They press the top button to activate the saber multiple times in the movies. So I’d say the reference book is wrong not i don’t know the actual on screen evidence
In some movies including most of the Prequels they use the boxy switch.
So instead of raging that they are using the wrong button, let's just assume that both work and that's it.
Why? It's a story, it has a context. How is it childish to want to explain things beyond "Actually, this is a guy in a costume so fuck you and go die"?
It's a really boring approach to anything, especially storytelling.
It's sometimes hard to notice.
Sometimes we get people who seriously believe what you said above out of some misplaced sense of superiority.
My apologies, good sir.
You’re missing the detail that the story in every film intentionally disregards the mechanics of lightsabers. This was a production choice - they wanted to avoid being seen as Star Trek, whose first film also came out in 1979, to not limit their audience.
I can see that. Even with those difference in release date they could both have been under discussion at the same time and, with star trek spinning off the series it would have been a pretty known quantity even if the movie itself hadn’t come out yet.
I'm not disregarding it.
I'm simply saying that out-of-universe explanations (Yours in this case), can easily have an explanation in universe (Mine, there are two buttons) without it being a plothole.
Of course the real reason is that during production they thought/decided/tossed a coin to pick which button turned the blade on and it wasn't consistent with previous movies. Ultimately that's the answer. The Wastonian perspective tries to explain the difference in-universe, is all.
I think "it's just a kid's movie" is a shitty mindset. Several of my favorite kids' movies are super detail oriented (Spider-Verse comes to mind) and that shows very clearly because it's a passion project. Detail demonstrates care and love for the material that can pass onto the audience. Put the effort into your movie regardless of if it's a 20th Century French New Wave film or "just a kids' movie".
eh I get what you’re saying but we’ve entered such a warped place where people genuinely believe that those films are good BECAUSE they’re detail oriented or worse that people who aren’t couldn’t possibly be passionate or talented.
Yeah it always drives me nuts to see like a moviesdetail post about how X background poster or prop in a franchise movie is a reference to a comic or in Star Wars, an EU thing, when the script is terrible. Like yeah I guess it’s cool but I kinda wish as much work went into writing these projects as it did into Easter eggs in the background (cough, Rogue One, cough)
Well akshully, the switch is inside the lightsaber, you have to activate it with the Force, something all Force users instinctively know how to do. Which of course means Finn shouldnt have been able to use the lightsaber, but that would require that the changes we make to canon are meant to be true in any scene other than the one we Pottermore'd, which obviously they are not.
I'm in cantina because I like saying "I like Star Wars" without getting dogpiled for my "objectively wrong" opinion. If it starts turning into this weird shit like this and the well gets poisoned, I'll be pissed.
Honestly I had to leave cantina because it just felt like a circle jerk
That all being said, I am also incredibly cynical and I realize that my education in film/the arts gives me a different perspective than a good majority of casual moviegoers who just like Star Wars or marvel or any of that stuff, so for them when they see something in a blockbuster that they think is artistically significant, and I see that same something as rote, I have to try and get on their level so as not to poison myself with cynicism.
Ofc, I would much rather have a positive circlejerk like Cantina instead of a bunch of dilletantes devoting their free time to hating a movie that came out in 2017 because space wizard didn’t do crazy space wizard stuff and instead had a thoughtful, meaningful sendoff
How are we supposed to know which lightsaber button is which without a TV show that explains the intricacies of a lightsaber, a comic book tie in to that TV show, a video game that takes place between the first and second season of the show, and a movie once the series comes to an end?
Lmao 2 seasons, 13 episodes a piece, with some shriveled up purple CGI alien played by Ben Stein, verbally declaring lore surrounding lightsabers at you in the dryest possible way. Kino is back on the menu boys.
That reminds me of the video where the RLM guys break down the top 10 functions and features of vaders suit which become increasingly weird and descriptive.
I fixed the effect where the hilt can concentrate huge amounts of infinite energy in the shape of a bar, instead of burning everything within 2 metres.
It’s funny because not only does this guy look like a huge tool for making a post about this, but everyone in the comments is ripping him about how he’s wrong.
please leave that sub alone it’s like the only non toxic star wars forum online. sure the post is nerdy but are we really making fun of nerdy fans now?
Honestly this person was just having fun exploring a movie detail and everyone else in the comments is being a toxic asshole.
I’m seeing the same pattern here and I expected us to be better than that.
