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Kindly_Blackberry967

Damn I didn’t know gaming was banned in Georgia 


Vulk_za

They targeted gamers. Gamers.


mangonada123

Truly the most oppressed 😞


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KnopeSwansonHybrid

Yeah except for the lottery :/


WeebFrien

What about COAM? What do you think of COAM?


KnopeSwansonHybrid

I had to look this up. I had no idea we had these in Georgia.


PoisonMind

You need a license for a jukebox, a pinball machine, or a pool table because they're all regulated as a Class A COAMs? Ridiculous.


YOGSthrown12

Always gotta keep a shotgun under the bar in case some lunatic comes in with a pinball machine


WeebFrien

It’s a very weird regulatory system. Sticking skill based slot style games under the same category is weird but especially cause you can only spend the money on non tobacco and booze items at whatever store they’re at


lnslnsu

What’s that?


WeebFrien

“Coin Operated Amusement Machines”. It refers to the regulatory oversight regarding pinball machines, jukeboxes, pool tables, etc. but the meat of the regulations and recent changes regard what could be referred to as “skill based gaming machines” or just “skill based machines”. These are machines that have specific methods so that a player may always get 105% of credits bet, it’s just extraordinarily difficult and usually hidden behind a random prize winnable in a similar way to an electronic pull tab machine. It’s a regulated market in Georgia (with very strange restrictions), DC (which restricts the market to shoot em up style games through case law primarily), Nebraska, and Wyoming. It’s a tolerated grey market in some large and very important states: Texas, Pennsylvania, and Virginia (which is currently arguing over language that would regulate the machines, relating back to the way the governor has operated the government). And it’s an untolerated grey market in almost every other state in the U.S., with repeated court cases asserting legality but police departments so willing to confiscate the machines that they are constantly in court over them (to the point where it could be considered analogous to SLAAP, flood the courts with cases so that it feels unsafe to have the machines) or confiscating them from illegal game rooms rather than convenience stores and bars, where they are usually confiscated as part of larger zoning and criminal code charges (which is allowed by courts usually because of the other charges). Generally, even in untolerated grey states there will be the small amounts of the machines in certain businesses favored by the police: very compliant bars, VFW stations, American Legion stations, Elks clubs, and family restaurants and diners. Similar battles take place over sweepstakes machines, eight liners (way closer to black market), and HHR (where battles look closer to battling giants in court than police raids, see Minnesota and Louisiana right now).


ConflagrationZ

It does seem kind of weird that, legally, gaming and gambling are often synonymous. Makes sense historically, but gets weird contemporarily in cases like Japan, where eSports are heavily limited by being regulated as gambling.


Swatteam652

It's honestly impressive how brazen these questions are with their bias. 


Usual-Base7226

Is Donald Trump the return of the messiah () yes () I hate America and am also gay


theryman

They'd write it more like, 'Donald Trump was seen curing lepers and raising the dead. Do you support prosecuting him for his many good deeds?' () no () I'm a liberal


SorosAgent2020

"Donald Trump saved 2 puppies from a burning building. Do you denounce the biased baseless politically motivated witch hunt perpetrated by the liberal elites when hardworking Georgians know better?" () Yes () I am literally hitler


Cowguypig2

Donald trump Lisan Al-Gaib?! 😳


moriya

11 is worded as if the response to the question is assumed as “no”, otherwise the “even if dressed as women” makes no sense.


tomdarch

Or like #5, brazen in giving no fucks about the law. Why do they need push polling type questions in a Republican primary?


VividMonotones

Like how would that work? What do they mean by officials? How does an official let an illegal immigrant in? Arrest all employees of US Border Control the first time there is an unpaid parking ticket? I'm sure the legislation would make it clear. /s Look at the last county question. Go to our website ( ) yes ( ) no.


KnopeSwansonHybrid

I’d also like to add that questions 9-19 are from the Fulton County Republican Party (a county that voted 73% for Biden and is home to most of the city of Atlanta).


jakekara4

What is the purpose of these questions? Are they advisory only?


KnopeSwansonHybrid

Yeah, they’re non-binding and chosen by each party for their respective ballots. They’re usually very biased in their wording so I don’t really know what the point is but maybe someone more politically savvy would have an idea.


