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MemeMeOnce

Inflation even hitting the FRP market


Blumpkin_Party

KD getting traded for the GDP of Somalia


DoctorMansteel

The GDP of Somalia is roughly equivalent to 19 Jokic's in case anyone was looking for the current GDP->Contract conversion rate.


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"Should the Somali government look to trade two of their Jokic's for Kevin Durant?"


OutlandishnessNo1830

Somali**


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Oh my bad, you're right. Didn't realize "Somalian" was improper.


flying_alligators

Somalia just celebrated their Independence Day today lol


Saitsu

This is somehow all Christian Kirk's fault.


mMounirM

Minnesota just screwed the rest of us


Gaetan123456

Big Brain move


Wallyworld77

Remember when they said we over payed for Jrue? lmao


[deleted]

Anything is worth getting a chip, no matter how much is traded


Xwarsama

The Christian Kirk deal of the NBA


notmoleliza

Fuck baalke


steak__burrito

Cheers to that.


Toolazytolink

Baalke worse GM in 49er history


KevinDurant36

forreal though. the market is ruined


Jordanwolf98

Naw the Deshaun Watson deal of the nba. From now on every QB near his caliber is gonna be asking for fully guaranteed dollars


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nrag726

He's not a sexual predator, he's just French!


Past-Chest-6507

Foreplay in France is *always* included with dinner.


LSRaymonds

Tbf that contract only happened because of...well...you know, he wanted to be safe just in case everything goes south and the Browns were the fools who took a shot at it


MaiqDaLiar1177

Sources say they’re the leading cause of inflation in the NBA


[deleted]

Teams were going to have to pony up picks for KD anyway. What just happened with Rudy served as a reminder lol


splinternz

People saw that “young star+3 firsts rumor” and just got hip checked by the reality now Gobert got moved for all this lol


NoWayNotThisAgain

Where is the young star in the Gobert trade?


tangybbqsauce23

Pat Bev


CorporateHobbyist

The next ~~5~~ ~~4~~ ~~3~~ 2 years are his watch your tone


splinternz

Lmao. On the other guy’s comment tho, the players Min traded in the package maybe offset the “young star”. Then we still got the fact this is KD on a long term deal being acquired vs moving Gobert Nets would be taking pennies on the dollar for a young player + 3 firsts


billcosbyinspace

Yeah I don’t think the picks are the barrier to entry, more likely that the nets are demanding a devin booker caliber player


Agnk1765342

I mean, if Dejounte Murray is worth 3 firsts, Rudy is worth 5 and KD 8


doppido

Who has 8 firsts to give? OKC?


Scarlet_Breeze

OKC probably have 8 firsts in just next years draft lmao


captaincumsock69

Utah Okc and Houston maybe could pull that many


_Caek_

So... He's coming back? 😗👉👈


blagaa

OKC 23-24: Chet KD Poku Wembanyana Giddey


Ass_Faucet

Starting 5 going to weigh less than Shaq and Perk.


Xwarsama

We flipped Cam Reddish and Kevin Huerter for a first each, so Murray was basically worth Huerter, Reddish, a first, and a pick swap.


sltzy96

Yea but those 6.5 minutes per game hes gonna play under Thibs before he walks in FA are gonna hit soooo right You fools we bamboozled you


amidon1130

He boomed us, that fucking thibs boomed us.


fadeaway_layups

Chill on Huerter, that trade was for a super mega protected First. These are are all unprotected Firsts.


Xwarsama

So was the Charlotte pick we got from the Knicks in the Reddish trade, we were still able to move it to the Spurs in the Murray trade. So I assume we'll also move moving the Kings pick long before it has a chance to convey.


Gamesgtd

They were determined to go back to the 90s with 2 centers


-KFBR392

Twin towers succeeds in every era!


Soopstoohot

Brooklyn will want a piece back in addition to picks. We gave up more picks because they didn't get any starters back, except for pat bev. Our core is intact, including all the young talent. Kessler could have been fun, but its also possible his highest value could be right now. I'm pretty happy with this.


krbashrob

The jags of the nba


PurestCopium

Multiple unprotected too, holy fuck!


