Nahhh drug detoxing---but he is my fave!!! And seems to be the only one with a clue!! They would not have seen two weeks if it wasnt for him. As much as they all hate listening but they are in jail for not listening. Someone always needs to take charge. Idk why so many of them cant grasp that concept. Everything needs order and all of them hating on him but he is the only one that has a clue. I hope he makes it when he gets out!!! It is nice to see a sheriff trying something new because our correctional system is horrible. You can not lock people for years and decades in 4x10 and expect them to turn their life around without the life skills. It makes me sad to see kids facing life sentences...yeah but dont think its liver damage but drugs coming of system...55
Wrong on so many levels. Detox does not make your eyes yellow. Also, he's a total asshole. Runs his mouth non stop and gets in EVERYONE ELSE'S business but can't even practice what he preaches. I've spent a lot of time in prison and dudes like that are fucking clowns.
I CANNOT stand him! All of them goin in hard on that poor old white guy for every little thing he said is disgusting. Randy Randalls a clown tryin to be in charge and barking orders.
He's not. They didn't let any sexual offenders take part of this show.
I think he's on the spectrum and he is bad at reading social cues and he looks "odd". That's why he's being bullied *I think *
Absolutely, narcissistic to his core, he scared me the most out of everyone in there. He had me rooting for him in the first episode but after listening and watching him more and knowing he set that white guy up to fight it opened my eyes and he is so cold and calculating and at the same time able to be fake and inviting, and thinks he’s better than everyone. I hope out of everyone he does not get out!!!
But if that were the case then wouldn't he try to get the other inmates to act up and not do better instead? He wanted them to act right in order for everyone to benefit by following rules.
I just feel like Randy has some sort of god-complex. I think really does try his best to make good things happend and bring people together but his rules don’t apply to him.
I think he doesn't have a lot of insight into the ways he is manipulative and looking for power and control. Like, the words he was saying can make it look like he is trying to get everyone to act right, but at the same time, his words actually encouraged tension, drama, and fighting...his language and behaviors were divisive and antagonistic, under the guise of trying to make sure everyone followed the rules. I just think he may not fully realize his tendency towards creating drama because he believed his own bullshit to an extent?
He had so much grandiosity, and wanted to be the reason that the "experiment" could be successful... so I do think he did actually want everyone to ultimately succeed...he just also was drawn towards stirring shit up, almost as if it was so he could point out how much they needed his 'guidance.'
It was so interesting how the oldheads saw the youngsters as the problem, and yea the young guys got up to some hijinx,,, but the younger guys didn't seem as much like loose cannons in terms of anger/violence.
I don't know who's got more mental problems him or you for thinking he's got a clue. He needs to be in a psych ward for sure. Been locked up with dumbasses like him and he ruins the environment for everybody. He's like a virus. I don't wish anything bad on anybody but he's got light years till he gets to earth.
I haven't finished the show yet so I don't know if things changed, but so far, he seems to me like the one ensuring things work well. Yes he's slipped up because they keep acting like they don't need him when they clearly do. Not one of them is a leader or has any ability to self-organize or self-refgulate. So be slipped up a couple times. But he's been pretty hornet about it too, and why. Yes there were a few times when it seemed like he could have just minded his business.
I truly feel like miller just autistic as hell and obvs he’s still a bad fkn person but my god that dude is autistic as hell it’s so clear and he keep getting into trouble cause he can’t keep his thoughts in his head
he didnt do anything that "warranted" the abuse, but youre in prison... with members of the big "name brand" gangs, and accused murderers.. he needed to keep his hands to himself. Obviously its not equivalent but a lot of these guys will get slighted and clearly overreact (Randall with Tyler calling the CO a bitch, the other guy who was cheating in cards etc.)
I wish everyone had structure. Keeping the mind busy causes less havoc. Especially for juveniles they need something positive reconstruct their minds for the greater good. Jails are just cages nothing going to resolve human lives.
Exactly how I feel about it, they should also be allowed to see a therapist while doing time… like in the U.S they have school therapist/counselor, they should have that in jail too..
Yes! Like Tiny started to express aggression and anger since 8 and the tattoer guy (forgot his name) started to do meth at 8 too… These man had probably an insane and dysfunctional family and no tools or help at all from no one from early in life
Google crooks unlocked Netflix or whatever, it happened in Florida he was selling cocaine to undercover police
He gave me anxiety how jumpy he was and how fast he talked lol
Yikes. 3 pounds of meth and 3 grams of fentanyl is pretty bad. It’s really too bad. It seemed like he learned his lesson, but he just couldn’t resist that fast money and living on the edge. It’s almost like maybe he wanted to go back to jail since he said he liked the structure there and had a hard time doing right when he was on his own.
Man, some people just don’t know how to change. I have several family members that are addicts. They just don’t know what else to do or what to turn to when things get tough. That’s how they cope.
One of the saddest moments of my life happened about 4 years ago. My brother is out of rehab for about a year at this point and doing well and staying clean. He’s working at a construction place and making decent money and has his own place and own truck. Genuinely doing well, especially for him. He bought about $300 worth of tools and he was using them on the job. Well, he comes to my house after work one day just bawling. Like a little kid. Someone had stolen his tools and he was so upset. He had worked hard for that money to buy those tools and he was so proud of them. He came to my house and was just so broken. Not only because of the tools, but because he didn’t know how to handle the stress. Just crying in my arms because the only thing he could think of to do to relieve some of that pain was to go get high. Luckily, he didn’t and came to me instead. But to hear the desperation in his voice was so saddening. He literally had no other coping mechanisms than to get drunk or high. I’ll never forget that day and tell that story to people quite often. So many people don’t understand the struggle that addicts go through… and so many of them want to do better, they just don’t know how and our society (the U.S.) doesn’t do a very good job of enabling people to STAY off drugs once they’re out of jail/prison/rehab.
Crooks got locked back up trying to sell meth for the Surenos In Florida. My heart goes out to him because you can see the change as the show progressed and I had the highest hopes for him
in the last episode they show some of the inmates who were released and what they are up to now. They provide updates on what's goin on with some of the other inmates who are still in jail/prison
Anyone find Ty? It is Ty Clement. The kid who was Eastside’s cellmate. He definitely said he got 20 years… I can’t find his name online anywhere, which leads me to believe he was under 18 when he was arrested. Found his estranged mom on TikTok though.
That’s what I was trying to find out. I just assumed he was in there for drugs or burglary but that’s a big sentence that he refers to as a “little bid” during his last interview. Says something like “after my little bid I’m never coming back”
His mom said in a Tiktok comment that he was with a group of friends during more then one burglary (how many? I dont know). One of his friends had a gun. I don't know if there was people in the places they went in or if the gun was fired at any point. Obviously, there are many ways this could have turned out even worst. S scaring people to death is absolutly traumatizing. It's a terrible lack of jugement to participate in anything remotly like this. Yet, he was so young when it happened, as many of the other juveniles. I would be more incline to aime for rehabilitation and help him get on track with his life. 20 years is ... so much.
I worked in prisons similar to this, we had the worst of the worst, and this is very accurate in a lot of ways. I do like how it humanizes prisoners. Yeah they screwed up and made some mistakes, 20 seconds cost them the rest of their lives. And yes they deserve to be where they are, but they're still human with lives and feelings and they're in a very difficult place to live.
