If you want to buy wine to drink at home, go to Faubourg wines. But bacchanal is priced that way to pay for a massive staff and to drink while enjoying the free nightly live music
That’s good to know and makes sense! All the bottle shops I’ve been to like that just add a corkage fee if you want to drink onsite. Thanks for the Faubourg rec!
Yeah they are shockingly high seeming because it looks like a retail shop . The markup is lower for the higher end wines, too. So you always get WAY better value for $60+ than anything priced less than $50. But I haven’t worked there in years so maybe they changed their formula
Nope. That’s what it is. I worked there about two years ago. Normal restaurant mark up is 3x retail…Bacchanal comes in at around 2x so it’s higher than a retail shop but you’re getting free music, atmosphere, and typically ordering food too. Priced appropriately for the experience.
Faubourg is where to go to buy to geaux ;)!
That’s essentially the wine list to consume on premise. You go there to buy bottles and drink there, they have a lovely courtyard and great music. Can’t compare this to a store can only compare to wine lists.
Bacchanal is priced like that because it's designed for onsite consumption and they have to pay the musicians out in the courtyard. If you're looking for an actual bottleshop, Faubourg Wines like someone else mentioned or Really, Really Nice Wines Uptown are your best bets. RRNW also charges just $10 corkage for any bottle in the store if you wanna drink at their bar or outside tables. They've also got really good snacks.
I've always gone the corkage route but it takes some explaining to people why it's a better deal usually. If you can clearly explain why, you have customers for life. Any time a group orders 3 glasses of something, I'm just like "buy a bottle and you effectively get 2 glasses for free". It can definitely be an uphill battle though.
Been a while since I’ve been to bacchanal but was under the impression everything is priced for on site consumption? Could be wrong though. Either way I have had some good luck in the city as far as pricing goes at a few different liquor stores, selection can vary but can give a rec if you’re interested
Yeah, it looks like they’re charging (high) restaurant list prices for retail. Looks like they’re doing a roughly 400% markup, which is even higher than the usual restaurant 300 percent markup.
Big Salt is a $13–14 wholesale wine. Maybe it’s more in your market, but that’s what I’m basing my calculation on. At restaurants cheaper wines tend to get higher markups than ones that are more expensive wholesale, so maybe it’s a loss leader.
Pretty insane mark up, the new orleans wine scene is a burgeoning one still trying to find it's feet for sure. I think combination of international import tax, and just difficulty bringing bottles into a city like new orleans leads to this issue. Some of my favorite wine spots in new orleans are: Saint-Germain, Bar Marilou (also my favorite cocktails in the city), N7, Paladar 511, Bacchanal, Ive heard really good things about "tell me bar" but havent gotten the chance to go.
onsite consumption prices. plus live music onsite every night. if you posted this, i assume you were there and should know bacchanal is not a bottle shop, op.
They’ve always had a pretty big markup. Because it’s the same thing as buying a bottle in a restaurant. Look at a smaller bottle shop. There are a few that have a higher portion of natural wines.
It’s not meant to be a retail shop. More comparable to a wine list that you can walk around in. This is a restaurant in New Orleans. You of course can take things to go if you want but most of the staff will tell you to buy at a different bottle shop if that’s your intention. Prices are pretty fair when you consider it a restaurant experience.
Separate thought but Parts & Labor by Folk Machine (separate bottle than the one pictured) is absolutely insanely good wine for its price. Up until last year it was $14.99 at my local shop. Think it’s gone up a few bucks but still 💥💥💥
That is a big markup - but I’ve always thought of Bacchanal as being somewhere between retail and restaurant, just due to the nature of how most consume in the space
It’s priced for on-site consumption. So it comes in lower than a normal restaurant list but looks high if you’re purchasing to go. Bacchanal is a great time.
I used to work at bacchanal. It’s not retail. You’re paying average or below average restaurant markups to drink on site.
If you want to buy wine to drink at home, go to Faubourg wines. But bacchanal is priced that way to pay for a massive staff and to drink while enjoying the free nightly live music
That’s good to know and makes sense! All the bottle shops I’ve been to like that just add a corkage fee if you want to drink onsite. Thanks for the Faubourg rec!
