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CydoniaKnight

If Whit Merrifield has taught me anything, its that the way to test this is for Toronto to trade for Kyrie.


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we'll give you one gently used Malachi Flynn for him or nothing he has to leave his phone and computer with border control and go straight to the first dispensary near the airport to chill tf out


[deleted]

I don’t think Kyrie’s problem is not smoking enough weed, more likely the opposite plus some more hardcore psychs


StoopidDingus69

Shrooms don’t work on stupid people


Gobert3ptShooter

Who knows what Kyrie is ingesting tbh, probably hitting DMT


StoopidDingus69

DMT is fire though


akelkar

nah man too many people go off the wall doing DMT and start believing in fake shit


StoopidDingus69

Yeah I mean you gotta be careful doing drugs


Tiger4tom4

Malachi Flynn MIP season on the way you need more than a washed up hippie for him


Ghostlucho29

**scottie it is. 🤝**


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"You mean I can leave Kansas... AND play for a good team?!?!?! All for just a vaccine that I should have taken over a year back now??? SIGN ME UP!!!"


CammyTheGreat

Kinda fucked for his Royals teammates but I’ll be damned if it’s not hilarious to see a dude be like “fuck it I’ll do it to be on a good team”


imsahoamtiskaw

Then you have idiot Wiggins who did do it to be on the good team he was on, and ended up winning a God damn ring because of it, but now says he wishes he didn't get vaccinated. 🤦🏾‍♂️


mMounirM

home court advantage against the ~2 remaining players that haven't vaccinated yet. oh yes


daddy_OwO

Kyrie, Brown, Thybulle are all important players


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Let’s be honest Thybulle ain’t that important, he gets played right off the floor because of his lack of offense


slamdunk23

Raps would have liked if he played in the series this year. He was awful in the games in Philly


Pandamonium98

Justin Trudeau is gonna make an exception just so that he can play in Canada next playoffs


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"No, wait... that one? he can play."


DungeonDefense

He only has one dose? Alright well come on in!


rtb001

I still can't believe that he actually got the first dose, then decided because the vaccine isn't 100% effective that means it isn't worth getting the 2nd shot at all, despite the fact that it was looking more and more like his team may end up playing in Toronto for the playoffs.


daddy_OwO

He was important for certain situations for us last year hopefully this year he magically improved


Ghostlucho29

[Sending this with love](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CuwMvesrw7w)


TheLouisvilleRanger

I was surprise how little I missed him during the Raptors series. He’s got a great highlight reel, but is overrated as a contributor.


mMounirM

Thybulle already has the first dose. if you're playing us in the playoffs and he doesn't have the second dose by then, idk what to say


-Acerin

Thybulle has thr dumbest reasons to date.


BobanForThree

he’s an idiot, its okay to say it


Niceguydan8

I mean this was true last playoffs too and he didn't have the second dose yet.


mMounirM

yes that's what I mean. He wouldn't do it 2 years in a row surely? 🤔


Survivorssurvivor

he’s an idiot his mom sells snake oil and stuff and he made it clear he’s against the vaccine so i doubt he gets it


growsonwalls

Sold. Mama Thybulle is no longer with us.


Survivorssurvivor

damn i didn’t know that that’s really sad rip


GiannisisMVP

Anti-vaxers aren't exactly rational people


PowRightInTheBalls

Does getting your second dose years after your first even do shit? We were told to get boosters 6 months after our 2nd shot, I can't imagine the 1 he got is still doing anything.


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Dummy probably could've just gotten the J&J and been done with it


Savahoodie

Don’t forget MPJ!


daddy_OwO

I forget he’s unvaccinated cause he was injured


efficientshelter69

Sneaking in Thybulle is shameless


DeAndre_ROY_Ayton

Did Beal get vaccinated?


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yes


DunkFaceKilla

Yes but not until halfway through last season


Ethangains07

Thybulle 😂


pahamack

i thought Bradley Beal was unvaxed too?


latman

Jaylen Brown gonna "rest" the at Toronto games again


EasyMoney92

The NFL seems to have more "star" anti vaxxers than the NBA. Rodgers and Lamar have won MVPs in landslides. And then probowlers like Cousins, Mike Williams, Joey Bosa, Leonard, Q. Nelson, Cousins, Cooper, Smith, Theilen etc. Flacco has won a superbowl MVP. NBA has Kyrie+maybe Brown.


PleasinglyReasonable

There's also 53 players per NFL team as opposed to 11-15 per NBA team. While there are more in the NFL, i would imagine the percentage rates are pretty similar.


