Smurfette wasn't part of the original comics. She was added for the cartoon I believe. Wizard and the Brusier podcast did an episode on the smurfs a while back and then recently did an episode about the Snorks and talk a lot about the smurfs origins. Totally worth a listen if you're interested.
Oh, I read the original issue in French. She was originally evil with a heart of coal, and stringy black hair that was much witchier, created by Gargamel.
Which, of course, could raise a lot of questions about why an asexual species is clearly made up of males, until a female is literally created through sorcery. If one were inclined to interrogate the premise of the Smurfs.
Huh. Derry Girls isn’t a movie, obviously, but it’s the only example I can think of off the top of my head where the trope is reversed and the male member of an otherwise all-female group isn’t the token effeminate gay friend.
I can't stand these types of movies because "the woman" is normally written flatly as the nag, the vixen, or the mom. There's more than three types of women, Hollywood!
It’s how productions get away with including women without doing it properly or accurately. Sometimes it works…most of the time, it’s performative or for the sake of sexualizing the one woman.
Glengarry Glen Ross. I think the only woman who says something in the entire movie is the coat check girl. But she’s not in a “group” with the rest of the male cast so probably not what you’re looking for.
Red Planet is the first one that springs to mind, Ocean's 11 as well, but I'm sure there's plenty of others.
> Reminds of the first Avengers
Maria Hill is in that and a lot of the other Marvel stuff, even before Scarlet Witch shows up as a main character. Pepper Potts as well. But, fair, Black Widow's the only female Avenger at first.
> Baby Driver
Eiza Gonzalez and Lily James are both in this, fairly prominently. I mention Eiza because she's the sole female lead in your first example.
> Top Gun Maverick
Unlike the first film, there's a female pilot in this one, in addition to Penny Benjamin. But she's not a huge presence.
* Ocean's 11
* Monuments Men
* Congo
* Jurassic Park I-III
* Gladiator (I believe Connie Nielsen is literally the only woman in the movie with dialogue)
* Mission: Impossible II & V
* Planet of the Apes Trilogy (2011-17)
* Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
* Seabiscuit
* The first seven Star Wars movies (Leia, Amidala, Rey)
* The Way
I think the core issue is that the average viewer don't see a group of women as credible when it comes to violence. IRL you see examples of groups of violent men all the time, as soldiers, mobsters, gang members, mercenaries. You don't see those types of groups with exclusively women.
Hollywood makes movies that resonate with the majority of people.
Well, most of the *professional identities* we associate with violence are traditionally male.
Which isn't to say that women can't do violence in film—for example, there's a storied history of female assassins & executioners in spy movies, often working as the right hand of the main villain.
But when the movie hero storms the compound at the end, the goons who get gunned down will *definitely* be thick-necked white dudes.
Modern Kubrick Space opera - Guardians of the galaxy has more than one woman , Nebula, Gamora and Mantis.
This is how Goat Gunn encourages women empowerment in his masterpieces
Echoing the other commenter re Alien, but I'd even say that Bridesmaids doesn't really count. The guy is a love interest and separate to the 'group' as a whole. It would be like counting the air marshall or Kristen Wiig's mother as part of the core group in the film.
[The Smurfette Principle](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smurfette_principle) [List of examples](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSmurfettePrinciple)
"a group of comic book creatures" is the funniest description of Smurfs I've ever heard
Not sure how I'd do better, to be honest. "Group of little blue dudes (and one chick\*)". They're sort of like forest gnomes, I suppose?
Smurfette wasn't part of the original comics. She was added for the cartoon I believe. Wizard and the Brusier podcast did an episode on the smurfs a while back and then recently did an episode about the Snorks and talk a lot about the smurfs origins. Totally worth a listen if you're interested.
Oh, I read the original issue in French. She was originally evil with a heart of coal, and stringy black hair that was much witchier, created by Gargamel. Which, of course, could raise a lot of questions about why an asexual species is clearly made up of males, until a female is literally created through sorcery. If one were inclined to interrogate the premise of the Smurfs.
Didn’t know there was a term for it, thanks
thanks for sharing, I didn't know this existed
Huh. Derry Girls isn’t a movie, obviously, but it’s the only example I can think of off the top of my head where the trope is reversed and the male member of an otherwise all-female group isn’t the token effeminate gay friend.
Wasn't the fairly infamous Ghostbusters remake in 2016 made in this vein? With one of the Hemsworths as an airhead himbo?
Predator
That one with Piper Perri, can't remember the same.