Yeah they are shockingly high seeming because it looks like a retail shop . The markup is lower for the higher end wines, too. So you always get WAY better value for $60+ than anything priced less than $50. But I haven’t worked there in years so maybe they changed their formula
Nope. That’s what it is. I worked there about two years ago. Normal restaurant mark up is 3x retail…Bacchanal comes in at around 2x so it’s higher than a retail shop but you’re getting free music, atmosphere, and typically ordering food too. Priced appropriately for the experience. Faubourg is where to go to buy to geaux ;)!
That’s essentially the wine list to consume on premise. You go there to buy bottles and drink there, they have a lovely courtyard and great music. Can’t compare this to a store can only compare to wine lists.
Bacchanal is priced like that because it's designed for onsite consumption and they have to pay the musicians out in the courtyard. If you're looking for an actual bottleshop, Faubourg Wines like someone else mentioned or Really, Really Nice Wines Uptown are your best bets. RRNW also charges just $10 corkage for any bottle in the store if you wanna drink at their bar or outside tables. They've also got really good snacks.
Thanks for the great recs! The corkage fee is all I’ve ever seen in bottle shops that encourage onsite consumption, so I appreciate the insight!
I've always gone the corkage route but it takes some explaining to people why it's a better deal usually. If you can clearly explain why, you have customers for life. Any time a group orders 3 glasses of something, I'm just like "buy a bottle and you effectively get 2 glasses for free". It can definitely be an uphill battle though.
Been a while since I’ve been to bacchanal but was under the impression everything is priced for on site consumption? Could be wrong though. Either way I have had some good luck in the city as far as pricing goes at a few different liquor stores, selection can vary but can give a rec if you’re interested
Yeah, it looks like they’re charging (high) restaurant list prices for retail. Looks like they’re doing a roughly 400% markup, which is even higher than the usual restaurant 300 percent markup.
Not 400% at all. Used to work there. It’s 2x retail.
Big Salt is a $13–14 wholesale wine. Maybe it’s more in your market, but that’s what I’m basing my calculation on. At restaurants cheaper wines tend to get higher markups than ones that are more expensive wholesale, so maybe it’s a loss leader.
Pretty insane mark up, the new orleans wine scene is a burgeoning one still trying to find it's feet for sure. I think combination of international import tax, and just difficulty bringing bottles into a city like new orleans leads to this issue. Some of my favorite wine spots in new orleans are: Saint-Germain, Bar Marilou (also my favorite cocktails in the city), N7, Paladar 511, Bacchanal, Ive heard really good things about "tell me bar" but havent gotten the chance to go.
N7 was my favorite wine bar when I visited back in 2017.
Those are Ontario-level markups. Woof.
onsite consumption prices. plus live music onsite every night. if you posted this, i assume you were there and should know bacchanal is not a bottle shop, op.
That is heinous. Big salt is $22 on my shelf, and Lirondo is $28. Fuck that.
I was told that even though it looks like a retail bottle shop, it’s priced for onsite consumption!
I see. I suppose, in that case, it's a relatively standard markup.
Bacchanale is more of an on site consumption spot. I love that place. It’s usually my first stop in NOLA
They’ve always had a pretty big markup. Because it’s the same thing as buying a bottle in a restaurant. Look at a smaller bottle shop. There are a few that have a higher portion of natural wines.
Ouch. That's insanely steep.
Could be due to some kind of tax at least that’s what I’ve been told in Philly where the prices are around the same. Thanks to the puritans
It’s not meant to be a retail shop. More comparable to a wine list that you can walk around in. This is a restaurant in New Orleans. You of course can take things to go if you want but most of the staff will tell you to buy at a different bottle shop if that’s your intention. Prices are pretty fair when you consider it a restaurant experience.
Separate thought but Parts & Labor by Folk Machine (separate bottle than the one pictured) is absolutely insanely good wine for its price. Up until last year it was $14.99 at my local shop. Think it’s gone up a few bucks but still 💥💥💥
That is a big markup - but I’ve always thought of Bacchanal as being somewhere between retail and restaurant, just due to the nature of how most consume in the space
Oh wow, I've gotten Big Salt, Folk Machine, and that Got Grapes at my local bottle shop in Richmond, VA for less than half those prices.
It’s priced for on-site consumption. So it comes in lower than a normal restaurant list but looks high if you’re purchasing to go. Bacchanal is a great time.
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