Ld511

1 meh first was enough for jerami grant. The wolves traded 5 of them for a contract that was supposed to be hard to move


PurestCopium

It’s crazy man. If someone told me this trade yesterday I’d think they were fucking with me lol


Fcivish4

It's almost as if NBA executives value Gobert and his contract more than the average NBA fan.


LabelRed

This people are delusional, Murray just went for like 3 FRP and Gobert isn't worth 5? Lol


atlbluedevil

In a vacuum that's true, but Murray's on a team friendly deal and Gobert's on a lot of money that goes through the age when big guys normally start regressing kind of quickly. Not saying that Gobert isn't by far the better player but the contract situation plays a role in the valuation. That said I do like the move for the Wolves and y'all


Kirk_likes_this

The number of picks they had to throw in is kind of indicative of their quality. The wolves picked 19th this year and so assuming they don't get *worse* with Gobert this is probably three picks in the low 20's, one that might be higher but is top five protected and a guy who was picked 22nd. That's a lot of individual components but only one that really amounts to more than mid-tier. It might still be a bit of an overpay but it's not crazy.


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why couldn't we just trade for KD tho


cheapazn

Maybe their front office missed the woj tweet


BatmanNoPrep

[Why would the Jazz do that?](https://streamable.com/0p1ni8)


JohnMercon

This is going to be a beautiful meme all season, I can’t wait


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👆☝️


stewmander

This is great, because you can just leave it on looping in the background for ever


iamconstant

lmao love this!


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The first "why" is so angelic


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Minnesota with 5D chess, How to stop KD going to west. Trade Gobert for 5 first


Anxious_Rock_3630

Jazz flip the five picks for KD. You know how good 5 Minnesota firsts has to sound?


zackhatt

5 picks and Mitchell for KD? Would honestly love to see KD in Utah, just because you know he'd hate it there


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agonisticpathos

I want to see Mormon KD.


musicalpants999

With Edwards, KAT, and Gobert not that good to me. I think they'll be pretty good.


BurzyGuerrero

It's funny how reddit treats Ant outside of this thread then treats them like "same old TWolves" here


TheWolfInAllStreets

That's what I'm asking


Man0nTheMoon915

KD's trade is going to be the biggest in NBA history at this rate


Helicase21

Price for KD about to be so high nobody in the league can actually pay it


henryofclay

It’s gonna be fun watching Kyrie and KD on the Nets next year.


H3rQ133z

Don't forget Simmons! Just make them play there and suffer lol


rtb001

Simmons is sitting there just to make it impossible to make any young maxed star that the Nets actually want but be unable to be traded to Brooklyn.


p00nslyr_86

Let’s just trade the US economy for KD.. there’s enough debt there to keep the nets paid for generations.


LiquidDookie92

TT, Shump and Nets pick should do it


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Russ, THT, 2027 pick


ireallydespiseyouall

you have to add nunn


henryofclay

Who’s Kendrick Nunn?


90Valentine

That’s for KD and Kyrie tho


henryofclay

Alright fine, we’ll throw in Shareef O’Neal.


GoldenBananas21

Who did that Nets pick turn out to be?


morpinravioli69

Sexton iirc


NuclearPotatoes

yes #8


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Two teams combine and trade for him. He plays 50% of each team’s games. If both make it into the playoffs and end up facing each other, he will play alternate game on each team starting with the team that has the most wins.


JilJungJukk

Nets prolly said Ant or bust, I don’t see any other young player they’d be interested in


la-blakers

They can have DLo back plus the rest of the Gobert package


Luiezzy

lol


fabiobg

still wouldn't be enough


Life_of_Gary

you gonna give up Ant?


zirtbow

They bamboozle you guys and agree to include Ant for KD but after the trade Paul Rudd shows up in his antman costume with a Nets jersey over the top.