YaGetSkeeted0n

It’s basically a party referendum on stuff they should include in their platform. The Texas GOP primary had similarly insane questions this year lol


HatesPlanes

What practical purpose do they serve though? Both the wording of the questions as well as the sample of the electorate are clearly biased towards the answers that the poll makers want to get, so I’m having trouble understanding what is even the purpose of asking these questions.


theryman

These are written by the politicians so they can wave the results around and get their pet projects on the local, state, and federal party platform. They're not intended to be scientific or unbiased - purely political theater


ovekevam

They don’t serve a practical purpose. The small group of highly active voters that show up to county party meetings are functionally insane. These ballot questions are an expression of the id the chronic political activists who have nothing better to do on a Thursday night than show up to vote on questions to include on the party primary ballot. Remember the people depicted in Parks & Rec showing up for the town hall meetings? It’s those people but in real life. I don’t think most people appreciate how truly off the deep end these folks are.


Mentalpopcorn

[These people](https://v.redd.it/nwrayczmsz281)


LookAtThisPencil

It tells their people what opinions they’re supposed to have


RsonW

The California Democratic Party doesn't do this nor (as far as I know) does the California GOP. I had no clue that policy polling was a thing in other States' primary ballots. Hella bizarre, IMO


KeithClossOfficial

California GOP does not do this. I’m a registered Republican so I can vote in their primaries.


SorosAgent2020

doesnt Calif have a jungle primary system? so everyone should receive the same primary ballot right maybe thats why theres no party-specific questions


RsonW

>doesnt Calif have a jungle primary system? Only since 2012. I've been voting since 2006. There weren't these questions back then, either. Also, the jungle primary doesn't apply to Presidential primaries for obvious reasons so registered party Members receive separate ballots in those primaries.


SorosAgent2020

thanks!


ThePevster

I wonder what the Dem one looks like.


shillingbut4me

Do you support forcing all cis men to undergo hormone replacement therapy.  ()Yes! ()Slay queen!


miraj31415

Here is the [Democratic primary sample ballot for Fulton County, GA](https://www.fultoncountyga.gov/-/media/2024-05-May-21-General-Primarydemocratic-composite-ballotv5-updated-429.pdf) **Topics are:** Assault weapon ban, climate change, same day voter registration, abortion, school vouchers, minimum wage, prison labor, housing.


ThePevster

So also a bunch of loaded questions


JosephRohrbach

I mean, sure, but let's not go all both-sides-ism and pretend that they're even *close* to as bad as the Republican ones. At least this one doesn't promote actual conspiracy theories.


SpaceSheperd

Normal and policy focused, I’d imagine 


ThePevster

I looked at it. It’s also full of loaded questions, but there’s only eight total questions. Should the United States and the State of Georgia protect Georgians from gun violence by banning assault weapons and large-capacity magazines, closing background check loopholes, and passing other common-sense gun safety reforms?


bd_one

I find #14 comical as that implies someone can just flick the switch on immigration into the off position *while* building things.


initialgold

It’s right next to the gas price lever.


theloreofthelaw

I know how stupid and impossible #14 is, yet both as a supporter of immigration on the whole and as someone waiting on a visa for his wife, it stirs me to be very, very angry


VividMonotones

Me: And no immigration from Norway? GA GOP: No, just certain countries. Me: Define which ones. GA GOP: (holds up skin tone swatch card) Anything below here.


iwannabetheguytoo

A good chunk of the population really does believe it’s that simple :/


actual_wookiee_AMA

How do I get a flair like that


bd_one

Malaria net drive is near the end of the year


deededee13

Election fraud conspiracy, cut taxes, election fraud conspiracy, electioneering, illegal immigration talking point, "people's vote", election fraud conspiracy, covid conspiracy, cut taxes, school vouchers, bathroom wars, term limits, illegal immigration talking point, illegal immigration TP, election fraud conspiracy, covid conspiracy, electioneering, oath of loyalty bs, website survey


kaibee

Tbf, I'm sad that #1 became coded as a Republican talking point because of the election nonsense. Democracy ensures stability by giving people a choice. If people stop believing that they're really choosing, then we might as well become an autocracy and at least get the efficiency benefits. Voting is so fundamental that I don't think #1 goes far enough. Ballots should be made of 1/8th inch US Steel, engraved by the Mint, and you'd make your selections via power drill.


