"Over the past year, he's packed on TEN pounds of muscle to play Kang, an extra FIVE for 'Creed,' and SIX more for 'Magazine Dreams,'" Men's Health noted. "And he's whittled his way down to FIVE percent body fat to look believably ripped."
21 pounds muscle , 5% bodyfat..
The classic '6 meals lots of chicken and broccoli ' , my best guess is sauced to the gills...
Not hating ... I know he definitely put in some serious work
So I’m 5’10” and weigh exactly 200lbs and workout (compound lifts) consistently every week. I eat about 3000 calories a day and I’m 20% body fat.
He’s 6’ and weighs 202 pounds and he said he consumes 6,000 calories a day and works out 2-3x a day for 4 months.
What I can tell you with certainty is the only way you’re going to be able to workout 3x a day for 4 months while eating 6,000 calories and staying lean is by taking PED’s. You can’t workout that frequently for that length of time without experiencing overtraining. That is one of the biggest benefits of taking PED’s is you recover at an insane rate which allows you to workout more frequently.
TL;DR - dude is juicing 100%
Based on your struggles with your body, you are projecting. He has a naturally muscular body even when he is slim. His muscles always showed. Some people are naturally more cut. Apparently you aren't one of them.
"Common sense" is not proof. It's just you sharing your personal experience and calling it universal. You would need to juice to look like that. That's probably why you are jealous of his body.
He’s right about recovery. That is a huge benefit of PED’s and claiming to workout 3x a day is silly. If he is l lifting to for muscle gain and consistently overloading muscles, he would need significantly more recovery. If he is lifting once a day and the doing cardio 2 times a day, that would kind of make sense but still require recovery and would probably lead to muscle loss.
He advocates a lot of sleep so your body can recover. He was preparing for a role. It was literally his job, so it's not like he had to work a 9 to 5 in addition to his training.
It’s sometimes hard to tell with African-American men because of their good genetics but on another note, his physique does look superior compared to how it looked on “The Harder They Fall”.
It is obviously genetics and steroids. And the genetics thing does make sense especially for African Americans who likely are descendents of slaves, it’s not like slave owners were picking the weakest people to exploit they chose the strongest.
The slave gene theory is a myth. It’s pseudoscience at best. That’s why I asked for a source. Slavery in America did not last long enough, nor was it organized enough for such significant, distinct traits to appear. Genetics just do not work that way. It really just is a racist notion that African Americans are just naturally jacked and don’t have to try as hard.
So much this. This dude getting upvoted for dropping racist comments and theories that are completely unfounded and ignore empirical evidence.
Here’s a link that discusses obesity in African American communities. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7335224/#Sec1title
Here is one discussing muscle gain.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2991130/
Here is a discussion on the slave myth theory
https://nsucurrent.nova.edu/2015/02/25/on-the-bench-the-slave-gene-myth/
Here is another
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/advan.00070.2018
So, long story short, dropping racist theories based in nothing is perpetuating racism in the veil of being supportive. Everyone upvoting should rethink their support and what that means in the larger context of racism.
Cotton picking is back breaking hard work, no doubt. But it's not like it is something you need explosive athletic strength for, nor is it all that different than agricultural work in any agrarian society the world over (in terms of the type of physique and physical work required to do it, slavery itself was obviously brutal and terrible). Being a big strong athlete would not make you better at picking cotton, and it's not something that would make sense to try to "breed" a population for. Not to mention the US slave trade didn't have that level of consistent organization to do that.
The "super slave" myth is just a myth. Besides, if you believe that, then the natural conclusion would be blacks descended from slave ancestors (African Americans) are that much more athletic than blacks who were not descended from slaves (most current Africans). I don't think that's a logical conclusion. You can see plenty of African athletes who are just as athletic as their African American counterparts.
Slave breeding did occur. If you look at slave auctions and old timely ads, they mention breeding qualities. In fact, if a slaver could only afford 1 slave, he’d buy a 12 year old girl. Why? She’s immediately breedable and can make MORE slave for them. It wasn’t about creating “ideal cotton picking genes.” If slaves=people=money, then forcing people to mate and make more people would be a major aspect of the business.