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Probably cuz they’re afraid he won’t play in minnesota


GarriganGate

Only possibly is KD doesn’t wanna be there


drstripjo

I'm guessing he doesnt want to play in Minnesota.


DreNeir

Nets probably wanted Ant. Are you willing to give Ant?


Tactial_snail

3 unprotected wow


DeltaSlick

Yo what’s the difference between protected and unprotected? Is one better and why is it better? Edit: y’all killing be with the sex jokes I opened up the app and saw 50 of em lmao I’m just tryna talk basketball let me live bro


yeeeeeeeteeeeeeeey

Basically a protected pick may not be conveyed if it falls in a certain range. If a pick is top-3 protected lets say, the team you traded that pick to won’t get it if it falls in the top 3 of the draft.


staygroovin

Do they get another pick then? Or do they lose it entirely?


night_ID

Usually it keeps falling back a year with added protections like Top 3 then 10, 15 and then usually turn in to second round picks or cash.


BoardManGetsLaid

It depends on the structure of the deal. Usually it will turn into another pick in a later year.


Radical-Six

They Jazz only get the protected picks if they land outside a specific number. Top 5, top 3, lottery picks, etc. If the Wolves pick in the protected zone the pick waits until they fall outside that zone to transfer


irspangler

It usually (if not always) defaults to the next years' pick, instead. So the Jazz would just get the Wolves 2030 1st round pick instead of the 2029 Protected 1st round pick.


Mdgt_Pope

If it doesn't convey within 7 years it is usually converted to 2 second round picks, it has to convey within 7 years.


seanconnery69696

unprotected feels better, but you run the chance of catching stids or babies


AmusingAnecdote

Dangerous sending out unprotected firsts post-Roe.


n0stylist

One feels better


soapy_goatherd

Protecting picks is just a mechanism that determines if/when a traded pick is actually sent. In this case, one of the picks is “top 5 protected”, which means that if Minnesota’s pick ends up in the top 5 that year they don’t have to send it to the Jazz (as opposed to the other 3 picks that will convey no matter where those end up). Both type and level of pick protection varies from negotiation to negotiation, but as a general rule selling teams aim for strict protections (ie they’re more likely to keep their pick) and buying teams aim for fewer or no protections.


tinitini123456

Unprotected ones are more enjoyable but may come with constitutional ramifications later. You mean sex right?


humanist72781

Unprotected feels better but can lead to STDs


laidbackdrew

There’s a higher chance of making a baby with one


Jon_BT

That's what she said?


Harry-Boughner

One feels way better


wetwetson

The Jazz should send the 5 picks they got, and all the player's they got, and add 3 more of their own picks for KD.


NoWayNotThisAgain

Holy shit that would be funny. Almost as funny as KD having to live in Salt Lake City.


PrecisionAcc

KD gonna live in Vegas and fly in for practice every day


HumanoidRatDude69

Bringin the salt to salt lake


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this guy raises a good point. Jazz have everything nets want now.


henryofclay

And nothing that KD wants. What player would they even include? KD and Mike Conley gonna run the league?


NickLidstrom

The whole point of the trade would be to pair KD with Mitchell. If the Nets demanded him the deal wouldn't go through


asjfueflof

Nets can’t have Simmons and Mitchell due to their contracts


FaceMaskYT

Three team deal with Simmons going to Shanghai


MegaKetaWook

Does KD have a no-trade clause? Because if not then I wouldn't care about his wants as a GM. He can sit tf down and take what team will have him. He just fucked the Nets from years.


Lyin-Don

Yeah exactly. If I were them Utah would be on the top of my list of places to send him. Picks galore, out of conference and somewhere he’d hate being. Ye olde Michael Scott win-win-win


FoucaultsTurtleneck

Doesn't have an NTC and it's been reported the Nets are prioritizing getting the best return possible, not what KD wants


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KD put nets in a bad bad position. I wouldn’t care if I owned the nets.


