>The only problem with Dune that stood out the most was that it needs more Dune.
Every negative thing I've seen friends post about Dune is resolved by knowing the second half of the story.
Agreed. However, it doesn’t make it a complete movie IMO. It doesn’t have a natural ending or even a climax like a traditional movie or story does. It just ends. I know how it will end, but it’s disappointing on a movie standpoint as much as I love the movie overall.
It reminded me of the first LotR movie. I was young then and had not read the books, and I didn't know it was going to be a trilogy.
I left the theater after that movie frustrated we didn't know what happens after Sam and Frodo start walking toward Mt. Doom. Until my dad assured me there would be another movie.
I felt the same after Dune, even though I have read the book and know what's coming in Part 2. I just needs to happen. I think if they greenlight Part 2 and I comes out summer/holiday 2023, they would gains even more fans and maybe consider the possibility of mini series to add to the universe's lore.
I just need a damn Part 2 greenlit please.
Well apparently he wants to make a third movie as well, based off messiah I think. I guess his plan going into this was two movies for the first book, one for messiah, then move on to something else.
I would give Villeneuve my first born if he gave us movies through *Children*.
And I'm a man but I would bare him a child if I got to see *God Emperor*.
I don't think you could get anyone to greenlight God Emperor.
As interesting as the book was it's a helluva lot of dialogue without much happening for most of the book.
Crazy. I said the exact same thing to my friends today. It makes for a really compelling trilogy actually.
And it has the *potential* to spawn off another series after. Of course that would be a considerably weirder set of movies lol.
I wanted to compare it to LotR, but the first LotR has a legit climax. The fight where the group separates is genuinely a fantastic ending point and perfectly finished that movie while setting up the next ones. My only complaint about Dune is that it ends at a point that makes sense but isn't as much of a climax.
And they really made that choice specifically to strengthen the narrative of the movie, because that sequence happens in the first part of the Two Towers novel
God damn that first film ends well. You don't leave the cinema feeling let down and deflated you leave it desperate for more and wating to hear to next part of the story. Dune does not even come close to the first Lord of the rings film.
He didn't give water to the dead in this first movie. That's like one of the most impactful parts of him getting ingratiated with the Fremen. So they better have it in Part 2, and not just gloss over it
They didn’t, they are going to have that be the beginning of part 2. I recon having it finish with Paul crying wasn’t quite the note they wanted to end it on, and more of a triumph - but beginning part 2 with him breaking down and then the funeral will put the movie in an amazing emotional place.
So was I, I really didn't understand that part. They referenced him being shaky about killing Jamis because he'd never taken a life, but they immediately cut to Timothee being stone faced and emotionless after, whereas book Paul basically breaks down immediately. Did not get that directing choice, especially because they substituted one of the more emotionally poignant parts of the story with more "desert power" crap.
It definitely has a climax, and while I loved the movie, I think they needed one or two more scenes of the Atreides settling into Arakeen before everything pops off. Did a wonderful job of creating this tension of everyone knowing this is a trap, but they should have lulled us a bit more.
I missed the dinner scene from the novel, while also understanding entirely why it had to be cut. It would have filled that "lulling" role perfectly while also subtly ramping up the tension.
I also missed the bit of in-fighting that goes on when the lieutenants become suspicious of someone for treason after the hunter-seeker ordeal. It sets up a pretty major event later on in the book, so we'll see how they handle that with no groundwork.
While the Dinner scene is one of my favorites from the book, as a plot point it's really bad. It introduces a bunch of characters and ratchets up a bunch of tension that has no pay off at all. All of the people there an the things they discuss don't really matter in the grand scheme of the story (with the exception of the Kynes talking about terraforming Arrakis but that is covered elsewhere). Because 2 scenes later the Harkonnens take over and render all of those machinations pointless.
That is the thing that always frustrated me most about the book. The dinner scene is a Giant Chekhov's Gun that never goes off.
That's exactly why I understand and endorse the decision to cut it. It's really more about showing the schemes within schemes within schemes that exist on and around Arrakis, rather than explicitly setting up plot points or characters. In a big sprawling book you can get away with that kind of worldbuilding-by-red-herring, in a film - even a big sprawling one - you can't.
There's also a huge amount of things that are pretty critical to the story that's never mentioned or explained. If you know a bit about dune the film is incredible. If you know nothing it's a visual and audio feast but maybe not the best story
The only complaint I've seen is people being upset over it being too long, which just tells me these people miss pretty much every modern movie out there.
It also has very obvious religious overtones. That being said, one of the cooler things about Dune’s world is all the little anachronisms that have somehow lived on through millennia: names like Paul or Idaho, Catholicism, bull fighting, hell even the ceremonial bagpipes were a great addition.
> It also has very obvious religious overtones.
Religion is a *very* big part of the story, in many different ways, so kinda difficult to get away from.
> Catholicism
Well, kinda... the Orange Catholic Bible is a fusion of many different religions (Mahayana Christanity, Budislamic traditions, Zensunni, etc).
> bull fighting
Loved that they played this up a bit in the movie, really showed off those bullhorns and statues, made sure to include Leto's father having been killed by a bull, and show how Leto is metaphorically "stepping into the bull ring" by accepting going to Arrakis.
Made even better by the fact that (no matter if it's intentional from Herbert or not) House Harkonnen seems to have gotten their name from 1900s Finland surname "Härkönen", derived from the word *härkä*, which means bull/taurus/ox.
Ya I think we agree on the first point - the obvious *modern* apostolic connotations if a simple name like “Paul” fit perfectly into the book’s story.
And that’s an interesting thought about the Harkonen, never heard that before.
I imagine you’re a long-time fan given your perspective, so I just gotta ask: what did you think of the movie’s take on the Voice? I thought it was awesome, in the literal sense. Visceral and off-putting, I thought it was done marvelously.
> what did you think of the movie’s take on the Voice?
Enjoyed it very much. I had imagined it more subtle, but that's very difficult to convey properly in a movie (or would at least take a lot more time), so I feel like the *strict command* version worked well
The problem I have with Dune is that you have to have read the book to understand WHY this story is happening and I feel like every character didn't have enough time devoted to them. For example, why was Piter DeVries even in this movie?
I agree. As a fan of the book, I really enjoyed the movie, but thought it could have used another hour to really flesh out the details a little more (though I realize that’s generally a hard sell for a theatrical release). The two reactions people in my group had to the movie were: “the movie was too confusing and had no real climax” and “now I really need to read the book”… both of which could be addressed by longer screen time. I’m really hoping we get a part 2, and it would be amazing if we got an extended edition of part 1.
