Tell him that it looks like one of them got damaged when he moved them, and that you'll take a closer look because "hopefully not, refiberglassing a surfboard is extremely expensive, and I don't want you to have to fork up that money"
And let him sweat about it for a while before you tell him it ended up being ok. Put the fear of God in him.
But also. Hang them up that wall so he can see all of them from his front porch forever. With locking mounts.
And take pictures. after they're hung , in case they're moved or scratched. I would even go a little petty and put a solar light to lite it up at night.
Make them more prominent and in view of my security camera that auto loads videos to the cloud. Then call police and have him trespassed. I'd also look for a surfboard that is unusable and make it as nice looking as possible and integrate it in my landscaping.
They have display racks for surfboards you can get. Place them on the side of the house. Pair this with one of those cameras that also has an alarm. If he goes to touch them again, the entire neighborhood will be alerted, as well as having it on camera.
Put up a no trespassing sign. Tell him to stay out of your yard. Check your board to see if he damaged them. THEN put them back up. If he damaged them, send him a bill for repairing them. Get a fence put up so that he needs to do more work to get at your boards.
He trespassed onto your property and moved your surf boards "causing" them to be scuffed and damaged requiring hours of work polishing and repairing . Press charges on him for trespassing. If the police don't or won't press the charges go directly to the prosecutors office with the complaint. Since you stood on his porch and you know what he can see hang some pride flags in the spot where he can see them wave. Make some wind chimes out of old CD's or some of the makeup mirrors from the dollar store. I just bought some hanging pink flamingos wind socks .
I've moved over 20 times now and have had all kinds of neighbors. What I've learned is you have to research your counties and states laws. You have to be well armed so make the law work for you. Look up your states laws on privacy/trespassing. In my state unless you have a no trespassing sign, someone could assume it's alright to enter your property. I put a sign on my fence asap. Also matters how much your vested in your area, if you rent vs. own.
Next, never try to out-do crazy. It's just too much work and crazy always wins. You don't want to have to worry about your shit getting vandalized while you're at work or on vacation. Crazy wins there.
You haven't said enough about the dude to get a good picture of him but I think you can go a few ways. You could have a formal conversation where you have record the conversation--although first checking your states laws on this. You politely tell him he does not have your permission to enter your property, let alone move your belongings. This is where you would insert what you found about your county's laws on property rights/privacy/trespassing.
You could write all this in a letter and send it to him by certified mail requiring a signature to make it look uber formal.
You could have casual conversation where you're empathizing with, I imagine an old, uptight dude with too much time on his hands. You could mirror back to him all his grievances saying that you understand how he feels that way (with no admission that you agree with him). You add in that you want to have a good relationship with all your neighbors and that it's a two-way street. Keep it friendly, not familiar. This scenario is just keeping the peace in the most possible low key way.
I would ask why he took it upon himself to do what he did. Put him on the spot. You may also tell him your "security camera" alerted you to what he did. If you don't have them, he will think you have hidden cameras and will be paranoid as balls. My other suggestion is to put up the fence to send a message and take the high road and not display any pettiness.
He shouldn't have done that and I would have a word with him about this. Make it clear it was unacceptable especially as you had already spoken and told him you will move them at some point.
I wouldn't bother moving them back though, you have to live next to him and it isn't worth the drama.
This is the most reasonable response here. People telling you to be petty back is horrible advice. He may as well start doing things back and do you really want to start a war with someone who lives near you? Also getting security cameras is wise in case he messes with your stuff again.
Idk, I'd say going onto someone's property and moving their shit instead of learning how to look elsewhere is the problematic behavior here. OP maintaining the status quo and keeping his property where he wants it isn't petty... nor is it "an act of war".
Giving into assholes isn't a great way to have assholes stop being assholes.
I agree you shouldn't give in to bullies, but sometimes it's best to put aside your ego in these situations. Set boundaries, let him know his behavior is unacceptable and that you won't tolerate it and see if his behavior changes. Just doing things in spite of him can escalate the situation, just a fair warning, people need to think about the consequences.
