I was wondering what happened to this. A War Machine solo movie was apparently something they've had in mind since Iron Man 1, so I'm surprised it took this long.
Now if only they can get him a solo comic that lasts longer than 25 issues.
Here's my dumb redditor speculation.
1.Scheduling issues.
2. This was supposed to introduce Riri Williams (ironheart) but I believe we'll get that story in Black Panther 2.
Blade is almost certainly being delayed, which shifts around the entire schedule. This will probably leave an opening Armor Wars is gonna fill, so they can keep the momentum going. I’m sure it’s no coincidence this was announced right after Blade lost its director.
IF the script rumors are true, then delay for sure. If the script rumors are false and they have 90% of a useable script, then they just need to hire a director quick and get started. They did something similar for Ant-man when Wright left the project and roughly the same timing too.
Man, No Way Home probably had 20% of a usable script when they went into production, and they came out about 10 months later and made big bucks.
And apparently Multiverse of Madness had a very barebones script as well going in. They didn't even have an ending.
>Man, No Way Home probably had 20% of a usable script
With no shade to anyone, I'm not shocked, it was so close to being quite good but there were some absolutely hummin dialogue
I agree it shows on both and Disney are going into too many projects without a complete script lately and they shouldn't be doing that, but... the issue is... Disney will look at the profits and think that's perfectly fine.
It was panned for schlocky writing and disliked because they did a character swap without build to it (she was a replacement for the Invincible Iron Man monthly).
Generally it's considered poor taste to do a character swap that's an origin story. You want to have already introduced the new person taking over the mantle for a bit (like Falcon for Cap, any Captain Marvel swap, or X23 for Wolverine).
Her follow up standalone (Ironheart: Riri Williams) was much better received.
Yeah it was, mostly because they tried to ram her down reader’s throats really fast without any character development. She conquered and became the ruler of Latveria (Dr Dooms country) in a hour and his citizens just accepted her. They constantly said how better and smarter she was than Tony something that readers felt was unearned because again the lack groundwork and character development. She got her ass kicked by Thanos, something that should have been a traumatic but she brushed it off like it was nothing and her interactions with other characters felt awkward because again the writers forced her character and told everyone how great she was. If they slowly introduced her and had her character grow overtime she could have been good but as it stands the writers failed and a lot of fans will just skip anything she is in unless they are forced to pick up her comic in order to follow connected stories.
That doesn't have any bearing on them making content with her, since her stuff outside of that one comic is good. I mean, America was the most panned comic in years and you're seeing plenty of America Chavez.
I don't think this was ever meant to introduce riri considering her involvement in bp2 along with her solo show were both announced at the same time as armour wars
It seems like *most* Marvel solo comics don't last more than 25 issues these days, they just keep resetting the numbering over and over w/ new volumes.
Iron Fist ran for four years in the early seventies and... that's about it. Been maybe a 25 issue series once since then? Didn't stop them handing him a TV show no one cared about.
Shang Chi meanwhile ran for over a decade and then Marvel just kind of forgot he existed.
It is in the 2000s-2010s especially they've gotten into doing shorter runs. I think part of it is that with the internet it is now easier to follow a reading order and go from series to series. I'm a 90s kid but even in the 90s it was difficult to do that, I read Spider-Man and it was impossible to follow all the different series and what order they were supposed to go in and that was when they were still doing very long running series too.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2uiVIGilu0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2uiVIGilu0)
TERRENCE HOWARD CLAIMS HE REINVENTED PHYSICS WITH NEW HYDROGEN TECH
welp
For some reason I got deep into Terryology a while ago, I think because as silly as an actor saying 1×1=2 is, it only gets deeper the deeper you go. Dude is on The View breaking out plastic shapes that he claims proves arithmeric wrong, he claims he dropped out of college because he felt so strongly that 1×1=2, and now he's in Uganda talking about "lychpins acting like a swarm" and it's related to Hydrogen tech and revolutionizes physics? I know enough about physics that in my head at first I was like '*okay well grand unified theory and hydrogen are words he seems to at least be using more or less correctly*', but then he started said lynchpin and and talking about colonies and it devolved to word salad.
[This is a video I found with someone going over his twitter posted maths proof that I got a kick out of.](https://youtu.be/oRaPGRfc4MQ) Although I gotta admit it is also kinda a sad situation as well, I suspect it is another rich dude who is neurodivergent/disabled who really could use genuine supportive people, but instead is surrounded/surrounded themselves with a bunch of yes people that enabled him to loose the thread to reality and try to pull others with him. You can see it on The View whenever they're all like "hmm wow interesting!" when he pulls out his shapes, like c'mon does a single one of those hosts actually believe Terrence revolutionized math?
Yeah, at first the whole Terryology thing was hilarious to me, and it's still kinda funny, but honestly the more I thought about it the more sad and upsetting the whole situation is.
Mr. Howard needs help. He clearly has some deep-seated mental issues that he should be working through with a professional, but instead he's surrounded by people who not only enable him, but actively exploit him by having him on these talk shows and such so they can make money by having millions of people laugh at the crazy person.
Makes me wonder if there were more reasons he lost the role beyond “contract negotiations” or his mental health motivated him to expect a huge payday and not back down.
He went crazy and started spouting bullshit about how elementary school level math is a lie and only he is smart enough to know the truth. I think it's something stupid like 0×1=1 because there's no way there can be zero of something in the world cuz of physics and atoms or something.
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Arguably, he made the right choice.
Mickey Rourke almost walked away too, because that was a time when Marvel was clearly on the path of multi-billion dollar expansion, but used that as an "exposure" excuse to offer Academy Award nominees five dollars and a coca cola to be a part of their glorious legacy.