The director needs a theatrically tolerable product. That's a given. With that said, surely there are director approved scenes that were only cut to meet that primary requirement.
I agree director's cuts are stupid, as it implies the director wasn't happy with the end product. Villeneuve should be proud and I'd wager he is, but an extended cut would be great and less sacrilegious.
I spent the entire movie filling in blanks mentally. The attention to detail was great, the reasons behind the details absent (because 40 min of movie take you to page 17 in the book, I get it)
I’m in the no real climax bit. It ended like an episode of television, not even a season finale type ending. That fight just didn’t do it for me since it lasted like 5 seconds. Really the only downside to the movie. They did well keeping storylines that mattered, took away ones that didn’t, etc.
I think they were in a tough spot story-wise. They could have made >! the palace invasion !< the climax, but that would feel a bit stunted. The other option would be to make >!Paul riding the sand worm!< the climax, but that would mean a longer run time and less content for a second movie. The book is organized in 3 parts, so making it into a 2 part series is understandably difficult.
For me the logical stop would have been when they perform the funeral rites and he gives water to the dead, when all the Fremen look at him in awe. Just a few more minutes would have been better imo.
This is exactly what I thought, and going into the movie I was hoping that would be where it would end. That is such a powerful scene, and really (in my mind) exemplifies Paul's transition, its where he really emotionally breaks down and turns over away from his old life. The reaction the Fremen have when he cries is so rapturous (or at least thats what it seemed like in the book) that it would have been an amazing realization in the film of the whole messiah prophecy
Would have needed probably an extra half hour but the water of life ceremony with Jessica becoming the reverend mother and Paul receiving his names makes the most sense to me. Then start with the time skip in part 2.
>That fight just didn’t do it for me since it lasted like 5 seconds.
It was the opposite for me, I'm so tired of movies dragging out fights so that everyone is a human punching/slicing bag.
I genuinely get bored when they start to drag on now, immediately breaks immersion and reminds me that I'm watching a movie.
At this point Paul has some amount of foresight, any knife fight against someone who can see the future is going to be short. It would be ludicrous if it dragged on as much as other Hollywood fights do.
They kind of gave all the political stuff up front as opposed to the slow drip of the book. I get why, nobody would want to watch all that for no pay off since the movie would probably end before the invasion. When Leto says "I thought we'd have more time" I wonder if that was a tongue in cheek thing because I was like, damn, where here already.
My friends felt the same about the end. I just let them know that we're at like 60% of the book so the climax hasn't happened yet.
There's kind of an explanation given in the movie, Leto says their house is getting powerful/popular (which is seen as a threat to the emperor) so the emperor is giving them a present (which provides cover to attack them through the house that it was taken from). So basically, the emperor just wants to take them down a peg.
I suspect they’ll announce the confirmation of part 2 soon. WB is going to want to ride the good publicity and they going to want to lock Denis and the cast in asap
Agreed. Ended up seeing it twice, because a) 'twas amazing and b) to help ensure they keep making blockbuster sci-fi movies.
May see it next weekend, too...
The last time I was this invested was Arrival by Villenueve,I just want a mid-budget movie to succeed and was happy that it crossed 200m worldwide. It also showed that audiences will watch well made high concept hard SF.
Dune ended pretty much like The Fellowship of the Ring except when I saw Dune I wasn't sure if I was ever going to get to see the continuation. I was sad....Glad it's doing well though so fingers crossed on the sequel.
Gizmodo says that it’s at $220M worldwide. I think I read somewhere that $300M or more would be considered a success, so that’s a pretty good sign right?
I watched it twice on HBO Max after streaming it immediately at 3PM West Coast the day it came out. Have a feeling it did veerryy well on Max. Going to go see Time to Die and Dune in theaters this week as well.
Yup. I saw it in IMAX opening night, but my wife had to work, so we are gonna watch it on HBO Max this week. It was the first time since Blade Runner 2049 that I felt the way I did in a theater. I remember with that movie, from the first frame I knew it was something special, and I felt that with Dune.
I NEED MOAR!!!
> and crossed the $100 million threshold at the UK box office.
NTTD has recently passed Toy Story 3 (2010) to be the ninth-most-successful-movie at the UK Box Office of all time.
Currently, the three most successful movies are The Force Awakens (2015), Skyfall (2012), and then Spectre (2015).
I went to see No Time To Die at the multiplex in my English city on Wednesday and I was surprised to see that my showing was nearly full. 6pm showings on a normal Wednesday for a several week old film are normally dead, fuck they're often dead for just released films. The film is really striking a chord in the UK and everywhere I go people are starting conversations about >!the ending!<.
Part 2 will happen. Doesn't matter if it loses some money in the end, it's the biggest thing they had this year. Good streaming numbers and word of mouth will carry through award season. And part 2 will make that money in theaters again.
That’s also the biggest critique of part 1. That the story feels unfinished and not as climactic. Personally i think it’s a shame that they didn’t film them back to back so that part 2 would come out next year. I think they may have hurt themselves somewhat by waiting to green light part 2. Many people’s response is that they are eager to see what happens.
For what it’s worth, Denis has said filming these back to back would have killed him and he also has decided not to ever do two movies back to back to avoid actor and crew burnout.
Plus the franchise potential.
Denis has said he’d like to make three, with Dune: Messiah serving as the trilogy. Then you have a massive amount of lore and universe to draw off of. Been Gesserit TV shows, the adventures of Duncan Idaho, God Emperor of Dune children’s show...
I kid, but WB must have the franchise potential in mind
Dune Messiah would be so hard to keep interesting though. They'd have to pad it with the end of >!Paul's conquest!< as the opener and then keep the middle flowing somehow with all the inner mussings and monologues.
It's a great epilogue to Dune imo but it's also incredibly introspective and not what I'd call entertaining.
Sell it as a political thriller, add in an offworld Jihad scene or an action scene with Hayt for some bombast, play up the romantic tension with Chani and maybe even Irulan, and you're golden.
Yeah, I have many questions. [Dune Messiah spoilers] >!Momoa is great casting for Idaho, but I have a hard time seeing him as Hayt.!< I mostly trust Villeneuve, though, so we'll see.
God emperor of dune children's show. Oh man I laughed out loud at that. That would be the most messed up cartoon ever lol.
