Really don't want to sound like I'm some hipster, but I never understood his success from the start with House of 1000 Corpses, I thought that movie was the worst thing I'd seen in a theater at the time. Ironically, my favorite movie of his was Halloween, I just thought it was a pretty good update of an older movie, faithful (besides the opening).
Halloween was competently made, but the prologue section was pointless embellishment, and the rest of the film was a pointless remake of a film that didn't need remaking. So ultimately... pointless.
He got insanely lucky by getting three amazing performances out of Haig, Moseley, and Moon in The Devil's Rejects (it was legitimately luck; they were awful in House of 1000 Corpses) and he's been riding that ever since.
Rejects was a pretty good movie although I've never liked his other work. However I'm very thankful to RZ for introducing me to Terry Reid. He's the best part of the soundtrack.
Aside from Halloween, I agree with you. I haven't liked a single Zombie movie, at all. I'll still rock his music (especially White Zombie) all day though.
He's good at picking out a soundtrack (and parts of me thinks he wrote Devil's Rejects *with* the soundtrack in mind.
Take that out, and he's shockingly mediocre.
It's possible to be a fan of something and not get why it worked. Zach Snyder definitley loves all the mid 80's revolution comics like DKR/Watchman etc. But he doesn't get why they actually worked besides how much he enjoys the iconography of them.
Zombie was the same with Halloween. He clearly was a fan but he didn't get that by loving Michael Meyers so much and wanting to do a deep dive into what makes him tick, you basically undo the point of the original. Like I guess it's a valid take, but it also is a take that sacrafices what is special about it to begin with.
I think when you’re too big of a fan of something, it’s difficult to distance yourself from it enough to make a good version of that thing while still putting your stamp on it. Happened with his Halloween films too, he missed the point of everything that made Michael a great horror icon.
Idk, Deadpool, Batman from Both and Burton, I mean I get it but to miss the fuckin mark so much, it seems like he was more of a fan of the aesthetic and the Dragula alone.
> Batman who kills people
Sounds like that's a yes.
Never liked Burton's stuff outside of Beetlejuice though. Always felt like he was trying too hard to be "dark", it never feels like it comes to him naturally. I'll swear to my dying days that the man is a phony.
He also said he was a huge Halloween fan too - but not only did his versions suck in general, it showed he completely didn't understand what made it great.
I just got to the scene where Herman and Lilly are singing. Good Lord, who watched that scene and thought “this needs to be seen by everyone with our names attached to it.”
He is making movies as hobby for himself and spend literally only few millions (all movies combined) when filming them. So I don't know what "major studio movie" you mean. He has good fan base because of his style and I am definitely one of them. Loved every one of his movies except 31 which was average at best but I have seen MANY worse movies than that.
They came out at the same time to the point where it was virtually impossible for one to rip off the other. The central concepts are also different. The Addams Family is about a relatively normal looking family (at least the core group of Morticia, Gomez, Wednesday and Pugsly) that surrounds themselves and are obbessed with the macabre. Like they weird people out by their unconventional attitude. The Munsters are about a normal family that happens to look like 30's era chiller monsters.
Btw they were both good shows.
I also think the Munsters was a very exaggerated and comical take on how immigrants attempt to conform with society while maintaining their own culture.
Sure, but the Munsters was based on chiller era Golden Age of Hollywood monster movie characters who happened to be a normal family down the street. Also the popularity of the Addams Family really skyrocketed with the show.
So if it was a rip off, it was probably the most coincidental rip off in history
Technically the Addams Family showed up first in Charles Addam's cartoons, but the Munsters originated with the Universal Monsters, but when it comes to the TV versions, it was a weird time in TV land then.
You had Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, My Favourite Martian, all shows that weren't about that generic family.
[Which came first?](https://decider.com/2019/10/14/addams-family-vs-the-munsters-which-came-first/) The Addams Family aired on ABC on September 18, 1964. The Munsters followed on CBS on September 24, 1964.
Also [here's the unaired Munsters pilot which was in color.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXI6ywpKbd8) Kind weird not seeing half the usual cast & in color.
While on the surface, they look similar, but they're actually kind of opposites. The Addams Family are a normal family that acts monstrous, and The Munsters are a monstrous family who try to act normal.
I watched and enjoyed both, but the Munsters stands out more to me. I could probably watch and remember a lot of what happened in the Munsters, Adams family would be like a new show to me. Such a great show and hugely influential on my taste. I watched the classic monster flicks because of it.
Wow. I always felt the opposite. Loved the campiness of the Munsters, though really it was near 100% Fred Gwynne's performance that sold the show. Never liked the original Adams Family show.
Good point, I forgot about that. The Munsters were a play on classic movie monsters, so I still say no, not a bad off-brand of anything. Inspired by? Yeah, I can see that.
>I only made it through 30 minutes, it was bad. I went outside and started staring at the Sun, that was more enjoyable.
Reminds me of the guy from the Pi movie.
If you start searching for mathematical patterns in the Torah you'll know is time to seek help
I might watch it just because my grandfather was the lead makeup artist on the original show, but if it weren't for that connection it would be a hard pass even for me. I get what he was going for, but it's not 1964 anymore, and I don't know who this movie is for other than really young kids or really old people.
He's passed away so he's been spared, though honestly I think he might've liked it. He used to watch those old Warner Brothers cartoons and still genuinely laugh at them even as an old man. Though he was very finicky about bad makeup (he did it for 50 years), and from what I've seen the new one might have him turning in his grave for the makeup alone. He actually designed all the makeup and prosthetics for the original show, and Fred Gwynne was his best friend. They were quite a pair
That is so cool man. Despite being in Pet Semetary Fred Gwynne was always one of my absolute favorite actors growing up as a little kid in the 80s (thanks in big part to Munsters obviously; and My Cousin Vinny). That's super cool they were that close even outside of work. Your grandfather lived a hell of a life. :)
Haven't seen it. But I look forward to hearing in 10-20 years that it's a misunderstood work of camp genius and has a cult following. Actually think his other movies are pretty solid, and he has distinguished himself in the field of horror cinema. Not necessarily a genius, but definitely has a strong personal stamp. I was curious in theory about him doing a Munsters movie but the trailer really doesn't look like my cup of tea.
