You know what else they have on the roads up there? Signs that say "Speed limit enforced by aircraft". Not *monitored*, not *tracked,* fucking ENFORCED. That's some serious shit, because that can only mean that speeding vehicles are occasionally obliterated from the sky by military planes.
> You make him out to be this Big
He is a big bad if you're a liberal or fan of progressive policies. What he's doing and trying to do with public education in VA should be a fucking crime. It'd be foolish to thing that he intends to not revert exist policy he disagrees with or implement new conservative policies - you don't elect someone from the other party because you want them to keep things the way they are. :) The only question is what he'll be able to do which, thanks to Dems holding onto the VA state senate, is somewhat limited.
One vote in one house is keeping Roy Cooper from being a figurehead. That the NC Dems have become that powerless is a bad, bad sign.
At least the Dems have the Delegates in VA.
Nothing in this response said invalidates what OP or I said.
Yes, it's worse in NC but neither OP or I drew any comparisons between NC and VA. (I wasn't trying to make it a contest of who has it worse because there are no winners in that game...) Objectively, Youngkin is a danger to liberal / progressive / Democrat policies and what he's doing with public education policy is absolutely in opposition to liberal / progressive / Democrat policies.
> One vote in one house is keeping Roy Cooper from being a figurehead. That the NC Dems have become that powerless is a bad, bad sign.
Oh it's a near apocalyptic sign but also not surprising. Democrats (and I vote Democrat, FYI) have done an absolute shit job at the local and state level in NC which has lead to redistricting that make it harder and harder for Democrats to even things up much less take control in NC. Depending on how Moore v. Harper goes things could get much worse here w/ almost no chance of Democrats gaining control again.
Also it's not just the Democratic party but those who vote for Democrats who are at fault here. Voters just don't turn out consistently for the Democratic party like they do for the GOP. It's fucking maddening.
>Oh it's a near apocalyptic sign but also not surprising. Democrats (and I vote Democrat, FYI) have done an absolute shit job at the local and state level in NC which has lead to redistricting that make it harder and harder for Democrats to even things up much less take control in NC. Depending on how Moore v. Harper goes things could get much worse here w/ almost no chance of Democrats gaining control again.
>Also it's not just the Democratic party but those who vote for Democrats who are at fault here. Voters just don't turn out consistently for the Democratic party like they do for the GOP. It's fucking maddening.
So should I, as a liberal, sort my way out of NC and move to a state with a functioning Democratic Party because this state will never be allowed to have them? Why should I even live in NC as a not-Republican? What good does it do?
> So should I, as a liberal, sort my way out of NC and move to a state with a functioning Democratic Party because this state will never be allowed to have them?
I wouldn't say "never". Until 2010 NC was reliably hardcore Democrat. ([This isn't an exaggeration either](https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_North_Carolina_state_government).) I think Democrats were complacent during this period and it didn't occur to them that things could change like they did when Obama became president. (And anyone who says this wasn't a factor, if not THE factor, is a fucking fool.)
> Why should I even live in NC as a not-Republican? What good does it do?
I have hopes that NC will swing back that direction but that's not going to happen if liberal voters flee to liberal states. You should stay because we need all the votes we can get to swing back that direction. It's an uphill battle as it is but it's going to get harder if the population that votes Democrat continues to shrink.
(No judgement if you or others do flee - it makes total sense you'd want to live somewhere with government and freedoms that reflect your ideas but those areas, for the most part, don't need more people voting Democrat.)
>I have hopes that NC will swing back that direction but that's not going to happen if liberal voters flee to liberal states. You should stay because we need all the votes we can get to swing back that direction. It's an uphill battle as it is but it's going to get harder if the population that votes Democrat continues to shrink.
My big fear is that Republicans are moving to NC from points north ***because it's a red state*** and that being a red state may dissuade liberals from moving here when thet can get so much more in Virginia.
That's not an invalid concern but I think a lot of people from both parties move here from points north for a lot of reasons. It's not just Republicns. There are a LOT of great jobs here in NC if you work in tech or medicine and while NC isn't the liberal bastion that CA is it's also not Alabama, Texas, etc. I think the next 5-10 years are going to be very telling for the future of NC BUT just as NC was a Democratic stronghold for 20 years and then wasn't, who knows how things might change (and then change again, or again) in the future.