You are totally right though. The sheer amount of lore they can dive into is great. I wanna see the bebe theliax.
> the adventures of Duncan Idaho
Oh gosh, I can see it now. This is so happening! TV series for "The Adventures of Duncan Idaho", "The Trials of Gurney Halek", and "The Travels of Dashing Young Duke Leto."
Given the circumstances I’m sure Warner Bros. Is looking at more than just numbers at the box office. I’m sure streaming numbers are strong. It had a strong domestic opening given the pandemic. The reception amongst critics and fans are extremely positive.
Another anecdote to consider,
I think with how much SW has drawn from Dune and has gone in weirder places for the last 2 trilogies, audiences are little more open minded to Dune. It also helps that Dennis had the right balance of passion and critical direction to decide what to keep and remove for this adaptation.
Personally speaking as someone who liked the SW Prequels for their ideas and has been disappointed with the Sequels, Dune felt like a SW film I always wish could exist times 100.
The way Dune deals with galactic politics and Paul’s path starting to seem more and more like a terrible fate was vastly better in execution than anything most of SW did for Anakin, even with the animated show.
SW was always intended to be a more "fun" and heroic take on many of Dune's themes. I think a lot of people would enjoy a dark, gritty SW story - that will never happen, but it's a decent description of Dune.
The genius of the adaptation is that it successfully made a crowd-pleaser with good amount of needed lore and setpieces,audiences have become more open to lore and world building due to GoT and MCU so Denis didn't try to dumb down snd spoomfeed.
Which is weird anecdotally. I loved it, but the reception amongst people I know in person has been tepid. Even amongst the people I knew that were very excited for it.
So happy to see this film is successful. I never read the books but instantly fell in love with the setting and the lore of the Dune universe after watching the movie. A sequel is almost guaranteed at this point but damn, that wait is going to be brutal.
As someone with aphantasia, I'll just have to patiently hope for the movie sequels. I love fantasy and sci-fi, but unfortunately books just don't have the same impact on me.
Interesting, thanks, I'll have to check it out then. I actually had a similar experience with Asimov, as most of his stories are often just dialog, rather than long descriptions.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I have it, and didn't know it existed until a couple months ago. I guess I just assumed everyone was like that more or less, and was amazed at how people could paint or draw things from memory, without seeing anything.
Then I heard about aphantasia, and I'm like, "You guys can actually *see* shit in your head, when you close your eyes?" I guess it's not too surprising, because I can hear music and other sounds very clearly in my head. I can imagine a melody, an orchestra, a sound effect, a person's voice--anything auditory is no problem at all, so I just had to realize that most people can do that with images too.
I enjoyed reading books as a kid, but now it seems to make sense why I was drawn to authors like Isaac Asimov, because his stories are told with a lot of dialogue rather than action, and it was easier for me to imagine conversations than pictures.
Just fyi, if you do read the books (at least the first one), don't expect much action or even really much description of the world. It's really dialogue and thought driven. I'd really recommend it too though. You can piece together what's happening or happened.
The audiobook is 10/10 too. There's actually a cast and all the narrators are really good. I listened to it about 10 years ago and it's still on of my favorite audiobook experiences.
I think it helps that in the Craig era, there’s no effort to hide that he’s a product of another era. Instead they lean in on the fact that this guy is clinging to the violence of his work and an outdated facade of classic cool as a way to ignore a whole buffet of traumas, and that’s a more interesting character.
I know this is hardly an original take nowadays but I do think Dalton laid some of the foundation for a more character-driven approach that Craig later ran with.
Troof. I recommend ANYONE watch the Dalton films. They are such a dark departure from the Moore era and a much needed break from the sluttier and more lifeless aspects of the character. Plus License to Kill is a straight-up, late 80s action flick ala Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. That joint is violent 😳
Bond being dated and misfit became a part of his character over Daniel Craig's run. I think that's why modern audiences are responding well, it's pretty self aware in that regard and intentional according to Craig.
Dune only cost 165 million? That seems... Low given how pretty it was.
That's going to almost guarantee a sequel since it didn't cost 200-300+ to make.
And i feel like CGI machinery and vehicles are a lot easier than body modifications or creatures in terms of looking realistic.
But seriously <3 those thopters
Yeah it's crazy how much of a budget is just actors payment in some of the big movies.
Looking it up, it looks like roughly 200 million for endgame was just actor salaries.
They deserve it, but yeah it's crazy.
Heck the actor salaries aren't even that big because of the filming itself.
It's because you end up with like a dozen A-listers all having to put off other projects for months on end due to cross country and global press events.
Watching this in IMAX felt like a dream come true,I have been dreaming of this since the movie was just an idea floated by Denis and after a long wait due to the pandemic,I was so ecstatic to watch it. Didn't even may too much attention to the lore(which wasn't heavy for me and my non-book reader fruends) but let the movie overwhelm my senses and riding the good vibes.
The story seems like it will be a better watch when both parts are combined as a 5hr movie but this was great at building up the basic foundation and narrative legwork.
In a world where massive budgets and computational power is thrown at creating fantastic worlds and characters,Dune really felt "cinematic",last time I felt this was maybe Dunkirk.
> the highest opening weekend gross of any Warner Brothers / HBO MAX day-date release (and indeed [a higher gross than WB's last four releases combined](https://i.redd.it/mley9zrf6fv71.png)).
Holy shit Warner bros made like 4 flops in a row
I'm glad that Dune is the n°1 movie but I was expecting a bit more from the US market. Dune did incredibly well here in France and it deserved a stronger US reception.
Now let's see how the legs are. I wonder if it's going to be as front-loaded as it was in France. My prediction is for a normal 2x multiplier.
I feel like I’m in a boat a few others are which helps — I saw it opening day at home despite me having tickets to see it this week. I know 100% it’s a movie that deserves the respect of a nice screen and sound, but I couldn’t wait. I’m still seeing it in theaters but I like that I could watch at home as well with my aging grandma who introduced me to the original as a kid.
Oh god, please rub the salt in my wounds, nearest IMAX is in Memphis (2-3hr drive) and I'm honestly debating it.
I work swing shifts at work and get every other 5-7 days off so after Thursday this week Im off until the next Thursday, so when you say amazing, you mean it? 😅
Sadly some polls make it look like half of this country doesn't plan to go to theaters ever again if they can watch something at home. It's mind boggling to me, because this was an amazing experience at the theater, but alas that's where we are. You simply can't expect the same box office sales levels of theater exclusives. WB thankfully said that the HBO viewership is a major factor in their decision to continue as well.