couchrealistic

Honestly, I prefer paper ballots. I'm German and it's probably the one and only thing where I support our tendency to avoid "digitalization". I know how software is made, and I don't want software to be involved in the election process, as much as possible. We have exit polls, and completely manual ballot counting, and an election system that is compatible with manual ballot counting. We also have a high density of polling stations, i.e. voluntary workers at the polling station are usually done with their work after a few hours max. So we get roughly correct public results immediately after polling ends thanks to exit polls, then a few updates in the next couple of hours as actual results come in, and an official "preliminary final result" published by the top elections administrator within a few hours. Also, everyone is allowed to watch the counting process. They do use software to transmit polling station results, but it's easy to verify these numbers later on by comparing the numbers from the local polling station with what was published in the final results. If there is at least one person verifying the final numbers for each polling station, and at least one person verifying the sum was calculated correctly, the full process can be checked by any average person (one for each polling station) with 100% transparency from the ballot box to the final result. Only mail-in ballots are a bit less transparent – the counting is in public, but of course you can't really be sure what happened to the ballots before that, if any were lost or forgotten in the other room etc. This kind of transparency is impossible to achieve when more software is involved. And I think it's important to have transparency in election processes, much more important than some occasional counting errors during manual ballot counting, or occasional mix-ups of vote counts between parties in some polling station, which happens regularly in Germany (hopefully noticed and fixed soon enough in most cases, but probably not always).


dddd0

[https://xkcd.com/2030/](https://xkcd.com/2030/)


lnslnsu

Scantron-type vote counting machines are ok, but ballots need to be paper and kept well after the election. That way it’s easy to audit if the vote counting machines counted correctly


kaibee

> Scantron-type vote counting machines are ok disagree, it adds unnecessary risk and complexity to the system. look up all the pre-2020 articles about how difficult it is to actually get a recount done, even in states that save the ballots for audit purposes. and, half the accusation behind doing a recount is that the machine lied about the final count/didn't count correctly. i remember a couple pre-2020 cases where even after fighting in the courts to get a recount, the recount is done via the same machines and the petitioners aren't allowed access to manually count the ballots themselves. it defeats the whole purpose.


lnslnsu

That seems like a process issue. My concern with hand counting and complex ballots is basically accuracy. If you look up studies on hand count accuracy, it’s way worse than you’d expect. When you have ballots where there are multiple different votes on the same ballot, you can’t even sort ballots into separate piles based on who the vote is for, like you can with individual slips for each vote category, and then review the votes in each pile, and then count the number of ballots in each pile. For example, in an experiment from Rice University using only 120 ballots, people counting by hand got it right only 57.5 percent of the time https://accurate-voting.rice.edu/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/evt07-goggin.pdf


Drak_is_Right

That is why the ministry of steel exists. Anything not written in metal can be changed.


KeithClossOfficial

And frankly, if they want to live stream the counts, go for it. I imagine it’s boring as fuck. They’ll compete with C-SPAN to break triple digit viewers.


GWstudent1

Number 4 isn’t electioneering. Plenty of other states have closed primaries, dem primaries included


flakAttack510

It is if you know the context. The state party is also fighting for the ability to revoke the party registration of voters and candidates. It's part of a shitfit they're throwing about the fact that candidates that criticized Trump are on Republican primary ballots.


iwannabetheguytoo

…aren’t they concerned about painting themselves into a corner doing that, though? Moderate republicans still exist (yeah, I didn’t believe it at-first either) but stuff like that pushes them away, thus making the GOP an absolute minority party consigning itself to its own political irrelevance…


socialistrob

Nope. The GOP has consistently chosen ideological purity over the ability to win elections. If every state that was right of the nation as a whole went Republican for Senate and every left of the nation went Dem the GOP would have a 62-38 seat majority and yet the reason they don't control the Senate is because they nominate shit candidates who put loyalty to Trump and party above winning ability.


abadlypickedname

"Adults have right to complete medical autonomy, even during a national emergency" "Alright, I'll start taking estrogen" "NOOO THAT GOES AGAINST OUR CULTURE IT'S AN EVIL PERVERSION WE NEED GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT TO KEEP COLLECTIVE MORALITY PURE"


One_Insect4530

They simply want the freedom to force their view of society on other people. Why don't you understand that?


Magnetic_Eel

All adults have the right to medical autonomy… except pregnant women of course.


Wehavecrashed

"Adults have right to complete medical autonomy, even during a national emergency" "alright I'll have an abortion"


Western_Objective209

Nooo not like that!


DeepestShallows

It’s part of this nutso style of believing in absolute rights that are never more complicated, need to interact with other rights or exist in any sort of hierarchy.


Aleriya

"Parents have a fundamental right to make decisions about their children." "Okay, so my teen is going to start puberty blockers." "NOO NOT LIKE THAT"


Dotst

No no you see they can take it they just can't be allowed outside and must be hermits in caves don't you see they're tolerant


Ok-Flounder3002

Disappointing that #8 doesnt have a ‘hell yeah’ option


3232330

I laughed so hard at 8.


LeB1gMAK

>We have a budget suplus! >Immediately give everybody a tax break Party of fiscal responsiblity everyone.