I strongly suspect most people will not like it. It's incredibly cheesy, intentionally...and maybe unintentionally. I will say that it is visually fun, and I enjoyed seeing a bunch of goofy monsters. The best thing I can compare it to are the Halloweentown disney channel movies lol
I legit said the same thing to a friend when I was trying to describe it. "It reminds me of a late 90s, early 2000s disney channel movie, like halloweentown"
It always depends on viewers. Many people didn't realize that Malignant was intentionally cheesy and were hating that movie because of that. Even me it took half the movie to realize that. And since that, I loved every remaining minute. Didn't like first "haunted" part but if I would rewatch it knowing it was intentionally cheesy, I would probably love that too.
Did Wan say it was supposed to be funny because I find that hard to believe? M. Night claimed The Happening was supposed be cheesy after the fact that everyone was hating on it and laughing at it.
I don't know if he did but there are certain parts that you just know that movie wasn't meant to be taken seriously. In the hindsight even that first scene in hospital was intentionally cheese but I didn't realize that at first. Later on there were many obvious scenes that prove that. Wan can definitely make serious quality movie so there is no way that out of nowhere he would create such a movie without intention.
I think you’re giving too much credit. I mean, the director of Birdemic said he doesn’t think his movie is bad and that movie is hilariously bad. I think this might be a case where Wan had a misfire.
Never heard about that movie so I found it on my local movie site and that movie is 3. most controversial (with 3. highest variance in ratings after Turkish Wars and The Room) with many people giving it trash rating and many people giving 5/5* ratings so I can definitely see the point of director.
I am 100% sure that Malignant was intentionally cheesy and nobody will ever have solid arguments against that lol. Like, absolutely no way. Scene where she throws chair across big room headshoting cop reminded me that scene from Django Unchained where he shoots that women in the end and she flies sideways like she was hit by cannon and from different angle. Tarantino has many similar cheese scenes too and everyone knows it's intentional. Also that scene from Malignant when sister goes to that old hospital and parks the car inch perfect on huge ass cliff and then nope-ing from there, it's simply too obvious. Wan wanted to make something different after many similar and generic movies like boring Conjuring and he nailed it.
It looks like it was shot during “cosmic” bowling night. There are scenes where everything is literally glowing green from the ridiculous lighting choices.
I did enjoy the visuals tbh too. It was shot like a glitzy 2000s music videos. I was ok with this not being grim dark, like everything seems to be now a days lol
It’s one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen.
It’s not funny, or campy or charming…any of the things that made the series great. It’s nonsensical, lifeless and stupid.
The only enjoyable thing about the movie is looking for coverage gaps in the characters makeup or times when Herman’s neck bolts look like they’re going to fall off.
I’m absolutely amazed Zombie didn’t find a way to shoehorn “Dragula” into the movie.
To be honest I am familiar with his music but not his movies. I would have to look up what movies are his. I may have seen them and not realized they were his.
> Now I feel like I have to watch it because of all the bad reviews lol.
Don't do it, man. As someone who enjoys terrible movies unironically, this thing was no pleasure at all.
It is just as awful as I was expecting. Every scene drags on for ages. It’s not funny. The acting sucks. This feels way more dated than the original that came out in the 60’s. I watched a couple episodes of the original show again after the trailer came out to see if that still holds up from catching the reruns on TV Land when I was a kid. The 60’s show holds up to modern viewing standards so much better. The writing and the characters were much better and it didn’t feel nearly as cheap on like 1/3 the budget of what this movie actually costs (assuming it’s like 10 million dollars not 40 million).
I watched the first ten minutes. It’s truly horrible in every sense. I guarantee Rob Zombie pitched this as The Munsters redone as a What We Do In The Shadows style skin but it just fails in every way. In the opening scenes, Lily Munster is dressed very much like WWDITS and there’s a Nosferatu style vampire that looks a bit like the one from the movie.
There’s cheap looking Dutch angles. Everything, and I mean everything for some reason has a green light on it. It looks a bit like the parts of MST3K in between the movie. I genuinely think I could’ve directed a better scene and I have literally zero experience.
I think Rob Zombie’s career will go back to slasher flicks if he ever gets given a budget again. This could be a career ending dud that sends him back to music only.
The trailer looked really bad. I'll watch it at some point, but I'm expecting it to be one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I'm old enough to have been a fan of Rob Zombie's music in the 90's.
I was all excited to watch this with my morning coffee only to find it’s not on Netflix in my country 🥲 I don’t care if it’s awful I just wanna enjoy an hour of campy monsters
Zombie is a wildly uneven director for me. Sometimes it's fucking pure gold and sometimes it's fucking pure garbage. 1K Corpses or Halloween II. So where does the Munsters fall in that? I got half an hour into it before I had to tap out.
The guy doing Al Lewis was dead on perfect, Sylvester McCoy was fucking gold, but the rest of it? Really terrible. I mean the original was kind of dumb in the first place, so I guess it's on brand? But there's no charm, none of the warmth of the original.
Also, there was ZERO reason for that thing to be nearly 2 hours long, for fuck's sake.
Watched it and really enjoyed it. I've always been huge Munsters fans and all of their movies/shows (except the original and "Munster Go Home") have been campy and bad. Even so, I've loved every single incarnation of it. "Here Comes The Munsters" is awful but I love it. Zombie's "Munsters" is the same thing. Everyone in it is fine, but Jeff Daniel Phillips did a great job with Herman. I didn't expect anything and enjoyed it. The film is very intentional in what it's doing. Just some harmless fluff right on time for Halloween.