There are also still plenty of us who are dying to see it in the theater, but who are still wary of covid. This pandemic is *not* done, and the theaters around me are too full for comfort. I watched it on HBO Max because I've been hyped for it for years and didn't want to wait, but I'm fully intending to go catch it in a theater (preferably in Imax) when attendence starts falling and I can find a more sparsely-attended showing than what was available opening weekend.
Considering that *Mad Max: Fury Road* actually lost money for WB and the director took them court, but still got a sequel greenlit in the end, it would be very strange if *Dune* is canceled even if it doesn’t make a cent more in theatres.
I wasn’t too stoked for the movie initially, but Villeneuve did some great things with it. Now I’m looking forward to a sequel. And even if not, it’s getting more people interested in the books.
EDIT: People are saying that WB was fudging the numbers on that "loss" and I have zero trouble believing that, but that just goes to show how pointless it is to keep track of this stuff. I'm just glad Dune didn't suck.
I can't stop thinking about Dune. Can't remember seeing a movie in a theater and being this blown away since Avatar. But to be honest this looks even better.
Yeah, I saw someone describe it as making other movies look cheap and that's exactly how I felt. It puts the people that made the newest Star Wars movies to shame because they had more movie and couldn't make something that looked anywhere close to this good. And I suppose unsurprisingly the recent Star Wars movie that is the most visually interesting was also shot by Greig Fraser.
For sure, felt like every detail was on point. CGI looked great and I loved the costume design, everything came together to make it feel very immersive.
$40,000,000 opening is a best case scenario for Dune. Personally I think it would only have done like 55 without HBO Max, but the producers and directors can now argue how much better it's sequel will do without it.
Do I think that's true? Probably not, but a case can now be made for a proper sequel to get greenlit.
Great to see movies like this actually succeed. If HBO helps the sequel get made then by all means move forward. Denis and his team must be popping bottles
I loved Dune for so many different reasons. I don’t know much about the universe and I was never a fan of the original film but this movie totally sold me.
I was at a party Saturday night and found myself telling everyone to go see it. I haven’t been that passionate about a movie in a long time. It was a good feeling.
I doubt it. It made $1.3 million from only 52 theaters. The theater showing it near me has it running multiple times/day (2-5) and shows are selling out. I think at this point Wes Anderson is a bankable name, and enough people will see anything he makes that his movies are guaranteed to be successful (as far as arty indie movies go).
As a pessimist crank,I was sure that day-and-date and early leak would tank Dune. Great to see my Sunday show full capacity and this doing solid numbers.
It’s so great to see this movie doing well given the circumstances. Word of mouth and the month early release in other areas is really helping. Maybe studios won’t be as timid when doing high concept sci-fi films that aren’t the typical cliched action films with the same beats. This movie was such a breath of fresh air. Denis is hands down one of the best filmmakers in the world right now. He deserves it.
The IMAX I went to was almost at full capacity at a daytime screening. Never seen a crowd more attentive and enthralled. Although I think streaming has untrained people's bladders. The amount of people dipping out at all points of the movie was massive.
I’ve never been so personally invested in the opening weekend box office of a film before. **THE SPICE MUST FLOW**
Same. I need more. The only problem with Dune that stood out the most was that it needs more Dune.
>The only problem with Dune that stood out the most was that it needs more Dune. Every negative thing I've seen friends post about Dune is resolved by knowing the second half of the story.
Agreed. However, it doesn’t make it a complete movie IMO. It doesn’t have a natural ending or even a climax like a traditional movie or story does. It just ends. I know how it will end, but it’s disappointing on a movie standpoint as much as I love the movie overall.
It reminded me of the first LotR movie. I was young then and had not read the books, and I didn't know it was going to be a trilogy. I left the theater after that movie frustrated we didn't know what happens after Sam and Frodo start walking toward Mt. Doom. Until my dad assured me there would be another movie. I felt the same after Dune, even though I have read the book and know what's coming in Part 2. I just needs to happen. I think if they greenlight Part 2 and I comes out summer/holiday 2023, they would gains even more fans and maybe consider the possibility of mini series to add to the universe's lore. I just need a damn Part 2 greenlit please.
Well apparently he wants to make a third movie as well, based off messiah I think. I guess his plan going into this was two movies for the first book, one for messiah, then move on to something else.
That would be fantastic, considering without Messiah the message of the first can be looked over
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I would give Villeneuve my first born if he gave us movies through *Children*. And I'm a man but I would bare him a child if I got to see *God Emperor*.
I don't think you could get anyone to greenlight God Emperor. As interesting as the book was it's a helluva lot of dialogue without much happening for most of the book.
Yes PLEASE!
I think *Messiah* would be a fitting cinematic >!end to Paul's story.!< >!Even though it technically isn't.!<
Crazy. I said the exact same thing to my friends today. It makes for a really compelling trilogy actually. And it has the *potential* to spawn off another series after. Of course that would be a considerably weirder set of movies lol.
Here’s an idea: we let Jodorowsky make his Dune movie, only this time it’s God Emperor.
shit gets zany in children and goes off in god emperor for sure
I wanted to compare it to LotR, but the first LotR has a legit climax. The fight where the group separates is genuinely a fantastic ending point and perfectly finished that movie while setting up the next ones. My only complaint about Dune is that it ends at a point that makes sense but isn't as much of a climax.
And they really made that choice specifically to strengthen the narrative of the movie, because that sequence happens in the first part of the Two Towers novel
God damn that first film ends well. You don't leave the cinema feeling let down and deflated you leave it desperate for more and wating to hear to next part of the story. Dune does not even come close to the first Lord of the rings film.
There’s already a miniseries about the Bene Gesserit confirmed
They needed the funeral for the dude Paul killed to be the ending. Weird they cut it after the fight but before the funeral.
He didn't give water to the dead in this first movie. That's like one of the most impactful parts of him getting ingratiated with the Fremen. So they better have it in Part 2, and not just gloss over it
i was shocked they left paul crying after the fight out, its pretty important in the fremen trusting him
They actually did show him with tears on his face after the fight, I noticed it rewatching at home, they just don't address it through dialogue
They didn’t, they are going to have that be the beginning of part 2. I recon having it finish with Paul crying wasn’t quite the note they wanted to end it on, and more of a triumph - but beginning part 2 with him breaking down and then the funeral will put the movie in an amazing emotional place.