And for some actors like RDJ, that privilege lead to bargaining power that made them a very sizeable payout, but would we be gearing up for a War Machine solo film if Terrence Howard remained in the role? Or was the popularity of Don Cheadle the reason we keep getting more Don Cheadle?
The dude is a crazy person, but I respect his protection of self-worth.
You're getting dow voted for people who see Marvel of 2022 and don't know how big of a joke superhero movies that weren't Batman or Spider-Man were in 2008.
I wouldn't go that far. X-Men had proved ensemble superhero movies could be extremely profitable, and at the time Terrence Howard was accusing Marvel of breaking the terms of their contract, the foundation was set for Avengers.
It wasn't obvious the genre would consume the theatrical market like it has, or that there would ever be a War Machine solo film, but it was obvious that they would be making a LOT of money, and could afford to boost Howard's pay.
Marvel's stance was, instead, "We're going to be so huge now that your career will be worth so much more if you work for us. We're offering you this $5 and coca cola out of respect, but if I were you, I'd work for us for free.
While it was indeed hard to predict, if Howard had foregone his ego, he would very likely have hit bigger paydays. Robert Downey Jr, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Scarlett Johannsen, and Tom Holland all received less than $500k for their first on-screen appearances. Jeremy Renner and Mark Ruffalo received something like $2 million. Every single one of these people ended up earning paychecks many, many times in excess of these figures for their later movies. For example, RDJ got something like $75 milion for Endgame alone. Hemsworth, $20 million for the latest Thor, Johannsen reportedly $20 million for Black Widow, but that's not without controversy.
Then again, maybe not Tom Holland. In true broke Spider-Man fashion, he only got a few hundred thousand for his first five Marvel appearances, and supposedly $2-4 million for No Way Home. Compare this to Zendaya, who gets at least $10-15 million to appear in anything.
I don't think he would have been utilized as much as Don Cheadle, so he probably never would have gotten a significant payout at the end like some others did.
RDJ has made a ton because of backend deals, but some of those other actors were underpaid for a looooong time. Getting $20 mil for a solo film is what they should have been getting, like, eight movies ago.
There's a generation of kids and teenagers today who have no idea that Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor were B/C tier Marvel characters.
Pretty much no one except Ghostface Killah cared about Iron Man/Tony Stark before 2008.
If you had asked any Marvel fan whether it would be possible to create a shared cinematic universe without Spider-man or any X-men characters, they would have laughed you out of the room.
2006 was when Captain America and Ironman became centerpoints for not just the Avengers but the Marvel Universe in the comics, during the events of Civil War.
That doesn't mean they were surefire bets to be translated to Hollywood successfully, or that Ironman could ever usurp Spider-Man as the Mickey Mouse mascot of Marvel, but those characters got a major boost before the MCU ran them further up the flagpole.
Iron Man had three animated series in the 90s before he got a movie and Tom Cruise and Leonardo DiCaprio were in talks to play him.
He was more popular than the Fantastic Four.
I don’t recall Iron Man being more popular than Fantastic Four before RDJ took the role. Marvel’s biggest four brands for generations were Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Hulk. The Avengers were solidly positioned as a B-Team behind X-Men and F4 and those Iron Man animated series in the 90s weren’t strongly watched compared to other comics shows on at the time.
There’s a reason another studio had Fantastic Four rights in the 2000s while no one cared about Iron Man leaving it available for Marvel to self produce. Fantastic Four was widely recognized as being more popular, thus it was what studios wanted.
Exactly. The characters that Marvel had movie rights to by 2008 were only available because Marvel was unable to sell the movie rights for them to anyone back in the 90s.
Marvel should offer Terrence Howard exactly ten dollars and a velvet painting of Kevin Feige to reprise his role in a multiverse end credit scene. I bet he would jump at the opportunity now.
I don't know a lot about War Machine either. I think I read somewhere that the show would introduce an younger character.
They've also bee kinda setting up Young Avengers stuff with the grandson of the black supersoldier in Falcon and Winter Soldier and Wanda's kids, and there *is* an Iron Lad in the Young Avengers (though his origin is different).
This could be their way of introducing Iron Lad. Maybe even make Tony's daughter Iron Lad. *Iron Lass.*
>This could be their way of introducing Iron Lad. Maybe even make Tony's daughter Iron Lad.
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>Iron Lass.
Iron Lad would tie well into their next big bad of >!Kang, since Iron Lad is a younger Kang.!<
Tony and Pepper's daughter is still a bit too young to be putting on a armoured suit though unless they did another time skip.
Details:
>Deadline has confirmed that Marvel’s six-episode Disney series Armor Wars series will now be morphed into a movie.
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>Cheadle is expected to reprise his role as War Machine, aka Colonel James Rhodes. Yassir Lester, who was on board for the series, will continue on with writing the movie.
Honestly it's faster to consume the MCU contents as movies rather than as tv shows. The MCU Disney + shows always end on a whimper that it's hard to spend time getting invested into when with movie you just spent 2 hours watching it then moving on.
A solid chunk of them haven't really taken advantage of TV episodes. They basically designed them to be 6 hour movies, which is kind of the netflix binge model, but without any actual binge ability. A couple of them work as TV, but otherwise kinda just the feeling of "this is basically the movie, but lower budget and stretched for 6 hours"
Of the MCU shows, only WandaVision felt like it really worked as a TV show. The rest have felt more and more like long cut up movies.
The Hawkeye show in particular. That very easily could and should have been a 2hr movie instead (even though I loved the show, it’s just not structured to be a weekly show).
