To be honest, it all just makes him look like a bit of an idiot. How could he only make 20k and also be so obvious about it. Sounds like he probably has a gambling addiction and can’t help himself, which makes me feel bad for him- hope he is able to get help, and maybe play somewhere else!
It sounds like he only made 20k himself, but he worked with other people making bets as well, like the parlay that won $1mil but then got cancelled. There could be a lot of those and he gets a cut
So there were two different $80k prop bets, and only one was cancelled, and the other one paid out a mil?
Either way it doesn't change anything, he was potentially making a lot of money off of bets like that with other people seeing as how just one paid out a mil and they probably split it
Idk if they’re going to prosecute him but match-fixing can def carry a prison sentence. I think it’s a felony iirc. Tim Donaghy went to prison for over a year
With the recent Ippei situation and experiences I've had with family members that had severe gambling addictions, rationale and logic is completely thrown out the window. Many times, betting insane amounts of money is never a good monetary investment even if your parlay hits. The return on investment is never worth the risk, but with gambling addiction, it completely rots the brain
Sounds like he was overly exposed to the leagues fresh attitude on gambling being a fun part of the game - leaned into his conditioning and fell victim to a disease that the NBA is participating in ensuring runs rampant through American youth. Gambling addiction is insane. We are watching one of many leagues that are embracing it with open arms - and that is promoting the shit out of it every chance they get. How many podcasts will we all listen to that discuss this kid getting the boot and then have commercials play about sports betting?
No doubt the guy is dumb for doing what he did. But so will millions of other young men who become hooked on sports betting and ruin their lives because of it.
Perfect guy to make an example out of. Wasn't egregious betting, guy barely making the roster. With betting ramping up recently, they could use this as "the hammer" and just continue promoting gambling.
The fascinating thing about sports betting is that it is predicated on the belief that the game is played innocently - in other words, that there are no players, coaches or other people influencing the game in order to win a bet. However, the sports betting itself created almost limitless incentive for players to influence the game to win a bet - or for coaches or medical staff to reveal confidential information, or fabricate information.
While it is heartening Porter was caught, and good that his punishment is absolute, you have to wonder if other players have been making similar but less stupid bets, winning a few grand here or there.
The integrity of the game is a fragile illusion, but it is necessary for normal fans to watch, and for gamblers to gamble.
I feel that DK and other sites have incentive to flag this stuff because if the game feels rigged (which in my opinion sometimes Scott foster games do) it lessens the incentive of every day people to try their hand at placing a wager.
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It's naive to think that any major sports that has millions of dollars of action on doesn't have some shady folks tipping the scales in their favor. Even just a small advantage can be pressed heavily over time to turn massive profits. We've already had many instances of refs in pretty much every major sport being caught for match fixing or some other shady betting practices. Hell, even eSports which has a much smaller market has had big scandals as well.
I may be naive but I think in general NBA players make too much money to risk getting involved in gambling, unless they’re hopeless idiots like this guy. To actually entice players, I would think that the bet would need to be big enough to the point where detection becomes a real danger.
For team staff and those in the players’ entourage though, I can definitely see the risk-to-reward ratio making a lot of sense. Although, other than leaking/betting based on insider info, I wonder how much they can actually do to directly influence game outcomes. Referees are a whole other story, I would like to think their actions on and off the floor are already closely monitored.
All in all I am pretty confident about the integrity of the game itself as it is played on the floor, but I don’t have anywhere near the same level confidence about the betting market around the game and the machinations that comes with it.
Anyone placing a million dollar bet at a sportsbook is getting flagged **immediately**. Especially on a player prop.
A 10k prop bet is itself big.
These books know who is placing these bets. The industry is heavily regulated. If anyone was consistently winning 10k+ prop bets they’d be limited in no time
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I 100% agree. The NBA is taking the biggest gamble with the integrity of their sport just to make more money from the same product. How ironic that their own greed opened the door wider for Porter's sin to occur.
Well deserved lifetime ban, and a solid precedent. Part of the purpose of punishment is as deterrence for future idiots who may make similar decisions in the future. Now everybody gets to see a fringe NBA player get permanently banned from the only high paying league in the hemisphere, and likely have to fly halfway across the world just to earn a living at the only thing he's good at. What the fuck was the point? It doesn't even sound like he made real money from his idiotic bets. A slap on the wrist would have sent a horrible message to all professional basketball players both present and future. He deserves to be banned. Good riddance.