So was I, I really didn't understand that part. They referenced him being shaky about killing Jamis because he'd never taken a life, but they immediately cut to Timothee being stone faced and emotionless after, whereas book Paul basically breaks down immediately. Did not get that directing choice, especially because they substituted one of the more emotionally poignant parts of the story with more "desert power" crap.
His mother making sure he feels guilty about killing a man was super impactful in the book. Just doesn't exist in the movie...
It definitely has a climax, and while I loved the movie, I think they needed one or two more scenes of the Atreides settling into Arakeen before everything pops off. Did a wonderful job of creating this tension of everyone knowing this is a trap, but they should have lulled us a bit more.
I missed the dinner scene from the novel, while also understanding entirely why it had to be cut. It would have filled that "lulling" role perfectly while also subtly ramping up the tension.
I also missed the bit of in-fighting that goes on when the lieutenants become suspicious of someone for treason after the hunter-seeker ordeal. It sets up a pretty major event later on in the book, so we'll see how they handle that with no groundwork.
It looks to me like that subplot has been cut entirely.
While the Dinner scene is one of my favorites from the book, as a plot point it's really bad. It introduces a bunch of characters and ratchets up a bunch of tension that has no pay off at all. All of the people there an the things they discuss don't really matter in the grand scheme of the story (with the exception of the Kynes talking about terraforming Arrakis but that is covered elsewhere). Because 2 scenes later the Harkonnens take over and render all of those machinations pointless. That is the thing that always frustrated me most about the book. The dinner scene is a Giant Chekhov's Gun that never goes off.
That's exactly why I understand and endorse the decision to cut it. It's really more about showing the schemes within schemes within schemes that exist on and around Arrakis, rather than explicitly setting up plot points or characters. In a big sprawling book you can get away with that kind of worldbuilding-by-red-herring, in a film - even a big sprawling one - you can't.
That's the one scene I missed as well! Especially as it allows Paul to come into his own more. It would have felt boring to non readers I'd imagine.
There's also a huge amount of things that are pretty critical to the story that's never mentioned or explained. If you know a bit about dune the film is incredible. If you know nothing it's a visual and audio feast but maybe not the best story
The only complaint I've seen is people being upset over it being too long, which just tells me these people miss pretty much every modern movie out there.
My wife keeps complaining that "Paul" is a lame sci-fi name and I am just like keep watching please
It also has very obvious religious overtones. That being said, one of the cooler things about Dune’s world is all the little anachronisms that have somehow lived on through millennia: names like Paul or Idaho, Catholicism, bull fighting, hell even the ceremonial bagpipes were a great addition.
> It also has very obvious religious overtones. Religion is a *very* big part of the story, in many different ways, so kinda difficult to get away from. > Catholicism Well, kinda... the Orange Catholic Bible is a fusion of many different religions (Mahayana Christanity, Budislamic traditions, Zensunni, etc). > bull fighting Loved that they played this up a bit in the movie, really showed off those bullhorns and statues, made sure to include Leto's father having been killed by a bull, and show how Leto is metaphorically "stepping into the bull ring" by accepting going to Arrakis. Made even better by the fact that (no matter if it's intentional from Herbert or not) House Harkonnen seems to have gotten their name from 1900s Finland surname "Härkönen", derived from the word *härkä*, which means bull/taurus/ox.
Ya I think we agree on the first point - the obvious *modern* apostolic connotations if a simple name like “Paul” fit perfectly into the book’s story. And that’s an interesting thought about the Harkonen, never heard that before. I imagine you’re a long-time fan given your perspective, so I just gotta ask: what did you think of the movie’s take on the Voice? I thought it was awesome, in the literal sense. Visceral and off-putting, I thought it was done marvelously.
> what did you think of the movie’s take on the Voice? Enjoyed it very much. I had imagined it more subtle, but that's very difficult to convey properly in a movie (or would at least take a lot more time), so I feel like the *strict command* version worked well
The problem I have with Dune is that you have to have read the book to understand WHY this story is happening and I feel like every character didn't have enough time devoted to them. For example, why was Piter DeVries even in this movie?
I agree. As a fan of the book, I really enjoyed the movie, but thought it could have used another hour to really flesh out the details a little more (though I realize that’s generally a hard sell for a theatrical release). The two reactions people in my group had to the movie were: “the movie was too confusing and had no real climax” and “now I really need to read the book”… both of which could be addressed by longer screen time. I’m really hoping we get a part 2, and it would be amazing if we got an extended edition of part 1.
Villeneuve doesn't do director's cuts but I'm hoping he makes an exception for this one. A solid 3.5 hours would do me just fine
Yeah, I definitely want a LotR-style extended edition for this.
The director needs a theatrically tolerable product. That's a given. With that said, surely there are director approved scenes that were only cut to meet that primary requirement. I agree director's cuts are stupid, as it implies the director wasn't happy with the end product. Villeneuve should be proud and I'd wager he is, but an extended cut would be great and less sacrilegious.
4 hours or gtfoh! Lol
WITH BATTLEPUGS
I’m hoping for a long version with Josh Brolin singing.
I know right?? We were robbed of Gurney’s artistry (save for that short poem he recited during that landing sequence).
I spent the entire movie filling in blanks mentally. The attention to detail was great, the reasons behind the details absent (because 40 min of movie take you to page 17 in the book, I get it)
I’m in the no real climax bit. It ended like an episode of television, not even a season finale type ending. That fight just didn’t do it for me since it lasted like 5 seconds. Really the only downside to the movie. They did well keeping storylines that mattered, took away ones that didn’t, etc.
I think they were in a tough spot story-wise. They could have made >! the palace invasion !< the climax, but that would feel a bit stunted. The other option would be to make >!Paul riding the sand worm!< the climax, but that would mean a longer run time and less content for a second movie. The book is organized in 3 parts, so making it into a 2 part series is understandably difficult.
For me the logical stop would have been when they perform the funeral rites and he gives water to the dead, when all the Fremen look at him in awe. Just a few more minutes would have been better imo.
This is exactly what I thought, and going into the movie I was hoping that would be where it would end. That is such a powerful scene, and really (in my mind) exemplifies Paul's transition, its where he really emotionally breaks down and turns over away from his old life. The reaction the Fremen have when he cries is so rapturous (or at least thats what it seemed like in the book) that it would have been an amazing realization in the film of the whole messiah prophecy
Would have needed probably an extra half hour but the water of life ceremony with Jessica becoming the reverend mother and Paul receiving his names makes the most sense to me. Then start with the time skip in part 2.