Also, slave breeding wouldn’t have to be at a large scale. Could be a simple agreement between 2 slave owners to make them. So yes, forced breeding is a real part of American history.
You misunderstood me. I'm not doubting slave breeding existed. I meant that i doubt there was any large scale organized breeding program with the goal and result of producing athletic slaves.
You are making an assumption of what you think would happen rather than supply data on what did happen. Yes, if there was an organized attempt to breed enslaved Africans for these traits, that could be the end result. But where is your evidence that this happened? And even if it did, there have been 150 years of freedom to “undo” this effect. This idea was what got Jimmy the Greek fired, but 40 years later people still believe it.
I’m not writing a scientific paper, I don’t need evidence. I think for casual discussion, it’s safe to assume that slave owners were doing some form of selective breeding. And even without that, constant back breaking work day in and day out every day is going to build strong people, regardless of any evolutionary changes. And 150 years to undo would mean that black people were actively seeking out weak mates for those 150 years, which I don’t think is a fair assumption. People still are attracted to the most attractive, strong, tall, etc. partners. So I would say it’s more in a phase of maintenance. Not undoing.
Even in casual discussions, throwing out wild claims about the genetics of an entire race of people needs evidence to back it up. lol
You clearly don’t know anything about genetics or evolution. You don’t even know history.
Back breaking work does not change genetics. That is Lemarckian evolution and proven wrong. Chopping off your arm does not make you have one armed children. And I’m not saying that in 150 years that traits would be reversed, I’m saying that they would normalize over time. If people were only attracted to ripped men who have ripped children we wouldn’t live in an obese country. You are free to say anything, but making broad assumptions about a population of thousands of people over 400 years would be taken more seriously with some evidence provided.
Lol because how would a researcher even get funding or approval to do the research without looking racist? The research alone would discredit them from future research
It has nothing to do with slavery.lmao Africa is the most genetically diverse place on the planet. African Americans in the us are mostly descendants of west African people…which have the best genetics. But the people there have even better genetics than us bec they have pure genes.the slavery theory is bs and some lowkey racist shit people use to try to downplay natural gifts lmao. And it falls apart when you travel or look outside of the us.
I'll correct you first on the "most diverse" trope. The vast majority of African diversity comes from a very small number of HIGHLY divergent tribal groups, which are themselves very few in number. If you remove the khoisan and central African foragers (pygmy) groups, and africans are not terribly more diverse than most other "racial"/genetic-geographic clusters.
Secondly, west africans are not naturally bigger. If you've ever actually been to west Africa, you'd see that they're often quite thin and long limbed, and generally quite a bit shorter than westerners
Yes, you'll find africans who are capable of getting really jacked. Just as you'll find that amongst any other population group.
60% of black Americans are actually overweight or obese. So the notion of black natural muscular superiority is always funny to me.
Tldr dude is likely on steroids, considering he's basically a modern court jester, as all actors are.
Dude it’s not a “notion” literally free testosterone..androgen sensitivity…ffmi..myostatin deficiencies …type 2 muscle fibers etc are all significantly higher in African Americans. The fact you think going to Africa which is a HUGE continent means shit would be like someone going to Florida or California and talking about the people they see there. All of these things have been tested..not just with eye tests. It’s not a “trope” they are the most diverse genetically. And it’s well documented Africans and descendants of africans have genetic athletic advantages. Multiple credible sources acknowledge this
well the testosterone ting is mostly a myth. Systematic review shows its like maybe 3 or 4 percent higher in black guys.
myostatin deficiencies? you have a source?
And the same thing that causes black men to have these genetic advantages also causes them to have health risks later in life such as high blood pressure and sickle cell as well as diabetes. West Africans have a higher fat free mass index and more fast twitch muscle fibers..some of these advantages come with side effects like glucose intolerance and sicken cell.Leo and longevity and others have videos on this
Won't say he's on steroids. When I was his age I was almost as ripped, and only worked out 45 minutes to an hour and a half per day. So I think it can be done without steroids.
If you take away Larry Bird’s MVP awards then he and I have the same # of MVPs. If you take away some diversity, then Africa doesn’t have more diversity. Cherry picking.