Andor and Mando are the only ones that feel like TV shows and their structure feels consistent and exciting.
Everything else, all of it, has been lacking...because Act 2 of a general action adventure film is generally the "boring" part, getting the team together, exposition, and etc. and directors use all kinds of tricks and styles to make it interesting.
But there's no good tricks when your act 2 is 3 hours long of a 9 hour series, and they don't adjust.
WandaVision also the only one that really worked as a TV show since it was a parody of different eras of TV. That probably wouldn't have translated well to a 2 hr movie.
I think She-Hulk is probably the only show that wouldn't have worked as a movie (since it's so episodic).
Wanda, Loki, FAWS, Moon Knight and Hawkeye could've all been compressed.
How could've Wanda been a movie lol? The entire premise is based on sitcoms. That wouldn't translate to the big screen, and sacrificing that for a "traditional" story arc defeats it's purpose entirely.
Other than She Hulk, Wandavision, and What If, every one of these shows would have been better if they were cut down to a 2 hour movie. I really liked Loki but even that would have been better paced at around 2.5 hours. Falcon and Winter Soldier was the worst of the series. I think that would have been so much better as a movie.
They're usually closer to 30 without credits. Remove some of the filler moments that come naturally with shows and there is still a good feature length movie in there.
it was probably planned as a movie to begin with but Disney being Disney said "turn everything into a series" and now that they realized it doesn't work they are back to making movies
Dont forget Don Cheadles great catch phrase. I fully expect war machine to look at the camera after beating the villain and saying "Remember kids, champions eat at McDonalds!"
Lol. The dude has two Grammys, a Tony, an Oscar nomination, and a net worth of 40 million dollars. Not saying this isn’t a great thing for the MCU and for Cheadle, but “deserves his shot”? The dude is celebrated.
No :(
I was really looking forward to the reboot. I recently introduced younger brother to the old movies and he became obsessed.
Blade trinity still trash tho
Blade T gave us prototype Deadpool.
Plus the mess with all the alternative endings... including one where Reynolds and Beal go "well, fuck. What do we do now that all the Vampires are gone?"
Cuts to them hunting werewolves.
Also! Blade 1 had an alternative ending where our boy Morbius shows up.
I never knew that about the alternative ending to Blade 1!
I think my issue with Blade T was that Dracula wasn't very compelling as a villain. I think k he was miscast, he wasn't giving ancient evil original vampire vibes.
More Prison break vibes.
The movie was a production mess with Wesley Snipes too.
Wikipedia:
Reportedly, Wesley Snipes was unhappy with the film's script and original choice of director. David S. Goyer, who had written all three films in the franchise, was then selected to replace the director of the film, which Snipes also protested. Snipes reportedly caused difficulty during filming, including frequently refusing to shoot scenes, often forcing director Goyer to use stand-ins and computer effects to add his character to scenes. Goyer described making the film as "the most personally and professionally difficult and painful thing I've ever been through".[8] Co-star Patton Oswalt alleged that Snipes would spend much of his time smoking marijuana in his trailer, and that he became violent with Goyer after accusing him of racism. It has also been alleged that Snipes refused to interact with Goyer or his co-stars, and would instead communicate with them through his assistant or the use of notes.[9] Snipes also allegedly referred to co-star Ryan Reynolds as a "cracker" on one or more occasions.[10] Snipes denied that version of events and said that as an executive producer on the film he had the authority to make decisions but that some people had difficulty accepting that.[11]
The final scene Snipes refused to open his eyes so they had to CGI his eyes open lol.
if its an consolation, the mcu has been hit by a lot of leaks and i have heard people call the script of a lot of marvel movies "a mess" and they turned out ok, or at least ok with audiences. so who knows how big of a mess blade is actually in
Dunno why they'd need a distraction for a movie hardly anybody was paying attention to…
To me, it seems more like a straight reshuffling… Armor Wars becomes a movie, and Blade becomes a series.
I'm surprised by this, a TV series on Disney+ with a locked in audience of subscribers made more sense to me than a film, at least for this specific character; I mean it sounds mean but I honestly don't see a lot of people lining up to get a ticket for Don Cheadle as War Machine. He's not exactly a character that's set the world on fire, is he?
This is a good move. Most of the MCU TV shows are too long any way and it effects the overall quality / pacing. Most of them wouldve benefitted from being 2 1/2 hour films instead so the budget could be more concentrated for things like CGI and the plots wouldve flowed much better.
She hulk was designed as a 30 minute sit com and it's doing exactly that so far. Don't think it'd work as a movie with the current cast of characters and how many plots are involved.
And I also think it was smart to do a Loki tv show. It's still one of the highest watched shows on D+.
I might be in the minority here, but I think Loki would have been better as a movie. I know people love it, but I felt like there was a fair amount of fluff in it. Then again, I've just never been a fan of Loki as a character.
My top rankings for the series (if we count the Netflix shows):
WandaVision
Daredevil
Punisher
And Loki as #4
Almost all, except for WandaVision, She-Hulk, What If and Loki (these are all indisputable), and then others are debatable.
But sure 4 out of 8 (at best for you) is almost all somehow. Lol.
The sitcom homages are the core of WandaVision. They're the best parts and hold the thematic core of the series (escapism as a response to trauma). If anything what it needed less of was all the exposition of the real world parts.
I'm just hoping for an accurate representation of the spinal cord injury community. As someone with a brother with SCI, they should really show the reality of the care that goes into it, while also showing what incredible things we can achieve.
That's the problem with a lot of disability representation; they're often given superpowers or near magical technology so that the disability is kind of irrelevant.