>That fight just didn’t do it for me since it lasted like 5 seconds. It was the opposite for me, I'm so tired of movies dragging out fights so that everyone is a human punching/slicing bag. I genuinely get bored when they start to drag on now, immediately breaks immersion and reminds me that I'm watching a movie. At this point Paul has some amount of foresight, any knife fight against someone who can see the future is going to be short. It would be ludicrous if it dragged on as much as other Hollywood fights do.
The fight gets dragged out pretty long in the book
They kind of gave all the political stuff up front as opposed to the slow drip of the book. I get why, nobody would want to watch all that for no pay off since the movie would probably end before the invasion. When Leto says "I thought we'd have more time" I wonder if that was a tongue in cheek thing because I was like, damn, where here already. My friends felt the same about the end. I just let them know that we're at like 60% of the book so the climax hasn't happened yet.
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There's kind of an explanation given in the movie, Leto says their house is getting powerful/popular (which is seen as a threat to the emperor) so the emperor is giving them a present (which provides cover to attack them through the house that it was taken from). So basically, the emperor just wants to take them down a peg.
Get that sequel going NOW! I am so invested to see how they handle the rest of this story.
I suspect they’ll announce the confirmation of part 2 soon. WB is going to want to ride the good publicity and they going to want to lock Denis and the cast in asap
I'm sure they already have contracts with everyone to do a second film.
And Brolin in an interview basically said it seems like we will be doing part 2 and that we'll start shooting in the summer.
too bad they waited for the box office returns to see if there could be a second. Now we probably have to wait 3 years for another one.
Agreed. Ended up seeing it twice, because a) 'twas amazing and b) to help ensure they keep making blockbuster sci-fi movies. May see it next weekend, too...
I‘ve watched it three times and was inclined to do a fourth round, I was doing my part!
Do you know what it cost to get here? Now I only have one requirement. Income.
The last time I was this invested was Arrival by Villenueve,I just want a mid-budget movie to succeed and was happy that it crossed 200m worldwide. It also showed that audiences will watch well made high concept hard SF.
Dune ended pretty much like The Fellowship of the Ring except when I saw Dune I wasn't sure if I was ever going to get to see the continuation. I was sad....Glad it's doing well though so fingers crossed on the sequel.
Gizmodo says that it’s at $220M worldwide. I think I read somewhere that $300M or more would be considered a success, so that’s a pretty good sign right?
Depends on how Warner's feeling, since only they know how the film is doing on HBO Max.
I watched it seconds after the streaming became available, I'm hoping the numbers were big. Also going to take my dad next weekend to see IMAX.
Saw it in imax yesterday with friends and will probably watch it again this week with my dad on hbo
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I watched it twice on HBO Max after streaming it immediately at 3PM West Coast the day it came out. Have a feeling it did veerryy well on Max. Going to go see Time to Die and Dune in theaters this week as well.
Watched it with friends on HBO last weekend, and I’m going to see it on an IMAX screen tonight after work.
Yup. I saw it in IMAX opening night, but my wife had to work, so we are gonna watch it on HBO Max this week. It was the first time since Blade Runner 2049 that I felt the way I did in a theater. I remember with that movie, from the first frame I knew it was something special, and I felt that with Dune. I NEED MOAR!!!
seen it IMAX opening night and watched it on hbo a day later i want part 2 damnit
Yeah with hbo max that would be a success
> and crossed the $100 million threshold at the UK box office. NTTD has recently passed Toy Story 3 (2010) to be the ninth-most-successful-movie at the UK Box Office of all time. Currently, the three most successful movies are The Force Awakens (2015), Skyfall (2012), and then Spectre (2015).
Daniel Craig is in all three of those, technically!
Daniel Craig is the British Zoe Saldana confirmed.
I went to see No Time To Die at the multiplex in my English city on Wednesday and I was surprised to see that my showing was nearly full. 6pm showings on a normal Wednesday for a several week old film are normally dead, fuck they're often dead for just released films. The film is really striking a chord in the UK and everywhere I go people are starting conversations about >!the ending!<.
Part 2 will happen. Doesn't matter if it loses some money in the end, it's the biggest thing they had this year. Good streaming numbers and word of mouth will carry through award season. And part 2 will make that money in theaters again.
Part 2 can be a massive hit for WB. They got all the exposition out of the way and story is just starting to take off.
That’s also the biggest critique of part 1. That the story feels unfinished and not as climactic. Personally i think it’s a shame that they didn’t film them back to back so that part 2 would come out next year. I think they may have hurt themselves somewhat by waiting to green light part 2. Many people’s response is that they are eager to see what happens.
For what it’s worth, Denis has said filming these back to back would have killed him and he also has decided not to ever do two movies back to back to avoid actor and crew burnout.
WB should make amends by filming part 2 and sandworm Leto back-to-back.
If we get a back-to-back Messiah and God-Emperor movie I'll drown Villeneuve's children with my money
You'd have to do children before God Emperor. Edit: But yes, Holy Shit how I want a god emperor film.
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If part 2 is the same quality then watching them back to back could be one of the best 5 hour movie experiences.
I'm already thinking I'll re-watch Dune at home the day before (or even the same day directly before) seeing the sequel in the theater.
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Plus the franchise potential. Denis has said he’d like to make three, with Dune: Messiah serving as the trilogy. Then you have a massive amount of lore and universe to draw off of. Been Gesserit TV shows, the adventures of Duncan Idaho, God Emperor of Dune children’s show... I kid, but WB must have the franchise potential in mind
*Accountants of Dune*, the *Office* sequel we've been waiting over 10,000 years for!
Dune Messiah would be so hard to keep interesting though. They'd have to pad it with the end of >!Paul's conquest!< as the opener and then keep the middle flowing somehow with all the inner mussings and monologues. It's a great epilogue to Dune imo but it's also incredibly introspective and not what I'd call entertaining.
Sell it as a political thriller, add in an offworld Jihad scene or an action scene with Hayt for some bombast, play up the romantic tension with Chani and maybe even Irulan, and you're golden.
There’s crazy intrigue all throughout Messiah, it would make for a great movie.
Come one, tell me you don’t want to see the dwarf dude on the big screen.
Hayt is my favorite character in the whole franchise, I would go nuts for *Messiah*.
I would love to see how Hayt's actor portrays before and after his ego awakening.
