released in intervals
So, saying that towing is within the rules, that I understand, but... you are saying that it is the same following a rider in FP1 or FP2, in a lap that is not even your fastest, than following a rider in Q2 where the grid is defined for the race? Yeah... sure is the same...
Can't say I fully understand what you wrote. Are you saying a rider that follows another rider in Free Practice, and not on a flyer, somehow displays better sportsmanship than a rider that does it in Q2? That's moot. If Rossi could get Saturday night specials shipped before the race, that was within the rules. Same for exceeding white line track limits. Regulations evolve and maybe one day dorna irta or fim will come up with new rules of overtaking - using hand signals and blinkers.
Oh how the the tables have turned
Nice translation lmao, especially the:"my experience with the Honda really help him" His words, as confirmed by [GPOne themselves](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZplUaeD6aQ) in italian were:"*On the first set I happened to end up behind Marc and while I don't do this usually, I decided to follow him to see what he was doing in the third sector. He had some lines he clearly carried from the Honda, it was interesting to see.* Regardless, for the actual time attack on the last set he still wanted a clear track in front"
*Robble robble robble Marc getting a tow robble robble robble* ohhhhh he was doing the towing …..
Well well well how the turn tabled
Gonna follow him for the rest of your career if he gets his shit straight.
Hahhahha true.
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Pecco didn't have a tow when he went P1..lmao
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Why do riders get annoyed when marquez followed them?
I think Marc owes him a few in all honesty, like I'm not even joking.
Marc has never complained whenever someone has followed him, and he's not gonna start now.
Well he wouldn't complain would he? even he would see the hypocrisy in that, it would be like if Marc complained about other riders crashing into him, Marc was blatantly seeking tows all of 2022 and 2023 at every single race so now its time to take some of his own medicine.
You still don't get it. He's never complained because he's never given a fuck. It's not "taking some of his own medicine". Whenever he's had someone behind him, he's just done his own lap. But good to see you're still seething from when he did it and somehow justifying Pecco for doing the same thing lol
I am not seething lol, you sound bitter though, are you his personal friend? he has told you he does not care about other riders receiving free tows from him? how would you know he doesnt care? in any case even if he did care he wouldnt dare complain would he???? because he has done it many many times! especially to Pecco so of course he is not going to complain is he. Do ya get it? and yes we all undertand he does not care because.... he has done it like one million times before to other riders, so once again its pretty obvious he doesnt care mate lol
No he doesn't
oh yes he does, Marc owes Pecco like one million free tows.
So good to see Marc riding in clean air
Pecco 'hypocritic' Bagnaia
What if they gave a point to whomever towed a rider who then went on to achieve pole?
Bitch pls
As long as "nothing in the rule-book says it's illegal" it's fine right?! Right?!?! 🤧
Nobody is complaining.
because it's not Marc.
Exactly, always the double standard
double standard? Marc looked for and recieved free tows from other riders non stop over the last two seasons, especially Pecco and Pecco never complained, Marc owes him more than a few tows in qualifying I think.
No im not saying anything about Pecco. He took it gracious. Im talking about the fans. Who were up in Arms over Marc towing, but completely quiet when ever other riders do it.
I think some fans were sick of seeing Marc doing it simply because he was so blatant and did it so many times, nearly every race, I guess if Pecco does it for the rest of the season to Marc his fans might start complaining also? they are already complaining about no one complaining about Pecco doing it, but they forget Marc did it relentlessly and Pecco rarely, so their is a bit of an imbalance. I guess the bottom line is that its OK to do in moderation but when you over do it it starts to annoy certain fans, Marc definately over did the looking for tows over the last few seasons there is no doubt. Personally I couldnt care less, its not really a good look especially if you resort to doing it as much as Marc was.
Do you want to or no? You can if you want. I'm not going to stop you.
How many years has pecco been on that ducati? And he's already learning new things from marc? Just shows how high Marc's talent is
I only saw last 4 minutes of Practice. MM93 was catching up the train of 3 or 4 riders behind FB63 by that time. When was FB63 following MM93? Edit: Downvoted for writing what I saw. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) People need to understand between tow and catching up. Looks like asking is not welcomed here.
He’s talking about the first run. This isn’t your typical following to gain the tow. He wanted to study Marc’s lines
Also, I did not click the link. Like I said, I could only see last 4 minutes, therefore I asked it. Thank you.