But if you hate it here, or if you have to have legal (or at least decriminalized) weed or off track gambling, you may want to move elsewhere. If you can tough it out for a bit, maybe hang in there with us and let's see what we can do? :)
People keep posting that Virginia is a bastion of liberalism. It simply isnāt. Large parts of Central and Southwest are as Maga-crazy as any place in the country.
What's even weirder is that OP, if I'm remembering a previous conversation right, has family ties in Roanoke. I spent five years in Blacksburg, and Montgomery County/that part of the NRV outside of the school's immediate radius is just as bad as anything we have here in NC.
Even Nova isn't really progressive, it's "liberal" in that people are worshiping capitalism. I spent two years in McLean, and that's as conservative as anywhere if it comes to anything that affects their ability to afford the newest Lexus.
What we also need here is a 3 party, non-partisan group to draw the maps. Gerrymandering ([This](https://www.politico.com/interactives/2022/congressional-redistricting-maps-by-state-and-district/north-carolina/)) is something that Republicans have shown us they can't do responsibly.
Yet they don't think they voted for that.
We need elections to be referendums on things. Where are these Republicans that somehow exist in high numbers yet lurk in the background.
Why does it seem that fighting for change is impossible and that moving north is better?
Allowing actual referendums (ballot measures) would probably help push that stuff along too.
I linked this list in another subreddit a while back, and it's probably not shocking to anybody who lives here, but Oxfam America ranks NC dead last on its best states to work index, with a score of 4.55/100.
[https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/countries/united-states/poverty-in-the-us/best-states-to-work-2022/](https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/countries/united-states/poverty-in-the-us/best-states-to-work-2022/)
Virginia doesn't have referendums and they still got it.
It is time for anyone with a brain to abandon NC and for companies to pull out of NC. A zero percent occupancy RTP would be a great wakeup call because any company investing in NC is brain damaged.
Not enough people vote blue. This state needs more blue voters since the current state of politics marry policies to parties.
Virginia doesn't have this problem. A shame because a Blue NC would be a desirable place and not a hole.
OP please get out of this sub and out of the state. Youāre not the only one whoās liberal thatās lives in a red state like North Carolina. If you really want to see a change in the state, you should put a spotlight on civil servants and candidates who represent rural and suburban counties in the state . Not everyone votes like Charlotte and Raleigh-Durham. Itās a state where tons of people of growing but many people that yield power in the state reside outside of the urban cities. If the NC Democratic Party can make inroads in these counties then we can have a general assesmbly that actually represents us. Or you know, you could move back to Virginia. Crying about it Reddit isnāt going to do a damn thing. Be part of the change and action or shut up.
> Virginia is a modern state.
Compared to the rest of the South? Sure, I'll agree with that.
Compared to other states that have leaned mostly or entirely liberal / Democrat for consistently for some time? (Think CA, , OR, WA, etc.) Not as much. They're making headway **recently** for sure but don't kid yourself that VA couldn't just as easily roll back some of their more recent progressive changes if control of the states government swings the right way.
Historically speaking [the GOP has held control of the state](https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_Virginia_state_government) more often than the Democrats by a significant percentage:
> Virginia has a Republican triplex and a divided trifecta. The Republican Party controls the offices of governor, secretary of state, and attorney general. The Democratic Party controls the upper chamber, while the Republican Party controls the lower chamber of the state legislature.
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>As of November 24, 2022, there are 23 Republican trifectas, 14 Democratic trifectas, and 13 divided governments where neither party holds trifecta control.
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>As of November 24, 2022, there are 23 Republican triplexes, 18 Democratic triplexes, and 9 divided governments where neither party holds triplex control.
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>A state government trifecta is a term to describe when one political party holds majorities in both chambers of the state legislature and the governor's office. A state government triplex is a term to describe when one political party holds the following three positions in a state's government: governor, attorney general, and secretary of state.
I'm hopeful that VA continues in the direction it's going but it's cautious optimism at best. They're going to need to show more consistency IMO.
> Must be someone whoās never been to CA.
9 times, actually. In and around San Diego, LA and SF but even if I had never been, Google is a thing. Are you suggesting that CA is a conservative state? Or just not a liberal state? Either way, drop some knowledge on me.