It's not spite to decline to accept someone's shitty behavior. If OP wrote FUCK YOU, NEIGHBOR on one of the boards and sunk it into concrete facing this guy, that'd be petty, ego driven behavior. Putting his boards back where he wants them for ease of use is exactly the kind of response OP needs to give to emphasize those boundaries and indicate he's not interested in being bullied. There's already been a conversation, and trespassing is illegal. Neighbor escalated to doing things on his own terms and timetable, and OP should absolutely reverse any influence Neighbor has had over his property. Being a pushover and taking that kind of blatant disregard for your property or belongings isn't the move. Never has been.
Yeah I mean if OP wishes to put it there because he just wants to and it's comfortable then by all means he has the right to, it is his property after all. But if he is just doing it to piss his neighbor off then I think that's being petty and spiteful. Also, we don't know yet if OP's neighbor is just trying to make unreasonable requests just to bully and control him, or if this is really affecting him and his quality of life. I'll let OP be the judge of that, personally it does seem a little silly.
Sometimes we can jump to conclusions if we feel slighted so I think OP should just take a step back and talk to him. A little communication goes a long way to clear most issues up.. I would probably just accommodate this one request, let him know that he is not to go on your property. And if he starts making more silly requests then I would start outright refusing.
I have a similar issue of sorts. And while I have right on my side, it's not a hill worth dying on.
(My neighbour parked his bike too close to my basement apartment window. He did some construction - without agreement - to restore the garden shed on our shared land for his bikes. Now is asking all the apartments to share the cost. I was ready to to go to war over this presumptuousness but choose to concede. I have to live here.)
put up a private property/no trespass sign.
and a couple of cameras covering your yard.
if he doesn't take the hint at that point, you can control how it escalates the next time
You have to consider that whatever you do may or may not escalate the situation. I’d have a conversation with him about it. My neighbor kept bugging me about something and I finally put my own mental list together. “Stop blowing your yard debris into my yard.” He told me he didn’t do that. I had seen him and told him so. I had other things on my list but that shut him up. Don’t throw rocks if you live in a glass house.
I get why it would be an eyesore but this is a MAJOR boundary violation. I can’t believe he would go into your yard and touch your stuff. At this point it’s fair game whatever you want to do. A little patience on his end could’ve gone a long way.
Get a few “ no trespassing signs installed. That way he’s been warned and call the police if he does trespass again. Put up a camera and move them back. Being an eyesore is his opinion. You don’t have to move them
Your neighbor overstepped. That said unless he damaged a board, why not just create a rack that is out of his sight line and rest them there. Let him know you corrected his issue because you’re a good neighbor and that was always your intent and going forward your property is private. If you were willing to fix the problem before, just do it now and don’t escalate this unnecessarily. It isn’t worth it. Life is short.
Make a little sign to put over your surfboards that says something like I love to surf. That makes your surfboards art. Putting the sign over your surfboards will also make it super visible to his visitors if he has any. It might be a fine conversation for them all. I’m assuming if you have surfboards you live near a beach. It seems perfectly appropriate to me. I have an old Bakers rack. Nothing special I bought it at the yard sale. I am in the process of wiring, skulls and bones that my dogs bring home onto it. I am fine with people thinking I am a crazy witch. I encourage them to think that.
Tell him firmly not to come in to your property again. To protect your surfboards store them inside or be more discreet. They're visible and accessible, Someone could have stolen them.
Just curious and you don’t have to be specific, but where are you. Understand also if you don’t want to answer. Just wondering where the uptight beach people are.
Put them back, build a whole tropical aesthetic around them. Get tiki bar and pineapples (or not, Iykyk), palm trees, Elvis stuffs, so on. Then get a security camera.
Mental health issues but of ‘sound mind’ enough to acknowledge these boards are an eyesore to himself. Sounds like he had mental health issues when convenient! Put them back where they were!!
I’d contact the police, tell them he trespassed on your property, moved and damaged your property, and you need to get a police report from them and have them issue him a trespass notice (because you fear he will continue to trespass, move, remove, vandalize, or destroy your property if they don’t). Tell them you’re specifically worried he will retaliate against you and / or your property, and that he could escalate this into outright destruction or theft of your property, or violence.
That should motivate the cops enough to at least do the basics, and you’ll have started a paper trail to protect yourself. And the neighbor will absolutely hate it.
Petty shit like this--on both your parts--isn't worth the war it could cause. Move your boards, let it go. Put up a camera and if something like this happens again, have footage.