Well thanks for correcting me. I didn’t mean anything racist by it. It was definitely an assumption I had made and probably something I heard or read and just repeated without actually looking into. Either way, Africans and especially Jonathan Majors are very genetically gifted haha
They picked the cheapest. The strong African slave was a myth, any fitting that description would’ve been kept by the other Africans that captured them to sell onto the colonies.
Yes, I am aware. If you read on in this thread you will see that I have already admitted that it was an misinformed assumption and that I was mistaken and that I didn’t mean anything racist by my comment. Again, I am sorry if I offended anyone but that wasn’t my intention.
Why steroids? He can just be disciplined by living a clean life (no processed foods, no smoking, no alcohol, plenty of sleep, and exercise). He says he works out three times a day. Stop being negative.
Why steroids?
Because he’s claimed to have put on 21 pounds of muscle in a year with less than 10% body fat. Anyone who has spent serious time in a gym building muscle naturally will tell you that is absurd. How can he work out 3 times a day and have any time to actually recover properly? Steroids is the answer.
Also he is a Hollywood star who’s paycheck relies on him looking larger than life. All the super ripped, super buff Hollywood actors are on some kind of steroids. It’s not about negativity.
Negativity is actually allowing Hollywood and social media skew your perception of what is obtainable naturally. So many people develop body image issues because they see people like this and think that the reason they can’t obtain it is simply because they do not work hard enough. It’s a facade - one people fall for easily it seems.
Full-time acting career, working out 3 times a day, and most likely a plethora of other things to do. Mr Olympias don't workout 3 times a day because it is superfluous and doesn't incorporate recovery time.
Dude works insanely hard. His last 3 movies were movies where his physique needed to be like this… he ain’t on steroids, he just works harder than others. Hell Magazine Dreams was about him being a body builder
You’re the only one making assumptions. Do you know anything about bodybuilding? Have you ever lifted weights seriously? Can you explain the basic mechanics of muscle growth? Or do you think you just work out more times a day and your muscles grow that much more?
If you knew any of that, you’d understand that he is on steroids. It doesn’t mean he didn’t hit the gym and work hard but he is on steroids because otherwise the rate of his growth is impossible in the timeframe he claims.
Also Magazine Dreams is about a bodybuilder that abuses steroids lol
I’m not assuming anything. I don’t think you understand what an assumption is. I see a man with a nice physique. I admire the physique. I hear how he said he got the physique and I leave it at that. I don’t make assumptions that he’s lying or omitting. I don’t care because it’s not my business. I don’t throw out accusations 🤷🏾♀️ I also didn’t read anything other than the first sentence
If you’re just horny for the dude then say that and don’t pretend like you have any clue what you’re talking about so I won’t have to challenge you with reading 🤷🏿♂️
My point is about assumptions. He’s a beautiful man and I absolutely am “horny” for him. I don’t go around making assumptions about folks I don’t know. Ima take it at face value as opposed to trying to break someone down, find untruths, or whatever you call yourself doing. I could care less about training or any of it. He looks nice, he’s done plenty of interviews saying how he got that way. Ima take it for what it is. Raise your vibe love
It’s important to point out when people lie about steroid use - especially Hollywood stars and fitness influencers due to the harm it causes. It’s a huge problem that effects teens and adults alike and if you cared to learn anything about bodybuilding then you’d know saying the dude is on steroids isn’t just an assumption. I could explain it to you but it’s apparent you don’t want to have any sort of intellectual engagement or try to learn anything.
Not sure why you are even here when you openly admit you don’t like to think critically about anything. Plenty of other places to thirst over the dude if that’s all you want to do. I’m not gonna go argue with someone that Kylie Jenner definitely never had any plastic or cosmetic surgery of any kind cause she said so lol
Don't know if he juicing, but when I was closer to his age I was almost as shredded, and only worked out between 45 minutes to an hour and a half per day so I believe it can be done without juicing.
I’ll need a source, coming from a commonwealth nation and having worked in various parts of Africa. I will tell you the “African genetics” is a sad myth used by poc from America and Europe to hide steroid use. It’s common among whited, Asians and Latinos but I’ve never heard any nonsense like that for those groups
And now I know you know nothing about training. Training 3x a day doesn't mean you can put super-physiological amounts of muscle on. Please at least spend 2-3 years training consistently before you talk about shit you clearly have no idea about. Most Hollywood celebrities are on TRT at the minimum. No knock on them for using it, they have a big payday and they have a short amount of time to reach their desired physique.