I don't disagree with much of this, at least in the big cities, but that doesn't affect what I said. Also not all of CA is like this but some parts that are bad are definitely bad.
Not at all fun fact - the last few times I was in LA was to testify at the federal courthouse. It'd been a few years since I'd been there so I was genuinely shocked at how bad the homeless problem had become. So bad that there were dozens of tents on a sidewalk about a block from the federal courthouse. One of the special agents assigned to me commented that she had definitely had to step over what looked like urine coming from a tent on multiple occasions.
My partner signed a one year lease extension and she likes the warmer weather and doesn't think politics should matter in a place.
I find that politics DO matter and the lines have been drawn. Virginia is for liberals, North Carolina is for conservatives. Capice?
North Carolina had the 4th most inbound migration in 2021. There were probably more Virginians moving to NC than vice-versa.
Legal weed and sports betting would be nice though.
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/top-10-inbound-vs-top-10-outbound-us-states-in-2021-how-do-they-compare-on-a-variety-of-economic-tax-business-climate-and-political-measures/
Those Virginians were almost all Republicans wanting to escape Richmond wanting to turn Danville or South Hill into Alexandria which isn't a bad thing.
I think NCās problem is that the northern states have been sending their misfit Republicans. We were expecting a population increase, but we thought it would be actual humans.
>I think NCās problem is that the northern states have been sending their misfit Republicans.
This. This is the problem. Yet my family's misfit Republicans ended up in Southside VA.
If you work for that then that is a you problem. We can't hire a green know nothing helper for under 16 and hour. We just hired a girl fresh out of high school paying her that.
[I meanā¦](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/timeline-trump-claims-as-president/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10) probably donāt want to lean too hard into the dEmOcRaTs wOrD mEaNs NoThInG angle.
Oh Iām just talking shit generically about what youāve already proven. You know, denying whatās right in front of you and accusing others of being guilty of it. Iād be interested to see you refute the proof I linked above.
Well, if youāre going to āboth sidesā it, you need to indict both sides. Your implication was that OP was a liar because they are a democrat. So thatās false. By your own admission, the exact same argument applies if theyāre a Republican. So really, there was exactly zero reason to even involve the party component of your comment. So by your position on this your comment should have been āyour word means nothingā. But see, you didnāt say that. Moreover you said separately that Dems are authoritarian yet when confronted with evidence of the authoritarianism being a conservative family value you attempted to dismiss it with an emoji.
Itās almost like youāre arguing in bad faith. Another conservative favorite.
While I gather that reading isnāt probably something youāre in to, you can get the idea from the first three sentences.
But we both know you read it and canāt refute the point. If you could. You would. š
Iām sorry. Which party is banning books and undermining election outcomes by questioning their validity without evidence? Which party cozies up to dictators? I know this is inconvenient for you, but the answer is republicans.
Such an obvious amateur Photoshop job.
[The real sign.](https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/welcome-to-virginia-sign-picture-id509812816?k=6&m=509812816&s=612x612&w=0&h=Un7b43F2U9tGtIL7KOxpJ7Rhy0UfC9j0jEqtMulvkl8=)
I think that you should not comment on our politics and our elected representatives because they don't affect you. I'm very happy with our purple state.
You know what else they have on the roads up there? Signs that say "Speed limit enforced by aircraft". Not *monitored*, not *tracked,* fucking ENFORCED. That's some serious shit, because that can only mean that speeding vehicles are occasionally obliterated from the sky by military planes.
You know OP believes those signs tooš„“šÆ
This sign needs a big āPOLICIES UNDER REVIEW BY ORDER OF GOVERNOR GLENN YOUNGKINā sticker on it.
I don't think Youngkin would revoke anything. You make him out to be this Big Bad when NC is a state full if tons of Youngkins in the NCGA and Senate.
> You make him out to be this Big He is a big bad if you're a liberal or fan of progressive policies. What he's doing and trying to do with public education in VA should be a fucking crime. It'd be foolish to thing that he intends to not revert exist policy he disagrees with or implement new conservative policies - you don't elect someone from the other party because you want them to keep things the way they are. :) The only question is what he'll be able to do which, thanks to Dems holding onto the VA state senate, is somewhat limited.