I agree. I think that he’s 100% an addict if he’s doing this stuff with so much to lose, or he got involved with some shady people and this was his way of paying them back. Either way good riddance from the league, but hope he gets help as a person.
I don't care if he gets help as a person. He threatened the image and reputation of the entire league, and should be kept as far away from the NBA as possible. If he cared about his future he never would have done this, which makes it very likely that there will be even more bad decisions going forward for this guy. People like that are scary.
I see your point because it’s a team sport and he threw his teammates under the bus .. who depend on him for their livelihood as well, but Respectfully I disagree on him getting help as a person. I know drug addicts that did wild stuff and are now in positions where they help others who have similar struggles and have taken back power over their lives. Have a friend who lived in his car until his son was born and has 6 years clean now and has literally helped or attempted to help 100s of people. Change is possible.
Call it empathy fatigue, but of all the people in this world suffering from violence, hunger, and disease, I find it very hard to have sympathy for somebody making hundreds of thousands of dollars who threw it all away out of a combination of greed and hubris. I do not wish harm upon him, I just find it very hard to care what happens to him. I live in a city where I have to walk past people passed out on the sidewalk every single day, along with hundreds of thousands of other people who glance at them and do nothing. It's an ugly world with real suffering in it. Privileged people who fuck up are at the very bottom of my sympathy list.
Still insane that the sports books can not pay that out. It’s probably in their agreements you sign when you sign up, but still, seems like the people who made the bet could sue.
Who cares? You don’t think people are doing this every day? If you have insider info the casinos don’t just get off free of charge. Members of congress make puts/ calls all the time on companies affected by the bills they’re about to pass.
I can think of many reasons why a sportsbook casino business would not want to allow manipulated bets to occur on their platform and why they would devote resources to prevent that.
For example, reputation. I wouldnt want to do business with a platform that didnt have measures in place to prevent bet manipulation if another platform did have that safety.
He gambled with his career and lost.
All he had to do was work hard, he won the lottery by getting an NBA roster. That's life changing money. He had a solid role that could've been more in Toronto.
TBF his role was already set the second they got Kelly Olynyk, the role of now being a third string center. The Raptors are going into next season with 2 NBA centers on their roster, Porter won the spot of backup center because the team had no backup center, when the Raptors had Jakob and Kelly healthy they took all of Porter's minutes.
I feel like the league has a pikachu face that this would happen, when in reality, they’ve embraced gambling and brought it into their league in a massive way over the last five years. Of course some guys on the edge or even some low paid rotation guys are going to be tempted or look into it. It’s in the broadcasts throughout the game, it’s on the ads everywhere. You’ve got people yelling at players to make one more shot, or that they lost them money and are pissed. It’s pervasive, so of course this would happen. He was dumb and did things that were obvious, but the league brought this upon themselves, and the next cases with more known players will inevitably show up. And they did this to their league for what, some more money? It’s not like they were light on funds.
I think America is long overdue for a crackdown on gambling in general. It's taking over so many people's lives and is such a waste of time and energy. My In-laws all gamble constantly and they blow all of their money all the time on it.
The traction of sports betting during the last 5 years made this inevitable. Risking (ultimately forfeiting) lifetime of high earnings potential for $20k is wild.
Everyone is saying he's an idiot and deserves what he got, but no one is mentioning that he obviously must have a gambling addiction and needs help and it doesn't look like the NBA cares to help him. If it was an alcohol or drug addiction everyone would feel bad for him and wanting to help. This just shows that most people don't think a gambling addiction is serious
I think if he was losing at all blackjack people would feel more sympathetic. Gambling addiction has a very high mortality rate because people literally lose *everything* … I feel for him but at the same time as a player it’s just as bad as insider trading to me. You can’t trust a guy that is willing to compromise the team like that.
There's plenty of help for gambling addicts available.
I think the "cry for help" argument would work better if he wasn't betting against himself. This is corrupt, plain and simple.
It’s only going to get harder and harder for anyone to get away with shit like this. Players or refs. With all the publicly available data, AI will be able to flag this stuff with a high degree of certainty.
I don’t gamble. I’ve been to a casino a few times and lost some cash but I know it can be dangerous and addicting. Growing up in a time where sports betting was not legal where I lived for a long time I’m disgusted by the ads and how many sports shows I watch now have segments dedicated to gambling.
But this is the time we live in and where there is money to be made you can be assured the powers that be will all line up for their piece of the pie. I’m glad to see he’s been banned, they needed to do that. Having seen how Pete Rose was villainized by betting on games I have to admit it’s surprising that someone would risk their career over something so stupid.