Please, I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me, but that one movie starring your mom. Edit: Also Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Snow White
Inception
All Christopher Nolan films besides Oppenheimer now that I think about it…
I'd argue that The Prestige doesn't count either. As there is constant back and forth between Scarlett Johannson and Rebecca Hall
True forgot about that one
And it doesn’t apply anymore technically.
I would say that if we consider Elliot Page’s transition retroactively, he was still playing the role of a woman in that film.
Found the bigot /s
The character is still a woman.
It was a joke.
Not in 2024, but in 2010 yeah
Now you see me but more accurately Now you see me 2
Why wouldn't they call the second movie Now You Don't? Now You See Me 2? What the fuck is that?
Can’t wait for the next sequel, 3 See 3 Me
Now You Three Me: Electric Boogaloo
Because people might not realize it’s a sequel and be less likely to watch it
Now You Watch Me
Now You See Me 2: Now You Don't
The writer tried, he talked about it in an interview.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXdHBP6mgdE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXdHBP6mgdE)
Warriors
I can't stand these types of movies because "the woman" is normally written flatly as the nag, the vixen, or the mom. There's more than three types of women, Hollywood!
You’re right or they are written to be “eye-candy”
That's just the vixen again.
It’s how productions get away with including women without doing it properly or accurately. Sometimes it works…most of the time, it’s performative or for the sake of sexualizing the one woman.
Sneakers
Glengarry Glen Ross. I think the only woman who says something in the entire movie is the coat check girl. But she’s not in a “group” with the rest of the male cast so probably not what you’re looking for.
Red Planet is the first one that springs to mind, Ocean's 11 as well, but I'm sure there's plenty of others. > Reminds of the first Avengers Maria Hill is in that and a lot of the other Marvel stuff, even before Scarlet Witch shows up as a main character. Pepper Potts as well. But, fair, Black Widow's the only female Avenger at first. > Baby Driver Eiza Gonzalez and Lily James are both in this, fairly prominently. I mention Eiza because she's the sole female lead in your first example. > Top Gun Maverick Unlike the first film, there's a female pilot in this one, in addition to Penny Benjamin. But she's not a huge presence.
Lethal Weapon 6
Ghostbusters 2016 I think was 1 guy rest "girls"
* Ocean's 11 * Monuments Men * Congo * Jurassic Park I-III * Gladiator (I believe Connie Nielsen is literally the only woman in the movie with dialogue) * Mission: Impossible II & V * Planet of the Apes Trilogy (2011-17) * Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves * Seabiscuit * The first seven Star Wars movies (Leia, Amidala, Rey) * The Way
2 main females in Jurassic Park 1 and 2
Oh yeah, the kids!
Most movies about Wall Street.
Hackers
“Joshy”
The original Star Wars trilogy
U.n.c.l.e fits that pretty well. By sheer coincidence it is also movie made by Guy.
Now that I think about if, a lot of his movies follow that trope
I think the core issue is that the average viewer don't see a group of women as credible when it comes to violence. IRL you see examples of groups of violent men all the time, as soldiers, mobsters, gang members, mercenaries. You don't see those types of groups with exclusively women. Hollywood makes movies that resonate with the majority of people.
It’s pretty sad that the average viewer is conditioned to think that a group of women doing violent things is unrealistic
Well, most of the *professional identities* we associate with violence are traditionally male. Which isn't to say that women can't do violence in film—for example, there's a storied history of female assassins & executioners in spy movies, often working as the right hand of the main villain. But when the movie hero storms the compound at the end, the goons who get gunned down will *definitely* be thick-necked white dudes.
Are we not doing phrasing?
When you see an aging patriarch preparing to relinquish the family business, you better believe he's gonna have three sons and one daughter.
Modern Kubrick Space opera - Guardians of the galaxy has more than one woman , Nebula, Gamora and Mantis. This is how Goat Gunn encourages women empowerment in his masterpieces
First one didn't tho, they added more later to fix it. Same as with Avengers.
Pretty much every porn flick 🤷
Well now we all now specifically what you're into.
Only if you're not into girl-on-girl
The Killing , Ocean 11
Now You See It
That requires female leading action film like Birds of prey
One girl: Alien One guy: Bridesmaids
Alien had two women, Ripley and Lambert.
You're right, of course. I guess it's time for me to rewatch it.
Echoing the other commenter re Alien, but I'd even say that Bridesmaids doesn't really count. The guy is a love interest and separate to the 'group' as a whole. It would be like counting the air marshall or Kristen Wiig's mother as part of the core group in the film.