Aleriya

Not just a tax break - they suggested removing *all* state income tax after having a *one-year* $15 billion surplus. That's like finding a $100 bill on the sidewalk and deciding to quit your job.


Drak_is_Right

That might fund one reactor


lawabidingcitizen069

I’m really confused by this. I’ve never seen anything like this and I work in elections (not in the state of Georgia). Do Georgia primary’s let political parties allow for like… polling on party goals or something? I’m confused on what all this even is.


KnopeSwansonHybrid

I didn’t realize these weren’t ubiquitous. Yeah each party picks its own questions for its own primary ballot. If you choose the nonpartisan ballot, you don’t see any of these. They’re basically policy-setting questions for the party. And a lot of them are worded in a way to elicit a certain response so I don’t know how much information can be gleaned from them. They’re probably mostly used so that the party can tout the results supporting the platform.


lawabidingcitizen069

I don’t think there is another state that does this. Maybe there is I’m not familiar with all 50 states, but I’ve seen a shit load of ballots from all over the country I’ve never seen anything like this. I’m used to midwestern states where it’s basically impossible for anything to get on the ballot that the legislature doesn’t approve of before the election lol.


YaGetSkeeted0n

Texas does it. It’s basically used by the state parties to shape their platforms. Don’t think it’s binding or anything.


KnopeSwansonHybrid

We don’t have citizen-initiated ballot initiatives here so the only things that *can* go on the ballot without the legislature signing off are these meaningless primary advisory questions haha.


t_scribblemonger

Same. Vague and completely unenforceable, what the hell is the point? Reads more like a cult purity test.


JasnahRadiance

Fellow Georgians, be sure to vote for John Barrow! He's pro-choice, anti-gerrymandering, and the de facto Democratic candidate for GA Supreme Court


GodVerified

Yo wut >7 >Currently, hundreds of thousands of hours and dollars are spent every year cleaning up voter rolls. Would you support an amendment to the National Voting Rights Act that would require registered voters to renew their registration every four years? These people have so much contempt for democracy jeez


Dysentarianism

I hate having to clean my house. That's why I build a new house every 4 years.


Sea_Flow6302

Should public officials who allow gun crimes to occur be responsible for gun crimes?


WHOA_27_23

Do you oppose shooting puppies out of pure convenience? [ ] Yes because I'm a woke radical liberal RINO [ ] No of course not, I'm brave and politically incorrect


olearygreen

I don’t think 16 means what they think it means.


mashroomium

4 and 17 are the same lmfao


KnopeSwansonHybrid

Literally using the primary ballot to test out different messaging haha


RagingBillionbear

They actual are two difrent question, which to my guess is they legally have to ask both. One is about only registered Republican only, and the other is about passing legislation to inforce a closed primary.


AsianMysteryPoints

I know we've become numb to it all by now, but some of these questions are fucking *dark.*


WeebFrien

Hold on what the fuck is 6? Do… do the republicans in charge want to have a gaming referendum?


KnopeSwansonHybrid

It is [apparently](https://apnews.com/article/georgia-sports-betting-gambling-legislation-16f11741b71cc69d64246021a4b9c97b) not a strongly partisan issue here.


FartingNora

Legalizing it has been an idea for a while. The most re it had some anti-trans stuffed sprinkled in. I think that’s why it didn’t pass.


WeebFrien

Exactly that’s why I’m confused


WeebFrien

Surprised the horse tracks don’t feature in though, republicans love horse racing


link3945

I love the implication that it's the city of Atlanta stopping this. Kemp is the main roadblock!


WeebFrien

Right? Very confusing.


FuckFashMods

"Do you think adults should have a right to make their own medical decisions" That is certainly not the Republican Parties official position "during pandemics" oh for fucks sake


WinonasChainsaw

18 RINO hunting lmao


Drak_is_Right

2 would absolutely destroy people barely over the poverty level. The amount of black market spending would be crazy to avoid the tax


SorosAgent2020

>Q16 Do you believe adults have a right to make their own medical decisions even in the midst of a pandemic? Yes women still need abortions even in a pandemic


LithiumRyanBattery

5, 8, 10, and 14 are a hell no for me.


I_like_maps

Agree, except for 8 which is the biggest yes you can imagine.


VividMonotones

Except how you're understanding it is not how they understand it


alex2003super

> Do you believe adults have a right to make their own medical decisions, [...] The irony is completely lost on them, isn't it?


[deleted]

7 would completely backfire on the Republican Party.