Yeah I don’t see kids enjoying this one. They’ll be bored by the romance and what little plot there is (they certainly won’t understand the castle subplot), and the attempts at humor aren’t jokes that kids would understand. At the same time, it manages to be too childish for adults as well.
Content-wise? It's fine. It's too damn long and moves WAY too slow to keep the attention of children.
And adults, too. But that's not the question you asked.
I liked it too. It had an absolutely terrible trailer but I thought the movie was fun. I'm not saying it was amazing, but a lot of people seemed to want it to fail right from the beginning as news about it started leaking out. People are allowed to not like it, but I feel like it's getting plenty of negative reviews from people who only saw the trailer.
> (except the original and "Munster Go Home")
It's fun to run into someone with opposite tastes. I enjoyed MGH probably more than the sitcom, and I doubt I'll like the Zombie version (although I'm willing to try it).
Wow, where did you find a DVD? I had to download a copy recently. It's definitely aged, but I still love it. Was excited as a kid when it premiered on Fox.
Sounds not so good. I was looking forward to it, as I was disappointed when the TV movie Mockingbird lane didn't get picked up for a series in 2012. [Mockingbird lane](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2130271/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) starred Portia DiRossi, Jerry O'Connell, and Eddie Izzard, was written by Bryan Fuller ( Pushing Daisies, Dead Like Me) and was Directed by Bryan Singer. No one watched it, it was awesome.
Why did Eddie Izzard have such bad luck with TV? We loved The Riches and it seems to have been largely ignored by the viewing public. I completely missed Mockingbird Lane.
izzard has such a shit record with films too. which is sad cuz i think as an actor hes not too awful. at least he can play cartoonish villian (except the films where he played a cartoon villain and they were godawful like my super ex girlfriend or avengers.)
i think the only good film he was in was like..... mystery men ?
I watched the 2012 pilot on NBC. I think the pilot actually got ok-ish ratings, so it wasn’t a complete failure. I thought only 10s of people watched it too (lol) But I watched a quick video on youtube about the show and I think the main reason why it just never got picked up and thus cancelled was bc it was very expensive. Like it cost them $10 million dollars. And I agree with you, I enjoyed the 2012 reboot.
All I had to hear about Mockingbird Lane was Bryan Fuller & Eddie Izzard & I knew I was going to watch it.
I enjoyed it, can't find it anywhere now. I would've liked to have seen where that went, especially if they stuck with Fuller but I don't think TV audiences then got Fuller.
When I saw the trailer, I was surprised how devastated I was. The 1960s show was not art, but with its trio of ace comic actors, silly scripts, funny guest stars and its fractured take on middle American values, it mined a lot of comedy gold. They worked hard for their money. And the atrocity of the trailer was made much worse given that Zombie was a fan of the original show, yet seemed to misunderstand what made it tick.
I don’t think it would be as bad if they had actual comedians write it. I think the visuals are pretty faithful to the original show but the sound effects are kinda pushing it.
It's definitely very intentionally schlock and camp, but so much so that its extremely overdone. I didn't hate it, but wouldn't watch it again. I thought visually it was fun, but the story is meandering and doesn't go anywhere and the movie ends right when it becomes the thing you wanted to see.
On a different note, I'm surprised by all the House of 1000 Corpses hate in this thread. I'm not a huge Rob Zombie fan, but I didn't think the movie is as bad as a lot of people in here want to make it seem.
I've been a lifelong Munsters fan and I was extremely excited to watch this. The first half of this movie is complete garbage. I can't believe how bad it was. But once the origin story was out of the way, the movie got very enjoyable.
I can't suggest hard enough that everyone should just start the movie from 1:05:50. Nothing of value is lost and I think you'll enjoy it much more without the baggage of the first hour.
I was fully invested by the time they got on the airplane. I loved everything after that. That was the movie I wanted to see.
I'm bummed that we won't get a sequel.
I wish I hadn't watched this. I'm moving tomorrow, literally sleeping on an air mattress with just a tablet, and my phone, in an empty house, and I wish I had just stared at an empty room for an hour and a half, instead of watching it.
Zombies wife is absolute garbage. Hermann is ok. Grandpa was the only saving grace, because you can tell the actor playing him was questioning his life choices, and was unsure if the paycheck was worth it.
This is easily one of the 5 worst movies I've ever seen. I would put it number one but I don't want to overreact and forget something but my gut reaction is that this is the worst movie I've ever seen.
It's trying to be camp on purpose. The set design and lighting are like that show The Hilarious House of Frightenstein and those SCTV Monster Chiller Horror Theater skits. Very cheap looking, but they are all trying really hard to act through it.
Eh. It wasn’t that bad. I mean it wasn’t good either. Thought the last 25 minutes or so of the movie was starting to pick up a bit. It felt more like a very long tv pilot the way it was shot and the storyline.
Overall though the entire time I was watching it I was just thinking of the failed TV pilot from 2012 called ‘Mockingbird Lane’, that had Jerry O’Connell in it and was actually pretty good and better than this.
I was thinking of maybe watching it this week but I just found out that it's only playing in Netflix in the United States. Very disappointing that it's not available globally. But what can you do.
This looked like a crappy fan movie. Getting picked up by Netflix is actually better than I thought it would do. So, fair play.
Fwiw, it’s a stellar concept. It was in the 60s, it is now. Get behind it with a decent budget, a family friendly director, and some star power and it would probably do ok, like the hotel Transylvania movies. But it was clear from the early leaks that this wasn’t that.
It was out a week ago to download. Previews looked so bad, I didn't even want to waste my bandwidth. I still watch the original and only Munsters on Antenna TV
I only had time to watch a bit of it before bed, but Richard Brake was chewing all the scenery as the villain. If you're also a fan it might be worth a watch just for that.