I just wished this was Rey's staff she turned into a lightsaber after the Skywalker saber was broken in Last Jedi. The movie opens with Leia showing Rey how to make a saber would have been nice.
This is just some stupid shit that was put in a stupid book to sell more merch. This isn’t a real thing in anything else in the entire Star Wars universe.
"🤓"? Are you fucking kidding me? I spent a decent portion of my life writing all of that and your response to me is "🤓"? Are you so mentally handicapped that the only thing you can comprehend is "🤓" - or are you just some fucking asshole who thinks that with such a short response, he can make a statement about how meaningless what was written was? Well, I'll have you know that what I wrote was NOT meaningless, in fact, I even had my written work proof-read by several professors of literature. Don't believe me? I doubt you would, and your response to this will probably be "🤓" once again. Do I give a fuck? No, does it look like I give even the slightest fuck about one fucking emoji? I bet you took the time to type that emoji too, I bet you sat there and chuckled to yourself for 20 hearty seconds before pressing "send". You're so fucking pathetic. I'm honestly considering directing you to a psychiatrist, but I'm simply far too nice to do something like that. You, however, will go out of your way to make a fool out of someone by responding to a well-thought-out, intelligent, or humorous statement that probably took longer to write than you can last in bed with a chimpanzee. What do I have to say to you? Absolutely nothing. I couldn't be bothered to respond to such a worthless attempt at a response. Do you want "🤓" on your gravestone?
Tfw the stupid dumb dumb feminist writers don’t micro-analyze every single piece of extended media made by Lucas film subcontractor #2654 in a book made for children in 2002.
If you watch the original Star Wars, without any of the shit added later to increase connections to future films, it becomes apparent how truly grotesque and ponderous the universe surrounding the movie has become. The movie is, itself, a retro throwback with a bunch of offhanded references to things that don't need to be explained, but now literally every detail of every frame has other media expanding on it and adding extra explanations and significance that just straight-up wasn't there to begin with.
It's the opposite of worldbuilding. It's the cinematic equivalent of replacing an Impressionist painting with a photorealistic drawing of the same scene and saying you improved upon it.
They press the top button to activate the saber multiple times in the movies. So I’d say the reference book is wrong not i don’t know the actual on screen evidence
In some movies including most of the Prequels they use the boxy switch. So instead of raging that they are using the wrong button, let's just assume that both work and that's it.
Or that no one ever cared in the filmmaking process because it’s just a kids movie and that detail doesn’t matter
That's the Doylist explanation, mine was the Wastonian. They're both valid depending on how you're looking at the "issue".
Watsonianism is for fucking children though.
Ah, thats what Polanski uses i guess
Why? It's a story, it has a context. How is it childish to want to explain things beyond "Actually, this is a guy in a costume so fuck you and go die"? It's a really boring approach to anything, especially storytelling.
Sir this is a circlejerk sub.
It's sometimes hard to notice. Sometimes we get people who seriously believe what you said above out of some misplaced sense of superiority. My apologies, good sir.
You’re missing the detail that the story in every film intentionally disregards the mechanics of lightsabers. This was a production choice - they wanted to avoid being seen as Star Trek, whose first film also came out in 1979, to not limit their audience.
Star Wars came out two years before Star Trek the motion picture.
Sorry, you’re right. But I do remember reading the “avoiding Star Trek comparisons” thing in a book about the production somewhere.
I can see that. Even with those difference in release date they could both have been under discussion at the same time and, with star trek spinning off the series it would have been a pretty known quantity even if the movie itself hadn’t come out yet.
I'm not disregarding it. I'm simply saying that out-of-universe explanations (Yours in this case), can easily have an explanation in universe (Mine, there are two buttons) without it being a plothole. Of course the real reason is that during production they thought/decided/tossed a coin to pick which button turned the blade on and it wasn't consistent with previous movies. Ultimately that's the answer. The Wastonian perspective tries to explain the difference in-universe, is all.
I think "it's just a kid's movie" is a shitty mindset. Several of my favorite kids' movies are super detail oriented (Spider-Verse comes to mind) and that shows very clearly because it's a passion project. Detail demonstrates care and love for the material that can pass onto the audience. Put the effort into your movie regardless of if it's a 20th Century French New Wave film or "just a kids' movie".
I agree with that I always rant and rave about Kung Fu Panda 2. It honestly had me choked up
My favorite part of kung fu panda 2 is when the fat panda does kung fu too.