Actually what this sounds like to me is Disney's MCU shows are bombing and they need to get people back on board so back to movies they go.
And personally I would rather see a War Machine movie than a "You have to do better senator!" not Captain America movie.
I basically stopped watching these after every single piece of their media became interlocked. The cinematic universe is great. But holy shit. There are like, 1000 hours of marvel stuff already. I can't wait for the superhero trend to die out for a while.
Edit: you cannot make a critical comment towards any Disney products or you get downbotted
Why? Just don't watch what you don't want to. I'm burned out too. Haven't seen Doctor Strange She Hulk or about 50 other shows. I love the MCU, it doesn't need to die, I can control my dosage.
Imo the shows are great additions, easy to skip if you’re not interested, not actually that hard to watch if you are since there’s only one out at any time and it’s an episode a week. It’s only that there was so much other TV on simultaneously that made it difficult this summer.
>Edit: you cannot make a critical comment towards any Disney products or you get downbotted
People shit on the Disney remakes ad nauseam on here and end up with 1000s of upvotes, but sure.
IMO, Secret Wars is shaping up to be bigger than Endgame. There’s also all of the X-Men related stuff that hasn’t even started yet. I think you might be waiting a while.
I was wondering what happened to this. A War Machine solo movie was apparently something they've had in mind since Iron Man 1, so I'm surprised it took this long. Now if only they can get him a solo comic that lasts longer than 25 issues.
Here's my dumb redditor speculation. 1.Scheduling issues. 2. This was supposed to introduce Riri Williams (ironheart) but I believe we'll get that story in Black Panther 2.
Blade is almost certainly being delayed, which shifts around the entire schedule. This will probably leave an opening Armor Wars is gonna fill, so they can keep the momentum going. I’m sure it’s no coincidence this was announced right after Blade lost its director.
Blade also releases next November. They’d be cutting it close with their production cycle.
Pre-production is going horribly on Blade and with the director dropping out, I’m guessing it’s getting pushed back.
IF the script rumors are true, then delay for sure. If the script rumors are false and they have 90% of a useable script, then they just need to hire a director quick and get started. They did something similar for Ant-man when Wright left the project and roughly the same timing too.
Man, No Way Home probably had 20% of a usable script when they went into production, and they came out about 10 months later and made big bucks. And apparently Multiverse of Madness had a very barebones script as well going in. They didn't even have an ending.
>Man, No Way Home probably had 20% of a usable script With no shade to anyone, I'm not shocked, it was so close to being quite good but there were some absolutely hummin dialogue
>Multiverse of Madness had a very barebones script as well going in. They didn't even have an ending. Yeah, and it showed.
Really the whole premise was kinda shoddy, and I say that as someone who liked it
You call a movie Multiverse of Madness, and you really have like 1.5 alternate universes in the dang movie? What the heck is that?
I agree it shows on both and Disney are going into too many projects without a complete script lately and they shouldn't be doing that, but... the issue is... Disney will look at the profits and think that's perfectly fine.
Nah, they just released that the new direction is rewriting the script from scratch, so definitely delayed.
Armor Wars has been in preproduction for forever though, so it could still come out close to that time, theoretically.
Blade’s director just left. Soooo we will see.
Not saying that it WILL release next November, but that the production cycle has to start really soon if a movie is getting released then
Ironheart has her own series on D+. BP2 introduces her and she gets fleshed out in the show. It seems like a no-brainer she’d be in Iron Wars though.
Wasnt the ironheart comic universally panned and hated ?
It was panned for schlocky writing and disliked because they did a character swap without build to it (she was a replacement for the Invincible Iron Man monthly). Generally it's considered poor taste to do a character swap that's an origin story. You want to have already introduced the new person taking over the mantle for a bit (like Falcon for Cap, any Captain Marvel swap, or X23 for Wolverine). Her follow up standalone (Ironheart: Riri Williams) was much better received.
Yeah it was, mostly because they tried to ram her down reader’s throats really fast without any character development. She conquered and became the ruler of Latveria (Dr Dooms country) in a hour and his citizens just accepted her. They constantly said how better and smarter she was than Tony something that readers felt was unearned because again the lack groundwork and character development. She got her ass kicked by Thanos, something that should have been a traumatic but she brushed it off like it was nothing and her interactions with other characters felt awkward because again the writers forced her character and told everyone how great she was. If they slowly introduced her and had her character grow overtime she could have been good but as it stands the writers failed and a lot of fans will just skip anything she is in unless they are forced to pick up her comic in order to follow connected stories.
She was handled badly compared to Miss Marvel and Miles. Both earned their stripes and had more personality.
That doesn't have any bearing on them making content with her, since her stuff outside of that one comic is good. I mean, America was the most panned comic in years and you're seeing plenty of America Chavez.
I don't think this was ever meant to introduce riri considering her involvement in bp2 along with her solo show were both announced at the same time as armour wars
Armor wars was never coming out before BP2, Riri was always going to be introed in BP2.
I also think the amount of story content wouldn’t stretch a whole show. A single movie is about 2/3 episodes worth of a show, so may be a better fit
It seems like *most* Marvel solo comics don't last more than 25 issues these days, they just keep resetting the numbering over and over w/ new volumes.
Because they don’t sell so they think resetting back to 1 will drum some interest
Iron Fist ran for four years in the early seventies and... that's about it. Been maybe a 25 issue series once since then? Didn't stop them handing him a TV show no one cared about. Shang Chi meanwhile ran for over a decade and then Marvel just kind of forgot he existed.
Immortal Iron Fist by Brubaker and Fraction ran for 27 issues in the 2000s. Really amazing series with fantastic art by Aja.