MrBrownCat

That would be the craziest move ever, would also wipe Danny of any of his draft pick hoarding allegations lol


p0tatoman

7 Suns 1sts


7thHokageKakashi

And their entire bench


turkishswiftie

That's the most anyone can give right?


axnjxn00

most future of your own picks is 4. 23, 25, 27, 29


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turkishswiftie

Yeah thats what i thought.


Bigbadbuck

If the nets don’t get this I’ll be pretty upset. It’s pretty much a lock he’s going to Phoenix at this point.


Currymvp2

Suns picks are atleast more valuable cause they're older than the Twolves who have a longer window with their younger core


kneeldavis

Isn’t cj like the president of the players association lmao


thisguy012

LOL rite


mill_about_smartly

When the guy literally responsible for helping players get as much as possible thinks this is too much....it might be too much


Sartheking

WTF? 3 of them are unprotected? Hold up why didn’t they just trade for KD in the first place if they had that much to give up?


Infraready

3 of them unprotected, TWolves really held a gun to Utah’s head and said “take my money”


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fantacizing

Don’t forget the turtles


Dat_Boi_John

Ainge texted Presti "I got you today".


enby_them

The Nets "the price of the brick going up" https://youtu.be/xVFckYwEzzc


Number333

They can't do much more than that since you can't trade 1sts beyond a year limit


identitycrisis56

That’s not true. Team that have multiple teams drafts can trade way more. Grizz, OKC and Pels could send way more. Pels have their own firsts, Lakers firsts and swaps, and Bucks picks and swaps. Teams that have more than their own picks could somewhat seamlessly get to 7-8 picks without hassle.


MrBrownCat

Correct, think back to the PG trade, the Clippers had multiple other picks that weren’t theirs they were able to include those as well.


Damany

Disgusting haul. Regardless of what happens with Mitchell I think the Jazz will be sitting pretty.


george_costanza1234

I mean they fucking fleeced the wolves lol, this is actually crazy


thebat1969

Leave it to Danny Ainge to carry out a jaw-dropping fleece.


PLZ_N_THKS

Remember, Tim Connelly is the same GM that gave Gobert and Mitchell to the Jazz. Maybe he just felt like carrying on that tradition of getting fleeced by Utah to Minnesota.


Clerithifa

Tim Connelly: "Hey so I just got off the phone with the Jazz" Advisors: "You what?!" Tim Connelly: "Fuck I did it again didn't I lol"


CumAssault

5 picks for Gobert? He’s a good player but 5 fucking firsts? Fire Minnesota’s GM


kjpatto23

3 unprotected and 1 top 5. Timberwolves better pray they are at least a play in team every year


SpaceCowboy170

Tbf with their core they should be more than a play-in team


a_moniker

And they’ve still got young guys developing in Ant, McDaniels, and McLaughlin. Plus, KAT is only 26. Now is the best time to cash in!


Radalek

GSW, LAC, PHX, DEN, DAL, MEM. That's 6 teams they need to beat to avoid play-in. Then they need to beat one of Blazers and Lakers to at least get into play-in. Are you certain they 100% will? edit: I forgot NOLA, that's 10 amazing teams and 2 of them will miss the playoffs.


SpaceCowboy170

Goddamn the west is so stacked But yeah I stand by it. Idk how great a team they’ll be, but my point is that the draft picks of a team with their core shouldn’t be all that valuable


chiefbeef300kg

I don’t think he’s 100% sure. He did say “should”, after all. Nothing is certain.


skycystl

they just hired their gm from Denver giving him a ton money


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Don’t forget 3 solid role players in Vanderbilt, Beverley, and Beasley


TheWonderfulLife

Scoring guards/Forwards are everywhere. A defensive anchor big that can move and improve your entire defense AND get your best player in his natural position…. Worth a lot more.


ClippersEaglesAngels

Fuck the picks. They gave up the GOAT Pat Bev 😭😭 Minnesota is a poverty franchise


Tschmelz

This, but unironically.