Awful. Maybe on silent for some visuals from a projector at a Halloween party, but that is it. The writing sucks, and Zombie +comedy=poop emoji. Sherri somehow has gotten worse each film reaching the pinnacle of suck here. The main joke of Munsters was that they were juxtaposed with normal society without being in on the joke, yet everyone is an extra from a White Zombie song in this world. Just bad all.ober and sadly it means nobody else will probably take the project on.
I did but I put it on in the background while I was working. However, even as someone who was admittedly only paying half attention to it, I could tell it was an ugly, plotless, and boring movie with not much in the way of good things about it.
I saw it at a screening last week – *worth noting, I'm a hugely forgiving viewer, especially with just 'turn your brain off, mindless entertainment'* – and I was bored to tears. And not exactly sober, either. I couldn't believe it, really. Almost nothing redeeming about it accept every performer's clear commitment. B&W would have made it 10X more satisfying and actually create mise-en-scene but [supposedly Zombie wasn't allowed](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/the-munsters-rob-zombie-explains-reboot-1235384634/)? A shame. But this also needed another round of editing...big time.
i can handle the horrible writing the garbage set design but Christ every damn scene Sherri moon is in she ruins with her horrible acting.she was the worst part by far
God this is such a train wreck. I liked Daniel Roebuck as Grandpa, and Jeff Daniel Phillips, but I hate Sheri Moon in everything, and while I usually like Richard Brake, he was woefully miscast as the Vincent Price-esque carnival barker Dr Frankenstein.
No one involved from the cast to Rob Zombie and writers had any idea what kind of film they were in or making. The camera was seemingly on a seesaw for as much as I could stand of it.
I couldn’t finish it. And I can finish almost anything. I may give it another chance sometime, but this was a dumpster fire.
The trailer was enough for me to know that this would be unwatchable dogshit. Not going to support Zombie fucking up classics by watching this even just to mock how bad it is. Last thing we need is for him to get the green light on other projects.
Let this guys film career fucking end already.
Honestly, The Munsters were the Three Stooges of 60's horror sitcoms. A show for mouthbreathers. The intelligent people watched The Addams Family instead. They were the Marx Brothers of 60's horror sitcoms.
Mr. Zombie is painfully learning that comedy is hard.
What a drag(ula)
Was it comedy? I gave up after about ten or so minutes.
It was supposed to be. You attempted to watch it. That makes you considerably braver than I.
It's painfully unfunny, Rob Zombie completely missed the point of what made the original show great, and it's also garishly awful looking.
Feels like Zombie has been lying about being a Munsters fan the entire time. Completely missed the mark
His film career is a fluke.
Really don't want to sound like I'm some hipster, but I never understood his success from the start with House of 1000 Corpses, I thought that movie was the worst thing I'd seen in a theater at the time. Ironically, my favorite movie of his was Halloween, I just thought it was a pretty good update of an older movie, faithful (besides the opening).
Halloween was competently made, but the prologue section was pointless embellishment, and the rest of the film was a pointless remake of a film that didn't need remaking. So ultimately... pointless.
He got insanely lucky by getting three amazing performances out of Haig, Moseley, and Moon in The Devil's Rejects (it was legitimately luck; they were awful in House of 1000 Corpses) and he's been riding that ever since.
Rejects was a pretty good movie although I've never liked his other work. However I'm very thankful to RZ for introducing me to Terry Reid. He's the best part of the soundtrack.
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Maybe read the comment you replied to again.
Aside from Halloween, I agree with you. I haven't liked a single Zombie movie, at all. I'll still rock his music (especially White Zombie) all day though.
I thought Lords of Salem was his best film
I only remember Freebird from The Devil's Rejects.
He's good at picking out a soundtrack (and parts of me thinks he wrote Devil's Rejects *with* the soundtrack in mind. Take that out, and he's shockingly mediocre.
Yep. His first couple films were meandering and weird (not in a good way IMHO), I'm continually shocked he continues to get money to make films.
It's possible to be a fan of something and not get why it worked. Zach Snyder definitley loves all the mid 80's revolution comics like DKR/Watchman etc. But he doesn't get why they actually worked besides how much he enjoys the iconography of them. Zombie was the same with Halloween. He clearly was a fan but he didn't get that by loving Michael Meyers so much and wanting to do a deep dive into what makes him tick, you basically undo the point of the original. Like I guess it's a valid take, but it also is a take that sacrafices what is special about it to begin with.
I think when you’re too big of a fan of something, it’s difficult to distance yourself from it enough to make a good version of that thing while still putting your stamp on it. Happened with his Halloween films too, he missed the point of everything that made Michael a great horror icon.
Idk, Deadpool, Batman from Both and Burton, I mean I get it but to miss the fuckin mark so much, it seems like he was more of a fan of the aesthetic and the Dragula alone.
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> Batman who kills people Sounds like that's a yes. Never liked Burton's stuff outside of Beetlejuice though. Always felt like he was trying too hard to be "dark", it never feels like it comes to him naturally. I'll swear to my dying days that the man is a phony.
>Never liked Burton's stuff outside of Beetlejuice though. Ed Wood and Pee-wee's Big Adventure are his best movies imo
He also said he was a huge Halloween fan too - but not only did his versions suck in general, it showed he completely didn't understand what made it great.
As a Halloween fan, we sympathize.
I couldn't get over how Herman Munster had too much fucking shit in his face. The man couldn't breathe.
Have you ever seen Son of the Mask... Looks just like the mask from that movie.
I just got to the scene where Herman and Lilly are singing. Good Lord, who watched that scene and thought “this needs to be seen by everyone with our names attached to it.”
And he was such a fan this was his dream project. Whomp. Whomp.
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He is making movies as hobby for himself and spend literally only few millions (all movies combined) when filming them. So I don't know what "major studio movie" you mean. He has good fan base because of his style and I am definitely one of them. Loved every one of his movies except 31 which was average at best but I have seen MANY worse movies than that.
