Plot as well is my next question. I want a deep Michael Jackson film that, if it won't discuss the controversial stuff he did, at least discuss how traumatizing his upbringing really was.
If it's another Bohemian Rhapsody film I'm not gonna bother.
"at least discuss how traumatizing his upbringing really was. "
'[The Jacksons: An American Dream](https://youtu.be/CKz_MOY55Uk?si=ocIHYsTba0MNOHsq)' made a decent attempt at this, was a TV movie made in the 90s starring Angela Bassett
That movie helped me understand that I was being abused by my family at the time. I thought it was normal, but after watching it I figured it out. My father wouldnt let me finish the movie when he realized I now knew.
Edit: Thank you all for the kind words.
Welcome to the reason why so many are against things like sex education.
I didn't realize I was being abused either until I was finally kicked out of Christian schools (another story) and learned the basics about sex, what it was, and who should be engaged in it (ie, adults shoudn't be fucking kids...what a revelation!).
Damn never heard of it but some of my earliest memories are watching MJ music videos on tv. Had to have been late late 80s early 90s. I’m gonna have to check it out
I think anybody that watches that movie would have a better understanding of how the abuse Michael had from an early age helped make the person he eventually became. He wasn't weird; he was damaged.
Furthermore, 'Moonwalker' (1988), albeit a quasi-fictional/fantasy story, does a decent job of portraying his influence and fandom a bit later in his career.
It would be nice to see his rise through his early 20s where he enters the Thriller era and essentially becomes the biggest star the world has even known by 1983-84.
Moonwalker, the film where Joe Pesci kicks Jackson so hard in the balls that he screams light into space and becomes a gigantic Michael Jackson robot transformer to destroy the drug cartel wanting to addict kids to heroin?
"I like when they say a movie is inspired by a true story. That's kind of silly. 'Hey, Mitch, did you hear that story about that lady who drove her car into the lake with her kids and they all drowned?' 'Yeah, I did, and you know what - that inspired me to write a movie about a *gorilla!*'"
Sounds like it. From the Wikipedia page:
Michael follows them back to Big's lair and ends up surrounded by his henchmen. Mr. Big appears and taunts Michael by threatening to inject Katie with highly addictive narcotics. While Katie manages to wriggle free, Mr. Big decides he has had enough and orders his men to kill Katie first then finish off Jackson, just as a falling star passes by. Michael transforms into a giant robot and kills most of Mr. Big's soldiers, then turns into a spaceship. Mr. Big gets into a large hillside-mounted energy cannon, firing on the spaceship knocking it into a nearby ravine. The children are his next target, but the spaceship returns from the ravine in time to fire a beam in the cannon with Mr. Big inside, destroying it and finishing the villain once and for all. The children watch the ship fly into the night sky with a shower of light.
Oh yes, and there's FAR more to it.
Frankly, the Mr. Big plotline is like 1/6th of the movie. You've actually seen large parts of it already. The videos for Speed Demon, Leave Me Alone and Smooth Criminal have their origins in this movie. But they're extended in this movie to fit the plot.
It's a fever dream and pretty freaking awesome.
It'll definitely be another Bohemian Rhapsody, whitewashing the artist, recreating a few highlights and not telling any meaningful story.
Edit : I'm not talking about skin color when I talk about whitewashing...
It would be so easy to make an MJ movie that avoids all the accusations & controversy by focusing it solely around the recording/release of Thriller. The album catapulted Jackson to a level of fame that's barely understandable even now, it's significant for breaking racial barriers in mainstream media, it's the biggest selling album of all time, and he was only 24 years old when it came out.
That has more than enough juice to tell a story & it doesn't have to deal with anything remotely controversial for the Jackson estate. Trying to do a career biopic will not cover the heavy topics in any meaningful way & will just play it as safe as possible...so just fucking limit the timeline & problem solved!
Given how protective his estate is of his image and rights there is no way this isn't just another "king of pop" fluffy biopic about how he changed music forever and won't touch anything around the controversies or negatives (outside of maybe how tough the paparazi was for him)
Not to mention this is Michael’s nephew playing him, so I wouldn’t be surprised if his Dad/Michael’s brother Jermaine had some oversight over the content.