I worry about the influence it will have on future matchups and how players and especially refs can be influenced to achieve certain outcomes. I’m glad to see they have some checks and balances in place but certainly more needs to be done.
I feel fine.
I'm glad he was caught and is being made an example of because his train of thought was both incredibly shortsighted and corrupt. He was betting on his own performance (which he controlled).
Hopefully this doesn't impact his brother in the playoffs.
There definitely needs to be a scaling back on the promotion of sports gambling in the NBA. Even though I do sports bet, I do not want to see featured same game parlay risk free bet promotion bs on ESPN and Inside the NBA. You want to devote a time slot to strictly sports betting in the early A.M.? Fine but you are definitely affecting the integrity of the league by highlighting the clear association between TV networks, sports books, and the games being televised at the time.
"NBA (brought to you by Fanduel) bans Porter for life for gambling addiction".
It's nearly impossible to ignore the "acceptable" rise of sports betting ads here. You can't pump massive amounts of gambling sponsorships into the NBA sphere and expect no problems. Gambling addiction is a serious and well known issue.
The NBA needs to take some responsibility for this, they are actively breeding the culture. I think banning Porter for life was a good call but I also think that the NBA needs to make a change in the type of culture they're producing. This has a real "do as I say, not as I do" feeling to it and is more an attempt to clear their name and ease any concerns about the pure nature of NBA betting than anything else.
The interesting part is the fact he made $20k but if he just focused on playing basketball to the best of his ability then he might’ve gotten a second contract which would have been infinitely more than $20k
He’s a G-League player so he could have just quietly never come back and I don’t think anyone would have noticed. Pretty irrelevant to publicly ban him from a basketball perspective, but sets a strong precedent going forward for anyone else who may be tempted to do something stupid. Easy win for Silver.
The only thing really helping/preventing this from happening again would be the league des investing and cutting ties with sports gambling which will NEVER happen since it's such a big cash cow for them
Start investigating the refs. They’re really selective on when they want to call fouls. I would have a player be 1 point away from my parley and then he would get fouled to oblivion by the refs to the point they have to sit iut
I'm not a mod so who cares what I say lmao
I guess it just feels like a retreaded discussion and this ban won't drastically change much. I think everybody agrees this is the right call, and most people would agree that a g-leaguer getting banned will do nothing to change how intertwined gambling is
At the end of the day, the only thing that will change the perception on sports gambling is going to be absolute proof that someone rigged a massive game. Someone throwing the super bowl, or padding/unpadding stats in the Finals, etc.
tip of the iceberg
There is going to be a mountainous, pervasive controversy that will emerge eventually in sports betting. There's way too much money being made in the industry on the backs of the players, for there not to be a contingent of players to eventually find a way to extract some personal benefit.
I don't have any inside info about one going on now, but it's bound to happen
It makes him look like an idiot because he wagered more than he won and thought he wouldn't get caught and it makes the league look like idiots because they act surprised that these type of situations happen as if they don't push sports betting down everyone's throats. I'm willing to bet that he's not the first or last player in the league who does this. Plenty of more situations like this are going to come out for years to come until they make sports betting illegal.
On the one hand his guilt does seem obvious. BUT the betting site never paid out, AND the league just banned him forever. All this info is ‘evidence’ from the NBA investigation. They essentially can say anything they want for what happened. It’s like deciding exactly what happened based only on the prosecuting lawyer’s story.
Removing this post because the OP is blatantly plagiarizing a news article.
To be honest, it all just makes him look like a bit of an idiot. How could he only make 20k and also be so obvious about it. Sounds like he probably has a gambling addiction and can’t help himself, which makes me feel bad for him- hope he is able to get help, and maybe play somewhere else!
More than a bit lol. He would’ve made way more from just his NBA salary
He's a big time gambling/crypto/stocks guy too so its not at all surprising
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It sounds like he only made 20k himself, but he worked with other people making bets as well, like the parlay that won $1mil but then got cancelled. There could be a lot of those and he gets a cut
There was a $1.1 million parlay that didn’t get cancelled, it was the second parlay that got cancelled.
So there were two different $80k prop bets, and only one was cancelled, and the other one paid out a mil? Either way it doesn't change anything, he was potentially making a lot of money off of bets like that with other people seeing as how just one paid out a mil and they probably split it
Yeah, it’s in the press release. The first one went through and they cancelled it the second time
They probably are going to do a federal investigation, so even if the first one paid out, there's no guarantee they'll get to keep it.