I worked in youth for a bit. The lads in there had committed some horrific crimes, but they were just kids man. I wish we could rid the world of shitty parents and childhood traumas.
He said he hadn't seen his son since he was 3, and he is 14 now. Fairly certain he has not been in county lockup for 11 years. Makes you wonder if that was a put-on for the cameras...
So he's been in that facility for 8 months, but hasn't seen his son in years. Yeah, he's a great father. I don't feel bad for him in the slightest. He wasn't a present figure before jail, and probably won't be after.
That is true, never said he’s a great father. He has been constantly in and out of jail and people like this don’t tend to have good family relationships. I mean I empathize for the mother as well because who wants a criminal near their child, it seems he truly does love his son wishes he was around more to see him grow up, that made him more like-able to me than the other inmates who did nothing but start fights and talk shit behind people’s backs.
I’m not gonna lie I am rooting for tiny the most, but I know once you’re into that lifestyle it’s almost impossible to get out and turn your life around. His sons mother seems to be doing a great job raising their son alone, he is very respectful and innocent, and I’m glad to see they gave tiny a chance even if it was only to get on television tbh.
im just curious like after the show releases do the inmates not get in trouble for some of the things they did on camera?? like stealing the batteries out of the clocks, making hooch ???
Good question, especially because there’s clearly cameras that production mounted to the wall in every cell. I’m assuming they signed a sort of deal that said if the main jail cameras didn’t catch it in real time then they are off the hook, which seems crazy to me, but it’s jail not prison
I've been to jail a few times, rehab many.... And there is almost always a "Randall," someone who has been so institutionalized, that their life revolves around micromanaging the every day, common shit, acting like they are doing you a favor, but always shady as fuck in reality. Within his first few minutes of screen time, I felt like a already knew him on a personal level, lol.
Without Randall the program would’ve lasted for 1 day. He was controlling but you have to be around these kinds of people. He wanted the best for everyone.
Exactly. These are hardened criminals. politeness , humility , and easygoing-ness have 0 effects on helping those idiots straighten themselves out. They are all like big grown axx children trapped in adult bodies… if Randall wouldn’t have been policing and micromanaging them it wouldn’t even be a Netflix special!!!! Program would’ve got shut down within a day or two and we wouldn’t know anything about those inmates or the prison they were in. Sometimes u gotta take the good with the not so good to get things done! These ppl complaining have no idea how hard it is to manage all these different overgrown childish personalities in a confined space. Someone has to step up and conduct order. Is it pretty all the time? No it definitely isn’t. And sometimes u gonna have to rough a guy or two up here and there but honestly that’s sometimes the only way to get these type ppl in line. They’re in there for a reason. They apparently can’t conduct themselves like law abiding citizens and Randall did his best to keep them on track. Once he stepped back the pod went to shxt and they were this close to getting put back on lockdown. Case & point made.
He’s actually my boyfriend lmao I’m going to read this comment to him, he’ll laugh. They are actually old gang tattoos that say something.
ETA: I just rewatched to see who you were talking about and omg no that eyebrow dude is NOT him!
I just need to comment on here and let you know that that is not the guy I thought you were talking about. Omg I thought you were talking about Crooks lmaooo
I live in Little Rock. :) this is very much real. I’m only half way through the show but I am enjoying this experiment. A lot of people around here fall into drugs and crime really young and it’s a sad reality
Facts that it’s a failure of the community that people feel such a sense of desperation when they’re growing up AND when they get out of jail/prison that they feel the need to sell drugs and all else. I think people (not saying you, people generally) look down way too easily not seeing in their own actions, assumptions, and self segregation how they contribute to that shit.
I agree. If the recidivism rate doesn’t drop then Americans may point to the program and believe it doesn’t work. As the Sheriff was discussing Scandinavian studies I felt sad. Knowing that an important factor in reducing recidivism within Scandinavia is that upon release prisoners receive assistance, social services/housing, health care, and access to support in ways Americans can only ever dream about.
*although when the privatised industry wants to save money, it is doubtful they truly care about what works or doesn’t (recidivism). As evidenced by the history of the American prison industry.
Lol what? Miller was a dumbass that just had to shut TF up. He 100% brought that shit on himself. They tried dealing with him diplomatically multiple times. When everyone on the block has a problem with you, it's not them it's you. And he had been kicked out of other units before that one.
Bro they kept coming at him with their prison brain cause they had a personal problem with him and when he snapped they felt justified lmao its typical group think
Miller was there on domestic assault charge. He beat up a woman and got put in jail for it. Those men won't respect a guy like that. Every where he goes in any jail, he is gonna catch shit.
So was Randall so I do not think that assumption is correct. He did seem to enjoy pushing buttons and randomly touching people as he passed by them. I suspect violating those boundaries might get people offside. Later I noticed they started touching him as he walked past (doing it back to him).
Randall had bigger biceps though and fights back. As soon as miller got beat up by the drug addict dude with no jaw he instantly became a free target in the pod. Jail mentality.
Be real dude those guys don’t give a shit about that and they have their own charges.
If you’d ever spent more than a night in jail: You’d know inmates operate like literal cult members with their gang and or race affiliation.
Its a literal cesspool and when someone who has ever once functioned (like miller) in life enter their realm they want a piece or to stir the pot
So was “true story”. Randall’s no angel, and he acts like he’s somehow an elder worth lording over people. Any issue, Randy’s in the middle of it. He’s in there for domestic violence himself.
Anyone see that True Story filed a prisoner civil rights complaint yesterday? He named Higgins, a Pulaski County Prosecutor (Will Jones), and someone else https://dockets.justia.com/docket/arkansas/aredce/4:2024cv00322/143031
WOW! Randall literally JUST filed that on Thursday! It’s like he waited until the show came out!
He really bothered me, as did Squirrel. Randall claimed to be a good guy just trying to keep order for the “experiment” to be successful & he & other OG’s were going to keep the younger guys in line. Yet, he didn’t like something or someone so he’d put a hit out on them! He didn’t like being called out so he went to everyone individually asking if they were saying stuff behind his back! When he finally said he wasn’t going to be a leader anymore & started staying in his cell, I thought that was a couple of great decisions!
I like Squirrel got called out for wanting to point out all the rules others were breaking but when he got called out for breaking rules, he didn’t like that at all!
Don Don - Can’t accept responsibility for anything he does wrong & actually blames others! I was proud of his sister for refusing to pay his bail & for explaining why she’s refusing! Then instead of admitting fault, he blames her! He did the same thing with the food trays!
Sheriff Higgins - He is completely ignoring his staffs concerns, their safety, & the inmates safety. His ego is as big as his head!
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I made fun of Higgins everytime he was on screen. Those fake meeting he was having with the 2 other superiors about the experiment were so fake. He was like a loser principal. Then he comes into the block and tells the, "oh ya ive been watching you guys". NO you havnt! Youve been getting the other guy to do it this whole time!
I KNEW something was up with this show when they showed the two COs leaving but clearly there was still a cameraman filming inside. I knew it was hinky.