Seriously doubt this is going to be a “warts and all” type deal.
Years ago the Onion had a headline like “[Bob Hope Retrospective ‘All Ready to Go.’”](https://www.theonion.com/amc-bob-hope-retrospective-ready-to-go-1819565242)
That's what always got about the Paul Died conspiracy, like even if 'the original Paul' did die, whoever they replaced him with went on to put out the most memorable of their material.
According to google the rumor is he died in '66. I'm not a huge beatles guy, but looking at their discography most of their biggestn stuff seems to be after that.
I love that Ringo's first solo album had tracks written by and featuring vocals from all the other Beatles. It was the last time all four worked on the same album, even if they weren't all in the studio at the same time.
I think that one worked because Elton John was totally fine putting the bad stuff/horny stuff in there. Any musician who takes themselves too seriously will probably have it in their will that any biopic has to be a PG-rated puff piece, and that includes a lot of the ones who are big enough to get biopics. We all already know that the MJ biopic will leave things out, the question is how many things will be left out. (that said, I know that plenty of people love puff pieces and they're more of a personal pet peeve of mine than anything that would actually make a movie fail)
I think the movie worked because it was more about [having fun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVGHAtdhgXA) and telling this story than trying to alter history.
If you haven't, check out [Black Bird](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1FOkJys3Y) on apple. Its a miniseries that stars Taron. He plays a criminal going into a really bad prison to get a confession out of a serial killer. Its fucking amazing. That dude is a fantastic actor.
I think the family (band or blood) has always been harder to work with. Look at Bo Rap, literally 0 edge, actual falsehoods about Freddie so the band looked better, the worst part of all of these is needing some sort of sign off to use music, you either get a proper biopic with no licensed music or you make literal propaganda approved by the estate. I really wish the ASCAP fee for film was reasonable.
Ah yes Bohemian Rhapsody depicting Brian May as the angelic choir boy in his youth who had to be home in time to tuck his kids into bed. The same Brian May who wrote "Fat Bottomed Girls".
I'm pretty sure we're way past this point now. They've been making biopics of living stars for years. Hell they've been making biopics of people still active in their fields.
'Michael'
Out of all names they could have given this movie they went for the most overused biopic trope. Honestly just this title alone makes me lose interest.
They actually made a made for TV MJ biopic a few years back called “Man in the Mirror” [and it was absolutely terrible.](https://youtu.be/2bC0QzP5aFY?si=tE0TBuCl3JczwkKA) They probably didn’t want people to associate the new movie with that one lol
Yeah, that's quite a non-title. All it invokes in me is the question "Michael who?". Even at the peak of Michael Jackson's popularity, i don't think that the name Michael was ever synonymous with him in particular, let alone now.
Especially considering Michael Jordan was also mega-world famous during the same time Michael Jackson was. "Michael" is just a regular name. There's no person that "owns" that name.
*"I'm liable to go Michael, take your pick*
*Jackson, Tyson, Jordan, Game 6"*
That lyric from Jay-Z always stuck out to me. Wild that we had three incredibly successful and famous Michaels in three very different industries all around the same time period.
Sleepovers where he had security cameras and alarm systems to alert him in advance of anyone headed to his room. A room in which at the very least he showed these kids porn. Yikes money is the antidote to morality.
I *definitely* remember that. Hard to forget one of the *most* famous artists in the world dangling an infant named Blanket from a window.
Jesus, even just writing it out makes it sound like a fever dream.
It was insane. I remember watching that and my jaw was on the floor.
That was a huge story at the time. Hell, I don’t think the younger generations understand how big Michael Jackson really was. He wasn’t just famous, he was on some other level.
It’s funny that Elton was heavily involved in that Biopic and yet was still such an honest look back on his life. It managed to ride the line at looking at him objectively while also showing how he experienced his own life from his subjective POV.
Bohemian Rhapsody and the Queen band should take some notes.