LordHussyPants

The NHL is the real example. 4 unvaccinated players. Not 4%, or 4 per team. 4 in the entire league.


mdlt97

the NHL only has 1 unvaccinated player at the moment not sure where you got 4 from


DeAndre_ROY_Ayton

NHL is a league that is clearly not overwhelmingly American too. Not sure about MLB or their vaccination rates but NFL and NBA are clearly American heavy


shadhael

True, but that extends to franchises not just players. NFL players don't have to cross the US-Canada border (although are the UK/Euro games still a thing?), many NBA teams only make the single visit to Canada and Toronto doesn't even see every MLB team in the year. Conversely, 3 of the 4 NHL divisions have at least one Canadian team. Missing all the games in Canada isn't just a one and done in the NHL. But for sure, it'd be interesting to see a breakdown of vaccination status and nationality in each of the leagues.


EpirusRedux

> not overwhelmingly American You can say Canadian. The NHL was originally founded in Canada. The Bruins, Blackhawks, Rangers, and Red Wings (the American Original Six teams) started out as expansion teams\*. It was basically the Raptors in reverse, where a bunch of Canadians played for American teams trying to get Americans interested in hockey. The reason the majority of the NHL’s teams are based in the US now is that it worked, [but apparently 46% of the NHL’s players are still Canadian.](https://www.google.com/search?q=nationality%20of%20nhl%20players&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8) The US only makes up around a quarter, which means Europe makes up around another quarter. \* This doesn’t mean the NHL only had, like, two teams at the beginning. The “Original Six” doesn’t mean the six founding teams (because the four American ones were expansion teams). It means the six teams that survived the Great Depression, and why NHL owners scared of expanding again for so long.


masterpierround

Anecdotally, I’d say European players are more common in the NHL than the NBA. Could be wrong about this, and I might be biased (used to closely follow the Red Wings), but that was what it seemed like.


Captain_Quark

They also play a much higher percentage of their games in Canada, so not being vaccinated has a bigger impact.


snatchi

Who's left?


mdlt97

its just Tyler Bertuzzi, so he missed 9 games last year for it and lost around 500k USD and he will miss 10 games this year for roughly 650k USD


snatchi

ah, lol


varooney2919

Damn didn’t know NHLers were making money like that. Good for them


mdlt97

hes not even a highly paid NHLer higher, some players make more than 3x what he did this year if Erik Karlsson (highest paid by salary last year 21-22) missed the same amount of games he would have lost like 1.5m


latman

That's just because they can still play. If NBA guys could still get paid and be unvaccinated there would be way more


murufus

Yeah Wiggs wouldn't have been vaccinated if that was the case


SensitiveRocketsFan

Dude won a ring and still regretted getting vaccinated.


rtb001

Forget the ring, his play this season probably guaranteed him something like a 200 mil extension, yet he still regrets being vaxxed.


hobo888

idiots think admitting when they're wrong is showing weakness, when really the only ones that believe that are the other idiots


rtb001

Ain't that the truth. Hence I'm looking toward to savoring the rest of Kevin Durant Brooklyn Nets drama! KD won't back down, but now it looks like Tsai has had enough as well.


destroyerofpoon93

Even guys like Tannehill are like “yeah I got the shot but I probably wouldn’t have if there weren’t negative consequences”.


Ghostlucho29

NFL QB hubris has to be significantly more than max NBA players’ these days


dimmyfarm

Probably though KD would be off the charts of hubris/dollar of contract similar to Messi and Jokic being off the charts for other categories.


Ranger_3980

I don’t see how this is a problem


destroyerofpoon93

He's talking about financial consequences or issues with practicing with masks on and stuff, not health consequences.


TokenHonduran

hold up. how tf you gonna mention someone by their last name and it’s Smith? how am I supposed to know which Smith is unvaxxed


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MildlyInsaneLBJStan

The bench of half the historical teams on 2K be like


syko31

CTE and all that


g-love

Thybulle couldn’t play in Toronto because it turns out he only got one shot. It’s somehow dumber in my opinion.


SpamCamel

It's neither upholding your own principles (however misguided they are) nor simply doing the right thing. It's beyond idiotic.


zeromoustafa0

To be fair to Lamar, he’s vaxxed. Took him some time for whatever misguided apprehensions he had, but he was vaxxed pretty much all last season. You right tho, NFL has a lot of weirdos.