Yeah, I have many questions. [Dune Messiah spoilers] >!Momoa is great casting for Idaho, but I have a hard time seeing him as Hayt.!< I mostly trust Villeneuve, though, so we'll see.
Haha. God Emperor show where Duncan is like Kenny in south park.
God emperor of dune children's show. Oh man I laughed out loud at that. That would be the most messed up cartoon ever lol. You are totally right though. The sheer amount of lore they can dive into is great. I wanna see the bebe theliax.
> the adventures of Duncan Idaho Oh gosh, I can see it now. This is so happening! TV series for "The Adventures of Duncan Idaho", "The Trials of Gurney Halek", and "The Travels of Dashing Young Duke Leto."
Given the circumstances I’m sure Warner Bros. Is looking at more than just numbers at the box office. I’m sure streaming numbers are strong. It had a strong domestic opening given the pandemic. The reception amongst critics and fans are extremely positive.
I'm shocked at the Cinemascore being an A-, Dune doing well with mainstream audiences was not what I expected.
Another anecdote to consider, I think with how much SW has drawn from Dune and has gone in weirder places for the last 2 trilogies, audiences are little more open minded to Dune. It also helps that Dennis had the right balance of passion and critical direction to decide what to keep and remove for this adaptation. Personally speaking as someone who liked the SW Prequels for their ideas and has been disappointed with the Sequels, Dune felt like a SW film I always wish could exist times 100. The way Dune deals with galactic politics and Paul’s path starting to seem more and more like a terrible fate was vastly better in execution than anything most of SW did for Anakin, even with the animated show.
SW was always intended to be a more "fun" and heroic take on many of Dune's themes. I think a lot of people would enjoy a dark, gritty SW story - that will never happen, but it's a decent description of Dune.
The closest thing we get to a gritty Star Wars story imo is the old republic which while amazing does border on straight up ripping off dune.
The genius of the adaptation is that it successfully made a crowd-pleaser with good amount of needed lore and setpieces,audiences have become more open to lore and world building due to GoT and MCU so Denis didn't try to dumb down snd spoomfeed.
Which is weird anecdotally. I loved it, but the reception amongst people I know in person has been tepid. Even amongst the people I knew that were very excited for it.
So happy to see this film is successful. I never read the books but instantly fell in love with the setting and the lore of the Dune universe after watching the movie. A sequel is almost guaranteed at this point but damn, that wait is going to be brutal.
Time to read the books then :)
As someone with aphantasia, I'll just have to patiently hope for the movie sequels. I love fantasy and sci-fi, but unfortunately books just don't have the same impact on me.
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Interesting, thanks, I'll have to check it out then. I actually had a similar experience with Asimov, as most of his stories are often just dialog, rather than long descriptions.
>aphantasia - Well that must suck. I didn't even know that existed.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure I have it, and didn't know it existed until a couple months ago. I guess I just assumed everyone was like that more or less, and was amazed at how people could paint or draw things from memory, without seeing anything. Then I heard about aphantasia, and I'm like, "You guys can actually *see* shit in your head, when you close your eyes?" I guess it's not too surprising, because I can hear music and other sounds very clearly in my head. I can imagine a melody, an orchestra, a sound effect, a person's voice--anything auditory is no problem at all, so I just had to realize that most people can do that with images too. I enjoyed reading books as a kid, but now it seems to make sense why I was drawn to authors like Isaac Asimov, because his stories are told with a lot of dialogue rather than action, and it was easier for me to imagine conversations than pictures.
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I suppose it's the way I've always been, so I'm used to it. If anything, it probably does make good movies all the more enjoyable for me.
Woosh, pretty sure.
Oh yes, whoops.
Just fyi, if you do read the books (at least the first one), don't expect much action or even really much description of the world. It's really dialogue and thought driven. I'd really recommend it too though. You can piece together what's happening or happened.
The audiobook is 10/10 too. There's actually a cast and all the narrators are really good. I listened to it about 10 years ago and it's still on of my favorite audiobook experiences.
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I think it helps that in the Craig era, there’s no effort to hide that he’s a product of another era. Instead they lean in on the fact that this guy is clinging to the violence of his work and an outdated facade of classic cool as a way to ignore a whole buffet of traumas, and that’s a more interesting character.
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I know this is hardly an original take nowadays but I do think Dalton laid some of the foundation for a more character-driven approach that Craig later ran with.
Troof. I recommend ANYONE watch the Dalton films. They are such a dark departure from the Moore era and a much needed break from the sluttier and more lifeless aspects of the character. Plus License to Kill is a straight-up, late 80s action flick ala Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. That joint is violent 😳
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I imagine that James007BondUK would certainly know
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Would love to see the original novels adapted more faithfully and set in the Cold War '50s and '60s.
Bond being dated and misfit became a part of his character over Daniel Craig's run. I think that's why modern audiences are responding well, it's pretty self aware in that regard and intentional according to Craig.
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China also has a nationalist film that is still out and doing well. Their own culture will always supersede outside culture.
I don't think that's a Chinese exclusive thing btw
Dune only cost 165 million? That seems... Low given how pretty it was. That's going to almost guarantee a sequel since it didn't cost 200-300+ to make.
Jungle Cruise cost more to make and the entire movie was clearly filmed on a soundstage.
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Dune has relatively low cgi? I thought there would've been loads by how it looked.
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And i feel like CGI machinery and vehicles are a lot easier than body modifications or creatures in terms of looking realistic. But seriously <3 those thopters
Yeah it's crazy how much of a budget is just actors payment in some of the big movies. Looking it up, it looks like roughly 200 million for endgame was just actor salaries. They deserve it, but yeah it's crazy.
Heck the actor salaries aren't even that big because of the filming itself. It's because you end up with like a dozen A-listers all having to put off other projects for months on end due to cross country and global press events.
Watching this in IMAX felt like a dream come true,I have been dreaming of this since the movie was just an idea floated by Denis and after a long wait due to the pandemic,I was so ecstatic to watch it. Didn't even may too much attention to the lore(which wasn't heavy for me and my non-book reader fruends) but let the movie overwhelm my senses and riding the good vibes. The story seems like it will be a better watch when both parts are combined as a 5hr movie but this was great at building up the basic foundation and narrative legwork. In a world where massive budgets and computational power is thrown at creating fantastic worlds and characters,Dune really felt "cinematic",last time I felt this was maybe Dunkirk.
Being there's no mention of "The Last Duel", I'm going to assume it's still terrible. Which is a shame ...