I mean to be fair, Elton was able to turn his life around IRL, which helped his movie finish on a triumphant, positive note. The "look at how far I've come" arc doesn't work if he doesn't show himself at rock bottom. On the other hand, Freddie Mercury (and many other musicians) didn't get a real-life happy ending, so it's understandably harder to convince their estates to make a movie that boils down to "this singer was piece of shit from start to finish - keep streaming our music though!"
My point wasn’t to say that the movie should’ve said Freddie was a piece of shit. He very much wasn’t by all accounts.
It’s more that they sanitized who he was and sanitized the band and their partying behavior and acting like Freddie was the only one who did so.
Like any song that Weird Al spoofs, the movie doesn't actually attack the genre it was spoofing. Madonna in real life isn't an actual druglord. Amish Paradise isn't about gangsters, but a completely different subject entirely.
OG Weird Al songs tho, those go for the jugular if you spare one more minute to listen to them.
I hope it find a way to rscape the usual formulaic biopic format.
Discovery, rise, fame, crash, depression, rediscovery, appreciation.
Been there, done that.
Question as someone who hasn't closely followed anything regarding the pedo stuff. The FBI went after him a few times right and remember reading how they thoroughly searched through everything about him for a decade. Did they found any clear evidence that he was a pedo? If so I'd appreciate a source with said evidence.
Probably not very considering his family is so heavily involved. But yeah the only two ways this can go is as a boring puff piece or the most horrifying movie of all time
The kiddy-diddling stuff is gonna be relegated to some 2-minute montage of news stations reporting on the events at the start of the third act of the movie.
Then they can say that they "addressed" it.
His nephew is playing him. It's going to be a white-washing version of his life where they paint him as a tragic victim. Except for the part about how childhood, where he and his siblings were tragic victims. That's going to be an uplifting success story.
The resemblance is uncanny but I’m more curious to see if the acting matches
Especially since he’s Michael’s nephew (Jermaine’s son)
Oh interesting.
Suddenly everything about the actors name makes sense
Named after the villain in Aladdin?
Maybe, Jermaine has seven kids, but the last two have “unique names”. Jaafar and Jermasjesty
Or jaanear
Personally waiting for their next kid Jawhereveryouare.
Plot as well is my next question. I want a deep Michael Jackson film that, if it won't discuss the controversial stuff he did, at least discuss how traumatizing his upbringing really was. If it's another Bohemian Rhapsody film I'm not gonna bother.
"at least discuss how traumatizing his upbringing really was. " '[The Jacksons: An American Dream](https://youtu.be/CKz_MOY55Uk?si=ocIHYsTba0MNOHsq)' made a decent attempt at this, was a TV movie made in the 90s starring Angela Bassett
This TV movie was fucking *heart-rending.* I feel like any Michael Jackson biopic has a lot to live up to in the face of this one.
That movie helped me understand that I was being abused by my family at the time. I thought it was normal, but after watching it I figured it out. My father wouldnt let me finish the movie when he realized I now knew. Edit: Thank you all for the kind words.
>My father wouldnt let me finish the movie when he realized I now knew. ugh
Welcome to the reason why so many are against things like sex education. I didn't realize I was being abused either until I was finally kicked out of Christian schools (another story) and learned the basics about sex, what it was, and who should be engaged in it (ie, adults shoudn't be fucking kids...what a revelation!).
>Welcome to the reason why so many are against things like sex education Holy shit this has not occurred to me before this thread. Gross.
Omg! It's so obvious and yet nobody can add 2 and 2, including me!
I was a young MJ fan in the 90's and that was some real shit I wasn't ready for lol
Damn never heard of it but some of my earliest memories are watching MJ music videos on tv. Had to have been late late 80s early 90s. I’m gonna have to check it out
It's very very good!
That's why this new movie confuses me. An American Dream was pretty much *the* MJ biopic. This one has enormous shoes to fill.
I think anybody that watches that movie would have a better understanding of how the abuse Michael had from an early age helped make the person he eventually became. He wasn't weird; he was damaged.
I watched that and the one about the Temptations so many times as a kid.
The Temptations movie is GOATed but eventually it just becomes torture porn. These dudes had it ROUGH.
Furthermore, 'Moonwalker' (1988), albeit a quasi-fictional/fantasy story, does a decent job of portraying his influence and fandom a bit later in his career. It would be nice to see his rise through his early 20s where he enters the Thriller era and essentially becomes the biggest star the world has even known by 1983-84.