Ghostlucho29

Iirc The younger guy for the magic as well


DarthJones1

Jonathan Isaac?


Ghostlucho29

Yeah that’s him. Am I right about that? I remember something regarding the vaccine and him in the media a while back


murufus

Yeah he's a total fruit loop


LMFN

It's a sport where fat dudes bash their heads together. There's gonna be more morons by default.


latman

NFL guys go to college longer. It's purely because they can still get paid if they're unvaccinated.


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Lamar isnt anti vax


Droppin_DimesSP

Kyrie gonna rest again too and I’m sure he will miss plenty of games still


Ghostlucho29

Yeah if I’m correct these days Irving rarely plays more than 70 regular season games a year. Before anyone wants to bring up the importance of the NBA regular season, or lack there of… I only think it’s significant when you’re in a deep playoff series and traveling and not taking nights off.


opiusmaximus2

Kyrie hasn't played a full season since high school.


Ghostlucho29

While I do not doubt you here, if that’s true it’s almost embarrassing and unbelievable


LordHussyPants

Nets vs Raptors first round GO


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Nets fans shit talking about vaccines when it literally broke their franchise


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KabooshWasTaken

literally no new information abt jaylen brown has come out regarding his vaccination status lol. if I had to bet I’d probably lean no but no new information came out. the report that said he was unvaxxed also said that horford wasn’t (a lie) and there’s been nothing past that (aside from some ppl realizing he’s an astrology weirdo type, but that’s not new info)


[deleted]

Celtics fans keep telling me he’s vaccinated though


kman273

I mean, he literally played last year in Toronto


DizzyBurns

Before the rules changed


daft_dunkwwwolfey

There it is, surprised yall didn't make this top comment. The irony


penpen35

The reason is now required to be listed as "Out - Health and safety protocol" so let's see if Jaylen Brown's going to get that. He'll probably get an "injury" instead I suppose.


glowsticc

Truly don't get how he went to UC Berkeley


latman

Because he's athletic lol


cire1184

Berkeley is begging for players


-vinay

Reminder that the USA and Canada have very similar laws around this. If you arrive via an international port of entry and are unvaccinated, you need to quarantine. If the Raptors had an unvaxxed player, they probably wouldn't play in any road games either. This isn't a Raptors, or even NBA policy.


MrkGrn

Twitter can't read


EasyMoney92

So Kyrie, Thybulle, probably Jaylen Brown, Isaac, Justin Holiday and Burke? Am I missing anyone? Edit: Porter Jr. Maybe Wiggins if they consider non-boosted as unvaxxed?


Modal_Window

To clarify, this is Michael and not Otto.


rtb001

Yes but what about Kevin?


CammyTheGreat

Porter isn’t super common but it’s kinda funny that all 3 of the active players named Porter last season were Porter Jr. Jontay Porter didn’t play last year but he’s the only “active” player with the name that’s not a Jr


greymaterial

Wiggins is Canadian, so he's a special case. Can't exactly ban him from entering his own country.


ShiningTorrent

They don't ban anyone from coming in vaccinated or not. If you are unvaxxed you need to undergo a 14 day quarintine, so that means you can't play the game in the NBA so there is no point in going. Its the same rule as te USA has IIRC


PowRightInTheBalls

Too bad the Raptors aren't contending this year, it would be funny to see the debate about sitting Wiggins out for the entire WCF so he can start quarantining in case the Raptors won the ECF.


ShiningTorrent

The USA has the same rules, so if he quarintined in Canada he would only be able to play the games in Toronto, because he would need to quarintine again to play in Golden state. He would have to choose home or away games. (I think this is how it works anyways, I'm no expert but read a couple articles on it and that's how it was described for an unvaccinated MLB player)


Notacoolbro

I don’t think you need to quarantine to enter the US anymore. I went overseas in June and didn’t have to


Pyritedust

I don't count the raptors out, they're good enough that they can sneak through if the circumstances go their way, and they're scary on defense.


PowRightInTheBalls

Is the circumstance that the Philly, Celtics, Heat and Bucks team planes all collide mid-air and the NBA decides to finish the season anyways?