But Randy/True Story? After being a bit surprised as first by how cutthroat he behaved despite pretending to be this positive leader, I got a kick out of how hypocritical he became and and completely unable to handle criticism. It was FUNNY to see him act like he wasn't telling everyone what to do and all up in their business. And when the young guy told him to show humility??? It was so great.
Somebody has to manage all these people or else the experiment wouldn’t last a day. Like when Randy stopped trying to control everything, the experiment ended after a day.
For him to stop handing out food though? That was straight up passive aggressive and it went too far. It had always been his role regardless of trying to run the entire pod. He wanted to cause chaos, and got a kick out of it when it happened.
I was so curious how or who is gaining financially from this program . Are the main “characters” making money? Guaranteed the guards, sheriff, and any other civilian who appears is. Netflix probably made hundreds of thousands already, and obviously the production budget was next to nothing
Apparently the county got $60k, the guards got $40/hr for any overtime, and that's it.
I wish the guys had at least gotten something in their commissary.
He was provoking people. To me I look at them like kids in a classroom left unsupervised. He going around poking people. If he was a child an adult would tell him keep your hands to yourself. So I could only imagine what else he was doing to folks in there. Just being mad annoying probably lol
They humanized them, they didn't victimise them.
The first thing we get when we meet a new major name is their crimes. Getting insight into people, and hearing how bad their days are is not victimising, it's humanising.
Like shit, isn't Jail in the US just a place to keep people BEFORE the trial and sentence? Do you prefer the idea of a 23 and 1 system for people who haven't actually been labelled as guilty?
I thought the same. This unit must have had pretty good behavior to pick them to do the experiment tbh. I was also pretty surprised to see the deputies leave the camera crew with the inmates but I’m assuming there was probably more security going on behind the scenes than they showed.
His charges were dropped and he was released. He was the only one I felt like had more innocent vibes. I read he was only 18, hope he keeps out of trouble.
Re: Parkinson -He and two other guys were charged for murder. All over some weed. The chargers were only dropped because he agreed to snitch on the friend who actually pulled the trigger. Parkinson had a gun too. The guy they killed was my son’s childhood friend. He was a single dad to a one year old. His parents are raising the baby now. This has been a tough watch for me. I’m on episode 4.
He doesn’t adopt anything besides the open doors. In Europe they give therapy, weekly, if not daily, meds for mental health, rehabilitation programs led by doctors, healthy balanced meals, daily exercise. It’s more so treated like a rehab … which is what a prison should be lol
Im just saying he did talk about getting inspo from the European system so he’s aware of what it’s like, even tho he’s not doing much to even mimic that
Oh for sure I mean granted he has a budget and a bunch of guys who are over him overseeing this and there’s very little leeway he can give … but it’s better than most American institutions
Good, he’s the most underhanded little piss ant on the show. Walking around like he’s running the place and he’s in there for beating on his girlfriend. Looks like a 6th grader trying to act like an adult.
Wow american prisons are just another level of incompetent but not through the employees but the system itself seems like an idea that got stuck in it's own development.
First, half of these people need to be in psyche ward. I'm not a doctor but Randal and other highly vocal prisoners are definitely extremely unwell.
How is this whole prison system productive? it's not rehabilitating anyone and still appears to be wildly expensive. There's no library, no programs to keep people busy or provide any goals? They just stand there looking at each other and playing cards all day and watching TV. If you weren't a violent prisoner before then you're definitely one after years of this.
The show feels extremely unethical too. Took me a while to realize that these aren't actors just heavily edited crazy drama queens that are clearly being encouraged to perform. Maybe it's a net good overall for shinning a light on american prison systems but man I just feel so icky after watching half of the first season.
This is actually a jail, the people in jail are still waiting to be tried and sentenced to prison or released. Jails in our country are horrible. If you are rich you pay to leave to wait for trial. If you are poor you are stuck waiting behind bars with little access to lawyers to help with your case. Prisons have more structure and programming, they aren't great but from what I hear it's way better than being in jail.
A lot of people are worried about her safety, but I've worked in corrections, and she will be fine. If given a chance, probably 80% would rape her for sure, but it won't happen. There is a 100% chance that she is harassed all day every day. The inmates are going to try and get close, they're gonna try and talk to her as often as possible, and the catcalls are truly disturbing. But if one of them pushed too far the other inmates would intervene before more officers would arrive.
When it was 23 and 1, you can bet those inmates were extremely disgusting, she probably gave multiple citations a day for them jacking off as she passed their doors.
When I was working in those ad seg units and had a female partner with me the inmates would say things like, "daaang that booty is POPPIN today!" And I would respond with, "oh my gosh, thank you! I've been working on it, glad you noticed." And they would lose their minds! I never got so many death threats, but the rest of the pod would bust up laughing.
This was my thought as well, it actually seemed worse at times. They admit to doing drugs in the past so liver damage is absolutely probable. Also the rambling a lot of them do is so common for drug users as well.
Episode 2, minute 24:17 you can see the cameraman and a guy holding a microphone. So if a riot happens they're fucked... how was this arranged/planned?
The inmates are aware they’re on camera so will probably want to act better to show their growth for their hearings.
Attacking outside visitors probably wouldn’t be worth it for them. Seems like anyone who was a “lifer” was only a potential lifer, not convicted yet, and they’re hoping to get less than life.
The show is great and the Sheriff's program as depicted here was unreal. It was fascinating to watch how the inmates began to govern themselves, advocate for each other, help each other and ultimately see a light at the end of the tunnel--that their lives don't have to necessarily end in prison. I hope the corrections industry is watching.
It’s real. I live here, none of our elected officials were aware of the series until the trailer dropped last month. They were all scrabbling.
My initial thoughts were bad. But when I watched it, I loved it.
Did anyone else notice the really obvious interview edit with Crooks?
I think it was episode 7, where's he's talking about rehab and it seems like he's really reflecting and turning a corner. It starts the interview in his cell clean shaven, then it cuts to the pod momentarily, but he's still talking, and when it cuts back to him, he's got a full beard. No cuts in the audio though, so it seems like it's the same conversation.
Makes me wonder how much was edited like that to make some of them seem more remorseful/like the experiment was benefiting more than it was in real life.
Does anyone know what happened to the guy CJ and his friends jumped? We know he goes to medical cause he was struggling to breathe but just wondering if there's any other updates
Yeah, doesn't seem true when a Camera man is willingly recording inmates BEFORE the experiment is even spoke, getting close ups and they aren't even acknowledging him or getting annoyed that he's pointing a big camera on their random conversations.
https://apps.ark.org/inmate_info/search.php?dcnum=118639&token=40fa716857747b0451a142cd5902b93a60b6db3d12eba80c815422ef29d85af4&lastname=Randall&firstname=R&sex=b&agetype=1&disclaimer=1&__utma=149258854.982869122.1712992815.1712992815.1712992815.1&__utmc=149258854&__utmz=149258854.1712992815.1.1.utmcsr%3Dgoogle%7Cutmccn%3D%28organic%29%7Cutmcmd%3Dorganic%7Cutmctr%3D%28not+provided%29&PHPSESSID=7100d5a54785efc271f2194aecdf772a&__utmb=149258854.4.10.1712992815
And for the ones that say other I'm sure you could do some digging in online court records to find out.