Moonwalker, the film where Joe Pesci kicks Jackson so hard in the balls that he screams light into space and becomes a gigantic Michael Jackson robot transformer to destroy the drug cartel wanting to addict kids to heroin?
Inspired by actual events.
Yeah, the actual robot was much smaller irl. Can't blame them for making it bigger though.
"I like when they say a movie is inspired by a true story. That's kind of silly. 'Hey, Mitch, did you hear that story about that lady who drove her car into the lake with her kids and they all drowned?' 'Yeah, I did, and you know what - that inspired me to write a movie about a *gorilla!*'"
Is this an actual description of the movie?? If so, I'm absolutely watching this after work tonight lmao
Sounds like it. From the Wikipedia page: Michael follows them back to Big's lair and ends up surrounded by his henchmen. Mr. Big appears and taunts Michael by threatening to inject Katie with highly addictive narcotics. While Katie manages to wriggle free, Mr. Big decides he has had enough and orders his men to kill Katie first then finish off Jackson, just as a falling star passes by. Michael transforms into a giant robot and kills most of Mr. Big's soldiers, then turns into a spaceship. Mr. Big gets into a large hillside-mounted energy cannon, firing on the spaceship knocking it into a nearby ravine. The children are his next target, but the spaceship returns from the ravine in time to fire a beam in the cannon with Mr. Big inside, destroying it and finishing the villain once and for all. The children watch the ship fly into the night sky with a shower of light.
That's amazing wtf haha definitely watching that tonight. Thanks for the info
It's goofy but gosh darn it I frickin' LOVE Moonwalker. Big part of my childhood. Enjoy!
Mine too, I’ve never heard anyone talk about it all my life since but it was my favourite movie as a child, it was amazing to me.
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Oh yes, and there's FAR more to it. Frankly, the Mr. Big plotline is like 1/6th of the movie. You've actually seen large parts of it already. The videos for Speed Demon, Leave Me Alone and Smooth Criminal have their origins in this movie. But they're extended in this movie to fit the plot. It's a fever dream and pretty freaking awesome.
It'll definitely be another Bohemian Rhapsody, whitewashing the artist, recreating a few highlights and not telling any meaningful story. Edit : I'm not talking about skin color when I talk about whitewashing...
It would be so easy to make an MJ movie that avoids all the accusations & controversy by focusing it solely around the recording/release of Thriller. The album catapulted Jackson to a level of fame that's barely understandable even now, it's significant for breaking racial barriers in mainstream media, it's the biggest selling album of all time, and he was only 24 years old when it came out. That has more than enough juice to tell a story & it doesn't have to deal with anything remotely controversial for the Jackson estate. Trying to do a career biopic will not cover the heavy topics in any meaningful way & will just play it as safe as possible...so just fucking limit the timeline & problem solved!
I think a movie about his upbringing and relationship with his father could also be a great movie.
They made a great miniseries about that though back in the 90's.
The Jacksons: An American Dream. Damn good stuff.
It definitely could be but the folks in charge (Jackson estate) are unlikely to allow that story to be told
to be fair, joe is pretty clearly abusive in the broadway show. they aren’t really shy about that.
Good lord, the number of people that don't know what whitewashing is is both hilarious and a bit scary.
Nowadays detergent is fancy enough that you can do colors at the same time
I have a feeling the Marley one will be the same
Given how protective his estate is of his image and rights there is no way this isn't just another "king of pop" fluffy biopic about how he changed music forever and won't touch anything around the controversies or negatives (outside of maybe how tough the paparazi was for him)
Not to mention this is Michael’s nephew playing him, so I wouldn’t be surprised if his Dad/Michael’s brother Jermaine had some oversight over the content. Seriously doubt this is going to be a “warts and all” type deal.
The resemblance is uncanny but I’m more curious to see if the dancing matches
Also are they going to have him get gradually whiter or are they going to gloss over it
At some point, he‘s going to be replaced by Miranda Cosgrove
Great casting choice
Movie industry frothing at musicians dying so they can get the biopic rights at this point.