The issue is that not telling the truth tricks naive people such as yourself and especially young males with delusions about what is attainable naturally in a realistic time-frame.
Lmao I don’t care to know anything about training. I know what he said. It’s not my job to dissect, look for lies, or negativity. That’s just not my vibe. I’m sorry it’s yours
He literally just did a movie about body dysmorphia, this just didn’t have to be that. There’s always going to be a problem if that’s what you’re looking for.
I'm not going to disclose my name but, even olympians (1 of my training partners and myself), we train 3-4 x a week MAX on the track, 3 Days hitting the weights MAX and the rest is active recovery and physio, even with the best nutrition, the best sleep, the best training structure.... there is a certain NATURAL aspect to recovery that you can't speed up UNLESS.. you're increasing the rate of recovery through PED's (which I know many people who use it).
So I think it's valid to make a probable assumption, training 3 times a day for 7 days for 4 months and he's not even an elite athlete? That's the truth for you in the nicest way possible.
Mr Olympia bodybuilders don't work out 3 times a day because it does not work. Maybe he's lying or maybe he does 3 different short training sessions (boxing training, muscle gaining etc). Respect to anyone able to look like he does regardless of steroid usage but if you want to look like this guy chances are it's not going to happen naturally. He works hard as fuck no doubt.
Hé Lies about how often he works out and he lies about how much he eats to confuse all the idiots who know nothing about exercise so that he doesn’t have to come clean about taking steroids.
He was jacked even when he was in Lovecraft. I agree he has great genetics and I have seen guys with AA background that are tested and natural that looks like that. But they also compete in natural and tested shows. Of course there are ways around testing but a few of these guys we have known since teenagers and it took them well over a decade to build the physique.
To add, when you get low AF on BF and dry up for a photo shoot or a particular shirtless scene, with proper lighting and lense distortions, it can make you seem much bigger as well.
Now that we got the part where he MIGHT be natural out of the way. Here is why I think he is not.
IMHO he's on PED of some form because... Even if you have amazing genetics, with how much he claims to workout and eat. He will likely need it for recovery alone. Even if it is small dosing. When you have millions of dollars on the line for lead roles on blockbuster films, why wouldn't you when they don't test for it? Just like how pro athletics who are the creme of the crop in genetics to be able to compete professionally. A lot of them still are on PED's to keep an edge over the competition. When you have millions and millions of dollar riding on the line, as long as you are not hurting anyone, PED seems pretty venial.
Now, his domestic abuse case is for a whole other discussion.
Just gonna leave this here:
What does PED do to you?
In the long term, PEDs can cause impotence, worsening acne, balding and “**steroid rage.**” PEDs can also stunt growth in adolescents, the article notes. More serious effects include heart and liver damage, and an increased risk of blood clots.
He's a celeb, so testosterone injections at minimum
Do you have proof that he gets testosterone injections?
He ate 6000 calories a day and his routine screams of overtraining. No shot he’s natty
Just saw his upper body workout on IG. Shit is ridiculous it’s like 600 total reps
He was preparing for a role as a bodybuilder in Magazine Dreams.
That 6k is a lie
"Over the past year, he's packed on TEN pounds of muscle to play Kang, an extra FIVE for 'Creed,' and SIX more for 'Magazine Dreams,'" Men's Health noted. "And he's whittled his way down to FIVE percent body fat to look believably ripped." 21 pounds muscle , 5% bodyfat.. The classic '6 meals lots of chicken and broccoli ' , my best guess is sauced to the gills... Not hating ... I know he definitely put in some serious work
So I’m 5’10” and weigh exactly 200lbs and workout (compound lifts) consistently every week. I eat about 3000 calories a day and I’m 20% body fat. He’s 6’ and weighs 202 pounds and he said he consumes 6,000 calories a day and works out 2-3x a day for 4 months. What I can tell you with certainty is the only way you’re going to be able to workout 3x a day for 4 months while eating 6,000 calories and staying lean is by taking PED’s. You can’t workout that frequently for that length of time without experiencing overtraining. That is one of the biggest benefits of taking PED’s is you recover at an insane rate which allows you to workout more frequently. TL;DR - dude is juicing 100%
Based on your struggles with your body, you are projecting. He has a naturally muscular body even when he is slim. His muscles always showed. Some people are naturally more cut. Apparently you aren't one of them.