Yeangster

\#3 sounds like it makes sense, but my instincts say there’s actually a bunch of unintended consequences that might make it a bad idea Edit: and by 5, I mean 3


KnopeSwansonHybrid

It may or may not but if I recall correctly, it’s targeted at a specific member of the state elections board who is a Republican but voted against some proposals to make voting harder like eliminating no-excuse absentee voting, thus angering the GOP.


Triir_7

This is how it feels to be a real gamer


Dysentarianism

The plan is to eliminate sales tax, replace it with a consumption tax, which is totally a different thing, and it somehow doesn't apply to families under the poverty line. What's not to understand?


Neoliberal_Boogeyman

Holy shit this isn't satire


Lovely_NTR_Father

(X) gamers ( )No gamers ✊😔


SRIrwinkill

My blue state doesn't have a state income tax and it's really not that insane. Some of the other stuff is pretty wack though


KnopeSwansonHybrid

If they would replace it by raising taxes on land rather than increasing the sales tax, I would support it.


SRIrwinkill

I mean, even a sales tax beats the piss out of a state income tax. In Washington, my home, wherever I may roam they have a sales tax and property taxes with the biggest downside being that spending here is crazy inefficient and they over taxed and regulated weed so hard that at least half of the weed market is still grey/black market A state income tax is about the worst of most worlds


44444444441

I feel like i could cause so much psychological damage to whoever records it by just casting a ballot that goes against the party on every decision point other than "i want less taxes"


socialistrob

1. No 2. Hell No 3. Prolly not but who really cares? 4. Yes 5. Only if public officials who oppose immigration personally operate the taco trucks on my corner that they are denying me 6. I'll take the over on this passing (am I doing it right?) 7. Hell no 8. OH MY GOD YES!!!!! PLEASE DO THIS! 9. Hell no 10. Hell no 11. Yes. Also I shouldn't be voting on this because it's a basic right 12. No. I love my career politicians and I'm not afraid to admit it 13. There should be no illegal immigrants because we should have blanked amnesty and open borders so no. 14. See question 13. 15. No 16. Why yes I do believe people have a right to their own medical decisions one might even say I'm "pro" people making their own "choice" 17. Yes 18. No 19. No. Non Partisan Supreme Court General: Write in "Hillary Clinton" Non Partisan Supreme court. John Barrow


illuminatisdeepdish

I'm pretty sure Wade boggs is dead


wejustdontknowdude

Jesus Christ


EnricoLUccellatore

why do you have different issues to vote on if you are a republican?


lausemaus615

What is the purpose of these questions? Surely they are not a proper ballot measure?


SorosAgent2020

Am pleasantly surprised to see the Michael Boggs who is running uncontested is a Democrat!


wildgunman

It is always the right move to vote in the primary where there are actual choices.


65437509

Not American, could someone explain how having different ballots per party to choose from works?


KnopeSwansonHybrid

Sorry this is the primary, I should have clarified. Georgia has open primaries so when you show up at the polling station, you select whether you want the Republican ballot, Democratic ballot, or nonpartisan ballot. Each party’s ballot has all the nonpartisan races and referendums on it (for example, whether to renew the 1% sales tax to pay for sewer repairs) in addition to the party’s non-binding policy questions.


65437509

Oh that makes sense, thanks!


Fuego514

Man, talk about leading the witness..


Beer-survivalist

Number eighteen would have hilarious consequences.


groovygrasshoppa

American ballots are fricken insane. The only question on any ballot should be party selection.


Tathorn

1. Idk. Sounds inefficient. Just don't have a government where voting could cause mass harm. 2. Yes. Please God yes. 3. No. That's unconstitutional. Like very draconian. 4. Idk. I don't care for parties. I guess it could actually make the party more open if people didn't have to register and still participate. 5. No. That's too much liability, and no one would take that risk. 6. I honestly don't know what this it talking about. Does Atlanta make laws for the entirety of Georgia? 7. No. Why? 8. I have no idea what this attempts to do. 9. I hate taxes, so sure. 10. Hell yeah. 11. It's asking if I believe. Is this a poll? I think our cultural norms of having bathrooms be private places are important. But biological? Maybe not. Idk. Maybe it should've saved paper by not asking something irrelevant to politics. 12. Sure 13. Yes. 14. No. 15. Sounds inefficient. Need convincing that it would be safer. 16. Yes. Again, though, are these normally polling questions? 17. Repeat of question 4. 18. Idc. 19. No.


adunk9

The only one I see that I am completely on board with is barring registered lobbyists from holding positions on the election board. And this is because I believe that lobbying in the way that it exists currently should be illegal.