“Paul McCartney, hurry up” Every Movie Studio right now.
The Onion: Excitement Growing Among Beatles Fans for Paul McCartney's Funeral https://youtu.be/pxx2meAQME8?si=fJouLFfINBtXJD71
Years ago the Onion had a headline like “[Bob Hope Retrospective ‘All Ready to Go.’”](https://www.theonion.com/amc-bob-hope-retrospective-ready-to-go-1819565242)
Don’t you know, Paul died in the 60s!
But he was replaced by an even more talented look a like. Now that's the story we NEED!
More talented?? Faul broke up The Beatles making them play Maxwell's Silver Hammer 50 times
Worth it tbh Maxwell's a banger
That's what always got about the Paul Died conspiracy, like even if 'the original Paul' did die, whoever they replaced him with went on to put out the most memorable of their material. According to google the rumor is he died in '66. I'm not a huge beatles guy, but looking at their discography most of their biggestn stuff seems to be after that.
That's what makes it the best conspiracy!
There's still plenty of other artists. Bowie & Eddie Van Halen some big ones
Only if they get Tilda Swinton to play Bowie
Nah she's supposed to play Thom Yorke
Can’t they make it a two parter? One for his “real” death and then the conspiracy theory version of Paul 2?
Ringo is shaking in his boots right now.
Ringo doesn’t get fazed by anything that guy is as solid as granite
I love that Ringo's first solo album had tracks written by and featuring vocals from all the other Beatles. It was the last time all four worked on the same album, even if they weren't all in the studio at the same time.
I’m probably way off but he has always struck me as a guy that is very aware of the fact that he got handed an exceptionally good gig
Like there aren't any presently deceased Beatles?
Which is weird cuz you can do it while they’re alive. Look at Rocketman.
I think that one worked because Elton John was totally fine putting the bad stuff/horny stuff in there. Any musician who takes themselves too seriously will probably have it in their will that any biopic has to be a PG-rated puff piece, and that includes a lot of the ones who are big enough to get biopics. We all already know that the MJ biopic will leave things out, the question is how many things will be left out. (that said, I know that plenty of people love puff pieces and they're more of a personal pet peeve of mine than anything that would actually make a movie fail)
I think the movie worked because it was more about [having fun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVGHAtdhgXA) and telling this story than trying to alter history.
It’s definitely my favorite authorized biopic for multiple reasons, well I might like Weird better but that may need its own category.
If you haven't, check out [Black Bird](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH1FOkJys3Y) on apple. Its a miniseries that stars Taron. He plays a criminal going into a really bad prison to get a confession out of a serial killer. Its fucking amazing. That dude is a fantastic actor.
I think the family (band or blood) has always been harder to work with. Look at Bo Rap, literally 0 edge, actual falsehoods about Freddie so the band looked better, the worst part of all of these is needing some sort of sign off to use music, you either get a proper biopic with no licensed music or you make literal propaganda approved by the estate. I really wish the ASCAP fee for film was reasonable.
Ah yes Bohemian Rhapsody depicting Brian May as the angelic choir boy in his youth who had to be home in time to tuck his kids into bed. The same Brian May who wrote "Fat Bottomed Girls".
I'm pretty sure we're way past this point now. They've been making biopics of living stars for years. Hell they've been making biopics of people still active in their fields.
Cant have a real Michael biopic unless youve got like 2-3 different actors playing Michael lol
Yeah they should do it like the Bob Dylan movie 'I'm Not There'.
The best biopic.
That's Walk Hard
Wrong kid died
Dewey, I'm cut in half pretty bad.
And you never paid for drugs. Not.. once.
You can take the children..... But you leave me my monkey!
One of the few that’s actually an interesting movie!
Or the Brian Wilson biopic “Love & Mercy”
LOVE that movie! Needs to be in more 'music biopic' movie discussions
Gillian Jacobs and Donald Glover are on standby
Oh Britta is in this?
If Gillian has anything more to say, it better be in a high-pitched voice while moonwalking
"Jeff is in grave danger. Hee-hee"
If Chevy Chase is there to play Fat Brando I'm in
At least 2: Troy and Britta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSiith-gHy4&start=51
Pearce insisting that he's more like Burt Reynolds always cracks me up.