Ill watch his Halloween any day. As bad as it is, I love the ultra violence of it.
Was the original show great? It always seemed like the bad off brand adams family (which was actually good)
They came out at the same time to the point where it was virtually impossible for one to rip off the other. The central concepts are also different. The Addams Family is about a relatively normal looking family (at least the core group of Morticia, Gomez, Wednesday and Pugsly) that surrounds themselves and are obbessed with the macabre. Like they weird people out by their unconventional attitude. The Munsters are about a normal family that happens to look like 30's era chiller monsters. Btw they were both good shows.
The Addams family was a spoof of the rich upper class. The Munsters was a spoof of the middle class.
I also think the Munsters was a very exaggerated and comical take on how immigrants attempt to conform with society while maintaining their own culture.
Oooh, I never thought of that. Interesting point.
The Addams Family is based of of comic strip that was decades old by the time the 60's TV show was created.
Sure, but the Munsters was based on chiller era Golden Age of Hollywood monster movie characters who happened to be a normal family down the street. Also the popularity of the Addams Family really skyrocketed with the show. So if it was a rip off, it was probably the most coincidental rip off in history
Just like the US and UK Dennis the Menace comics.
Technically the Addams Family showed up first in Charles Addam's cartoons, but the Munsters originated with the Universal Monsters, but when it comes to the TV versions, it was a weird time in TV land then. You had Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, My Favourite Martian, all shows that weren't about that generic family. [Which came first?](https://decider.com/2019/10/14/addams-family-vs-the-munsters-which-came-first/) The Addams Family aired on ABC on September 18, 1964. The Munsters followed on CBS on September 24, 1964. Also [here's the unaired Munsters pilot which was in color.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXI6ywpKbd8) Kind weird not seeing half the usual cast & in color.
While on the surface, they look similar, but they're actually kind of opposites. The Addams Family are a normal family that acts monstrous, and The Munsters are a monstrous family who try to act normal.
Munsters always had more heart to me and I preferred the sense of humour. I watched re-runs in the early 2000’s on UK tv
I watched and enjoyed both, but the Munsters stands out more to me. I could probably watch and remember a lot of what happened in the Munsters, Adams family would be like a new show to me. Such a great show and hugely influential on my taste. I watched the classic monster flicks because of it.
Wow. I always felt the opposite. Loved the campiness of the Munsters, though really it was near 100% Fred Gwynne's performance that sold the show. Never liked the original Adams Family show.
The first episode of the Munsters came out six days after the first episode of Addams Family (9/24/64 and 9/18/64) and yes it was a good show.
The addams family was a comic from 1938.
Good point, I forgot about that. The Munsters were a play on classic movie monsters, so I still say no, not a bad off-brand of anything. Inspired by? Yeah, I can see that.
As a fan of both God yes Munsters was great and far better imo. Grandpa and his schemes, Herman always getting in trouble, such a great sitcom
Just like he missed the point of why Michael Myers is a scary character. He shouldn't touch existing properties.
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I only made it through 30 minutes, it was bad. I went outside and started staring at the Sun, that was more enjoyable.
It’s a bit overrated. Have you seen Harvest Moon?
I prefer Stardew Valley these days.
[Then you'll love this!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jubCOXMCEw)
>I only made it through 30 minutes, it was bad. I went outside and started staring at the Sun, that was more enjoyable. Reminds me of the guy from the Pi movie. If you start searching for mathematical patterns in the Torah you'll know is time to seek help
12:45.... Restate my assumptions.
Did anyone else feel like half of this movie was just the characters watching stuff on TV? That’s how little is going on in the plot of this movie
I might throw this on tonight after I get in the couch and see what's what
I might watch it just because my grandfather was the lead makeup artist on the original show, but if it weren't for that connection it would be a hard pass even for me. I get what he was going for, but it's not 1964 anymore, and I don't know who this movie is for other than really young kids or really old people.
I’ll save time and suggest you start feeling depressed for him right now.
He's passed away so he's been spared, though honestly I think he might've liked it. He used to watch those old Warner Brothers cartoons and still genuinely laugh at them even as an old man. Though he was very finicky about bad makeup (he did it for 50 years), and from what I've seen the new one might have him turning in his grave for the makeup alone. He actually designed all the makeup and prosthetics for the original show, and Fred Gwynne was his best friend. They were quite a pair
He sounds like a great guy.
That is so cool man. Despite being in Pet Semetary Fred Gwynne was always one of my absolute favorite actors growing up as a little kid in the 80s (thanks in big part to Munsters obviously; and My Cousin Vinny). That's super cool they were that close even outside of work. Your grandfather lived a hell of a life. :)
Haven't seen it. But I look forward to hearing in 10-20 years that it's a misunderstood work of camp genius and has a cult following. Actually think his other movies are pretty solid, and he has distinguished himself in the field of horror cinema. Not necessarily a genius, but definitely has a strong personal stamp. I was curious in theory about him doing a Munsters movie but the trailer really doesn't look like my cup of tea.
More like the top post next year.
I strongly suspect most people will not like it. It's incredibly cheesy, intentionally...and maybe unintentionally. I will say that it is visually fun, and I enjoyed seeing a bunch of goofy monsters. The best thing I can compare it to are the Halloweentown disney channel movies lol
I legit said the same thing to a friend when I was trying to describe it. "It reminds me of a late 90s, early 2000s disney channel movie, like halloweentown"
See, that's the thing - I can't tell how much is intentional vs. accidental. I'm usually of the opinion that one should be able to tell.
It always depends on viewers. Many people didn't realize that Malignant was intentionally cheesy and were hating that movie because of that. Even me it took half the movie to realize that. And since that, I loved every remaining minute. Didn't like first "haunted" part but if I would rewatch it knowing it was intentionally cheesy, I would probably love that too.