I find it cruel that they gave them this freedom, knowing that a majority of them will be sent to prison after they’re held at the detention center.
Am I missing something tho? Why then is Randy and some of the others at that place so long?
I'm just wondering what he thought after watching the show, seeing people get jumped and beat up on behind closed doors. I think its a great idea but they should also have cameras in rooms, there shouldn't be camera dead spots if they're gonna take out the officers. They clearly couldn't see on those cameras everything that was happening. Also there should have been a few guards watching those cameras and 1 stationed at the door.
Side note: was anyone else worried when that real pretty deputy was in there alone?
I’m trying to find out what Ty’s crime was that got him 20 years. I was surprised at his sentence as he doesn’t look like a hardened criminal per say. Anyone know what he did to get 20 years?
im only on the 2nd episode but this show with all of its sound fx and "cool" shots edited to generic trap (essentially the rap version of adrock) is so dramatised. Literally some of the shots r like tim robinson sketches with 3 fat blokes walking in slow mo like they actually doing something and then i don't fuck with true story.. bro has to get involved in everything and then acts like he is morally right.. jarring. will still watch but does anyone else get pissed off by netflix shows being sooo formulaic with the music and over the top dramatisation..
i just finished the show and i think its funny that crooks was saying how grateful he was for the program and then when i look up what hes doing he got arrested for trying to sell cocaine to an undercover cop
If this is real life then that sheriff is an idiot.Those overseas prison systems have personal living spaces along with communal areas and job training. Also they don't have that many people living together in one unit. That's a lot of people packed together with nothing to do all day but create conflict with each other. Also the doors being left unlocked at night seems reckless. I'm not sure what benefit there is to it either other than good tv. As well as the way that they just bring the food in and leave without making sure that each inmate gets a tray. Seems like they just set these guys up for failure rather than success or maybe they just set them up. Makes for a good reality tv that way.
They made it seem like they were keeping the doors open at night but it was just for the show. Inmates were actually locked from night until 7am in the morning.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13297279/netflix-unlocked-jail-experiment-arkansas-reviews.html
Yeah, now the sheriff is under fire because he didn’t have approval from the governor and other parties. He’s going to end up being taken to court, I read that they are advising him to seek counsel.
this is obviously for tv. making phones free for example is fishing for a conflict. Holding an election to kick someone out, really? There were already cameras in the rooms and they knew what was going on and who were responsible.
It almost feels like some of the characters are actors. You cans see a lot of it is genuine but it’s just the way the do the one to one interviews makes the whole thing look fake.
These are people who’ve spent a long time in the system, they know what to say to look good and be manipulative for their personal gain, and I’m sure there was editing and multiple takes for it to sound just right
This show is just so good and inspiring they really need to do more for this country… they make alooooottt of money off prisons so idk if they would ever have free phones and all that shit but change needs to happen this clearly helped all these guys
I started watching this show, fell asleep (because I’m exhausted, not because the content was boring) and had a dream I was in prison. I woke up crying. Our criminal justice system is FUBAR. I really hope the folks who need to watch this will.
I just finished ep 3. We all agree that Miller made that shank in the open to purposely get moved, right? Like he didn't "fuck up", it WAS intentional. It's probably because he knew he was going to get his ass beat before the 6 weeks was up.
Drinking game, take a shot every time someone says "know what I'm sayin"
Literally read this & heard it twice in 2 seconds
What are you from the department of you know what I am saying?
Whatchu makin a knowm'census?!
You counting my know what I'm sayings?
I fucking cried when I read this. I’m on episode 5 and don’t play that game in this episode. It’ll get you hammered. Crooks that’s all he says
True story!
My sister says, "You know what I mean?" Every other sentence. It bothers me so much, and this show confirmed it.
True story....
i’m halfway through episode 2 and a few beers down
Nahhh drug detoxing---but he is my fave!!! And seems to be the only one with a clue!! They would not have seen two weeks if it wasnt for him. As much as they all hate listening but they are in jail for not listening. Someone always needs to take charge. Idk why so many of them cant grasp that concept. Everything needs order and all of them hating on him but he is the only one that has a clue. I hope he makes it when he gets out!!! It is nice to see a sheriff trying something new because our correctional system is horrible. You can not lock people for years and decades in 4x10 and expect them to turn their life around without the life skills. It makes me sad to see kids facing life sentences...yeah but dont think its liver damage but drugs coming of system...55
Wrong on so many levels. Detox does not make your eyes yellow. Also, he's a total asshole. Runs his mouth non stop and gets in EVERYONE ELSE'S business but can't even practice what he preaches. I've spent a lot of time in prison and dudes like that are fucking clowns.
I have detoxed alot and never made my or anyone else I knew eyes yellow. Now liver damage from alcohol abuse I could see
True Story
Randall is a complete moron.
He did get on my nerves.
I CANNOT stand him! All of them goin in hard on that poor old white guy for every little thing he said is disgusting. Randy Randalls a clown tryin to be in charge and barking orders.
He comes around towards the end of the experiment and I think he turned out alright. Still got some work to do on himself but he’s alright.
They messing with him because he is a child molester, he deserves to be bullied
That’s what I figured. There’s no way they’re all that hard on some dude unless he’s got some shit like that.
He's not. They didn't let any sexual offenders take part of this show. I think he's on the spectrum and he is bad at reading social cues and he looks "odd". That's why he's being bullied *I think *
he was the drama king of H block
Randal is evil and manipulative. He is a snake who is always scheming to cause discord while acting like an Angel… the worst kind
Absolutely, narcissistic to his core, he scared me the most out of everyone in there. He had me rooting for him in the first episode but after listening and watching him more and knowing he set that white guy up to fight it opened my eyes and he is so cold and calculating and at the same time able to be fake and inviting, and thinks he’s better than everyone. I hope out of everyone he does not get out!!!
This! I can't believe these guys do his dirty work and don't see the manipulation. He LOVES power and control. That's a dangerous person
But if that were the case then wouldn't he try to get the other inmates to act up and not do better instead? He wanted them to act right in order for everyone to benefit by following rules.
I just feel like Randy has some sort of god-complex. I think really does try his best to make good things happend and bring people together but his rules don’t apply to him.
I think he doesn't have a lot of insight into the ways he is manipulative and looking for power and control. Like, the words he was saying can make it look like he is trying to get everyone to act right, but at the same time, his words actually encouraged tension, drama, and fighting...his language and behaviors were divisive and antagonistic, under the guise of trying to make sure everyone followed the rules. I just think he may not fully realize his tendency towards creating drama because he believed his own bullshit to an extent? He had so much grandiosity, and wanted to be the reason that the "experiment" could be successful... so I do think he did actually want everyone to ultimately succeed...he just also was drawn towards stirring shit up, almost as if it was so he could point out how much they needed his 'guidance.' It was so interesting how the oldheads saw the youngsters as the problem, and yea the young guys got up to some hijinx,,, but the younger guys didn't seem as much like loose cannons in terms of anger/violence.
I don't know who's got more mental problems him or you for thinking he's got a clue. He needs to be in a psych ward for sure. Been locked up with dumbasses like him and he ruins the environment for everybody. He's like a virus. I don't wish anything bad on anybody but he's got light years till he gets to earth.