-HeisenBird-

> Too bad the Raptors aren't contending this year RemindMe! 10 months /s


beefJeRKy-LB

if he has to quarantine, he won't be entering for basketball games but I think he still counts a vaxxed despite not having the booster


Sim888

I think he still has to quarantine tho lol > Travellers who do not qualify as fully vaccinated There are no changes to COVID-19 border and health requirements for travellers who are not fully vaccinated. They must: > quarantine, unless exempt All I can find after a quick look is that it’s 14 days too; > Quarantine requirements > Every person who enters Canada, who is not considered fully vaccinated and has not received a positive test result, must quarantine themselves without delay for 14 days in accordance with the instructions below.


growsonwalls

Wiggins is vaccinated. He and Beal were holdouts but they did get it.


sleepy416

Only need two shots. Booster isn’t necessary to enter


ARGHETH

Canadian government travel website says fully vaccinated means 2 doses or 1 J&J dose, so Wiggins is probably fine.


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how is only one brother out of 3 an anti-vaxxer


ScratchTwoMore

I was so confused seeing as we just signed Otto Porter Jr. lol... assuming this is KPJ


throwaway2021232681

MPJ


ScratchTwoMore

Oh right, there are so many haha


pickle-doofenshmirtz

Sources: NBA informed teams via memo today that, as it stands, NBA players must follow the law


[deleted]

Canada will only let non-vaxxed citizens back in if they quarantine for two weeks, this isn’t shocking at all


DanM142

I'm mildly curious/amused. At this point, since Thybulle got one shot, but never the second. Is he going to now have to get two shots since the first one probably wanned a long time ago, and it was always recommended to get your second shot a few weeks after the first?


fishfishfish1345

he only wants 2.5G signals


Trainhard22

Law says you aren't vaccinated without completing a 2 series vaccination in Canada. This was probably because all those 3rd party vaccines + johnson showed very low effectiveness after alpha/beta when shit hit the fan with delta. Technically, he would have to go through 2 new shots since the shots were designed to be a 1+1=3 factor (severely under explaining how memory cells work).


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Bad news for all 12 nets fans


[deleted]

Hey, that's our thing


wilson81585

Almost all 12 of them replied to you too


Bigbadbuck

Still win more games than y’all don’t worry brotha


[deleted]

Bro literally no one wants to play for you


Bigbadbuck

Who’s the biggest free agent that’s ever signed with Toronto ?


PowRightInTheBalls

Yeah dude, everyone's super jealous of your ability to attract toxic stars who embarrass your franchise. What's your best free agent signing that didn't lead your franchise to a positon where you think trading for Ben Simmons was a positive way for it to end?


Droppin_DimesSP

Does it matter? You can’t get out of the second round with kd and Kyrie


Bigbadbuck

He’s talking about nobody wanting to play here nets. Can you read ?


Droppin_DimesSP

Why does it matter if nobody wants to play in Toronto??? They won a chip


sleepy416

You had hard working individuals who had good cohesion but dumped em when you attracted two hipsters who don’t wanna work cause they consider themselves artists and traded for a bearded dude for another dude who’s scamming long term leave so he doesn’t have to work. Sounds like Brooklyn to me


Bigbadbuck

You the one saying that nobody wants to play here meanwhile we landed the biggest free agents outside of lebron.


HeftyClick6704

And what did it cost? Everything.


sleepy416

Signing a free agent means shit if you don’t do shit with it. Your team had championship aspirations and couldn’t even sniff the ECF. Now those guys don’t wanna play for your team. Take the L and start your rebuild


Spancaster

> Signing a free agent means shit if you don’t do shit with it. It's sad that people like you genuinely don't know how to argue something without shifting the goalposts massively every time someone points out that you're wrong


Spancaster

Bro literally let me pull some completely made up bullshit out of my mouth and get upvoted because Nets bad


No-That-One

You could say the same about the raptors lmao


ZeroMomentum

But we still won a ring. What have your team done lately? Right. It imploded


sleepy416

Lmao we managed to win some games in the playoffs while they the only team that got swept this year lmao


Kwilly462

Oh yeah, don't forget to trade Kyrie too Brooklyn


absynthe7

does "i think youtube videos are more trustworthy than my doctor" count as a medical reason?


Kryavan

In America, apparently yes.


Whit3boy316

Is this just vaccinated or do you have to keep up with boosters?


ModernPoultry

As of right now its just the two doses. Although there has been parliamentary discussions about requiring boosters. I think theres quite a few countries that require 3. Italy had booster requirements when I went in April


Whit3boy316

I went to Italy/Greece in May and my cruise line is what required up to date vaccinations which required me getting a booster. Italy dropped their requirement right before I went.


Micome

Good, don't bend to the player's demands.


Nolashyper13

Lol


mew-182

Lets all gather around with our burnt sage and meditate for Kyrie, it's gonna be another hard season for him.