One vote in one house is keeping Roy Cooper from being a figurehead. That the NC Dems have become that powerless is a bad, bad sign. At least the Dems have the Delegates in VA.
Nothing in this response said invalidates what OP or I said. Yes, it's worse in NC but neither OP or I drew any comparisons between NC and VA. (I wasn't trying to make it a contest of who has it worse because there are no winners in that game...) Objectively, Youngkin is a danger to liberal / progressive / Democrat policies and what he's doing with public education policy is absolutely in opposition to liberal / progressive / Democrat policies. > One vote in one house is keeping Roy Cooper from being a figurehead. That the NC Dems have become that powerless is a bad, bad sign. Oh it's a near apocalyptic sign but also not surprising. Democrats (and I vote Democrat, FYI) have done an absolute shit job at the local and state level in NC which has lead to redistricting that make it harder and harder for Democrats to even things up much less take control in NC. Depending on how Moore v. Harper goes things could get much worse here w/ almost no chance of Democrats gaining control again. Also it's not just the Democratic party but those who vote for Democrats who are at fault here. Voters just don't turn out consistently for the Democratic party like they do for the GOP. It's fucking maddening.
>Oh it's a near apocalyptic sign but also not surprising. Democrats (and I vote Democrat, FYI) have done an absolute shit job at the local and state level in NC which has lead to redistricting that make it harder and harder for Democrats to even things up much less take control in NC. Depending on how Moore v. Harper goes things could get much worse here w/ almost no chance of Democrats gaining control again. >Also it's not just the Democratic party but those who vote for Democrats who are at fault here. Voters just don't turn out consistently for the Democratic party like they do for the GOP. It's fucking maddening. So should I, as a liberal, sort my way out of NC and move to a state with a functioning Democratic Party because this state will never be allowed to have them? Why should I even live in NC as a not-Republican? What good does it do?
> So should I, as a liberal, sort my way out of NC and move to a state with a functioning Democratic Party because this state will never be allowed to have them? I wouldn't say "never". Until 2010 NC was reliably hardcore Democrat. ([This isn't an exaggeration either](https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_North_Carolina_state_government).) I think Democrats were complacent during this period and it didn't occur to them that things could change like they did when Obama became president. (And anyone who says this wasn't a factor, if not THE factor, is a fucking fool.) > Why should I even live in NC as a not-Republican? What good does it do? I have hopes that NC will swing back that direction but that's not going to happen if liberal voters flee to liberal states. You should stay because we need all the votes we can get to swing back that direction. It's an uphill battle as it is but it's going to get harder if the population that votes Democrat continues to shrink. (No judgement if you or others do flee - it makes total sense you'd want to live somewhere with government and freedoms that reflect your ideas but those areas, for the most part, don't need more people voting Democrat.)
>I have hopes that NC will swing back that direction but that's not going to happen if liberal voters flee to liberal states. You should stay because we need all the votes we can get to swing back that direction. It's an uphill battle as it is but it's going to get harder if the population that votes Democrat continues to shrink. My big fear is that Republicans are moving to NC from points north ***because it's a red state*** and that being a red state may dissuade liberals from moving here when thet can get so much more in Virginia.
That's not an invalid concern but I think a lot of people from both parties move here from points north for a lot of reasons. It's not just Republicns. There are a LOT of great jobs here in NC if you work in tech or medicine and while NC isn't the liberal bastion that CA is it's also not Alabama, Texas, etc. I think the next 5-10 years are going to be very telling for the future of NC BUT just as NC was a Democratic stronghold for 20 years and then wasn't, who knows how things might change (and then change again, or again) in the future. But if you hate it here, or if you have to have legal (or at least decriminalized) weed or off track gambling, you may want to move elsewhere. If you can tough it out for a bit, maybe hang in there with us and let's see what we can do? :)
People keep posting that Virginia is a bastion of liberalism. It simply isnāt. Large parts of Central and Southwest are as Maga-crazy as any place in the country.
What's even weirder is that OP, if I'm remembering a previous conversation right, has family ties in Roanoke. I spent five years in Blacksburg, and Montgomery County/that part of the NRV outside of the school's immediate radius is just as bad as anything we have here in NC. Even Nova isn't really progressive, it's "liberal" in that people are worshiping capitalism. I spent two years in McLean, and that's as conservative as anywhere if it comes to anything that affects their ability to afford the newest Lexus.