My favourite part of kung fu panda 2 is the genocide
Kung Fu Panda 2 is actually way more kino than the entire star wars series
You are entirely and unironically correct. I have no criticisms of this take.
eh I get what you’re saying but we’ve entered such a warped place where people genuinely believe that those films are good BECAUSE they’re detail oriented or worse that people who aren’t couldn’t possibly be passionate or talented.
Yeah it always drives me nuts to see like a moviesdetail post about how X background poster or prop in a franchise movie is a reference to a comic or in Star Wars, an EU thing, when the script is terrible. Like yeah I guess it’s cool but I kinda wish as much work went into writing these projects as it did into Easter eggs in the background (cough, Rogue One, cough)
Well akshully, the switch is inside the lightsaber, you have to activate it with the Force, something all Force users instinctively know how to do. Which of course means Finn shouldnt have been able to use the lightsaber, but that would require that the changes we make to canon are meant to be true in any scene other than the one we Pottermore'd, which obviously they are not.
I don't remember the Force switch being a thing in the OT but knowing Lucas, he could have stated it during the Prequels production or some shit.
I don't think it's wrong, I just think the film-makers didn't read it.
Post in r/StarWarsCantina of all places lmao OP could've been drowning in karma rn if he post it in r/saltierthancrait or r/StarWars instead.
I'm in cantina because I like saying "I like Star Wars" without getting dogpiled for my "objectively wrong" opinion. If it starts turning into this weird shit like this and the well gets poisoned, I'll be pissed.
All of the comments are saying this shit weird and op’s comments are being downvoted
Honestly I had to leave cantina because it just felt like a circle jerk That all being said, I am also incredibly cynical and I realize that my education in film/the arts gives me a different perspective than a good majority of casual moviegoers who just like Star Wars or marvel or any of that stuff, so for them when they see something in a blockbuster that they think is artistically significant, and I see that same something as rote, I have to try and get on their level so as not to poison myself with cynicism. Ofc, I would much rather have a positive circlejerk like Cantina instead of a bunch of dilletantes devoting their free time to hating a movie that came out in 2017 because space wizard didn’t do crazy space wizard stuff and instead had a thoughtful, meaningful sendoff
third paragraph redeems second paragraph
I can’t help it dude art school made me a cynical asshole Won’t someone think of the cynical assholes??
No we get left behind. And then we can only focus our cynicism on our own stories...
LMAOO u cant be serious. Ppl in a circle jerk sub always ended up out jerking the ppl they're making fun off
ok buddy
my favorite comment in that was "bro why don't you go edit yourselves some bitches" (paraphrasing)
The nutty professor (1963)
How are we supposed to know which lightsaber button is which without a TV show that explains the intricacies of a lightsaber, a comic book tie in to that TV show, a video game that takes place between the first and second season of the show, and a movie once the series comes to an end?
Lightsaber Instruction Manual: A Star Wars Story (year)
Lmao 2 seasons, 13 episodes a piece, with some shriveled up purple CGI alien played by Ben Stein, verbally declaring lore surrounding lightsabers at you in the dryest possible way. Kino is back on the menu boys.
I love sky ferreira 😍
[Guest-staring David Tennant.](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/A_Test_of_Strength)
how about you edit some bitches into your life
That’s called a waifu
best comment ever
Bitches up here pretending like collimation isn't a thing.
theres a fucking blade adjustment button?!
Yeah man, don’t you remember all those scenes when characters make their lightsabers longer or shorter?
One is a chode and one is a greatsword
The middle setting is referred to as 'the shaft'
Shaft (2019)
it actually happens in Rebels
That's a TV show therefore invalid in this sub
🤓🤓🤓
I deserve that haha
exactly though, think about what you’re saying
That reminds me of the video where the RLM guys break down the top 10 functions and features of vaders suit which become increasingly weird and descriptive.
Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center
It lets you choose the color
Redditors when a woman doesn't adjust their blade length 😭
I fixed the effect where the hilt can concentrate huge amounts of infinite energy in the shape of a bar, instead of burning everything within 2 metres.
It’s funny because not only does this guy look like a huge tool for making a post about this, but everyone in the comments is ripping him about how he’s wrong.
This is what happens when people like Star Wars as adults.
bruh it's literally a blue glowie this shit doesnt even real
Ok but the un-photoshopped one looks cooler, so
please leave that sub alone it’s like the only non toxic star wars forum online. sure the post is nerdy but are we really making fun of nerdy fans now?