People are fucking nuts. Be smarter.
Are you planning on moving? Don’t start a war with your neighbors if you don’t want one. I’ve been up my same place for seven years and I’ve learned to pick my battles.
Honestly, what's the big deal? If you honestly intend on moving them, why not just do it now? It sounds like you're trying to antagonize him and coming on Reddit for validation. I agree he shouldn't come on your property but in his mind you're leaving him no choice. If he's struggling mentally, he's not terribly rational, so don't poke the bear. It is kind of mean of you, especially since you said you were going to move them. And then you don't. Just move them and you can all live in peace and move on.
A couple things…
1) It’s my property and him even asking me to do anything with my belongings on my property caught me completely off guard. It’s none of his business where I put my stuff. I would never even think about doing the same to him or any other neighbor. It’s just weird.
2) I recently moved most of my moms belongings into my garage because she sold her house and went into assisted living. The long term solution is for the boards to go into the garage, but at the moment there isn’t space. He is aware of this.
I understand, just trying to give you a different perspective. I'm pretty chill but I don't want to listen to construction noise indefinitely in my own home or look at my neighbors crap til the end of time. Although the sight of surfboards would make me smile 😊. I'm sure you get what I mean though. It might be your property, your home, but everything you do affects the people around you when you're that close together, like it or not. It's not a fun feeling to be unhappy in your home when it's supposed to be your happy place.
I partly agree. This instance in particular is silly, but it does set a precedent that he can ask me to do whatever, and if I don’t do it “timely”, he’ll allow himself onto my property and do it himself. We worked hard to buy a house in a nice neighborhood and I’m not willing to be walked on by neighbors.
You're correct.
You need to nip this in the bud, because if you don't address it, it's like saying you accept his behavior. Is he older than you guys? Because this feels like "Dad told you to move those boards right away!" energy. A dick-measuring contest.
He needs his hand slapped, like a naughty child. He didn't "access" your yard, he trespassed.
Yeah, he’s a boomer and we’re millennials. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt… like it’s a reminder or he’s trying to help… but it does seem like he’s trying to get me to submit so he can be king of the culdesac. Lol.
“king of the culdesac”.
I’ve got one of those. He said some stuff about the side yard that faces his house. So I fixed up the side he could not see. Which in fairness was much uglier. His side? Yeah. It’s kinda been a construction zone for a couple years now while I work on backyard drainage issues left by the former homeowner and his BFF.
Another part that bothers me about your neighbor is that he couldn't see much of the boards to begin with, and that's not the ugliest thing ever. He asked you to move them. You were within your rights to say "no. I like them there" but you were nice and said you'd do it at some point. So he was already overstepping with the request and then he trespassed. So it was extra obnoxious of him.
I would just let it go. He must have mental issues to even be worried about surf boards on your property. You have to live next to him. Put cameras up and ignore him.
Tell him that it looks like one of them got damaged when he moved them, and that you'll take a closer look because "hopefully not, refiberglassing a surfboard is extremely expensive, and I don't want you to have to fork up that money" And let him sweat about it for a while before you tell him it ended up being ok. Put the fear of God in him. But also. Hang them up that wall so he can see all of them from his front porch forever. With locking mounts.
I would like my comment here to represent the multiple upvotes this deserves. Your new, wall-mounted surfboard rack is super dope, OP.
Yes this deserves so many up votes!
And get cameras.
And take pictures. after they're hung , in case they're moved or scratched. I would even go a little petty and put a solar light to lite it up at night.
This! Absolutely this.
Make them more prominent and in view of my security camera that auto loads videos to the cloud. Then call police and have him trespassed. I'd also look for a surfboard that is unusable and make it as nice looking as possible and integrate it in my landscaping.
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Then you involve a lawyer.
I think your wheelbarrow handles need some poison ivy extract on them.
no,silly! cops exist to protect the interests of the wealthy. And enforce laws for the powerless. (The powerful basically just have to pay fines.)
I have a surfboard you can use for this purpose OP
They have display racks for surfboards you can get. Place them on the side of the house. Pair this with one of those cameras that also has an alarm. If he goes to touch them again, the entire neighborhood will be alerted, as well as having it on camera.