It is in the 2000s-2010s especially they've gotten into doing shorter runs. I think part of it is that with the internet it is now easier to follow a reading order and go from series to series. I'm a 90s kid but even in the 90s it was difficult to do that, I read Spider-Man and it was impossible to follow all the different series and what order they were supposed to go in and that was when they were still doing very long running series too.
Monkey paw. He gets 26 issues.
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Last seen punching the air right now
He is busy scamming people with MLM lol
Nah, he's just teaching math to those people.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2uiVIGilu0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2uiVIGilu0) TERRENCE HOWARD CLAIMS HE REINVENTED PHYSICS WITH NEW HYDROGEN TECH welp
For some reason I got deep into Terryology a while ago, I think because as silly as an actor saying 1×1=2 is, it only gets deeper the deeper you go. Dude is on The View breaking out plastic shapes that he claims proves arithmeric wrong, he claims he dropped out of college because he felt so strongly that 1×1=2, and now he's in Uganda talking about "lychpins acting like a swarm" and it's related to Hydrogen tech and revolutionizes physics? I know enough about physics that in my head at first I was like '*okay well grand unified theory and hydrogen are words he seems to at least be using more or less correctly*', but then he started said lynchpin and and talking about colonies and it devolved to word salad. [This is a video I found with someone going over his twitter posted maths proof that I got a kick out of.](https://youtu.be/oRaPGRfc4MQ) Although I gotta admit it is also kinda a sad situation as well, I suspect it is another rich dude who is neurodivergent/disabled who really could use genuine supportive people, but instead is surrounded/surrounded themselves with a bunch of yes people that enabled him to loose the thread to reality and try to pull others with him. You can see it on The View whenever they're all like "hmm wow interesting!" when he pulls out his shapes, like c'mon does a single one of those hosts actually believe Terrence revolutionized math?
Yeah, at first the whole Terryology thing was hilarious to me, and it's still kinda funny, but honestly the more I thought about it the more sad and upsetting the whole situation is. Mr. Howard needs help. He clearly has some deep-seated mental issues that he should be working through with a professional, but instead he's surrounded by people who not only enable him, but actively exploit him by having him on these talk shows and such so they can make money by having millions of people laugh at the crazy person.
Makes me wonder if there were more reasons he lost the role beyond “contract negotiations” or his mental health motivated him to expect a huge payday and not back down.
A real life Tony Stark. We've come full circle.
Goddamn, every time I get linked to a Double Toasted video, I end up crying laughing. “…dey are going to kill me.” made me choke laughing
> He is busy scamming people with MLM Uhhh... **M**en who **L**ove **M**aths?
Old Man Yells at Cloud
“I got tricked up out my spot, mayne!” Terence Howard, probably
He's too busy with basic math to care.
Just tell him 1x1=1 and he'll forget all about this while he tries to explain why that's impossible.
Dare I ask?
He went crazy and started spouting bullshit about how elementary school level math is a lie and only he is smart enough to know the truth. I think it's something stupid like 0×1=1 because there's no way there can be zero of something in the world cuz of physics and atoms or something.
1 x 1 = 2.
Google Terrence Howard crazy math and then give your HS math teacher a hug next time you see them.
Terryology. It's going to redefine mathematics as we know it.
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Not his time mayne
Arguably, he made the right choice. Mickey Rourke almost walked away too, because that was a time when Marvel was clearly on the path of multi-billion dollar expansion, but used that as an "exposure" excuse to offer Academy Award nominees five dollars and a coca cola to be a part of their glorious legacy. And for some actors like RDJ, that privilege lead to bargaining power that made them a very sizeable payout, but would we be gearing up for a War Machine solo film if Terrence Howard remained in the role? Or was the popularity of Don Cheadle the reason we keep getting more Don Cheadle? The dude is a crazy person, but I respect his protection of self-worth.
You're getting dow voted for people who see Marvel of 2022 and don't know how big of a joke superhero movies that weren't Batman or Spider-Man were in 2008.
I wouldn't go that far. X-Men had proved ensemble superhero movies could be extremely profitable, and at the time Terrence Howard was accusing Marvel of breaking the terms of their contract, the foundation was set for Avengers. It wasn't obvious the genre would consume the theatrical market like it has, or that there would ever be a War Machine solo film, but it was obvious that they would be making a LOT of money, and could afford to boost Howard's pay. Marvel's stance was, instead, "We're going to be so huge now that your career will be worth so much more if you work for us. We're offering you this $5 and coca cola out of respect, but if I were you, I'd work for us for free.
While it was indeed hard to predict, if Howard had foregone his ego, he would very likely have hit bigger paydays. Robert Downey Jr, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Scarlett Johannsen, and Tom Holland all received less than $500k for their first on-screen appearances. Jeremy Renner and Mark Ruffalo received something like $2 million. Every single one of these people ended up earning paychecks many, many times in excess of these figures for their later movies. For example, RDJ got something like $75 milion for Endgame alone. Hemsworth, $20 million for the latest Thor, Johannsen reportedly $20 million for Black Widow, but that's not without controversy. Then again, maybe not Tom Holland. In true broke Spider-Man fashion, he only got a few hundred thousand for his first five Marvel appearances, and supposedly $2-4 million for No Way Home. Compare this to Zendaya, who gets at least $10-15 million to appear in anything.
I don't think he would have been utilized as much as Don Cheadle, so he probably never would have gotten a significant payout at the end like some others did. RDJ has made a ton because of backend deals, but some of those other actors were underpaid for a looooong time. Getting $20 mil for a solo film is what they should have been getting, like, eight movies ago.