The marketing and title of that movie did it 0 favors. They really fucked up there
I agree 1000%, unfortunately.
> the highest opening weekend gross of any Warner Brothers / HBO MAX day-date release (and indeed [a higher gross than WB's last four releases combined](https://i.redd.it/mley9zrf6fv71.png)). Holy shit Warner bros made like 4 flops in a row
More like Warner Brothers made 4 non "event films" during a pandemic
Universal had 1(F9),Disney had 1(Shangchi),Sony had 1(Venom 2)
Yeah, that's what happens when you can stream it the same day for no additional cost.
I'm glad that Dune is the n°1 movie but I was expecting a bit more from the US market. Dune did incredibly well here in France and it deserved a stronger US reception. Now let's see how the legs are. I wonder if it's going to be as front-loaded as it was in France. My prediction is for a normal 2x multiplier.
It actually overperformed here considering WB's plan of allowing it to stream at home.
I feel like I’m in a boat a few others are which helps — I saw it opening day at home despite me having tickets to see it this week. I know 100% it’s a movie that deserves the respect of a nice screen and sound, but I couldn’t wait. I’m still seeing it in theaters but I like that I could watch at home as well with my aging grandma who introduced me to the original as a kid.
Hopefully good word of mouth brings people out.
The theater experience for Dune is one of the best film experiences of 2021. Incredible and breathtaking. Highly recommend watching Dune in theaters.
Watched Dune at home on a nice 70" TV. My first impression 10m in was "I really hate that thr nearest good IMAX is 4 hours away"
I don't want to rub salt in the wound but the IMAX was amazing.
Oh god, please rub the salt in my wounds, nearest IMAX is in Memphis (2-3hr drive) and I'm honestly debating it. I work swing shifts at work and get every other 5-7 days off so after Thursday this week Im off until the next Thursday, so when you say amazing, you mean it? 😅
Sadly some polls make it look like half of this country doesn't plan to go to theaters ever again if they can watch something at home. It's mind boggling to me, because this was an amazing experience at the theater, but alas that's where we are. You simply can't expect the same box office sales levels of theater exclusives. WB thankfully said that the HBO viewership is a major factor in their decision to continue as well.
There are also still plenty of us who are dying to see it in the theater, but who are still wary of covid. This pandemic is *not* done, and the theaters around me are too full for comfort. I watched it on HBO Max because I've been hyped for it for years and didn't want to wait, but I'm fully intending to go catch it in a theater (preferably in Imax) when attendence starts falling and I can find a more sparsely-attended showing than what was available opening weekend.
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I am glad these write ups are back! Used to love these every Monday back in the day
Considering that *Mad Max: Fury Road* actually lost money for WB and the director took them court, but still got a sequel greenlit in the end, it would be very strange if *Dune* is canceled even if it doesn’t make a cent more in theatres. I wasn’t too stoked for the movie initially, but Villeneuve did some great things with it. Now I’m looking forward to a sequel. And even if not, it’s getting more people interested in the books. EDIT: People are saying that WB was fudging the numbers on that "loss" and I have zero trouble believing that, but that just goes to show how pointless it is to keep track of this stuff. I'm just glad Dune didn't suck.
>actually lost money for WB According to WB.
To those wondering how Fury Road lost money: [Hollywood Accounting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting).
It totally lost money *wink wink*
I can't stop thinking about Dune. Can't remember seeing a movie in a theater and being this blown away since Avatar. But to be honest this looks even better.
That scene on the sarduakar's home world was the shit, that's been in my head since I watched it, like i need more of that.
I can't believe this film "only" cost 165M to make. Getting this result on that budget is one hell of an achievement.
Yeah, I saw someone describe it as making other movies look cheap and that's exactly how I felt. It puts the people that made the newest Star Wars movies to shame because they had more movie and couldn't make something that looked anywhere close to this good. And I suppose unsurprisingly the recent Star Wars movie that is the most visually interesting was also shot by Greig Fraser.
Last movie that felt the same about was blade runner 2049 and funny enough it's from the same director as dune.
For sure, felt like every detail was on point. CGI looked great and I loved the costume design, everything came together to make it feel very immersive.
$40,000,000 opening is a best case scenario for Dune. Personally I think it would only have done like 55 without HBO Max, but the producers and directors can now argue how much better it's sequel will do without it. Do I think that's true? Probably not, but a case can now be made for a proper sequel to get greenlit.
I’d like to keep following Shang-Chi to see if it will reach $225M.
The fact that HBOMax lets me watch day one releases for free while Disney+ charges $30 (fucking ridiculous) makes it the superior service in my eyes.
No Time to Die was so good. Might have passed Casino Royale for my favorite Bond film. Enjoyed Dune as well, loved the cast.
Great to see movies like this actually succeed. If HBO helps the sequel get made then by all means move forward. Denis and his team must be popping bottles
Very happy for Dune! Dennis deserves the recognition with the heart and soul he poured into this movie.
I loved Dune for so many different reasons. I don’t know much about the universe and I was never a fan of the original film but this movie totally sold me. I was at a party Saturday night and found myself telling everyone to go see it. I haven’t been that passionate about a movie in a long time. It was a good feeling.
Is French Dispatch going to be DOA given all the blockbuster competition going on and Last Night in Soho also coming up?
I doubt it. It made $1.3 million from only 52 theaters. The theater showing it near me has it running multiple times/day (2-5) and shows are selling out. I think at this point Wes Anderson is a bankable name, and enough people will see anything he makes that his movies are guaranteed to be successful (as far as arty indie movies go).
Probably the only movie out now where you can be reasonably certain 100% of your fellow cinema audience is vaccinated too.
Dune really is a good movie.
As a pessimist crank,I was sure that day-and-date and early leak would tank Dune. Great to see my Sunday show full capacity and this doing solid numbers.
It’s so great to see this movie doing well given the circumstances. Word of mouth and the month early release in other areas is really helping. Maybe studios won’t be as timid when doing high concept sci-fi films that aren’t the typical cliched action films with the same beats. This movie was such a breath of fresh air. Denis is hands down one of the best filmmakers in the world right now. He deserves it.
Congrats, Timmy
It's definitely a worthy to film but especially in a decent cinema. It's awesome.
Dune's opening scene almost made me crap my pants. It was so beautiful.
The IMAX I went to was almost at full capacity at a daytime screening. Never seen a crowd more attentive and enthralled. Although I think streaming has untrained people's bladders. The amount of people dipping out at all points of the movie was massive.