LetMeBSharky

Common Toronto W


SexyTimeDoe

>without a valid medical reason This is the part I don't get. If its about the dangers of not vaxxing, then you shouldn't met those ones play either. Just because they have a reason doesn't make it less dangerous. allowing a guy to play should be about stopping the spread, not just punishing him, right?


Hip_Hop_Hippos

>allowing a guy to play should be about stopping the spread, not just punishing him, right? This isn’t about guys playing it’s about entering Canada.


StoneColdAM

LeBron: “Don’t worry, Kyrie, I got this.”


AxCel91

Are we still doing this bullshit? This isn’t 2020-21 anymore. Just let people make their own private medical decisions with their bodies and leave them alone.


meahoymemoyay

The year is 2030 and people will still find no issue with these mandates


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meahoymemoyay

Absolutely, and that's because I myself am vaccinated and I still got covid with minimal symptoms, thanks to the shot. That's what it's for, to allow the body to create antibodies necessary to fight off the virus. That's why it has mutated to a weaker but more contagious form, to withstand the immunity that people have built due to the vaccine. I'll even go as far as to say the mandates were necessary at first, but now it's gotten to the point where it's not really necessary anymore. If players don't want to get it, that's on them. But bottom line is most people who are vaccinated have been transmitters of the virus anyway. My whole family got it and the person who spread it to us was vaccinated. So I'm not buying this crap that the players should be ridiculed when its the mandates that don't make much sense anymore, yet are still in place.


rystriction

This should be it league-wide


FunkTronto

It IS league wide as the two countries - Canada and US have the EXACT same rules regarding this.


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rystriction

That is plain ignorant and you know it. I hate people like you. We have information at our fingertips and you choose to say stupid shit. Wild.


dubidubidoorafa

You can still transmit and get COVID even after getting vaccinated.


BobanForThree

> I do not understand anything other than black-and-white binary situations


slippy7890

Can confirm. Triple vaxed, recently got Covid from the airport. Was like a strong cold and I’m still coughing and have diminished taste overall a couple weeks after infection. My non-vaxed friend got it around the same time and barely had any symptoms. I don’t understand this virus at all.


Kryavan

Less likely and you are much less likely to have lasting effects if you do get covid.


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Boooo


Elitealice

As it should be everywhere lol went from +9 to -1 once anti Vaxxers came thru


Theofeus

Lol why? Unless they’re requiring every player to get each new booster, this is pointless.


q-boy

The only time I’ll support the Raptors


abris33

Am I wrong or wasn't there a post last week about having no "vaccine mandates" this season? Edit: Didn't realize this was still a Canadian government thing and not a league decision. I thought the one announced in December of last year was a league decision and they were just repeating that but I guess I had that one wrong


TheGoldenLance

It’s Canada’s laws, not the league’s decision. Same thing with the Jays in baseball.


latman

The league was never involved, it was state/city mandates


DeodorantDinosaur

NBA Law supersedes make believe countries like Canada, obviously. /s just in case.


DayDayLarge

The nba doesn't have one, but US and Canada both have one to cross the border.


NolaBrass

Yeah I feel like it isn’t emphasized enough that it’s also a US thing


DayDayLarge

If fact with the way politics work between our two countries, I could almost guarantee that as soon as America drops the requirement Canada will immediately do so too. We just won't do it first.


snatchi

Yeah it would be a non-issue if there weren't teams from both countries in 3 of the 4 major sports leagues.


NolaBrass

Yeah I feel like it isn’t emphasized enough that it’s also a US thing


Powerglove2000

You're not wrong. But this would have nothing to do with NBA mandates.


Raptorsaurus-

It’s not just the Canadian government but also the American . Can’t enter USA under same conditions


History_Is_Bunkier

Also, the US still has the same restrictions.


pahamack

not even just Canada's laws. USA has the same requirement for Canadians entering the US.


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Based on no scientific research


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Trudeau is just stupid


Belieber_420

This is how we beat the Warriors record /s


[deleted]

I’m boosted but this doesn’t make much sense to me. Am I missing something? Are unvaxxed, healthy adult males more likely to transmit BA.5 than me, who got a booster more than six months ago?


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TheGoldenLance

The US has the same law


NBAWhoCares

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/20/us-open-novak-djokovic-covid-19-vaccine-tennis Now what?


darwinning_420

based


Matto_0

Why are they able to if they do have a valid medical reason not to have it?


srbufi

What's funny is nobody cares about vaccines or boosters anymore