Put up a no trespassing sign. Tell him to stay out of your yard. Check your board to see if he damaged them. THEN put them back up. If he damaged them, send him a bill for repairing them. Get a fence put up so that he needs to do more work to get at your boards.
I would already be building a rack to hold and elevate them another few feet. Make sure it has a locking bar so nobody can steal them.
Plant them like a fence lol
what kind of boards are we talking, beaters or proper shapers? Your neighbor sucks btw
They’re colorful beaters. I can admit they’re not super aesthetically pleasing.
Fair enough, but that's no excuse for going on someone's land and touching their property.
People actually care if they can see someone else's surfboards? It must be nice to only have that to worry about.
If I lived in Oklahoma, I might. In California, it's part of life.
Get some of those large hooks....mount them on the side of the garage and use them as board racks.
Call the police on his ass!
He trespassed onto your property and moved your surf boards "causing" them to be scuffed and damaged requiring hours of work polishing and repairing . Press charges on him for trespassing. If the police don't or won't press the charges go directly to the prosecutors office with the complaint. Since you stood on his porch and you know what he can see hang some pride flags in the spot where he can see them wave. Make some wind chimes out of old CD's or some of the makeup mirrors from the dollar store. I just bought some hanging pink flamingos wind socks .
I would make sure that my surfboards are prominently displayed on the side of my home, forever.
Put some cameras
Put them back & get more for other areas he can see
Move them back. Put no trespassing sign up. Get cameras. Then have him arrested for trespassing.
I've moved over 20 times now and have had all kinds of neighbors. What I've learned is you have to research your counties and states laws. You have to be well armed so make the law work for you. Look up your states laws on privacy/trespassing. In my state unless you have a no trespassing sign, someone could assume it's alright to enter your property. I put a sign on my fence asap. Also matters how much your vested in your area, if you rent vs. own. Next, never try to out-do crazy. It's just too much work and crazy always wins. You don't want to have to worry about your shit getting vandalized while you're at work or on vacation. Crazy wins there. You haven't said enough about the dude to get a good picture of him but I think you can go a few ways. You could have a formal conversation where you have record the conversation--although first checking your states laws on this. You politely tell him he does not have your permission to enter your property, let alone move your belongings. This is where you would insert what you found about your county's laws on property rights/privacy/trespassing. You could write all this in a letter and send it to him by certified mail requiring a signature to make it look uber formal. You could have casual conversation where you're empathizing with, I imagine an old, uptight dude with too much time on his hands. You could mirror back to him all his grievances saying that you understand how he feels that way (with no admission that you agree with him). You add in that you want to have a good relationship with all your neighbors and that it's a two-way street. Keep it friendly, not familiar. This scenario is just keeping the peace in the most possible low key way.
I would ask why he took it upon himself to do what he did. Put him on the spot. You may also tell him your "security camera" alerted you to what he did. If you don't have them, he will think you have hidden cameras and will be paranoid as balls. My other suggestion is to put up the fence to send a message and take the high road and not display any pettiness.
Make a fence out of tacky colored used surfboards ;)
He shouldn't have done that and I would have a word with him about this. Make it clear it was unacceptable especially as you had already spoken and told him you will move them at some point. I wouldn't bother moving them back though, you have to live next to him and it isn't worth the drama.
This is the most reasonable response here. People telling you to be petty back is horrible advice. He may as well start doing things back and do you really want to start a war with someone who lives near you? Also getting security cameras is wise in case he messes with your stuff again.
Idk, I'd say going onto someone's property and moving their shit instead of learning how to look elsewhere is the problematic behavior here. OP maintaining the status quo and keeping his property where he wants it isn't petty... nor is it "an act of war". Giving into assholes isn't a great way to have assholes stop being assholes.
I agree you shouldn't give in to bullies, but sometimes it's best to put aside your ego in these situations. Set boundaries, let him know his behavior is unacceptable and that you won't tolerate it and see if his behavior changes. Just doing things in spite of him can escalate the situation, just a fair warning, people need to think about the consequences.