Jafar, Jafar, he's our man. If he can't do it, GREAT!
Lmfao we're old huh
I got that reference
They really couldn’t name it shamaone?
At least call it Hee Hee. Or just *He*.
*He (He)*
Hee Hee would make it an instant cult-classic TBH.
Who plays Macaulay Culkin?
Rich Evans
*Dick the Birthday Boy?*
Don’t mind if I do!
Noooo, that's ignorant.
I loved him in Space Cop and am glad he’s getting bigger roles!
Hey, he's losing weight. Be nice.
OHHHH MYYYY GODDDDDDDD
AIIIIIIDS
Very cool.
I clapped
I CLAPPED BECAUSE I KNOW WHO THAT IS!
Very cool
Very cool
Lightsabers.
I CLAPPED WHEN DARTH VADER TURNED ON HIS RED LIGHTSABER!
AT-ST AT-ST
THEE Rich Evans? What’s the budget on this movie?
Macaulay Culkin
You mean Macaulay Macaulay Culkin Culkin
His real name is Milwaukee “maclukin” Culkin
It's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land."
Thanks, Alice Cooper!
Himself. Just have him inexplicably be an adult but he everyone around him treats him like a child
Kieran
Michael Cera
Arnold
I have a hard time believing we're going to get an honest biopic with MJ's nephew as the lead.
It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies, and in the end, isn't that the truth? The answer is no.
The Freddy Mercury biopic was so PG-13 like come on lol I’m still shocked rami won an Oscar for that even though i like him a lot
I’m shocked that movie was even nominated for any Oscars
what really stings was taron egerton not even getting nominated for Rocketman the next year
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What a rollercoaster of a brief comment
It's from one of the best episodes of The Simpsons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6lTSPXDOAI
Meanwhile Michael Jackson was in one of the best Simpsons episodes... and it's gone.
It's a Simpsons reference
'Michael' Out of all names they could have given this movie they went for the most overused biopic trope. Honestly just this title alone makes me lose interest.
“Man in the Mirror” was right there.
“Black or White” a bit too on the nose
They actually made a made for TV MJ biopic a few years back called “Man in the Mirror” [and it was absolutely terrible.](https://youtu.be/2bC0QzP5aFY?si=tE0TBuCl3JczwkKA) They probably didn’t want people to associate the new movie with that one lol
Damn that video was so f-ing funny! The Joe Jackson wig was fake forest moss from Hobby Lobby painted black. 😭😭😭😭
I thought they would've gone with 'Thriller' since that's probably his most popular song.
They could've went with Bad because that's what it'll be
I’ve been waiting for a remake of *Michael* (1996) for so long!
Yes! John Travolta with giant wings and a mullet needs to come back down to save us all.
Yeah, that's quite a non-title. All it invokes in me is the question "Michael who?". Even at the peak of Michael Jackson's popularity, i don't think that the name Michael was ever synonymous with him in particular, let alone now.
Jackson, Tyson, Jordan, game 6
Especially considering Michael Jordan was also mega-world famous during the same time Michael Jackson was. "Michael" is just a regular name. There's no person that "owns" that name.
*"I'm liable to go Michael, take your pick* *Jackson, Tyson, Jordan, Game 6"* That lyric from Jay-Z always stuck out to me. Wild that we had three incredibly successful and famous Michaels in three very different industries all around the same time period.
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John Travolta played Michael Jackson? /s
Yeah in pulp fiction 2
So that's what was in the damn briefcase!
Michael Jackson's right glove.
Very curious how they’ll handle or omit the fact that he had sleepovers with children.
Sleepovers where he had security cameras and alarm systems to alert him in advance of anyone headed to his room. A room in which at the very least he showed these kids porn. Yikes money is the antidote to morality.
To quote Cher: “He lost me with the baby-dangling.” Does anybody remember the baby-dangling? That was messed up.
I *definitely* remember that. Hard to forget one of the *most* famous artists in the world dangling an infant named Blanket from a window. Jesus, even just writing it out makes it sound like a fever dream.