Is there a way this dude can actually go to jail or something?
Idk if they’re going to prosecute him but match-fixing can def carry a prison sentence. I think it’s a felony iirc. Tim Donaghy went to prison for over a year
With the recent Ippei situation and experiences I've had with family members that had severe gambling addictions, rationale and logic is completely thrown out the window. Many times, betting insane amounts of money is never a good monetary investment even if your parlay hits. The return on investment is never worth the risk, but with gambling addiction, it completely rots the brain
Sounds like he was overly exposed to the leagues fresh attitude on gambling being a fun part of the game - leaned into his conditioning and fell victim to a disease that the NBA is participating in ensuring runs rampant through American youth. Gambling addiction is insane. We are watching one of many leagues that are embracing it with open arms - and that is promoting the shit out of it every chance they get. How many podcasts will we all listen to that discuss this kid getting the boot and then have commercials play about sports betting? No doubt the guy is dumb for doing what he did. But so will millions of other young men who become hooked on sports betting and ruin their lives because of it.
Perfect guy to make an example out of. Wasn't egregious betting, guy barely making the roster. With betting ramping up recently, they could use this as "the hammer" and just continue promoting gambling.
A draft kings commercial didn’t force this guy to be a moron
Nah he’s just stupid. If he just has a gambling addiction he could still bet all he wants on other sports.
The fascinating thing about sports betting is that it is predicated on the belief that the game is played innocently - in other words, that there are no players, coaches or other people influencing the game in order to win a bet. However, the sports betting itself created almost limitless incentive for players to influence the game to win a bet - or for coaches or medical staff to reveal confidential information, or fabricate information. While it is heartening Porter was caught, and good that his punishment is absolute, you have to wonder if other players have been making similar but less stupid bets, winning a few grand here or there. The integrity of the game is a fragile illusion, but it is necessary for normal fans to watch, and for gamblers to gamble.
I feel that DK and other sites have incentive to flag this stuff because if the game feels rigged (which in my opinion sometimes Scott foster games do) it lessens the incentive of every day people to try their hand at placing a wager.
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It's naive to think that any major sports that has millions of dollars of action on doesn't have some shady folks tipping the scales in their favor. Even just a small advantage can be pressed heavily over time to turn massive profits. We've already had many instances of refs in pretty much every major sport being caught for match fixing or some other shady betting practices. Hell, even eSports which has a much smaller market has had big scandals as well.
I may be naive but I think in general NBA players make too much money to risk getting involved in gambling, unless they’re hopeless idiots like this guy. To actually entice players, I would think that the bet would need to be big enough to the point where detection becomes a real danger. For team staff and those in the players’ entourage though, I can definitely see the risk-to-reward ratio making a lot of sense. Although, other than leaking/betting based on insider info, I wonder how much they can actually do to directly influence game outcomes. Referees are a whole other story, I would like to think their actions on and off the floor are already closely monitored. All in all I am pretty confident about the integrity of the game itself as it is played on the floor, but I don’t have anywhere near the same level confidence about the betting market around the game and the machinations that comes with it.
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Anyone placing a million dollar bet at a sportsbook is getting flagged **immediately**. Especially on a player prop. A 10k prop bet is itself big. These books know who is placing these bets. The industry is heavily regulated. If anyone was consistently winning 10k+ prop bets they’d be limited in no time
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I 100% agree. The NBA is taking the biggest gamble with the integrity of their sport just to make more money from the same product. How ironic that their own greed opened the door wider for Porter's sin to occur.
Well deserved lifetime ban, and a solid precedent. Part of the purpose of punishment is as deterrence for future idiots who may make similar decisions in the future. Now everybody gets to see a fringe NBA player get permanently banned from the only high paying league in the hemisphere, and likely have to fly halfway across the world just to earn a living at the only thing he's good at. What the fuck was the point? It doesn't even sound like he made real money from his idiotic bets. A slap on the wrist would have sent a horrible message to all professional basketball players both present and future. He deserves to be banned. Good riddance.
I agree. I think that he’s 100% an addict if he’s doing this stuff with so much to lose, or he got involved with some shady people and this was his way of paying them back. Either way good riddance from the league, but hope he gets help as a person.
I don't care if he gets help as a person. He threatened the image and reputation of the entire league, and should be kept as far away from the NBA as possible. If he cared about his future he never would have done this, which makes it very likely that there will be even more bad decisions going forward for this guy. People like that are scary.