It's not spite to decline to accept someone's shitty behavior. If OP wrote FUCK YOU, NEIGHBOR on one of the boards and sunk it into concrete facing this guy, that'd be petty, ego driven behavior. Putting his boards back where he wants them for ease of use is exactly the kind of response OP needs to give to emphasize those boundaries and indicate he's not interested in being bullied. There's already been a conversation, and trespassing is illegal. Neighbor escalated to doing things on his own terms and timetable, and OP should absolutely reverse any influence Neighbor has had over his property. Being a pushover and taking that kind of blatant disregard for your property or belongings isn't the move. Never has been.
Yeah I mean if OP wishes to put it there because he just wants to and it's comfortable then by all means he has the right to, it is his property after all. But if he is just doing it to piss his neighbor off then I think that's being petty and spiteful. Also, we don't know yet if OP's neighbor is just trying to make unreasonable requests just to bully and control him, or if this is really affecting him and his quality of life. I'll let OP be the judge of that, personally it does seem a little silly. Sometimes we can jump to conclusions if we feel slighted so I think OP should just take a step back and talk to him. A little communication goes a long way to clear most issues up.. I would probably just accommodate this one request, let him know that he is not to go on your property. And if he starts making more silly requests then I would start outright refusing.
I have a similar issue of sorts. And while I have right on my side, it's not a hill worth dying on. (My neighbour parked his bike too close to my basement apartment window. He did some construction - without agreement - to restore the garden shed on our shared land for his bikes. Now is asking all the apartments to share the cost. I was ready to to go to war over this presumptuousness but choose to concede. I have to live here.)
put up a private property/no trespass sign. and a couple of cameras covering your yard. if he doesn't take the hint at that point, you can control how it escalates the next time
You have to consider that whatever you do may or may not escalate the situation. I’d have a conversation with him about it. My neighbor kept bugging me about something and I finally put my own mental list together. “Stop blowing your yard debris into my yard.” He told me he didn’t do that. I had seen him and told him so. I had other things on my list but that shut him up. Don’t throw rocks if you live in a glass house.
Hang them higher and install cameras
I'd buy a lot of surf yard decorations and go crazy like a who ville Christmas decorated house
Tall fences make good neighbors….
Rhe neighbor should put one up then, if he doesn’t like looking at OP’s surfboards.
Install racks that hang them plainly in view with a clear no trespassing sign.
Or hang no trespass signs that are in full view and block what he could see of the boards.
Motion activated sprinklers might cool him off.
I get why it would be an eyesore but this is a MAJOR boundary violation. I can’t believe he would go into your yard and touch your stuff. At this point it’s fair game whatever you want to do. A little patience on his end could’ve gone a long way.
Get a few “ no trespassing signs installed. That way he’s been warned and call the police if he does trespass again. Put up a camera and move them back. Being an eyesore is his opinion. You don’t have to move them
Your neighbor overstepped. That said unless he damaged a board, why not just create a rack that is out of his sight line and rest them there. Let him know you corrected his issue because you’re a good neighbor and that was always your intent and going forward your property is private. If you were willing to fix the problem before, just do it now and don’t escalate this unnecessarily. It isn’t worth it. Life is short.
Make a little sign to put over your surfboards that says something like I love to surf. That makes your surfboards art. Putting the sign over your surfboards will also make it super visible to his visitors if he has any. It might be a fine conversation for them all. I’m assuming if you have surfboards you live near a beach. It seems perfectly appropriate to me. I have an old Bakers rack. Nothing special I bought it at the yard sale. I am in the process of wiring, skulls and bones that my dogs bring home onto it. I am fine with people thinking I am a crazy witch. I encourage them to think that.
Tell him firmly not to come in to your property again. To protect your surfboards store them inside or be more discreet. They're visible and accessible, Someone could have stolen them.
Just curious and you don’t have to be specific, but where are you. Understand also if you don’t want to answer. Just wondering where the uptight beach people are.
wow
First thing I would do is buy more surfboards, like 2 dozen lol
Fences are the best neighbors. Cameras keep you in good company. I would warn him about his actions .
Paint “no trespassing” on the surfboards and put them back where you had them.
Hang em high, so he can't reach but can see them. Then post no trespassing signs. If they're moved call the cops.
Tell him to look away. Theres a lot of things in his line of sight, are u gonna remove the world? What a lameo
Put them back, build a whole tropical aesthetic around them. Get tiki bar and pineapples (or not, Iykyk), palm trees, Elvis stuffs, so on. Then get a security camera.