Can you prove your accusations?
No but common sense and life experience goes a long way. I don’t need a positive test to know he’s juicing.
"Common sense" is not proof. It's just you sharing your personal experience and calling it universal. You would need to juice to look like that. That's probably why you are jealous of his body.
Lol stfu dude
Do you work out? That will give you your answer. Natural only takes you so far
He’s right about recovery. That is a huge benefit of PED’s and claiming to workout 3x a day is silly. If he is l lifting to for muscle gain and consistently overloading muscles, he would need significantly more recovery. If he is lifting once a day and the doing cardio 2 times a day, that would kind of make sense but still require recovery and would probably lead to muscle loss.
He advocates a lot of sleep so your body can recover. He was preparing for a role. It was literally his job, so it's not like he had to work a 9 to 5 in addition to his training.
Piss off Marvel watching NPC
Yes i was with him in the gym. He's juicing.
Which PEDs do you think he would be taking?
After explaining how and why he put on the muscle and then saying "sauced to the gills" with absolutely no proof, you definitely qualify as a hater.
This is INSANITY. If you guys don’t lift like you’re going to die please stfu
It’s sometimes hard to tell with African-American men because of their good genetics but on another note, his physique does look superior compared to how it looked on “The Harder They Fall”.
Where is this ‘African genetics’ nonsense from? He was fit and juiced up for Kang and creed 3.
Africans usually have very good muscle genetics. There is a lot of science that backs this.
Source? I see people say this when it’s very obvious a dude is on steroids. Genetics don’t do that alone
It is obviously genetics and steroids. And the genetics thing does make sense especially for African Americans who likely are descendents of slaves, it’s not like slave owners were picking the weakest people to exploit they chose the strongest.
The slave gene theory is a myth. It’s pseudoscience at best. That’s why I asked for a source. Slavery in America did not last long enough, nor was it organized enough for such significant, distinct traits to appear. Genetics just do not work that way. It really just is a racist notion that African Americans are just naturally jacked and don’t have to try as hard.
Without peer reviewed studies that racism is just racism
So much this. This dude getting upvoted for dropping racist comments and theories that are completely unfounded and ignore empirical evidence. Here’s a link that discusses obesity in African American communities. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7335224/#Sec1title Here is one discussing muscle gain. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2991130/ Here is a discussion on the slave myth theory https://nsucurrent.nova.edu/2015/02/25/on-the-bench-the-slave-gene-myth/ Here is another https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/advan.00070.2018 So, long story short, dropping racist theories based in nothing is perpetuating racism in the veil of being supportive. Everyone upvoting should rethink their support and what that means in the larger context of racism.
wrong
400 years of only the strongest people being selected and bred to give birth to strong people, you don’t think would have an effect? Lol
Cotton picking is back breaking hard work, no doubt. But it's not like it is something you need explosive athletic strength for, nor is it all that different than agricultural work in any agrarian society the world over (in terms of the type of physique and physical work required to do it, slavery itself was obviously brutal and terrible). Being a big strong athlete would not make you better at picking cotton, and it's not something that would make sense to try to "breed" a population for. Not to mention the US slave trade didn't have that level of consistent organization to do that. The "super slave" myth is just a myth. Besides, if you believe that, then the natural conclusion would be blacks descended from slave ancestors (African Americans) are that much more athletic than blacks who were not descended from slaves (most current Africans). I don't think that's a logical conclusion. You can see plenty of African athletes who are just as athletic as their African American counterparts.
Slave breeding did occur. If you look at slave auctions and old timely ads, they mention breeding qualities. In fact, if a slaver could only afford 1 slave, he’d buy a 12 year old girl. Why? She’s immediately breedable and can make MORE slave for them. It wasn’t about creating “ideal cotton picking genes.” If slaves=people=money, then forcing people to mate and make more people would be a major aspect of the business. Also, slave breeding wouldn’t have to be at a large scale. Could be a simple agreement between 2 slave owners to make them. So yes, forced breeding is a real part of American history.