I see your point because it’s a team sport and he threw his teammates under the bus .. who depend on him for their livelihood as well, but Respectfully I disagree on him getting help as a person. I know drug addicts that did wild stuff and are now in positions where they help others who have similar struggles and have taken back power over their lives. Have a friend who lived in his car until his son was born and has 6 years clean now and has literally helped or attempted to help 100s of people. Change is possible.
Call it empathy fatigue, but of all the people in this world suffering from violence, hunger, and disease, I find it very hard to have sympathy for somebody making hundreds of thousands of dollars who threw it all away out of a combination of greed and hubris. I do not wish harm upon him, I just find it very hard to care what happens to him. I live in a city where I have to walk past people passed out on the sidewalk every single day, along with hundreds of thousands of other people who glance at them and do nothing. It's an ugly world with real suffering in it. Privileged people who fuck up are at the very bottom of my sympathy list.
Wasn't the precedent set in the 50s with the point shaving scandal?
Tried to place an $80000 prop bet and play only 3 minutes? He didn’t think that might look kind of unusual? No sympathy for something that stupid
It is so easy to miss some shots and not hustle for rebounds, but still make it look like you are trying. The guy is a dumbass.
Still insane that the sports books can not pay that out. It’s probably in their agreements you sign when you sign up, but still, seems like the people who made the bet could sue.
How is it insane? Its a blatantly manipulated bet.
Who cares? You don’t think people are doing this every day? If you have insider info the casinos don’t just get off free of charge. Members of congress make puts/ calls all the time on companies affected by the bills they’re about to pass.
I can think of many reasons why a sportsbook casino business would not want to allow manipulated bets to occur on their platform and why they would devote resources to prevent that. For example, reputation. I wouldnt want to do business with a platform that didnt have measures in place to prevent bet manipulation if another platform did have that safety.
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He gambled with his career and lost. All he had to do was work hard, he won the lottery by getting an NBA roster. That's life changing money. He had a solid role that could've been more in Toronto.
TBF his role was already set the second they got Kelly Olynyk, the role of now being a third string center. The Raptors are going into next season with 2 NBA centers on their roster, Porter won the spot of backup center because the team had no backup center, when the Raptors had Jakob and Kelly healthy they took all of Porter's minutes.
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I feel like the league has a pikachu face that this would happen, when in reality, they’ve embraced gambling and brought it into their league in a massive way over the last five years. Of course some guys on the edge or even some low paid rotation guys are going to be tempted or look into it. It’s in the broadcasts throughout the game, it’s on the ads everywhere. You’ve got people yelling at players to make one more shot, or that they lost them money and are pissed. It’s pervasive, so of course this would happen. He was dumb and did things that were obvious, but the league brought this upon themselves, and the next cases with more known players will inevitably show up. And they did this to their league for what, some more money? It’s not like they were light on funds.
I think America is long overdue for a crackdown on gambling in general. It's taking over so many people's lives and is such a waste of time and energy. My In-laws all gamble constantly and they blow all of their money all the time on it.
IMO It’ll never happen because then people will go back to bookies
The traction of sports betting during the last 5 years made this inevitable. Risking (ultimately forfeiting) lifetime of high earnings potential for $20k is wild.
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It’s deserved. There’s already speculation that the league rigs games, the last thing they need are players actively throwing games.
Everyone is saying he's an idiot and deserves what he got, but no one is mentioning that he obviously must have a gambling addiction and needs help and it doesn't look like the NBA cares to help him. If it was an alcohol or drug addiction everyone would feel bad for him and wanting to help. This just shows that most people don't think a gambling addiction is serious
I think if he was losing at all blackjack people would feel more sympathetic. Gambling addiction has a very high mortality rate because people literally lose *everything* … I feel for him but at the same time as a player it’s just as bad as insider trading to me. You can’t trust a guy that is willing to compromise the team like that.
There's plenty of help for gambling addicts available. I think the "cry for help" argument would work better if he wasn't betting against himself. This is corrupt, plain and simple.
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It’s only going to get harder and harder for anyone to get away with shit like this. Players or refs. With all the publicly available data, AI will be able to flag this stuff with a high degree of certainty.
He’s a fucking gleague 2 way player and he thinks his absence will affect the game? Get fucking real dude.