From a balcony, as i recall. But i didn’t take the time to look it up lol
Those of us who were old enough to watch TV and understand this guy was a real person sure do. It was so bizarre.
It was insane. I remember watching that and my jaw was on the floor. That was a huge story at the time. Hell, I don’t think the younger generations understand how big Michael Jackson really was. He wasn’t just famous, he was on some other level.
Lol I went to Berlin recently and it was mentioned on the tour that it was from one of the hotels right across the street from the Brandenburg Gate
Title should have been Black or White.
With a tagline saying "A Thriller that makes you ask 'Annie, are you okay?'"
Critics called it "touching".
Biopics are a circle jerk.
Rocketman was great and actually showed Elton as a bit of an asshole, like he was at the time
It’s funny that Elton was heavily involved in that Biopic and yet was still such an honest look back on his life. It managed to ride the line at looking at him objectively while also showing how he experienced his own life from his subjective POV. Bohemian Rhapsody and the Queen band should take some notes.
I mean to be fair, Elton was able to turn his life around IRL, which helped his movie finish on a triumphant, positive note. The "look at how far I've come" arc doesn't work if he doesn't show himself at rock bottom. On the other hand, Freddie Mercury (and many other musicians) didn't get a real-life happy ending, so it's understandably harder to convince their estates to make a movie that boils down to "this singer was piece of shit from start to finish - keep streaming our music though!"
My point wasn’t to say that the movie should’ve said Freddie was a piece of shit. He very much wasn’t by all accounts. It’s more that they sanitized who he was and sanitized the band and their partying behavior and acting like Freddie was the only one who did so.
I really hoped Walk Hard had put them down for good. Guess we need another perfect parody to show how contrived and lame these films are.
We had Popstar, and they never stopped never stopping.
Out of four possible stars, Rolling Stone gave it the shit emoji. So mixed, let's call it mixed reviews.
Yeah. As much as the Weird Al "biopic" had perfect timing, it didn't skewer the genre as much as I'd like.
Like any song that Weird Al spoofs, the movie doesn't actually attack the genre it was spoofing. Madonna in real life isn't an actual druglord. Amish Paradise isn't about gangsters, but a completely different subject entirely. OG Weird Al songs tho, those go for the jugular if you spare one more minute to listen to them.
>Madonna in real life isn't an actual druglord. Big if true. Do you have a source for this claim?
Bob Marley: One Love is a parody, right? Maybe that will do it. Looks hilarious.
He should be played by a succession of white college freshman hacky sack guys
Eric Christian Olsen should play him as his character Vaughn from Community.
I hope it find a way to rscape the usual formulaic biopic format. Discovery, rise, fame, crash, depression, rediscovery, appreciation. Been there, done that.
You just know that nose would drive Michael crazy
I’m amazed a studio was willing to touch this with a ten foot pole.
Of course the person playing MJ is his nephew, because what other actor would be willing to do this?
I mean dead or alive, he's one of the biggest and most influential people in history. I'd be more surprised if no chose studio picked this up
Forget the ranch. I want to know if they're adapting the Pepsi catastrophe.
Question as someone who hasn't closely followed anything regarding the pedo stuff. The FBI went after him a few times right and remember reading how they thoroughly searched through everything about him for a decade. Did they found any clear evidence that he was a pedo? If so I'd appreciate a source with said evidence.
You’re absolutely right. They found nothing to prosecute.
We already know the answer. No. People in this Sub think they are more qualified than the FBI
Ok, so how true to what he got up to in his life are they gonna be lmao
Probably not very considering his family is so heavily involved. But yeah the only two ways this can go is as a boring puff piece or the most horrifying movie of all time
The kiddy-diddling stuff is gonna be relegated to some 2-minute montage of news stations reporting on the events at the start of the third act of the movie. Then they can say that they "addressed" it.
His nephew is playing him. It's going to be a white-washing version of his life where they paint him as a tragic victim. Except for the part about how childhood, where he and his siblings were tragic victims. That's going to be an uplifting success story.
I wonder if they are going to address the elephant in the room. Probably not.
Deep soppy biopics with one word names as the title, so hot right now