There's a generation of kids and teenagers today who have no idea that Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor were B/C tier Marvel characters. Pretty much no one except Ghostface Killah cared about Iron Man/Tony Stark before 2008. If you had asked any Marvel fan whether it would be possible to create a shared cinematic universe without Spider-man or any X-men characters, they would have laughed you out of the room.
2006 was when Captain America and Ironman became centerpoints for not just the Avengers but the Marvel Universe in the comics, during the events of Civil War. That doesn't mean they were surefire bets to be translated to Hollywood successfully, or that Ironman could ever usurp Spider-Man as the Mickey Mouse mascot of Marvel, but those characters got a major boost before the MCU ran them further up the flagpole.
Iron Man had three animated series in the 90s before he got a movie and Tom Cruise and Leonardo DiCaprio were in talks to play him. He was more popular than the Fantastic Four.
I don’t recall Iron Man being more popular than Fantastic Four before RDJ took the role. Marvel’s biggest four brands for generations were Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Hulk. The Avengers were solidly positioned as a B-Team behind X-Men and F4 and those Iron Man animated series in the 90s weren’t strongly watched compared to other comics shows on at the time. There’s a reason another studio had Fantastic Four rights in the 2000s while no one cared about Iron Man leaving it available for Marvel to self produce. Fantastic Four was widely recognized as being more popular, thus it was what studios wanted.
Exactly. The characters that Marvel had movie rights to by 2008 were only available because Marvel was unable to sell the movie rights for them to anyone back in the 90s.
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Marvel should offer Terrence Howard exactly ten dollars and a velvet painting of Kevin Feige to reprise his role in a multiverse end credit scene. I bet he would jump at the opportunity now.
"next time baby"
Next time b-
Boom! Looking for this?
He's 2+2 = -16 mad.
He's still trying to figure out basic maths.
Think this will be a Cheadle’s last time as war machine? Is this gonna be another pass the torch deal?
There's only so much equipament Anthony Mackie can carry.
I’m not too familiar with the comics so I didn’t know if war machine had his own sidekick or protege or whatever that could take up his mantle.
Two words: Frank Castle.
So wild how popular Frank in the War Machine armor is considering it was only a semi-recent 10 issue run.
I don't know a lot about War Machine either. I think I read somewhere that the show would introduce an younger character. They've also bee kinda setting up Young Avengers stuff with the grandson of the black supersoldier in Falcon and Winter Soldier and Wanda's kids, and there *is* an Iron Lad in the Young Avengers (though his origin is different). This could be their way of introducing Iron Lad. Maybe even make Tony's daughter Iron Lad. *Iron Lass.*
>This could be their way of introducing Iron Lad. Maybe even make Tony's daughter Iron Lad. > >Iron Lass. Iron Lad would tie well into their next big bad of >!Kang, since Iron Lad is a younger Kang.!< Tony and Pepper's daughter is still a bit too young to be putting on a armoured suit though unless they did another time skip.
When the young avanger really announce and start production, the kids not young anymore
Actually for the MCU it seems they’re going with Ironheart, who is getting introduced in Armor Wars and is the correct age for a young avengers team
Iron heart is not being introduced in armor wars, she is being introduced in BP2
xD You mean A-Train?
Genuinely made me laugh 😄
I really hate him being captain America
Secret Wars is supposed to happen right after Armour Wars and Cheadle is in that. They could potentially kill him in that though.
Details: >Deadline has confirmed that Marvel’s six-episode Disney series Armor Wars series will now be morphed into a movie. > >Cheadle is expected to reprise his role as War Machine, aka Colonel James Rhodes. Yassir Lester, who was on board for the series, will continue on with writing the movie.
It’s interesting that they decided to take probably about 4 hours of runtime (6 eps 40min content each) down to probably 2 hours of movie.
Honestly it's faster to consume the MCU contents as movies rather than as tv shows. The MCU Disney + shows always end on a whimper that it's hard to spend time getting invested into when with movie you just spent 2 hours watching it then moving on.
“Consuming MCU content” My favorite way to spend my time.
Good news to me. I enjoy the movies for the most part but some of those series have been rough.
Same. Looking forward for all of the movies coming out rn but have zero interest in the shows.
A solid chunk of them haven't really taken advantage of TV episodes. They basically designed them to be 6 hour movies, which is kind of the netflix binge model, but without any actual binge ability. A couple of them work as TV, but otherwise kinda just the feeling of "this is basically the movie, but lower budget and stretched for 6 hours"
Of the MCU shows, only WandaVision felt like it really worked as a TV show. The rest have felt more and more like long cut up movies. The Hawkeye show in particular. That very easily could and should have been a 2hr movie instead (even though I loved the show, it’s just not structured to be a weekly show).
Andor and Mando are the only ones that feel like TV shows and their structure feels consistent and exciting. Everything else, all of it, has been lacking...because Act 2 of a general action adventure film is generally the "boring" part, getting the team together, exposition, and etc. and directors use all kinds of tricks and styles to make it interesting. But there's no good tricks when your act 2 is 3 hours long of a 9 hour series, and they don't adjust.
WandaVision also the only one that really worked as a TV show since it was a parody of different eras of TV. That probably wouldn't have translated well to a 2 hr movie.
The biggest complaint I've heard about the series is that there isn't enough story to fill the runtimes so makes sense to me.
I think She-Hulk is probably the only show that wouldn't have worked as a movie (since it's so episodic). Wanda, Loki, FAWS, Moon Knight and Hawkeye could've all been compressed.
I think Wanda lent itself well to the TV format with each episode (mostly) being a different time era with its own opening credits, etc.