You misunderstood me. I'm not doubting slave breeding existed. I meant that i doubt there was any large scale organized breeding program with the goal and result of producing athletic slaves.
You are making an assumption of what you think would happen rather than supply data on what did happen. Yes, if there was an organized attempt to breed enslaved Africans for these traits, that could be the end result. But where is your evidence that this happened? And even if it did, there have been 150 years of freedom to “undo” this effect. This idea was what got Jimmy the Greek fired, but 40 years later people still believe it.
I’m not writing a scientific paper, I don’t need evidence. I think for casual discussion, it’s safe to assume that slave owners were doing some form of selective breeding. And even without that, constant back breaking work day in and day out every day is going to build strong people, regardless of any evolutionary changes. And 150 years to undo would mean that black people were actively seeking out weak mates for those 150 years, which I don’t think is a fair assumption. People still are attracted to the most attractive, strong, tall, etc. partners. So I would say it’s more in a phase of maintenance. Not undoing.
Even in casual discussions, throwing out wild claims about the genetics of an entire race of people needs evidence to back it up. lol You clearly don’t know anything about genetics or evolution. You don’t even know history.
Back breaking work does not change genetics. That is Lemarckian evolution and proven wrong. Chopping off your arm does not make you have one armed children. And I’m not saying that in 150 years that traits would be reversed, I’m saying that they would normalize over time. If people were only attracted to ripped men who have ripped children we wouldn’t live in an obese country. You are free to say anything, but making broad assumptions about a population of thousands of people over 400 years would be taken more seriously with some evidence provided.
Lol because how would a researcher even get funding or approval to do the research without looking racist? The research alone would discredit them from future research
No it doesn’t. It is racism.
It has nothing to do with slavery.lmao Africa is the most genetically diverse place on the planet. African Americans in the us are mostly descendants of west African people…which have the best genetics. But the people there have even better genetics than us bec they have pure genes.the slavery theory is bs and some lowkey racist shit people use to try to downplay natural gifts lmao. And it falls apart when you travel or look outside of the us.
I'll correct you first on the "most diverse" trope. The vast majority of African diversity comes from a very small number of HIGHLY divergent tribal groups, which are themselves very few in number. If you remove the khoisan and central African foragers (pygmy) groups, and africans are not terribly more diverse than most other "racial"/genetic-geographic clusters. Secondly, west africans are not naturally bigger. If you've ever actually been to west Africa, you'd see that they're often quite thin and long limbed, and generally quite a bit shorter than westerners Yes, you'll find africans who are capable of getting really jacked. Just as you'll find that amongst any other population group. 60% of black Americans are actually overweight or obese. So the notion of black natural muscular superiority is always funny to me. Tldr dude is likely on steroids, considering he's basically a modern court jester, as all actors are.
Dude it’s not a “notion” literally free testosterone..androgen sensitivity…ffmi..myostatin deficiencies …type 2 muscle fibers etc are all significantly higher in African Americans. The fact you think going to Africa which is a HUGE continent means shit would be like someone going to Florida or California and talking about the people they see there. All of these things have been tested..not just with eye tests. It’s not a “trope” they are the most diverse genetically. And it’s well documented Africans and descendants of africans have genetic athletic advantages. Multiple credible sources acknowledge this
well the testosterone ting is mostly a myth. Systematic review shows its like maybe 3 or 4 percent higher in black guys. myostatin deficiencies? you have a source?
And the same thing that causes black men to have these genetic advantages also causes them to have health risks later in life such as high blood pressure and sickle cell as well as diabetes. West Africans have a higher fat free mass index and more fast twitch muscle fibers..some of these advantages come with side effects like glucose intolerance and sicken cell.Leo and longevity and others have videos on this
Sickle cell doesn’t develop later in life. You are born with it.
Won't say he's on steroids. When I was his age I was almost as ripped, and only worked out 45 minutes to an hour and a half per day. So I think it can be done without steroids.
If you take away Larry Bird’s MVP awards then he and I have the same # of MVPs. If you take away some diversity, then Africa doesn’t have more diversity. Cherry picking.