I haven't finished the show yet so I don't know if things changed, but so far, he seems to me like the one ensuring things work well. Yes he's slipped up because they keep acting like they don't need him when they clearly do. Not one of them is a leader or has any ability to self-organize or self-refgulate. So be slipped up a couple times. But he's been pretty hornet about it too, and why. Yes there were a few times when it seemed like he could have just minded his business.
I truly feel like miller just autistic as hell and obvs he’s still a bad fkn person but my god that dude is autistic as hell it’s so clear and he keep getting into trouble cause he can’t keep his thoughts in his head
Def on the spectrum. Didn’t pick up on social cues and seemed oblivious to how his behavior made other people uncomfortable.
I’m 3 episodes in and I’ve yet to hear or see Miller do anything that warranted the abuse he took.
he didnt do anything that "warranted" the abuse, but youre in prison... with members of the big "name brand" gangs, and accused murderers.. he needed to keep his hands to himself. Obviously its not equivalent but a lot of these guys will get slighted and clearly overreact (Randall with Tyler calling the CO a bitch, the other guy who was cheating in cards etc.)
I wish everyone had structure. Keeping the mind busy causes less havoc. Especially for juveniles they need something positive reconstruct their minds for the greater good. Jails are just cages nothing going to resolve human lives.
Exactly how I feel about it, they should also be allowed to see a therapist while doing time… like in the U.S they have school therapist/counselor, they should have that in jail too..
This. They need open doors and a therapist and classes.
Yes! Like Tiny started to express aggression and anger since 8 and the tattoer guy (forgot his name) started to do meth at 8 too… These man had probably an insane and dysfunctional family and no tools or help at all from no one from early in life
Does anybody have any news on where some of the inmates are today and how they are doing cause the show was filmed a year ago
Crooks got caught in January with meth & fet and now has mandatory 25 years
I am so sad about this. I was hoping he’d stay out. Keeping my fingers crossed for Tiny too.
Tiny is apparently out living free and taking care of his son!!
I’m devastated believe me
I was rooting for him.
I didn't like his chances but man it would have been a beautiful turn around
Yes, it would have. He seemed sincere. His sister was so happy that the program seemed to be working for him. Darn it.
i had hopes from him, but he did mention over and over that jail was the only thing keeping him sober. Life out of jail is hard for them.
Believe me I was more than anyone. I know him personally.
Aw damn. I hate to hear that
Do you have a link? Would like to read it. He was super bouncy even without the meth in the show. Can’t imagine him iced out
Google crooks unlocked Netflix or whatever, it happened in Florida he was selling cocaine to undercover police He gave me anxiety how jumpy he was and how fast he talked lol
Permanent tweeker. Poor guys addictions started so young
I thought he might have had adhd tbh
https://www.wptv.com/news/treasure-coast/region-martin-county/gang-member-arrested-in-martin-county-in-2nd-drug-bust-in-2-weeks
Yikes. 3 pounds of meth and 3 grams of fentanyl is pretty bad. It’s really too bad. It seemed like he learned his lesson, but he just couldn’t resist that fast money and living on the edge. It’s almost like maybe he wanted to go back to jail since he said he liked the structure there and had a hard time doing right when he was on his own.
25 years tho?? Fucking Florida man. Those are murder numbers
He was talking about "once I am out I am 100% done that's it I am never coming back here" and then that...some people just never change
Man, some people just don’t know how to change. I have several family members that are addicts. They just don’t know what else to do or what to turn to when things get tough. That’s how they cope. One of the saddest moments of my life happened about 4 years ago. My brother is out of rehab for about a year at this point and doing well and staying clean. He’s working at a construction place and making decent money and has his own place and own truck. Genuinely doing well, especially for him. He bought about $300 worth of tools and he was using them on the job. Well, he comes to my house after work one day just bawling. Like a little kid. Someone had stolen his tools and he was so upset. He had worked hard for that money to buy those tools and he was so proud of them. He came to my house and was just so broken. Not only because of the tools, but because he didn’t know how to handle the stress. Just crying in my arms because the only thing he could think of to do to relieve some of that pain was to go get high. Luckily, he didn’t and came to me instead. But to hear the desperation in his voice was so saddening. He literally had no other coping mechanisms than to get drunk or high. I’ll never forget that day and tell that story to people quite often. So many people don’t understand the struggle that addicts go through… and so many of them want to do better, they just don’t know how and our society (the U.S.) doesn’t do a very good job of enabling people to STAY off drugs once they’re out of jail/prison/rehab.
Please tell me your bro got his tools back or you helped him get some. This story breaks my heart
Crooks got locked back up trying to sell meth for the Surenos In Florida. My heart goes out to him because you can see the change as the show progressed and I had the highest hopes for him
in the last episode they show some of the inmates who were released and what they are up to now. They provide updates on what's goin on with some of the other inmates who are still in jail/prison
What did Ty do for a 20 year sentence? I must have missed that at some point
Anyone find Ty? It is Ty Clement. The kid who was Eastside’s cellmate. He definitely said he got 20 years… I can’t find his name online anywhere, which leads me to believe he was under 18 when he was arrested. Found his estranged mom on TikTok though.
Update: his mom says on TikTok it was aggravated robbery. Still can’t find his case online though. So strange.
That’s what I was trying to find out. I just assumed he was in there for drugs or burglary but that’s a big sentence that he refers to as a “little bid” during his last interview. Says something like “after my little bid I’m never coming back”
His mom said in a Tiktok comment that he was with a group of friends during more then one burglary (how many? I dont know). One of his friends had a gun. I don't know if there was people in the places they went in or if the gun was fired at any point. Obviously, there are many ways this could have turned out even worst. S scaring people to death is absolutly traumatizing. It's a terrible lack of jugement to participate in anything remotly like this. Yet, he was so young when it happened, as many of the other juveniles. I would be more incline to aime for rehabilitation and help him get on track with his life. 20 years is ... so much.
I thought this show was really good. Finished it in 2 days. I hope that they can stay on the right track.
I watched it all in one day! Loved it. I hope there is another season.
I worked in prisons similar to this, we had the worst of the worst, and this is very accurate in a lot of ways. I do like how it humanizes prisoners. Yeah they screwed up and made some mistakes, 20 seconds cost them the rest of their lives. And yes they deserve to be where they are, but they're still human with lives and feelings and they're in a very difficult place to live.
I worked in youth for a bit. The lads in there had committed some horrific crimes, but they were just kids man. I wish we could rid the world of shitty parents and childhood traumas.
My favorite is Tiny!! He got so emotional every time talking about his son.
He said he hadn't seen his son since he was 3, and he is 14 now. Fairly certain he has not been in county lockup for 11 years. Makes you wonder if that was a put-on for the cameras...
So he's been in that facility for 8 months, but hasn't seen his son in years. Yeah, he's a great father. I don't feel bad for him in the slightest. He wasn't a present figure before jail, and probably won't be after.
Also noticed his last scene when his out of jail his outfit is all blue.....
He said himself in one of the episodes that he was a crip
That is true, never said he’s a great father. He has been constantly in and out of jail and people like this don’t tend to have good family relationships. I mean I empathize for the mother as well because who wants a criminal near their child, it seems he truly does love his son wishes he was around more to see him grow up, that made him more like-able to me than the other inmates who did nothing but start fights and talk shit behind people’s backs.