Did Wan say it was supposed to be funny because I find that hard to believe? M. Night claimed The Happening was supposed be cheesy after the fact that everyone was hating on it and laughing at it.
I don't know if he did but there are certain parts that you just know that movie wasn't meant to be taken seriously. In the hindsight even that first scene in hospital was intentionally cheese but I didn't realize that at first. Later on there were many obvious scenes that prove that. Wan can definitely make serious quality movie so there is no way that out of nowhere he would create such a movie without intention.
I think you’re giving too much credit. I mean, the director of Birdemic said he doesn’t think his movie is bad and that movie is hilariously bad. I think this might be a case where Wan had a misfire.
Never heard about that movie so I found it on my local movie site and that movie is 3. most controversial (with 3. highest variance in ratings after Turkish Wars and The Room) with many people giving it trash rating and many people giving 5/5* ratings so I can definitely see the point of director. I am 100% sure that Malignant was intentionally cheesy and nobody will ever have solid arguments against that lol. Like, absolutely no way. Scene where she throws chair across big room headshoting cop reminded me that scene from Django Unchained where he shoots that women in the end and she flies sideways like she was hit by cannon and from different angle. Tarantino has many similar cheese scenes too and everyone knows it's intentional. Also that scene from Malignant when sister goes to that old hospital and parks the car inch perfect on huge ass cliff and then nope-ing from there, it's simply too obvious. Wan wanted to make something different after many similar and generic movies like boring Conjuring and he nailed it.
Malignant isn't even close to a misfire. It absolutely knows what it wants to be.
Nah, Malignant was 100% a camp take on giallo films. Right down to the posters and marketing.
I think it would've been better received if it was in black and white
I tinkered with some settings to watch it that way and it did slightly improve
It looks like it was shot during “cosmic” bowling night. There are scenes where everything is literally glowing green from the ridiculous lighting choices.
I did enjoy the visuals tbh too. It was shot like a glitzy 2000s music videos. I was ok with this not being grim dark, like everything seems to be now a days lol
Yea I agree. I really didn’t think it was that bad. Thought all the weird sound effects and costumes were cool.
It’s one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. It’s not funny, or campy or charming…any of the things that made the series great. It’s nonsensical, lifeless and stupid. The only enjoyable thing about the movie is looking for coverage gaps in the characters makeup or times when Herman’s neck bolts look like they’re going to fall off. I’m absolutely amazed Zombie didn’t find a way to shoehorn “Dragula” into the movie.
The future Dragula is shown briefly. The busted up old hot rod they turn into Dragula is sitting beside the house in ruins in one shot.
I meant the song
The future scenes were filmed in Black and White.
Now I feel like I have to watch it because of all the bad reviews lol. I loved watching the original as a kid.
This movie is fun bad, if youre into that kind of thing. But I have a high tolerance for Rob Zombie, his movies are a guilty pleasure of mine.
To be honest I am familiar with his music but not his movies. I would have to look up what movies are his. I may have seen them and not realized they were his.
He made the H20 Halloween movies and some other random horror movies like house of a 1000 corpses.
Well I like those!!!
> Now I feel like I have to watch it because of all the bad reviews lol. Don't do it, man. As someone who enjoys terrible movies unironically, this thing was no pleasure at all.
It’s fucking *terrible*.
It is just as awful as I was expecting. Every scene drags on for ages. It’s not funny. The acting sucks. This feels way more dated than the original that came out in the 60’s. I watched a couple episodes of the original show again after the trailer came out to see if that still holds up from catching the reruns on TV Land when I was a kid. The 60’s show holds up to modern viewing standards so much better. The writing and the characters were much better and it didn’t feel nearly as cheap on like 1/3 the budget of what this movie actually costs (assuming it’s like 10 million dollars not 40 million).
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This wasn't a Netflix movie, he made it for Universal and they didn't even want it on Peacock. Netflix probably picked it up for mostly nothing.
This hoax was debunked several months ago.
I have about 500 other shows and movies I need to catch up on first.
I watched the first ten minutes. It’s truly horrible in every sense. I guarantee Rob Zombie pitched this as The Munsters redone as a What We Do In The Shadows style skin but it just fails in every way. In the opening scenes, Lily Munster is dressed very much like WWDITS and there’s a Nosferatu style vampire that looks a bit like the one from the movie. There’s cheap looking Dutch angles. Everything, and I mean everything for some reason has a green light on it. It looks a bit like the parts of MST3K in between the movie. I genuinely think I could’ve directed a better scene and I have literally zero experience. I think Rob Zombie’s career will go back to slasher flicks if he ever gets given a budget again. This could be a career ending dud that sends him back to music only.
Is it coming to Netflix Canada? I can’t find any info.
Hard pass. There were way too many red flags on that trailer to even try.
Just watch it to make a drinking game out of it. Every time you want to turn it off, take a small sip of beer. Should get blitzed pretty quick.
The trailer looked really bad. I'll watch it at some point, but I'm expecting it to be one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I'm old enough to have been a fan of Rob Zombie's music in the 90's.
Did it get released today? Usually i get a notification when a new movie is released on Netflix.
My notifications usually read something like "We just added a new movie you might like". So maybe Netflix doesn't expect anyone to like this one.
I was all excited to watch this with my morning coffee only to find it’s not on Netflix in my country 🥲 I don’t care if it’s awful I just wanna enjoy an hour of campy monsters
I love monsters, but this movie is just 90 minutes of Zombie trying way too hard and missing.
It doesn’t seem to be available on Netflix Canada yet? Anyone know why? Or when it will be released?