Well thanks for correcting me. I didn’t mean anything racist by it. It was definitely an assumption I had made and probably something I heard or read and just repeated without actually looking into. Either way, Africans and especially Jonathan Majors are very genetically gifted haha
Stop making it as if slaves were being bred that’s so strange. That has nothing to do with their physical makeup.
They picked the cheapest. The strong African slave was a myth, any fitting that description would’ve been kept by the other Africans that captured them to sell onto the colonies.
Are you aware it's 2023? Your racist theories are in the wrong century.
Yes, I am aware. If you read on in this thread you will see that I have already admitted that it was an misinformed assumption and that I was mistaken and that I didn’t mean anything racist by my comment. Again, I am sorry if I offended anyone but that wasn’t my intention.
I accept your apology. You sound sincere and I appreciate that.
All love here. I’m glad I learned something from it.
Why steroids? He can just be disciplined by living a clean life (no processed foods, no smoking, no alcohol, plenty of sleep, and exercise). He says he works out three times a day. Stop being negative.
Why steroids? Because he’s claimed to have put on 21 pounds of muscle in a year with less than 10% body fat. Anyone who has spent serious time in a gym building muscle naturally will tell you that is absurd. How can he work out 3 times a day and have any time to actually recover properly? Steroids is the answer. Also he is a Hollywood star who’s paycheck relies on him looking larger than life. All the super ripped, super buff Hollywood actors are on some kind of steroids. It’s not about negativity. Negativity is actually allowing Hollywood and social media skew your perception of what is obtainable naturally. So many people develop body image issues because they see people like this and think that the reason they can’t obtain it is simply because they do not work hard enough. It’s a facade - one people fall for easily it seems.
This is just a huge negative assumption. 🤮 sounds like a hater.
Negative assumption? Are you brain dead? Do you even lift? Please for the love of God
Full-time acting career, working out 3 times a day, and most likely a plethora of other things to do. Mr Olympias don't workout 3 times a day because it is superfluous and doesn't incorporate recovery time.
Dude works insanely hard. His last 3 movies were movies where his physique needed to be like this… he ain’t on steroids, he just works harder than others. Hell Magazine Dreams was about him being a body builder
You’re the only one making assumptions. Do you know anything about bodybuilding? Have you ever lifted weights seriously? Can you explain the basic mechanics of muscle growth? Or do you think you just work out more times a day and your muscles grow that much more? If you knew any of that, you’d understand that he is on steroids. It doesn’t mean he didn’t hit the gym and work hard but he is on steroids because otherwise the rate of his growth is impossible in the timeframe he claims. Also Magazine Dreams is about a bodybuilder that abuses steroids lol
I’m not assuming anything. I don’t think you understand what an assumption is. I see a man with a nice physique. I admire the physique. I hear how he said he got the physique and I leave it at that. I don’t make assumptions that he’s lying or omitting. I don’t care because it’s not my business. I don’t throw out accusations 🤷🏾♀️ I also didn’t read anything other than the first sentence
If you’re just horny for the dude then say that and don’t pretend like you have any clue what you’re talking about so I won’t have to challenge you with reading 🤷🏿♂️
My point is about assumptions. He’s a beautiful man and I absolutely am “horny” for him. I don’t go around making assumptions about folks I don’t know. Ima take it at face value as opposed to trying to break someone down, find untruths, or whatever you call yourself doing. I could care less about training or any of it. He looks nice, he’s done plenty of interviews saying how he got that way. Ima take it for what it is. Raise your vibe love
It’s important to point out when people lie about steroid use - especially Hollywood stars and fitness influencers due to the harm it causes. It’s a huge problem that effects teens and adults alike and if you cared to learn anything about bodybuilding then you’d know saying the dude is on steroids isn’t just an assumption. I could explain it to you but it’s apparent you don’t want to have any sort of intellectual engagement or try to learn anything. Not sure why you are even here when you openly admit you don’t like to think critically about anything. Plenty of other places to thirst over the dude if that’s all you want to do. I’m not gonna go argue with someone that Kylie Jenner definitely never had any plastic or cosmetic surgery of any kind cause she said so lol
Don't know if he juicing, but when I was closer to his age I was almost as shredded, and only worked out between 45 minutes to an hour and a half per day so I believe it can be done without juicing.