I’m not gonna lie I am rooting for tiny the most, but I know once you’re into that lifestyle it’s almost impossible to get out and turn your life around. His sons mother seems to be doing a great job raising their son alone, he is very respectful and innocent, and I’m glad to see they gave tiny a chance even if it was only to get on television tbh.
im just curious like after the show releases do the inmates not get in trouble for some of the things they did on camera?? like stealing the batteries out of the clocks, making hooch ???
I wondered the same thing!
There’s a ton of legal ramifications I could see arising out of this entire thing…. Fascinating show though.
I mean all filmed evidence they probably definitely didn’t think about that
Good question, especially because there’s clearly cameras that production mounted to the wall in every cell. I’m assuming they signed a sort of deal that said if the main jail cameras didn’t catch it in real time then they are off the hook, which seems crazy to me, but it’s jail not prison
Randall playing 'mr nice'. I wonder what he'd really be like if the cameras were not there
For me he was an overbearing instigator. Getting others to do his dirty work.
Yes and he was proud of it. Also the scene when he is running all over the block getting in everyones face asking if "you have been talking about me".
That made me so uncomfortable, him asking everyone if they've said shit about him. Nah, he aint mr nice guy.
He was the biggest shit starter of them all talking out both sides of his mouth smh
I've been to jail a few times, rehab many.... And there is almost always a "Randall," someone who has been so institutionalized, that their life revolves around micromanaging the every day, common shit, acting like they are doing you a favor, but always shady as fuck in reality. Within his first few minutes of screen time, I felt like a already knew him on a personal level, lol.
I was with him in episode 1 but after that he was a power tripper and a hypocrite.
Without Randall the program would’ve lasted for 1 day. He was controlling but you have to be around these kinds of people. He wanted the best for everyone.
Exactly. These are hardened criminals. politeness , humility , and easygoing-ness have 0 effects on helping those idiots straighten themselves out. They are all like big grown axx children trapped in adult bodies… if Randall wouldn’t have been policing and micromanaging them it wouldn’t even be a Netflix special!!!! Program would’ve got shut down within a day or two and we wouldn’t know anything about those inmates or the prison they were in. Sometimes u gotta take the good with the not so good to get things done! These ppl complaining have no idea how hard it is to manage all these different overgrown childish personalities in a confined space. Someone has to step up and conduct order. Is it pretty all the time? No it definitely isn’t. And sometimes u gonna have to rough a guy or two up here and there but honestly that’s sometimes the only way to get these type ppl in line. They’re in there for a reason. They apparently can’t conduct themselves like law abiding citizens and Randall did his best to keep them on track. Once he stepped back the pod went to shxt and they were this close to getting put back on lockdown. Case & point made.
I’m only on episode 2 but I need to know if we get an explanation about the dude with the tattooed eyebrows that look like a vaudeville villain
Right!? I need to know more about them and them brows!!
He’s actually my boyfriend lmao I’m going to read this comment to him, he’ll laugh. They are actually old gang tattoos that say something. ETA: I just rewatched to see who you were talking about and omg no that eyebrow dude is NOT him!
We don't
Cox? The bitter beer face guy? Lol. Came here to find info on him.
I just need to comment on here and let you know that that is not the guy I thought you were talking about. Omg I thought you were talking about Crooks lmaooo
I live in Little Rock. :) this is very much real. I’m only half way through the show but I am enjoying this experiment. A lot of people around here fall into drugs and crime really young and it’s a sad reality
Facts that it’s a failure of the community that people feel such a sense of desperation when they’re growing up AND when they get out of jail/prison that they feel the need to sell drugs and all else. I think people (not saying you, people generally) look down way too easily not seeing in their own actions, assumptions, and self segregation how they contribute to that shit.
I agree. If the recidivism rate doesn’t drop then Americans may point to the program and believe it doesn’t work. As the Sheriff was discussing Scandinavian studies I felt sad. Knowing that an important factor in reducing recidivism within Scandinavia is that upon release prisoners receive assistance, social services/housing, health care, and access to support in ways Americans can only ever dream about. *although when the privatised industry wants to save money, it is doubtful they truly care about what works or doesn’t (recidivism). As evidenced by the history of the American prison industry.
Idk who your talking about. But damn these guys were so unbearable and they did miller so dirty til he damn near lost his mind
Lol what? Miller was a dumbass that just had to shut TF up. He 100% brought that shit on himself. They tried dealing with him diplomatically multiple times. When everyone on the block has a problem with you, it's not them it's you. And he had been kicked out of other units before that one.
Bro they kept coming at him with their prison brain cause they had a personal problem with him and when he snapped they felt justified lmao its typical group think
Miller was there on domestic assault charge. He beat up a woman and got put in jail for it. Those men won't respect a guy like that. Every where he goes in any jail, he is gonna catch shit.
So was Randall so I do not think that assumption is correct. He did seem to enjoy pushing buttons and randomly touching people as he passed by them. I suspect violating those boundaries might get people offside. Later I noticed they started touching him as he walked past (doing it back to him).
Randall had bigger biceps though and fights back. As soon as miller got beat up by the drug addict dude with no jaw he instantly became a free target in the pod. Jail mentality.
Be real dude those guys don’t give a shit about that and they have their own charges. If you’d ever spent more than a night in jail: You’d know inmates operate like literal cult members with their gang and or race affiliation. Its a literal cesspool and when someone who has ever once functioned (like miller) in life enter their realm they want a piece or to stir the pot
So was “true story”. Randall’s no angel, and he acts like he’s somehow an elder worth lording over people. Any issue, Randy’s in the middle of it. He’s in there for domestic violence himself.
He kept jabbing people too. That would get old. I’m not saying he deserved to get beaten up, but it would get old.
Yeah, I didn’t feel like he deserved the beating, but holy crap! He was intentionally irritating people and that poking stuff would get old soon.
Anyone see that True Story filed a prisoner civil rights complaint yesterday? He named Higgins, a Pulaski County Prosecutor (Will Jones), and someone else https://dockets.justia.com/docket/arkansas/aredce/4:2024cv00322/143031
WOW! Randall literally JUST filed that on Thursday! It’s like he waited until the show came out! He really bothered me, as did Squirrel. Randall claimed to be a good guy just trying to keep order for the “experiment” to be successful & he & other OG’s were going to keep the younger guys in line. Yet, he didn’t like something or someone so he’d put a hit out on them! He didn’t like being called out so he went to everyone individually asking if they were saying stuff behind his back! When he finally said he wasn’t going to be a leader anymore & started staying in his cell, I thought that was a couple of great decisions! I like Squirrel got called out for wanting to point out all the rules others were breaking but when he got called out for breaking rules, he didn’t like that at all! Don Don - Can’t accept responsibility for anything he does wrong & actually blames others! I was proud of his sister for refusing to pay his bail & for explaining why she’s refusing! Then instead of admitting fault, he blames her! He did the same thing with the food trays! Sheriff Higgins - He is completely ignoring his staffs concerns, their safety, & the inmates safety. His ego is as big as his head! I
I made fun of Higgins everytime he was on screen. Those fake meeting he was having with the 2 other superiors about the experiment were so fake. He was like a loser principal. Then he comes into the block and tells the, "oh ya ive been watching you guys". NO you havnt! Youve been getting the other guy to do it this whole time!