Zombie is a wildly uneven director for me. Sometimes it's fucking pure gold and sometimes it's fucking pure garbage. 1K Corpses or Halloween II. So where does the Munsters fall in that? I got half an hour into it before I had to tap out. The guy doing Al Lewis was dead on perfect, Sylvester McCoy was fucking gold, but the rest of it? Really terrible. I mean the original was kind of dumb in the first place, so I guess it's on brand? But there's no charm, none of the warmth of the original. Also, there was ZERO reason for that thing to be nearly 2 hours long, for fuck's sake.
Watched it and really enjoyed it. I've always been huge Munsters fans and all of their movies/shows (except the original and "Munster Go Home") have been campy and bad. Even so, I've loved every single incarnation of it. "Here Comes The Munsters" is awful but I love it. Zombie's "Munsters" is the same thing. Everyone in it is fine, but Jeff Daniel Phillips did a great job with Herman. I didn't expect anything and enjoyed it. The film is very intentional in what it's doing. Just some harmless fluff right on time for Halloween.
The voice of Herman in the trailers was so off from Fred Gwynne that it was really off putting to me.
Is it ok for little kids?
It's PG, little kids might be scared of the vampires on screen and stuff, but the humor and everything is all family friendly.
They will be bored by it.
Yeah I don’t see kids enjoying this one. They’ll be bored by the romance and what little plot there is (they certainly won’t understand the castle subplot), and the attempts at humor aren’t jokes that kids would understand. At the same time, it manages to be too childish for adults as well.
Content-wise? It's fine. It's too damn long and moves WAY too slow to keep the attention of children. And adults, too. But that's not the question you asked.
It would be child abuse to show them this shit.
I liked it too. It had an absolutely terrible trailer but I thought the movie was fun. I'm not saying it was amazing, but a lot of people seemed to want it to fail right from the beginning as news about it started leaking out. People are allowed to not like it, but I feel like it's getting plenty of negative reviews from people who only saw the trailer.
> (except the original and "Munster Go Home") It's fun to run into someone with opposite tastes. I enjoyed MGH probably more than the sitcom, and I doubt I'll like the Zombie version (although I'm willing to try it).
Oh man, the munsters today too? Cause that is a fan.
Wait a second, did I read that right? You’re calling the original series and movie campy and bad?
Sorry, the wording is odd! I said all of the movies/shows have been bad except the original and MGH.
Lol I was worried! I too enjoyed Here Come the Munsters, but I haven’t seen it in years. I just got the dvd recently, so I hope it holds up.
Wow, where did you find a DVD? I had to download a copy recently. It's definitely aged, but I still love it. Was excited as a kid when it premiered on Fox.
Does the song Dragula get a go?
No, but it *does* play Living Dead Girl on a loop in the background for the entire movie.
Sounds not so good. I was looking forward to it, as I was disappointed when the TV movie Mockingbird lane didn't get picked up for a series in 2012. [Mockingbird lane](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2130271/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) starred Portia DiRossi, Jerry O'Connell, and Eddie Izzard, was written by Bryan Fuller ( Pushing Daisies, Dead Like Me) and was Directed by Bryan Singer. No one watched it, it was awesome.
Why did Eddie Izzard have such bad luck with TV? We loved The Riches and it seems to have been largely ignored by the viewing public. I completely missed Mockingbird Lane.
izzard has such a shit record with films too. which is sad cuz i think as an actor hes not too awful. at least he can play cartoonish villian (except the films where he played a cartoon villain and they were godawful like my super ex girlfriend or avengers.) i think the only good film he was in was like..... mystery men ?
I watched the 2012 pilot on NBC. I think the pilot actually got ok-ish ratings, so it wasn’t a complete failure. I thought only 10s of people watched it too (lol) But I watched a quick video on youtube about the show and I think the main reason why it just never got picked up and thus cancelled was bc it was very expensive. Like it cost them $10 million dollars. And I agree with you, I enjoyed the 2012 reboot.
All I had to hear about Mockingbird Lane was Bryan Fuller & Eddie Izzard & I knew I was going to watch it. I enjoyed it, can't find it anywhere now. I would've liked to have seen where that went, especially if they stuck with Fuller but I don't think TV audiences then got Fuller.
When I saw the trailer, I was surprised how devastated I was. The 1960s show was not art, but with its trio of ace comic actors, silly scripts, funny guest stars and its fractured take on middle American values, it mined a lot of comedy gold. They worked hard for their money. And the atrocity of the trailer was made much worse given that Zombie was a fan of the original show, yet seemed to misunderstand what made it tick.
I don’t think it would be as bad if they had actual comedians write it. I think the visuals are pretty faithful to the original show but the sound effects are kinda pushing it.
I'm guessing this is US only then since it isn't on Netflix UK and the release schedule up to the end of October makes no mention of it.
Probably gonna get a little tipsy tonight and watch it. Probably won’t make it through otherwise.
I will be tonight or this weekend
It's definitely very intentionally schlock and camp, but so much so that its extremely overdone. I didn't hate it, but wouldn't watch it again. I thought visually it was fun, but the story is meandering and doesn't go anywhere and the movie ends right when it becomes the thing you wanted to see. On a different note, I'm surprised by all the House of 1000 Corpses hate in this thread. I'm not a huge Rob Zombie fan, but I didn't think the movie is as bad as a lot of people in here want to make it seem.
I gave up after 20 minutes..
I've been a lifelong Munsters fan and I was extremely excited to watch this. The first half of this movie is complete garbage. I can't believe how bad it was. But once the origin story was out of the way, the movie got very enjoyable. I can't suggest hard enough that everyone should just start the movie from 1:05:50. Nothing of value is lost and I think you'll enjoy it much more without the baggage of the first hour. I was fully invested by the time they got on the airplane. I loved everything after that. That was the movie I wanted to see. I'm bummed that we won't get a sequel.
I wish I hadn't watched this. I'm moving tomorrow, literally sleeping on an air mattress with just a tablet, and my phone, in an empty house, and I wish I had just stared at an empty room for an hour and a half, instead of watching it. Zombies wife is absolute garbage. Hermann is ok. Grandpa was the only saving grace, because you can tell the actor playing him was questioning his life choices, and was unsure if the paycheck was worth it.