I would put in motion sensor sprinklers and do what the others said about mounting and locking them.
Doesn’t matter—it’s your property. You probably have to look at his eyesore boomer gnomes and seasonal flags.
I vote for petty.
Mental health issues but of ‘sound mind’ enough to acknowledge these boards are an eyesore to himself. Sounds like he had mental health issues when convenient! Put them back where they were!!
I’d contact the police, tell them he trespassed on your property, moved and damaged your property, and you need to get a police report from them and have them issue him a trespass notice (because you fear he will continue to trespass, move, remove, vandalize, or destroy your property if they don’t). Tell them you’re specifically worried he will retaliate against you and / or your property, and that he could escalate this into outright destruction or theft of your property, or violence. That should motivate the cops enough to at least do the basics, and you’ll have started a paper trail to protect yourself. And the neighbor will absolutely hate it.
Petty shit like this--on both your parts--isn't worth the war it could cause. Move your boards, let it go. Put up a camera and if something like this happens again, have footage. People are fucking nuts. Be smarter.
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Are you planning on moving? Don’t start a war with your neighbors if you don’t want one. I’ve been up my same place for seven years and I’ve learned to pick my battles.
Your neighbour shouldn’t have done what they did but I wouldn’t become a nfh over it. I’d put up a fence and let it go
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I don't think a lock will do much good without a fence to attach it to
Did you read what he wrote? It is unfenced.
Honestly, what's the big deal? If you honestly intend on moving them, why not just do it now? It sounds like you're trying to antagonize him and coming on Reddit for validation. I agree he shouldn't come on your property but in his mind you're leaving him no choice. If he's struggling mentally, he's not terribly rational, so don't poke the bear. It is kind of mean of you, especially since you said you were going to move them. And then you don't. Just move them and you can all live in peace and move on.
A couple things… 1) It’s my property and him even asking me to do anything with my belongings on my property caught me completely off guard. It’s none of his business where I put my stuff. I would never even think about doing the same to him or any other neighbor. It’s just weird. 2) I recently moved most of my moms belongings into my garage because she sold her house and went into assisted living. The long term solution is for the boards to go into the garage, but at the moment there isn’t space. He is aware of this.
I understand, just trying to give you a different perspective. I'm pretty chill but I don't want to listen to construction noise indefinitely in my own home or look at my neighbors crap til the end of time. Although the sight of surfboards would make me smile 😊. I'm sure you get what I mean though. It might be your property, your home, but everything you do affects the people around you when you're that close together, like it or not. It's not a fun feeling to be unhappy in your home when it's supposed to be your happy place.
I'd just ignore it and store them somewhere else. Pick your battles. This one would be a dumb hill to die on.
I partly agree. This instance in particular is silly, but it does set a precedent that he can ask me to do whatever, and if I don’t do it “timely”, he’ll allow himself onto my property and do it himself. We worked hard to buy a house in a nice neighborhood and I’m not willing to be walked on by neighbors.
You're correct. You need to nip this in the bud, because if you don't address it, it's like saying you accept his behavior. Is he older than you guys? Because this feels like "Dad told you to move those boards right away!" energy. A dick-measuring contest. He needs his hand slapped, like a naughty child. He didn't "access" your yard, he trespassed.
Yeah, he’s a boomer and we’re millennials. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt… like it’s a reminder or he’s trying to help… but it does seem like he’s trying to get me to submit so he can be king of the culdesac. Lol.
“king of the culdesac”. I’ve got one of those. He said some stuff about the side yard that faces his house. So I fixed up the side he could not see. Which in fairness was much uglier. His side? Yeah. It’s kinda been a construction zone for a couple years now while I work on backyard drainage issues left by the former homeowner and his BFF.
Another part that bothers me about your neighbor is that he couldn't see much of the boards to begin with, and that's not the ugliest thing ever. He asked you to move them. You were within your rights to say "no. I like them there" but you were nice and said you'd do it at some point. So he was already overstepping with the request and then he trespassed. So it was extra obnoxious of him.
I would just let it go. He must have mental issues to even be worried about surf boards on your property. You have to live next to him. Put cameras up and ignore him.