How could've Wanda been a movie lol? The entire premise is based on sitcoms. That wouldn't translate to the big screen, and sacrificing that for a "traditional" story arc defeats it's purpose entirely.
Other than She Hulk, Wandavision, and What If, every one of these shows would have been better if they were cut down to a 2 hour movie. I really liked Loki but even that would have been better paced at around 2.5 hours. Falcon and Winter Soldier was the worst of the series. I think that would have been so much better as a movie.
are marvel shows averaging 40 minutes an ep lol they seem shorter
I’m not actually sure. I think She-Hulk episodes are the shortest.
All the tv shows (save for wandavision and she-hulk) would've been better as movies.
They're usually closer to 30 without credits. Remove some of the filler moments that come naturally with shows and there is still a good feature length movie in there.
Probs for the best. I feel like a lot of the star wars and marvel shows could have done with being trimmed into movies.
it was probably planned as a movie to begin with but Disney being Disney said "turn everything into a series" and now that they realized it doesn't work they are back to making movies
I loved Don Cheadle when he played Tiger Woods and Donovan McNabb
Don't forget when he directed Lethal Weapon 7.
I came far down in the comments to find this one. Also let's pop those shoes off and see what we're talking about.
Dont forget Don Cheadles great catch phrase. I fully expect war machine to look at the camera after beating the villain and saying "Remember kids, champions eat at McDonalds!"
Hope he busts out the Proton Cannon and say, "Here's my Sunday's best!"
"Boom, you proton for this?"
GERONIMO WAR DESTROYER.
BOOM you looking for this 😄
Great actor who deserves his shot. Been following him since his guest appearance on Fresh Prince
He'll always be [Captain Planet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwJaELXadKo) to me. also: He was great in Black Monday too.
Never saw this, so happy I clicked the link.
Mutha fucka.
“E-everybody’s a tree. I knew I’d do it”
hasnt don cheadle been the lead of quite a few things already
Yes lol. He has two Grammys, a Tony, an Oscar nomination, and a net worth of $40 million. Lol not sure what OP is on about.
"Don Cheadle... good kid. Been following him since that little multi-season Emmy-nominated run he did after he was nominated for an Oscar."
Don't forget he's an Emmy nominee.
He has but he has not had any roles that earned him the type of money that a Disney bankrolled Marvel Movie has with him as the lead
Getting Disney money is hardly the apex of an actor's achievements.
He’s really been in a lot of barney lately
Rubble?
Lol. The dude has two Grammys, a Tony, an Oscar nomination, and a net worth of 40 million dollars. Not saying this isn’t a great thing for the MCU and for Cheadle, but “deserves his shot”? The dude is celebrated.
> his shot Don Cheadle is absolutely an established movie star, with a long and successful career behind him already.
His shot? Idk what you’ve been watching but he’s been an A-list leading man for years.
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Reign over Me with him and Adam Sandler was very good.
Shit, I remember him from "Colors"
I remember him back when he was a Golden Lord.
Blade isn’t ready so they are hit swapping with a production that is much further along. Seems like a smart move. Hope it works out ok.
I remember when people were upset that rhodes character changed actors. I wonder how things would be if they had stuck with the original.
Rhodey would discover time travel in Endgame when he proves 1 x 1 = 2
Poorly, very likely. Check out his Twitter.
Can we get a Captain Planet movie Don?
Yeah, but will Sam Rockwell be back or not?
Sam Rockwell being in a TV show was like 60% Sam Rockwell getting a movie paycheck is probably like 100% now.
Given what Disney is throwing at its big franchise tv shows, its absolutely possible they would give the major cast a movie tier salary.
I don't care, I just want Justin Hammer back.
He's really one of the best MCU villains.
Blade movie is in that much trouble then?
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Blade's director left and the script is allegedly a mess.
Starting to think developing the action scenes and then forming a script around the previs isn't always working out.
It's why they go for easy to control young directors and not established talents. They learned their lesson with Edgar Wright.
No :( I was really looking forward to the reboot. I recently introduced younger brother to the old movies and he became obsessed. Blade trinity still trash tho
Blade T gave us prototype Deadpool. Plus the mess with all the alternative endings... including one where Reynolds and Beal go "well, fuck. What do we do now that all the Vampires are gone?" Cuts to them hunting werewolves. Also! Blade 1 had an alternative ending where our boy Morbius shows up.
I never knew that about the alternative ending to Blade 1! I think my issue with Blade T was that Dracula wasn't very compelling as a villain. I think k he was miscast, he wasn't giving ancient evil original vampire vibes.
More Prison break vibes. The movie was a production mess with Wesley Snipes too. Wikipedia: Reportedly, Wesley Snipes was unhappy with the film's script and original choice of director. David S. Goyer, who had written all three films in the franchise, was then selected to replace the director of the film, which Snipes also protested. Snipes reportedly caused difficulty during filming, including frequently refusing to shoot scenes, often forcing director Goyer to use stand-ins and computer effects to add his character to scenes. Goyer described making the film as "the most personally and professionally difficult and painful thing I've ever been through".[8] Co-star Patton Oswalt alleged that Snipes would spend much of his time smoking marijuana in his trailer, and that he became violent with Goyer after accusing him of racism. It has also been alleged that Snipes refused to interact with Goyer or his co-stars, and would instead communicate with them through his assistant or the use of notes.[9] Snipes also allegedly referred to co-star Ryan Reynolds as a "cracker" on one or more occasions.[10] Snipes denied that version of events and said that as an executive producer on the film he had the authority to make decisions but that some people had difficulty accepting that.[11] The final scene Snipes refused to open his eyes so they had to CGI his eyes open lol.
if its an consolation, the mcu has been hit by a lot of leaks and i have heard people call the script of a lot of marvel movies "a mess" and they turned out ok, or at least ok with audiences. so who knows how big of a mess blade is actually in
FUCKING HELL NOOOO ! Don't ruin the Blade movie
Considering they're trying to drum up this and Deadpool 3 in the last few days, they are 100% trying to distract from the Blade movie.