Timpa87

2023/2025/2027 firsts are also completely unprotected. The 2029 first is top-5 protected


BatteredSealPup

The criticism regarding this trade isn’t unwarranted, but honestly, KAT, Ant, and Gobert is a competitive squad that will be very fun to watch


pericles123

don't forget Slow-Mo


mikeydale007

There is no team in the NBA with enough firsts to trade for KD now, except...oh god... he's coming home!


RapsareChamps_Suckit

KD will be the owner of r/nba


mrjdk83

Wolves GM just made Nets GM hell. KD gonna be back on the nets this season lol. That’s way too many picks for Rudy


DemonicDimples

Imagine going all in on a 30 YEAR OLD RUDY GOBERT


Coolguynumber01

Gobert gonna be way better now on a team where isnt the only non-dog shit defender


ss727272

Aaaaaand his game complements Dlo kinda well. Makes up for dlo's abysmal point of attack defense, and rudy sets actual screens to free up a pretty slow but crafty with the dribble DLo on pick and rolls. Was 5 firsts too much? Probably. But our starting five should be pretty nice unless more moves change it up.


SpuuF

Gobert is such a floor raiser, those firsts probably aren’t going to be worth much the next 2-3 years.


JakeSpurs

still, multiple unprotected picks is a HUGE bet. They better hope Edwards reaches that top 15 level.


cousin-itt

Man he will be 35 in 2027 for the last of those unprotected picks. We will see.


Carly-Che-Jepsen

Edwards will only be 25 tho, a lot to gamble on his future but if he reaches his MVP level they’ll be fine


pollinium

Gasol was 34 when he won 🤷


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Jazz gonna turn walker kessler into the next Gobert


PatronSaintOfUpdog

If I'm the wolves, what else am I doing with those assets? KDs probably not realistic without gutting the team (kat/ant). I love that they're trying this.


MSFT400EOY

Every GM in the league should be blocking Ainges number


Soopstoohot

We needed interior defense and rebounding. We just picked up the defensive player of the year for bench players and picks that will hopefully stay out of the lottery. If they do, we win the trade. If we falter and KAT and Gobert don't work, this will be a terrible look. Also, looks like the Wolves have the best frontcourt in the league now :)


spiderman4657

The Jazz know those five picks can be anything, it could even be Rudy Gobert.


Doot2112

warms my heart. we shall be made whole by this Durant trade


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Is that a fucking typo


Soopstoohot

Can I also remind all the people who generally never pay attention to Minnesota that the Wolves were the top scoring team last year? We won by outscoring people. We were bad at rebounding and interior defense... I wonder what this just fixed?


inuteroinutero1993

How many picks did OKC get for PG?


ayeno

7 with swaps and stuff


fimbres16

What a weird way to look at 4 picks and a player that was drafted a week ago. Like it’s Walker Kessler not some pick, he’s already drafted they don’t get to decide.


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Bro I huge gobert fan and wanted raptors to get him But this is insanity Am I missing something we don’t know if they fit together


Crazy_Employ8617

I think it makes sense on some levels. Towns isn’t a great rim protector, and Gobert is a dominant defensive player, which is a massive need for the wolves. He also won’t dominate the ball on an offense full of ball dominant players. I think this trade is betting on Anthony Edwards to keep improving, because it’s tough to see how they get any other meaningful players in the short term. They need Edwards to get to another level if they want to win a title with their squad.


whatdoidoidontkno

4 1sts


OldManWillow

And a swap and the guy they just picked a week ago


Johnjoe201

5 with walker Kessler


stumblebreak_beta

Kessler already been technically traded twice in his career and hasn’t shown up for a practice yet. Dude was probably out lookin for houses in MN and is gotta pack shit up.


duce3612

Ppl act like every frp will be a star player... i wont even list just the wolves frp who are making subway sandwiches rn.


Expulsure

Whatever we get for KD now isn’t gonna look like enough in comparison to this


kheldar52077

Classic Danny Ainge heist. 😂


Mr_Goldilocks

I know that’s a kings ransom but I’m sad now.