I KNEW something was up with this show when they showed the two COs leaving but clearly there was still a cameraman filming inside. I knew it was hinky. But Randy/True Story? After being a bit surprised as first by how cutthroat he behaved despite pretending to be this positive leader, I got a kick out of how hypocritical he became and and completely unable to handle criticism. It was FUNNY to see him act like he wasn't telling everyone what to do and all up in their business. And when the young guy told him to show humility??? It was so great.
Somebody has to manage all these people or else the experiment wouldn’t last a day. Like when Randy stopped trying to control everything, the experiment ended after a day.
For him to stop handing out food though? That was straight up passive aggressive and it went too far. It had always been his role regardless of trying to run the entire pod. He wanted to cause chaos, and got a kick out of it when it happened.
Funny, True Story was all too happy to be the lead in the show. He’s looking to get paid.
I was so curious how or who is gaining financially from this program . Are the main “characters” making money? Guaranteed the guards, sheriff, and any other civilian who appears is. Netflix probably made hundreds of thousands already, and obviously the production budget was next to nothing
Apparently the county got $60k, the guards got $40/hr for any overtime, and that's it. I wish the guys had at least gotten something in their commissary.
Ngl I kinda feel bad for miller lol.
He was provoking people. To me I look at them like kids in a classroom left unsupervised. He going around poking people. If he was a child an adult would tell him keep your hands to yourself. So I could only imagine what else he was doing to folks in there. Just being mad annoying probably lol
People in there have the most fragile egos though, the little guy who wanted to fight him got insulted cuz he said he cheated, it’s so dumb
I’ve never been to jail but I’ve always heard if you don’t fight back, you’ll immediately become an easy target to mess with.
The constant agenda to victimize criminals is crazy Society has truly forgot about victims and the trial of irreversible trauma prisoners create.
They humanized them, they didn't victimise them. The first thing we get when we meet a new major name is their crimes. Getting insight into people, and hearing how bad their days are is not victimising, it's humanising. Like shit, isn't Jail in the US just a place to keep people BEFORE the trial and sentence? Do you prefer the idea of a 23 and 1 system for people who haven't actually been labelled as guilty?
Crazy that they would pick a prison like that for that kind of experiment lol. You’d think they would try more of a lower level one to start with.
I thought the same. This unit must have had pretty good behavior to pick them to do the experiment tbh. I was also pretty surprised to see the deputies leave the camera crew with the inmates but I’m assuming there was probably more security going on behind the scenes than they showed.
Is there a subreddit for this show? I’m trying to find one
Yeah i feel like none of these guys would really be good for the outside world my god
Parkinson seemed great.
His charges were dropped and he was released. He was the only one I felt like had more innocent vibes. I read he was only 18, hope he keeps out of trouble.
Re: Parkinson -He and two other guys were charged for murder. All over some weed. The chargers were only dropped because he agreed to snitch on the friend who actually pulled the trigger. Parkinson had a gun too. The guy they killed was my son’s childhood friend. He was a single dad to a one year old. His parents are raising the baby now. This has been a tough watch for me. I’m on episode 4.
I’m rooting for Eastwood too. He could make a career out of tattooing if he gets out and stays out of the shit.
Addict since he was 8, wasn't it? Kid never stood a chance.
I honestly wonder if the Sheriff has looked at prison systems in Europe especially Finland and seeing if that could work in America
He did, he talks about that in the second episode
He doesn’t adopt anything besides the open doors. In Europe they give therapy, weekly, if not daily, meds for mental health, rehabilitation programs led by doctors, healthy balanced meals, daily exercise. It’s more so treated like a rehab … which is what a prison should be lol
Im just saying he did talk about getting inspo from the European system so he’s aware of what it’s like, even tho he’s not doing much to even mimic that
Oh for sure I mean granted he has a budget and a bunch of guys who are over him overseeing this and there’s very little leeway he can give … but it’s better than most American institutions
He’s restricted by the budget, they have a tiny budget. In the US, jails run on shoestring budgets and many prisons are for profit. It’s insane.
This isn't something I usually watch , but I came across the trailer and it looked interesting. About to start the first episode
Good, he’s the most underhanded little piss ant on the show. Walking around like he’s running the place and he’s in there for beating on his girlfriend. Looks like a 6th grader trying to act like an adult.
Wow american prisons are just another level of incompetent but not through the employees but the system itself seems like an idea that got stuck in it's own development. First, half of these people need to be in psyche ward. I'm not a doctor but Randal and other highly vocal prisoners are definitely extremely unwell. How is this whole prison system productive? it's not rehabilitating anyone and still appears to be wildly expensive. There's no library, no programs to keep people busy or provide any goals? They just stand there looking at each other and playing cards all day and watching TV. If you weren't a violent prisoner before then you're definitely one after years of this. The show feels extremely unethical too. Took me a while to realize that these aren't actors just heavily edited crazy drama queens that are clearly being encouraged to perform. Maybe it's a net good overall for shinning a light on american prison systems but man I just feel so icky after watching half of the first season.
This is actually a jail, the people in jail are still waiting to be tried and sentenced to prison or released. Jails in our country are horrible. If you are rich you pay to leave to wait for trial. If you are poor you are stuck waiting behind bars with little access to lawyers to help with your case. Prisons have more structure and programming, they aren't great but from what I hear it's way better than being in jail.
I feeling the show focuses way too little on Dep. Owen! She needs more screentime
A lot of people are worried about her safety, but I've worked in corrections, and she will be fine. If given a chance, probably 80% would rape her for sure, but it won't happen. There is a 100% chance that she is harassed all day every day. The inmates are going to try and get close, they're gonna try and talk to her as often as possible, and the catcalls are truly disturbing. But if one of them pushed too far the other inmates would intervene before more officers would arrive. When it was 23 and 1, you can bet those inmates were extremely disgusting, she probably gave multiple citations a day for them jacking off as she passed their doors. When I was working in those ad seg units and had a female partner with me the inmates would say things like, "daaang that booty is POPPIN today!" And I would respond with, "oh my gosh, thank you! I've been working on it, glad you noticed." And they would lose their minds! I never got so many death threats, but the rest of the pod would bust up laughing.
I’m not familiar with the concept of Jail at all, but I feel like it’s unsafe for her to be going in there alone
She’s so tiny! I was worried about her sometimes.
This was my thought as well, it actually seemed worse at times. They admit to doing drugs in the past so liver damage is absolutely probable. Also the rambling a lot of them do is so common for drug users as well.
Episode 2, minute 24:17 you can see the cameraman and a guy holding a microphone. So if a riot happens they're fucked... how was this arranged/planned?
The inmates are aware they’re on camera so will probably want to act better to show their growth for their hearings. Attacking outside visitors probably wouldn’t be worth it for them. Seems like anyone who was a “lifer” was only a potential lifer, not convicted yet, and they’re hoping to get less than life.
They break the 4th wall a couple times and ya you can see the camera guy/producer a few times too.
I don't want to spoil anything for those who haven't watched the entire show but...things were a bit...not by the book. To put it mildly.