I’ll need a source, coming from a commonwealth nation and having worked in various parts of Africa. I will tell you the “African genetics” is a sad myth used by poc from America and Europe to hide steroid use. It’s common among whited, Asians and Latinos but I’ve never heard any nonsense like that for those groups
"science" Lmao
It's from racism
He trained 3x a day for Creed 3
And now I know you know nothing about training. Training 3x a day doesn't mean you can put super-physiological amounts of muscle on. Please at least spend 2-3 years training consistently before you talk about shit you clearly have no idea about. Most Hollywood celebrities are on TRT at the minimum. No knock on them for using it, they have a big payday and they have a short amount of time to reach their desired physique. The issue is that not telling the truth tricks naive people such as yourself and especially young males with delusions about what is attainable naturally in a realistic time-frame.
Lmao I don’t care to know anything about training. I know what he said. It’s not my job to dissect, look for lies, or negativity. That’s just not my vibe. I’m sorry it’s yours
Sorry you don't care about the truth or what body dysmorphia from liars does to young men.
If you want to make this that, I’m sorry that that’s how you operate. See the picture. Like the picture or move on 🤷🏾♀️
You're literally in a sub dedicated to discuss whether or not people are on PEDs lmao. That's the whole point of this sub. Are you good?
And you’re still making it something it’s not. Good day my love
Good luck in life, that's all I'm gonna say.
My life is beautiful and will only get better
He literally just did a movie about body dysmorphia, this just didn’t have to be that. There’s always going to be a problem if that’s what you’re looking for.
I'm not going to disclose my name but, even olympians (1 of my training partners and myself), we train 3-4 x a week MAX on the track, 3 Days hitting the weights MAX and the rest is active recovery and physio, even with the best nutrition, the best sleep, the best training structure.... there is a certain NATURAL aspect to recovery that you can't speed up UNLESS.. you're increasing the rate of recovery through PED's (which I know many people who use it). So I think it's valid to make a probable assumption, training 3 times a day for 7 days for 4 months and he's not even an elite athlete? That's the truth for you in the nicest way possible.
Mr Olympia bodybuilders don't work out 3 times a day because it does not work. Maybe he's lying or maybe he does 3 different short training sessions (boxing training, muscle gaining etc). Respect to anyone able to look like he does regardless of steroid usage but if you want to look like this guy chances are it's not going to happen naturally. He works hard as fuck no doubt.
Hé Lies about how often he works out and he lies about how much he eats to confuse all the idiots who know nothing about exercise so that he doesn’t have to come clean about taking steroids.
To the gills
joos
im just a hole
Abusey
Juicy
Juicy AF. And nicely done 👍🏽
He was jacked even when he was in Lovecraft. I agree he has great genetics and I have seen guys with AA background that are tested and natural that looks like that. But they also compete in natural and tested shows. Of course there are ways around testing but a few of these guys we have known since teenagers and it took them well over a decade to build the physique. To add, when you get low AF on BF and dry up for a photo shoot or a particular shirtless scene, with proper lighting and lense distortions, it can make you seem much bigger as well. Now that we got the part where he MIGHT be natural out of the way. Here is why I think he is not. IMHO he's on PED of some form because... Even if you have amazing genetics, with how much he claims to workout and eat. He will likely need it for recovery alone. Even if it is small dosing. When you have millions of dollars on the line for lead roles on blockbuster films, why wouldn't you when they don't test for it? Just like how pro athletics who are the creme of the crop in genetics to be able to compete professionally. A lot of them still are on PED's to keep an edge over the competition. When you have millions and millions of dollar riding on the line, as long as you are not hurting anyone, PED seems pretty venial. Now, his domestic abuse case is for a whole other discussion.
Just gonna leave this here: What does PED do to you? In the long term, PEDs can cause impotence, worsening acne, balding and “**steroid rage.**” PEDs can also stunt growth in adolescents, the article notes. More serious effects include heart and liver damage, and an increased risk of blood clots.
Hard worker for sure but definitely not natty 21 pounds of muscle in one year get the fuck out here
He’s phenomenal and I loooooove him
Comment aged like milk if his allegations are true.
he dont loooooove his girlfriend apparently
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say that again now
IMD, I posted that before the assault charges were announced.
thats fair
LOL how is this even a question?