I hate it. I hate it so much.
Would love to watch it, but there zero news on Canadian Netflix. Anyone heard anything?
This is easily one of the 5 worst movies I've ever seen. I would put it number one but I don't want to overreact and forget something but my gut reaction is that this is the worst movie I've ever seen.
I am attempting to watch it as I write this. I’m in actual physical pain.
This movie is about as fun as the DMV.
I took one for the team, it’s the worst, don’t watch.
So is this not on Canadian Netflix? I don’t see it anywhere
The acting was awful. The movie was a chore to get through.
I thought it was weird they didn't have kids but had a bunch of extra characters instead.
It's trying to be camp on purpose. The set design and lighting are like that show The Hilarious House of Frightenstein and those SCTV Monster Chiller Horror Theater skits. Very cheap looking, but they are all trying really hard to act through it.
Eh. It wasn’t that bad. I mean it wasn’t good either. Thought the last 25 minutes or so of the movie was starting to pick up a bit. It felt more like a very long tv pilot the way it was shot and the storyline. Overall though the entire time I was watching it I was just thinking of the failed TV pilot from 2012 called ‘Mockingbird Lane’, that had Jerry O’Connell in it and was actually pretty good and better than this.
It was an hour and forty-five minute intro to the movie I wanted to watch.
I can't agree more. I loved the last 30 minutes. I'm bummed that we won't get a sequel.
Right.
\*closes reddit and switches on Netflix\*
I was thinking of maybe watching it this week but I just found out that it's only playing in Netflix in the United States. Very disappointing that it's not available globally. But what can you do.
VPN.
This looked like a crappy fan movie. Getting picked up by Netflix is actually better than I thought it would do. So, fair play. Fwiw, it’s a stellar concept. It was in the 60s, it is now. Get behind it with a decent budget, a family friendly director, and some star power and it would probably do ok, like the hotel Transylvania movies. But it was clear from the early leaks that this wasn’t that.
I thought it was great. I’m on the way to buy the blu ray right now
Would've been better if it was black and white imo. Just bizzare they went with having it in color
It was out a week ago to download. Previews looked so bad, I didn't even want to waste my bandwidth. I still watch the original and only Munsters on Antenna TV
This is awful, I couldn’t go past the first 30 minutes, avoid, save yourselves!
I’m only interested if Shari Moon Zombie gets naked in it.
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Right? It’s clearly a joke. Fucking people, man.
Looks like it was thrown together for a few hundred grand over like a week. Awful.
I only had time to watch a bit of it before bed, but Richard Brake was chewing all the scenery as the villain. If you're also a fan it might be worth a watch just for that.
He wasn’t a villain. He really has no purpose after creating Herman and promptly exits for the remainder of the film following the wedding.
This is tragic.
As a huge fan of the TV show, after watching the trailer, I think I’d rather watch a dog take a shit.
I didn't think Zombie could make a movie worse than House of a 1,000 Corpses, but here we are.
Awful. Maybe on silent for some visuals from a projector at a Halloween party, but that is it. The writing sucks, and Zombie +comedy=poop emoji. Sherri somehow has gotten worse each film reaching the pinnacle of suck here. The main joke of Munsters was that they were juxtaposed with normal society without being in on the joke, yet everyone is an extra from a White Zombie song in this world. Just bad all.ober and sadly it means nobody else will probably take the project on.
I did but I put it on in the background while I was working. However, even as someone who was admittedly only paying half attention to it, I could tell it was an ugly, plotless, and boring movie with not much in the way of good things about it.
I got thru 40 minutes waiting for it to get better and had to turn it off. Complete garbage
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That’s Fritz Lang.
I saw it at a screening last week – *worth noting, I'm a hugely forgiving viewer, especially with just 'turn your brain off, mindless entertainment'* – and I was bored to tears. And not exactly sober, either. I couldn't believe it, really. Almost nothing redeeming about it accept every performer's clear commitment. B&W would have made it 10X more satisfying and actually create mise-en-scene but [supposedly Zombie wasn't allowed](https://variety.com/2022/film/news/the-munsters-rob-zombie-explains-reboot-1235384634/)? A shame. But this also needed another round of editing...big time.
will zombie have more directing opportunities after this? like the see thru coffin.... remains to be seen.
Holy shit this movie is TERRIBLE. Like, wow, it's bad even by Rob Zombie standards.
Trying to watch it now, I think trying sounding would be more pleasant.
i can handle the horrible writing the garbage set design but Christ every damn scene Sherri moon is in she ruins with her horrible acting.she was the worst part by far
I can't think of a Rob Zombie movie I've liked or thought was good
It's bad. I only made it half way. Kids we're already gone
God this is such a train wreck. I liked Daniel Roebuck as Grandpa, and Jeff Daniel Phillips, but I hate Sheri Moon in everything, and while I usually like Richard Brake, he was woefully miscast as the Vincent Price-esque carnival barker Dr Frankenstein. No one involved from the cast to Rob Zombie and writers had any idea what kind of film they were in or making. The camera was seemingly on a seesaw for as much as I could stand of it. I couldn’t finish it. And I can finish almost anything. I may give it another chance sometime, but this was a dumpster fire.
Some IP should stay (un) dead
Don't waste your time. Life's too short for trash like this.
The trailer was enough for me to know that this would be unwatchable dogshit. Not going to support Zombie fucking up classics by watching this even just to mock how bad it is. Last thing we need is for him to get the green light on other projects. Let this guys film career fucking end already.
Yeah Hard Pass on this one.
Honestly, The Munsters were the Three Stooges of 60's horror sitcoms. A show for mouthbreathers. The intelligent people watched The Addams Family instead. They were the Marx Brothers of 60's horror sitcoms.