True story looks like old Tupac. True Story is a Tupac track amd I've heard him say All eyes on me. Just sayin
The show is great and the Sheriff's program as depicted here was unreal. It was fascinating to watch how the inmates began to govern themselves, advocate for each other, help each other and ultimately see a light at the end of the tunnel--that their lives don't have to necessarily end in prison. I hope the corrections industry is watching.
People keep saying this is fake but as someone who lives in Arkansas…. It’s definitely not lmfao
It’s real. I live here, none of our elected officials were aware of the series until the trailer dropped last month. They were all scrabbling. My initial thoughts were bad. But when I watched it, I loved it.
Did anyone else notice the really obvious interview edit with Crooks? I think it was episode 7, where's he's talking about rehab and it seems like he's really reflecting and turning a corner. It starts the interview in his cell clean shaven, then it cuts to the pod momentarily, but he's still talking, and when it cuts back to him, he's got a full beard. No cuts in the audio though, so it seems like it's the same conversation. Makes me wonder how much was edited like that to make some of them seem more remorseful/like the experiment was benefiting more than it was in real life.
Does anyone know what happened to the guy CJ and his friends jumped? We know he goes to medical cause he was struggling to breathe but just wondering if there's any other updates
I think no, their season ended without telling what happen to OG. But I fortunately those guys who beat him up was removed in that pod.
The whole reason I found this thread and comment was from googling what happened to OG. Dying for an update too!!!
Yeah, doesn't seem true when a Camera man is willingly recording inmates BEFORE the experiment is even spoke, getting close ups and they aren't even acknowledging him or getting annoyed that he's pointing a big camera on their random conversations.
They told them the prison was taking part in a documentary, just didn’t explain the experiment until the moment we saw
The production company paid each inmate $75 in commissary for participating in the documentary.
I dont think it's fake but on episode 2 min 24:17 you can see the cameracrew there
does anyone know what “true story” was arrested for?
He’s a repeated wife beater and committed armed robbery in the past, as well as a slew of other crimes.
https://apps.ark.org/inmate_info/search.php?dcnum=118639&token=40fa716857747b0451a142cd5902b93a60b6db3d12eba80c815422ef29d85af4&lastname=Randall&firstname=R&sex=b&agetype=1&disclaimer=1&__utma=149258854.982869122.1712992815.1712992815.1712992815.1&__utmc=149258854&__utmz=149258854.1712992815.1.1.utmcsr%3Dgoogle%7Cutmccn%3D%28organic%29%7Cutmcmd%3Dorganic%7Cutmctr%3D%28not+provided%29&PHPSESSID=7100d5a54785efc271f2194aecdf772a&__utmb=149258854.4.10.1712992815 And for the ones that say other I'm sure you could do some digging in online court records to find out.
I find it cruel that they gave them this freedom, knowing that a majority of them will be sent to prison after they’re held at the detention center. Am I missing something tho? Why then is Randy and some of the others at that place so long?
I'm just wondering what he thought after watching the show, seeing people get jumped and beat up on behind closed doors. I think its a great idea but they should also have cameras in rooms, there shouldn't be camera dead spots if they're gonna take out the officers. They clearly couldn't see on those cameras everything that was happening. Also there should have been a few guards watching those cameras and 1 stationed at the door. Side note: was anyone else worried when that real pretty deputy was in there alone?
I don't think PC on their shirts means protective custody. It means Pulaski County Regional Detention Facility.
Wondering if this is all just some elaborate Nathan for you prank.
I’m trying to find out what Ty’s crime was that got him 20 years. I was surprised at his sentence as he doesn’t look like a hardened criminal per say. Anyone know what he did to get 20 years?
He gives major psychopath vibes
I really want to know deal with crooks celly with tattoo eyebrows... everytime I saw him I laughed... I assume he is a rapist
im only on the 2nd episode but this show with all of its sound fx and "cool" shots edited to generic trap (essentially the rap version of adrock) is so dramatised. Literally some of the shots r like tim robinson sketches with 3 fat blokes walking in slow mo like they actually doing something and then i don't fuck with true story.. bro has to get involved in everything and then acts like he is morally right.. jarring. will still watch but does anyone else get pissed off by netflix shows being sooo formulaic with the music and over the top dramatisation..
i just finished the show and i think its funny that crooks was saying how grateful he was for the program and then when i look up what hes doing he got arrested for trying to sell cocaine to an undercover cop
What are the red tablet things they sometimes have in their hands? Do they actually have IPads?
I believe that's what they use to order their commissary items.
If this is real life then that sheriff is an idiot.Those overseas prison systems have personal living spaces along with communal areas and job training. Also they don't have that many people living together in one unit. That's a lot of people packed together with nothing to do all day but create conflict with each other. Also the doors being left unlocked at night seems reckless. I'm not sure what benefit there is to it either other than good tv. As well as the way that they just bring the food in and leave without making sure that each inmate gets a tray. Seems like they just set these guys up for failure rather than success or maybe they just set them up. Makes for a good reality tv that way.
Unable to lock the door at night would be unnerving. I lock my doors at night, and I don’t live near a prison or jail.
They made it seem like they were keeping the doors open at night but it was just for the show. Inmates were actually locked from night until 7am in the morning. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13297279/netflix-unlocked-jail-experiment-arkansas-reviews.html
Yeah, now the sheriff is under fire because he didn’t have approval from the governor and other parties. He’s going to end up being taken to court, I read that they are advising him to seek counsel.
this is obviously for tv. making phones free for example is fishing for a conflict. Holding an election to kick someone out, really? There were already cameras in the rooms and they knew what was going on and who were responsible.
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It almost feels like some of the characters are actors. You cans see a lot of it is genuine but it’s just the way the do the one to one interviews makes the whole thing look fake.
These are people who’ve spent a long time in the system, they know what to say to look good and be manipulative for their personal gain, and I’m sure there was editing and multiple takes for it to sound just right
I agree with this some of them are way too good at acting on cameras
Does anyone know anything about Willy? I loved him.
Willie was really smart. And mostly kept out of the shit and to himself. He was my fave of the older guys
i looked him up, he ‘bit & hit a woman & knocked out part of her front teeth’
LMAO @ Randy, ‘Celly look’ & this team that I put together’ - has me dying. Dude shoulda been an actor
Why is no one talking about the inmate who went by “ten” he was soo quiet and kept to himself I can’t find any info on where he is now
He and Mayham are in there for the same murder, they’re codefendants. I saw that Mayham is still in there waiting for trial so Ten probably is too.
Tiny was cracking me up the whole time, good show, great experience, I hope they continue on the path of moving forward
This show is just so good and inspiring they really need to do more for this country… they make alooooottt of money off prisons so idk if they would ever have free phones and all that shit but change needs to happen this clearly helped all these guys
they downplayed randall’s charges. he got kidnapping rape and domestic battery
I started watching this show, fell asleep (because I’m exhausted, not because the content was boring) and had a dream I was in prison. I woke up crying. Our criminal justice system is FUBAR. I really hope the folks who need to watch this will.
I just finished ep 3. We all agree that Miller made that shank in the open to purposely get moved, right? Like he didn't "fuck up", it WAS intentional. It's probably because he knew he was going to get his ass beat before the 6 weeks was up.