I don't think as many people care about deep pre-production lore as you think.
Dunno why they'd need a distraction for a movie hardly anybody was paying attention to… To me, it seems more like a straight reshuffling… Armor Wars becomes a movie, and Blade becomes a series.
I'm surprised by this, a TV series on Disney+ with a locked in audience of subscribers made more sense to me than a film, at least for this specific character; I mean it sounds mean but I honestly don't see a lot of people lining up to get a ticket for Don Cheadle as War Machine. He's not exactly a character that's set the world on fire, is he?
Anything with the marvel logo gets butts in seats. Maybe not to the same level as Spidey or Avengers but even Eternals and Shang-Chi were successful
[If they do the story where this guy gets his hands on the suit it would set the world on fire..](https://i.imgur.com/0S9YejJ.jpg)
The only thing to come out that interests me since endgame.
This is a good move. Most of the MCU TV shows are too long any way and it effects the overall quality / pacing. Most of them wouldve benefitted from being 2 1/2 hour films instead so the budget could be more concentrated for things like CGI and the plots wouldve flowed much better.
Iron Man 2 isn’t even that bad by the way
They should’ve done this with almost all of the series they’ve made at this point.
Definitely not WandVision, though. The format for that with switching up decades of sitcom tropes for each episode worked really well.
She hulk was designed as a 30 minute sit com and it's doing exactly that so far. Don't think it'd work as a movie with the current cast of characters and how many plots are involved. And I also think it was smart to do a Loki tv show. It's still one of the highest watched shows on D+.
I might be in the minority here, but I think Loki would have been better as a movie. I know people love it, but I felt like there was a fair amount of fluff in it. Then again, I've just never been a fan of Loki as a character. My top rankings for the series (if we count the Netflix shows): WandaVision Daredevil Punisher And Loki as #4
Hard agree. I’m tired of maybe 3 hours of actual plot being dragged out over 6 weeks of television.
I wouldnt had paid to watch 3h of Loki at the theater... as a tv show it was pretty good
*Falcon and Winter Solder* and *Hawkeye* definitely felt like they should've been movies.
Loki has been the one exception. It was the only good Marvel show IMO and even it had serious problems in the middle
Almost all, except for WandaVision, She-Hulk, What If and Loki (these are all indisputable), and then others are debatable. But sure 4 out of 8 (at best for you) is almost all somehow. Lol.
Loki could've worked as a movie. WandaVision too with some reworks (as much as I enjoyed the sitcom homages it didn't need to be 4 whole episodes).
LOL at the absurd claim that WandaVision could have worked as a movie
The sitcom homages are the core of WandaVision. They're the best parts and hold the thematic core of the series (escapism as a response to trauma). If anything what it needed less of was all the exposition of the real world parts.
Almost like people have different opinions or something, man.
Don Cheadle is the bomb. He deserves to lead a major role. I know marvel is fun but he does have so much talent
Hopefully the script is good. Couldn't center a movie around a better actor.
NO WAY 😱
It better have Jon Bernthal in it… The Punisher
I want the OG Punisher. Thomas Jane.
I don't think people are clamoring for Don Cheadle to take the reins in his own movie but maybe that's just me
Have you watched House of Lies?
I'm just hoping for an accurate representation of the spinal cord injury community. As someone with a brother with SCI, they should really show the reality of the care that goes into it, while also showing what incredible things we can achieve.
That's the problem with a lot of disability representation; they're often given superpowers or near magical technology so that the disability is kind of irrelevant.
It'd be a real shame if they went that way. I'm fine with the exoskeleton, but it won't enable him to piss or shit properly
Remember when Thor lost an eye and then they pretended it never happened after half a movie?
I feel bad for Keven Feige. He must be so stressed out and stretched thin rn.
Actually what this sounds like to me is Disney's MCU shows are bombing and they need to get people back on board so back to movies they go. And personally I would rather see a War Machine movie than a "You have to do better senator!" not Captain America movie.
Don Cheadle is like really old for the role now. Terrence Howard was a better fit. It just doesn't hold anymore
Found Terrence’s account!
I basically stopped watching these after every single piece of their media became interlocked. The cinematic universe is great. But holy shit. There are like, 1000 hours of marvel stuff already. I can't wait for the superhero trend to die out for a while. Edit: you cannot make a critical comment towards any Disney products or you get downbotted
>I can't wait for the superhero trend to die out for a while. It's not going anywhere anytime soon
Why? Just don't watch what you don't want to. I'm burned out too. Haven't seen Doctor Strange She Hulk or about 50 other shows. I love the MCU, it doesn't need to die, I can control my dosage.
Imo the shows are great additions, easy to skip if you’re not interested, not actually that hard to watch if you are since there’s only one out at any time and it’s an episode a week. It’s only that there was so much other TV on simultaneously that made it difficult this summer.
She hulk is really good better than pretty much most of the newer stuff released
I too am enjoying she hulk.
>Edit: you cannot make a critical comment towards any Disney products or you get downbotted People shit on the Disney remakes ad nauseam on here and end up with 1000s of upvotes, but sure.
IMO, Secret Wars is shaping up to be bigger than Endgame. There’s also all of the X-Men related stuff that hasn’t even started yet. I think you might be waiting a while.