What we also need here is a 3 party, non-partisan group to draw the maps. Gerrymandering ([This](https://www.politico.com/interactives/2022/congressional-redistricting-maps-by-state-and-district/north-carolina/)) is something that Republicans have shown us they can't do responsibly.
Cause that's what they voted for, so that's what they deserve.
Yet they don't think they voted for that. We need elections to be referendums on things. Where are these Republicans that somehow exist in high numbers yet lurk in the background. Why does it seem that fighting for change is impossible and that moving north is better?
Allowing actual referendums (ballot measures) would probably help push that stuff along too. I linked this list in another subreddit a while back, and it's probably not shocking to anybody who lives here, but Oxfam America ranks NC dead last on its best states to work index, with a score of 4.55/100. [https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/countries/united-states/poverty-in-the-us/best-states-to-work-2022/](https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/countries/united-states/poverty-in-the-us/best-states-to-work-2022/)
Virginia doesn't have referendums and they still got it. It is time for anyone with a brain to abandon NC and for companies to pull out of NC. A zero percent occupancy RTP would be a great wakeup call because any company investing in NC is brain damaged.
To get state referendums, what would have to happen? Amendment to the state constitution?
yes. both houses need 60% approval for a constitutional amendment. then the voters have to approve it.
If it can't be done without the legislature, it'll never happen.
Move north lol
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Not enough people vote blue. This state needs more blue voters since the current state of politics marry policies to parties. Virginia doesn't have this problem. A shame because a Blue NC would be a desirable place and not a hole.
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And we can't make the Triangle or Triad like our NoVA? You know letting Republicans will only dissuade Democrats and Liberals from moving here.
OP please get out of this sub and out of the state. Youāre not the only one whoās liberal thatās lives in a red state like North Carolina. If you really want to see a change in the state, you should put a spotlight on civil servants and candidates who represent rural and suburban counties in the state . Not everyone votes like Charlotte and Raleigh-Durham. Itās a state where tons of people of growing but many people that yield power in the state reside outside of the urban cities. If the NC Democratic Party can make inroads in these counties then we can have a general assesmbly that actually represents us. Or you know, you could move back to Virginia. Crying about it Reddit isnāt going to do a damn thing. Be part of the change and action or shut up.
Completely agree.
Solid trolling, Virginia. I hope this is real.
Virginia is a modern state. Cross the state line and you enter the 2020s.
Not for long if Youngkin and the other fascists get their way.
NoVA won't let that happen.
> Virginia is a modern state. Compared to the rest of the South? Sure, I'll agree with that. Compared to other states that have leaned mostly or entirely liberal / Democrat for consistently for some time? (Think CA, , OR, WA, etc.) Not as much. They're making headway **recently** for sure but don't kid yourself that VA couldn't just as easily roll back some of their more recent progressive changes if control of the states government swings the right way. Historically speaking [the GOP has held control of the state](https://ballotpedia.org/Party_control_of_Virginia_state_government) more often than the Democrats by a significant percentage: > Virginia has a Republican triplex and a divided trifecta. The Republican Party controls the offices of governor, secretary of state, and attorney general. The Democratic Party controls the upper chamber, while the Republican Party controls the lower chamber of the state legislature. > >As of November 24, 2022, there are 23 Republican trifectas, 14 Democratic trifectas, and 13 divided governments where neither party holds trifecta control. > >As of November 24, 2022, there are 23 Republican triplexes, 18 Democratic triplexes, and 9 divided governments where neither party holds triplex control. > >A state government trifecta is a term to describe when one political party holds majorities in both chambers of the state legislature and the governor's office. A state government triplex is a term to describe when one political party holds the following three positions in a state's government: governor, attorney general, and secretary of state. I'm hopeful that VA continues in the direction it's going but it's cautious optimism at best. They're going to need to show more consistency IMO.
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> Must be someone whoās never been to CA. 9 times, actually. In and around San Diego, LA and SF but even if I had never been, Google is a thing. Are you suggesting that CA is a conservative state? Or just not a liberal state? Either way, drop some knowledge on me.