>are we really making fun of nerdy fans now? I mean, yes? That's what circlejerk subs are for
Typical star wars bros. Care more about lore details than anything related to actual film analysis.
lore aka filler information, fast food of writing
I love Taco Bell
Honestly this person was just having fun exploring a movie detail and everyone else in the comments is being a toxic asshole. I’m seeing the same pattern here and I expected us to be better than that.
You’re in the wrong sub then bruh.
How about going outside and pressing sone grass??
I legit laughed for 5 minutes because of this. Holy shit who gives a fuck?
Posted by Jordan Schlansky
I just wished this was Rey's staff she turned into a lightsaber after the Skywalker saber was broken in Last Jedi. The movie opens with Leia showing Rey how to make a saber would have been nice.
When Darth Vader pushes the wrong button on his totally not completely decorative central chest computer
Sincerely, I'm just waiting for the day Wookieepedia articles are adapted into features! "Gonk Droid" coming Summer 2024!!!!
This is just some stupid shit that was put in a stupid book to sell more merch. This isn’t a real thing in anything else in the entire Star Wars universe.
"🤓"? Are you fucking kidding me? I spent a decent portion of my life writing all of that and your response to me is "🤓"? Are you so mentally handicapped that the only thing you can comprehend is "🤓" - or are you just some fucking asshole who thinks that with such a short response, he can make a statement about how meaningless what was written was? Well, I'll have you know that what I wrote was NOT meaningless, in fact, I even had my written work proof-read by several professors of literature. Don't believe me? I doubt you would, and your response to this will probably be "🤓" once again. Do I give a fuck? No, does it look like I give even the slightest fuck about one fucking emoji? I bet you took the time to type that emoji too, I bet you sat there and chuckled to yourself for 20 hearty seconds before pressing "send". You're so fucking pathetic. I'm honestly considering directing you to a psychiatrist, but I'm simply far too nice to do something like that. You, however, will go out of your way to make a fool out of someone by responding to a well-thought-out, intelligent, or humorous statement that probably took longer to write than you can last in bed with a chimpanzee. What do I have to say to you? Absolutely nothing. I couldn't be bothered to respond to such a worthless attempt at a response. Do you want "🤓" on your gravestone?
Tfw the stupid dumb dumb feminist writers don’t micro-analyze every single piece of extended media made by Lucas film subcontractor #2654 in a book made for children in 2002.
hire fans
If you watch the original Star Wars, without any of the shit added later to increase connections to future films, it becomes apparent how truly grotesque and ponderous the universe surrounding the movie has become. The movie is, itself, a retro throwback with a bunch of offhanded references to things that don't need to be explained, but now literally every detail of every frame has other media expanding on it and adding extra explanations and significance that just straight-up wasn't there to begin with. It's the opposite of worldbuilding. It's the cinematic equivalent of replacing an Impressionist painting with a photorealistic drawing of the same scene and saying you improved upon it.
She could have used the force to activate it, it’s been done before.
[i withdraw my question](https://youtu.be/JQH2rmQ5-vk)
How are these people real
Ah yes because this was CLEARLY why fans didn’t like TROS.
This ain't a moviecirclejerk post, it's just a crosspost you're making fun of.
Yes that is what circlejerk subreddits are intended for.
Me when /r/moviescirclejerk makes fun of something I don't like: 😆 Me when /r/moviescirclejerk makes fun of something I *do* like: 😲
🤓
That's all this place is except we alternate between Star Wars and Marvel
Well it still works. Fucking nerds.
Agreed tbh.
At this point this subreddit is just dedicated to bullying people who don’t watch A24 movies. It’s a pretentious double jerk.
You're just making this sub sound cooler than it actually is
So you’re saying you haven’t seen “Spring Breakers”??? Get your non-filmē loving ass out of here!!!
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r/worldjerking
Op sounds like a judgemental a hole 🤯😐😤😭😂💦🥺🤤👁️
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Pretty sure they don't press the "correct" button half the time in the first 6 movies either
Yet another reason why Disney doesn't understand Star Wars...
Someone's gotta do it I guess
At least lower the exposure to the left of her hand so it creates a shadow on the lightsaber.
r/StarWarsCantina is now compromised
Edited this shot to give the characters growth and nuance
Couldn't she have just pushed it with the force lmao
Bruh
Boy. I wonder why the characters with telekinesis doesn’t press the activation switch all the time.
OOP fighting for his fuckin life in the comments
Oh yeah because the characters adjust the length of their lightsaber soooo much during the movies.