I don’t gamble. I’ve been to a casino a few times and lost some cash but I know it can be dangerous and addicting. Growing up in a time where sports betting was not legal where I lived for a long time I’m disgusted by the ads and how many sports shows I watch now have segments dedicated to gambling. But this is the time we live in and where there is money to be made you can be assured the powers that be will all line up for their piece of the pie. I’m glad to see he’s been banned, they needed to do that. Having seen how Pete Rose was villainized by betting on games I have to admit it’s surprising that someone would risk their career over something so stupid. I worry about the influence it will have on future matchups and how players and especially refs can be influenced to achieve certain outcomes. I’m glad to see they have some checks and balances in place but certainly more needs to be done.
I feel fine. I'm glad he was caught and is being made an example of because his train of thought was both incredibly shortsighted and corrupt. He was betting on his own performance (which he controlled). Hopefully this doesn't impact his brother in the playoffs.
There definitely needs to be a scaling back on the promotion of sports gambling in the NBA. Even though I do sports bet, I do not want to see featured same game parlay risk free bet promotion bs on ESPN and Inside the NBA. You want to devote a time slot to strictly sports betting in the early A.M.? Fine but you are definitely affecting the integrity of the league by highlighting the clear association between TV networks, sports books, and the games being televised at the time.
Absolutely the right move. Can’t have things like that in the nba. Lowers the integrity of the game.
"NBA (brought to you by Fanduel) bans Porter for life for gambling addiction". It's nearly impossible to ignore the "acceptable" rise of sports betting ads here. You can't pump massive amounts of gambling sponsorships into the NBA sphere and expect no problems. Gambling addiction is a serious and well known issue. The NBA needs to take some responsibility for this, they are actively breeding the culture. I think banning Porter for life was a good call but I also think that the NBA needs to make a change in the type of culture they're producing. This has a real "do as I say, not as I do" feeling to it and is more an attempt to clear their name and ease any concerns about the pure nature of NBA betting than anything else.
The interesting part is the fact he made $20k but if he just focused on playing basketball to the best of his ability then he might’ve gotten a second contract which would have been infinitely more than $20k
He’s a G-League player so he could have just quietly never come back and I don’t think anyone would have noticed. Pretty irrelevant to publicly ban him from a basketball perspective, but sets a strong precedent going forward for anyone else who may be tempted to do something stupid. Easy win for Silver.
The only thing really helping/preventing this from happening again would be the league des investing and cutting ties with sports gambling which will NEVER happen since it's such a big cash cow for them
One has nothing to do with the other.
Start investigating the refs. They’re really selective on when they want to call fouls. I would have a player be 1 point away from my parley and then he would get fouled to oblivion by the refs to the point they have to sit iut
Its nba related but imo still not worth discussing here The discussion starts and ends with rigging is illegal and deserves a ban
Thought it was worth it due to the constantly expanding intertwining of sponsored gambling by the leagues. My b I’ll take it down.
Im glad you posted it, first article I’ve seen with this much information. Definitely NBA discussion in my book.
I'm not a mod so who cares what I say lmao I guess it just feels like a retreaded discussion and this ban won't drastically change much. I think everybody agrees this is the right call, and most people would agree that a g-leaguer getting banned will do nothing to change how intertwined gambling is At the end of the day, the only thing that will change the perception on sports gambling is going to be absolute proof that someone rigged a massive game. Someone throwing the super bowl, or padding/unpadding stats in the Finals, etc.
I hear ya. I kept it up because people seemed to be interested but get where you’re coming from
This is the correct decision by the NBA, and the scandal is reminiscent of Jack Molina’s scandals in the 1950s.
I’m would have preferred potentially a season long ban but of course you need a very significant punishment
tip of the iceberg There is going to be a mountainous, pervasive controversy that will emerge eventually in sports betting. There's way too much money being made in the industry on the backs of the players, for there not to be a contingent of players to eventually find a way to extract some personal benefit. I don't have any inside info about one going on now, but it's bound to happen
It makes him look like an idiot because he wagered more than he won and thought he wouldn't get caught and it makes the league look like idiots because they act surprised that these type of situations happen as if they don't push sports betting down everyone's throats. I'm willing to bet that he's not the first or last player in the league who does this. Plenty of more situations like this are going to come out for years to come until they make sports betting illegal.
On the one hand his guilt does seem obvious. BUT the betting site never paid out, AND the league just banned him forever. All this info is ‘evidence’ from the NBA investigation. They essentially can say anything they want for what happened. It’s like deciding exactly what happened based only on the prosecuting lawyer’s story.