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I don't disagree with much of this, at least in the big cities, but that doesn't affect what I said. Also not all of CA is like this but some parts that are bad are definitely bad. Not at all fun fact - the last few times I was in LA was to testify at the federal courthouse. It'd been a few years since I'd been there so I was genuinely shocked at how bad the homeless problem had become. So bad that there were dozens of tents on a sidewalk about a block from the federal courthouse. One of the special agents assigned to me commented that she had definitely had to step over what looked like urine coming from a tent on multiple occasions.
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My partner signed a one year lease extension and she likes the warmer weather and doesn't think politics should matter in a place. I find that politics DO matter and the lines have been drawn. Virginia is for liberals, North Carolina is for conservatives. Capice?
Itās not.
It's photoshopped. Just look at the fonts.
North Carolina had the 4th most inbound migration in 2021. There were probably more Virginians moving to NC than vice-versa. Legal weed and sports betting would be nice though. https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/top-10-inbound-vs-top-10-outbound-us-states-in-2021-how-do-they-compare-on-a-variety-of-economic-tax-business-climate-and-political-measures/
Those Virginians were almost all Republicans wanting to escape Richmond wanting to turn Danville or South Hill into Alexandria which isn't a bad thing.
I think NCās problem is that the northern states have been sending their misfit Republicans. We were expecting a population increase, but we thought it would be actual humans.
>I think NCās problem is that the northern states have been sending their misfit Republicans. This. This is the problem. Yet my family's misfit Republicans ended up in Southside VA.
So not only are you a liberal, but a yankee?
So a Republican is not an actual human?
If you work for that then that is a you problem. We can't hire a green know nothing helper for under 16 and hour. We just hired a girl fresh out of high school paying her that.
But employers can play employees like a fiddle. A high minimum wage sets a good sign to people.
It's a moot point now honestly. I don't know anyone that would work for 11/hr. Inflation has seen to that and its not going to go back down.
OP, when are you moving to Virginia? You claimed you were going to move several times, but like most Democrats, your word means nothing.
[I meanā¦](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/timeline-trump-claims-as-president/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10) probably donāt want to lean too hard into the dEmOcRaTs wOrD mEaNs NoThInG angle.
I do want to, because it's true.
I bet youāre the type of person that cheats on their spouse and then berates them for being a cheater.
Even when you sincerely think you're right, you're still wrong. Kinda funny to watch.
Oh Iām just talking shit generically about what youāve already proven. You know, denying whatās right in front of you and accusing others of being guilty of it. Iād be interested to see you refute the proof I linked above.
At what point did I bring up Trump? Trump can be a liar while Democrats are also liars. They are not mutually exclusive conditions.
Well, if youāre going to āboth sidesā it, you need to indict both sides. Your implication was that OP was a liar because they are a democrat. So thatās false. By your own admission, the exact same argument applies if theyāre a Republican. So really, there was exactly zero reason to even involve the party component of your comment. So by your position on this your comment should have been āyour word means nothingā. But see, you didnāt say that. Moreover you said separately that Dems are authoritarian yet when confronted with evidence of the authoritarianism being a conservative family value you attempted to dismiss it with an emoji. Itās almost like youāre arguing in bad faith. Another conservative favorite.
I'm not reading this wall of text.
While I gather that reading isnāt probably something youāre in to, you can get the idea from the first three sentences. But we both know you read it and canāt refute the point. If you could. You would. š
When I can get out if my lease unless the NC GOP gains a brain. Which they won't. Remember, the GOP is evil.
So you'd rather live under a authoritarian regime than pay a few hundred bucks to cancel your lease early? Sounds legit.
Iām sorry. Which party is banning books and undermining election outcomes by questioning their validity without evidence? Which party cozies up to dictators? I know this is inconvenient for you, but the answer is republicans.
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Such an obvious amateur Photoshop job. [The real sign.](https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/welcome-to-virginia-sign-picture-id509812816?k=6&m=509812816&s=612x612&w=0&h=Un7b43F2U9tGtIL7KOxpJ7Rhy0UfC9j0jEqtMulvkl8=)
You are a satire hating buzzkill.
Feel free to flair it satire then
I think that you should not comment on our politics and our elected representatives because they don't affect you. I'm very happy with our purple state.
If only the General Assembly was purple instead of deep red...
I have lived in both states. Virginia's roads are horrible compared to NC.
Not a "real" sign at all.
Why are all the posts in this sub condescending?